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RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 12:13 PM
to avoid voting, what would the media and the major newspapers have to say about it? Either at the state or national level...What would Beary-O say or do?

MR2-Sooner86
2/24/2011, 12:22 PM
They'd probably show their bias like always and condemn it. Much like Tea Party members had signs of Hitler and it was "bad" but union members? That's perfectly fine and they're justified.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Aldebaran
2/24/2011, 12:26 PM
They'd probably get caught soliciting same sex copulations in the airport bathrooms on the way out of town.

golfingsooner
2/24/2011, 12:27 PM
I'm sure they would find some parallels with Hitler and somesuch.

Ike
2/24/2011, 12:28 PM
Used to be (up until about 1890) that they didn't have to leave for their to be an absence of quorum. If enough people simply did not vote, then it could be declared that there was no quorum, and thus, no offical vote.

Sooner98
2/24/2011, 12:30 PM
They would be called "racists" by Aldebaran, for some bewildering reason.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 12:38 PM
I don't think they'd choose walking out over filibustering.
They'd probably show their bias like always and condemn it. Much like Tea Party members had signs of Hitler and it was "bad" but union members? That's perfectly fine and they're justified.

They're the bizarro Tea Party. ~Jon Stewart

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RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 12:53 PM
IMO the Republicans simply wouldn't consider doing it. They would know how chicken-sh*t it is, and how childish it looks. Also, they know the media would tear them to pieces, and condemn them for preventing the will of the people from being implemented.

Jammin'
2/24/2011, 01:02 PM
IMO the Republicans simply wouldn't consider doing it. They would know how chicken-sh*t it is, and how childish it looks. Also, they know the media would tear them to pieces, and condemn them for preventing the will of the people from being implemented.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/14/usa.georgebush

Aldebaran
2/24/2011, 01:05 PM
But.... they'd never really do it. Because they are manly men.

TitoMorelli
2/24/2011, 01:18 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/14/usa.georgebush

Not the same at all. Haven't you seen the crybaby dems pull this same stunt numerous times, while cameras and mikes are waiting on the Capitol steps, so that they can trumpet their indignation before CNN and MSNBC and all the major networks? Yet in those cases the senators and reps returned to their elected posts the following day. That's not the same as flee-bagging out of the state and hiding in hotels.

But then only manly men would understand the difference.

OhU1
2/24/2011, 01:36 PM
If it was the Okla. legislature they would hide in a library where no one would expect to find them.

soonercruiser
2/24/2011, 01:40 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words...

http://members.cox.net/franklipsinic/Political/Dems%20run%20away.jpg

CrimsonCream
2/24/2011, 01:45 PM
I'm sure they would find some parallels with Hitler and somesuch.

Isn't that the truth.

GKeeper316
2/24/2011, 02:31 PM
IMO the Republicans simply wouldn't consider doing it. They would know how chicken-sh*t it is, and how childish it looks. Also, they know the media would tear them to pieces, and condemn them for preventing the will of the people from being implemented.

its actually a very old political tactic in america at all levels.

republicans have done as well as democrats.

your insistence that pubs are somehow better politicians than dems is really naive.

KABOOKIE
2/24/2011, 02:39 PM
its actually a very old political tactic in america at all levels.

republicans have done as well as democrats.

your insistence that pubs are somehow better politicians than dems is really naive.

I've seen this posted a couple of times but no one can seem to point to a specific event in the last 100 years.....

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 02:56 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 03:00 PM
its actually a very old political tactic in america at all levels.

republicans have done as well as democrats.

your insistence that pubs are somehow better politicians than dems is really naive.No, I'm insisting only that the democrat party is hopeless, and most all the MSM is just as bad. Also saying that MOST Republicans have better sense, judgment and morals than almost all Democrat politicians.

Jammin'
2/24/2011, 03:01 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

Show off.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 03:02 PM
GOOGLING IS HARD!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 03:02 PM
I've seen this posted a couple of times but no one can seem to point to a specific event in the last 100 years.....They don't have to prove ANYTHING! THEY'RE DEMOCRATS, BY GOD, er, ah, BY GOLLY.

Jammin'
2/24/2011, 03:05 PM
I've seen this posted a couple of times but no one can seem to point to a specific event in the last 100 years.....


http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm


They don't have to prove ANYTHING! THEY'RE DEMOCRATS, BY GOD, er, ah, BY GOLLY.


Hmmm....

KABOOKIE
2/24/2011, 03:15 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

From those links....


And in 1994, Republican members of the California Assembly refused to show up for floor sessions in an effort to prevent Democrats from electing Willie Brown as speaker with less than a majority vote.

A speaker election!!! What an essential key vote! :rolleyes:


Less than an hour after the walkout, Republicans returned to the floor.

WOW a whole hour!!! :rolleyes:



Angry Republicans boycotted the vote and staged a walkout.

The vote was 223-32 to hold White House chief of staff Josh Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers in contempt.

The vote still took place. :rolleyes:



Nice try.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 03:19 PM
The vote still took place. :rolleyes:
Nice dishonest, maniplative try. BIG SURPRISE!!!FIFY

Jammin'
2/24/2011, 03:19 PM
From those links....



A speaker election!!! What an essential key vote! :rolleyes:



WOW a whole hour!!! :rolleyes:




The vote still took place. :rolleyes:



Nice try.

I see, so now you've changed your tune from "the Republicans would NEVER walk out" to "Republicans only walk out on stupid things or briefly"?

Terrific spin, your hours spent with Fox News is paying off.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/24/2011, 03:22 PM
I see, so now you've changed your tune from "the Republicans would NEVER walk out" to "Republicans only walk out on stupid things or briefly"?

Terrific spin, your hours spent with Fox News is paying off.See post 18. That's really the point of this thread...and, you know it. But, you're arguing for immoral equivalence is laughable, if it wasn't so sad for you, and our beloved country.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 03:22 PM
Nice try.That was a result of 5 mins on the googler. I'd say it was exactly what you were wanting:


I've seen this posted a couple of times but no one can seem to point to a specific event in the last 100 years.....

KABOOKIE
2/24/2011, 03:29 PM
That was a result of 5 mins on the googler. I'd say it was exactly what you were wanting:

I'd say you're exactly wrong. The examples you provided were of either insignificant house procedural votes or the votes took place shortly thereafter. If you can find something where the (R)'s stepped out purposely on a piece of real legislation and it was effectivey blocked, then I might give a ****. Keep it after 1900 please.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 03:30 PM
No seriously, I need you to validate my work.

Position Limit
2/24/2011, 03:37 PM
3rdgen for the win.

sappstuf
2/24/2011, 03:51 PM
IMO the Republicans simply wouldn't consider doing it. They would know how chicken-sh*t it is, and how childish it looks. Also, they know the media would tear them to pieces, and condemn them for preventing the will of the people from being implemented.

Since this poster did not respond to any specific post, I can only conclude he is talking about the OP and the title to this thread, which is:


If Republican legislators walked out and hid

And so when he says "it", I can only assume that he means walking out and hiding.

3rdgen's response was this:


http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

While you can certainly make a case that Repubs have walked out on votes before, I see nothing in those links that says the Repubs also hid. Therefore, their actions do not qualify as "it" and 3rdgen's response does not address the point.

However, it depends on what the meaning of the word 'it' is...

TitoMorelli
2/24/2011, 03:59 PM
Since this poster did not respond to any specific post, I can only conclude he is talking about the OP and the title to this thread, which is:



And so when he says "it", I can only assume that he means walking out and hiding.

3rdgen's response was this:



While you can certainly make a case that Repubs have walked out on votes before, I see nothing in those links that says the Repubs also hid. Therefore, their actions do not qualify as "it" and 3rdgen's response does not address the point.

However, it depends on what the meaning of the word 'it' is...

Looks like if you go back to 1994, Republicans may have been guilty of similar tactics, or at least of failing to show up for a vote (apparently not slinking out of state, though). The next most recent comparable example is (gasp!) 1891, according to the cnn link.


GOOGLING IS HARD!

And evidently it's even harder to understand the gist of what you've googled.

3rdgen's shot rattles around and falls out.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 04:01 PM
No, my response was to Kabookie who was responding to GKeeper.But whatever, you guys can claim victory. I googled out of my own curiosity--not out of a desire to somehow win at the internets.

2121Sooner
2/24/2011, 04:02 PM
Oogling 3G makes me hard

TitoMorelli
2/24/2011, 04:08 PM
Well, my response was really to Position Limit who was commenting on 3G's second post who inferred that Sappstuff and Kabookie were wrong because of Jammin's second response to Limbaugh's third post on this thread, or was it his fourth post on the earlier thread?

PDXsooner
2/24/2011, 04:10 PM
Fox News would tell us that's what "real Americans" do in that situation.

Aldebaran
2/24/2011, 04:10 PM
I win at the internets every time Turd Furgeson calls me a "db" in my spek.


Every.

Single.

Time.

3rdgensooner
2/24/2011, 04:13 PM
Oogling 3G makes me hardOnly when I have a step ladder handy so you can actually see me.

AlboSooner
2/24/2011, 04:39 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

boooooooo

2121Sooner
2/24/2011, 05:02 PM
Only when I have a step ladder handy so you can actually see me.



Please dont sell yourself short 3G. I can look right into your eyes as you look up at me.......

soonercoop1
2/24/2011, 06:55 PM
Most conservatives aren't cowards like the liberal/progressive who must lie about his actual agenda in order to enact it...

Aldebaran
2/24/2011, 07:35 PM
Conservatives are the most straight forward honest folks evar.

KABOOKIE
2/24/2011, 08:25 PM
As pure as Vermont snow.

tcrb
2/24/2011, 08:46 PM
Didn't read the thread, but in response to the op.....Republicans are not cowardly pussies, and therefore, would not run to another state and hide out.

SoCaliSooner
2/24/2011, 08:57 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

I believe that in those cases, the walk out didn't prevent bills from being passed and was more for show.

OUthunder
2/24/2011, 09:49 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm

That's some weak sauce right there even for a liberal patsy like you.

JohnnyMack
2/24/2011, 10:16 PM
Conservatives are the bastion of freedom, justice, liberty and equality. Conservatives aren't born, they spring forth from the forehead of Superman. Liberals are evil, vindictive, maniacal demons spawned from toxic sewer sludge.

OUthunder
2/24/2011, 10:27 PM
Conservatives are the bastion of freedom, justice, liberty and equality. Conservatives aren't born, they spring forth from the forehead of Superman. Liberals are evil, vindictive, maniacal demons spawned from toxic sewer sludge.

yer best post ever but that's not sayin much.

soonercruiser
2/24/2011, 10:45 PM
I'd say you're exactly wrong. The examples you provided were of either insignificant house procedural votes or the votes took place shortly thereafter. If you can find something where the (R)'s stepped out purposely on a piece of real legislation and it was effectivey blocked, then I might give a ****. Keep it after 1900 please.

Got to admit that 3rdgen did prove wrong the assertion that "Repubicans never walk out".

But, it is also valid to point out that after rather short periods of time, they returned and vote were held on the issues. That does make the circumstances different.
Lesson Learned: Never use the term "never".

http://members.cox.net/franklipsinic/Political/Democrat%20vacation.jpg

Radar's Left Hand
2/24/2011, 10:50 PM
That was a result of 5 mins on the googler. I'd say it was exactly what you were wanting:

Next time try the site called www.google.com because "googler" didn't pay off very well.

soonercruiser
2/24/2011, 10:53 PM
Conservatives are the bastion of freedom, justice, liberty and equality. Conservatives aren't born, they spring forth from the forehead of Superman. Liberals are evil, vindictive, maniacal demons spawned from toxic sewer sludge.

Great Post JM!
(sure glad this forum doesn't have a sarcasm emoticon)

ouwasp
2/24/2011, 10:58 PM
The media would be portraying the wayward Republicans as shirking, pouty WASPs that are out of touch with the electorate. Oh yeah, racist homphobes too.

AlboSooner
2/25/2011, 12:41 AM
The term "media" is vague and a blanket statement for all forms of media, from the internet to 24 hr cable news outlets. In any media format, the Republicans have a strong and effectual presence. Nobody dominates political radio talk shows like Rush Limbaugh (http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2010/03/03/rush-limbaugh-tops-talk-radio-rankings-as-usual-glenn-beck-moves-up/)and the myriads of Republican-friendly hosts, and Fox News is crushing people in ratings (http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/fox-news-wins-2010-cable-news-ratings-war-23505). The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post are giants of the print media. There are a myriad of powerful pro-Republican blogs.

I really don't understand this habit of thinking of the media as a singular and homogeneous entity. There are Democrat-friendly media and Republican-friendly media. If ratings are an indicator, Republican-friendly media are stronger and more influential.

ouwasp
2/25/2011, 01:12 AM
Albo, you're probably right. When I said "media", I was thinking of ABC/NBC/CBS, Time Magazine, and the like. I can just picture the late Peter Jennings smirking at a Republican walk-out.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 01:23 AM
Albo, you're probably right. When I said "media", I was thinking of ABC/NBC/CBS, Time Magazine, and the like. I can just picture the late Peter Jennings smirking at a Republican walk-out.Cable stations CNN, PMSNBC, and ALMOST every newspaper in the USA, should all be mentioned. IOW, ouwasp, I think we all realize the disengenuousness of Albo's comment.

AlboSooner
2/25/2011, 01:42 AM
Albo, you're probably right. When I said "media", I was thinking of ABC/NBC/CBS, Time Magazine, and the like. I can just picture the late Peter Jennings smirking at a Republican walk-out.

The majority of people I know don't turn to ABC, NBC, CBS for news, but for entertainment. I don't even remember the last time I watched CBS or ABC news.

The media having an agenda is nothing new, or uncommon. Not you, but some don't like the facts that Rush Limbaugh dominates radio talk shows, Fox News is number one in all cable networks, WSJ and Washington Post are doing quite well.

There is a balance of media for both sides.The Republican-friendly side is stronger and more influential, as they have more viewers/readers/listeners.

Personally, I don't lean either way (I think I don't at least), and watch/listen/read all of them, expect MSNBC (I find them boring). :)

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 08:40 AM
IMO the Republicans simply wouldn't consider doing it. They would know how chicken-sh*t it is, and how childish it looks. Also, they know the media would tear them to pieces, and condemn them for preventing the will of the people from being implemented.

Yes, Republicans never do anything chickent-sh!ttish, 'cept maybe let the gub'ment stop running for awhile just so they can prove how bad-asZ they are. Only today's Republican's could take a sensible idea like responsible, limited government and make it seem mean, vindictive, and reckless. And that's even BEFORE the "evil left-wing media" get ahold of it.

pphilfran
2/25/2011, 08:50 AM
Yes, Republicans never do anything chickent-sh!ttish, 'cept maybe let the gub'ment stop running for awhile just so they can prove how bad-asZ they are. Only today's Republican's could take a sensible idea like responsible, limited government and make it seem mean, vindictive, and reckless. And that's even BEFORE the "evil left-wing media" get ahold of it.

Both sides are fools...

They take a week off and then think they can get a deal done in a few days...

If my business was about to be shut down I damn sure wouldn't send all my execs out on personal business...

Everyone of them should have been in their seats ready to work from 7 am till 7 pm 7 days a week until the job was complete and all involved could buy into the solution...

How many elections will it take having incumbents booted to get our leadership to understand that we want action and not a bunch of political rhetoric...two? three? ten?

The Profit
2/25/2011, 09:04 AM
Both sides are fools...

They take a week off and then think they can get a deal done in a few days...

If my business was about to be shut down I damn sure wouldn't send all my execs out on personal business...

Everyone of them should have been in their seats ready to work from 7 am till 7 pm 7 days a week until the job was complete and all involved could buy into the solution...

How many elections will it take having incumbents booted to get our leadership to understand that we want action and not a bunch of political rhetoric...two? three? ten?




Agreed, Phil.

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 09:22 AM
Both sides are fools...

How many elections will it take having incumbents booted to get our leadership to understand that we want action and not a bunch of political rhetoric...two? three? ten?

When the Dem's get elected, they see it as a mandate for a "nanny-state" governmental intrusion.

When the 'Pubs get elected, they see it as mandate for dismantling the federal government (except the military, of course).


What neither seem to see is that most people are squarely in the middle; they want a government that works with reasonable efficiency and that is affordable and that doesn't try to do too much, at home or abroad. The reason one party gets elected is largely because the people get fed up with the hubris and overreaching of the other one. The Elephants are about to overreach and blow their latest "mandate," just like the Donkeys overreached theirs from '08.

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 09:33 AM
OH yeah, I've been waiting for this:

If Republican legislators walked out and hid we'd all live happily ever after (or something like that). :rolleyes: You Dem people are slow! :D

3rdgensooner
2/25/2011, 09:38 AM
That's some weak sauce right there even for a liberal patsy like you.Haha, what a huge conclusion mat you are jumping on.

Position Limit
2/25/2011, 09:58 AM
who exactly are these "conservatives" and "republicans" that you guys keep throwing out there? why dont you guys just spare your fear and loathing of of this evil media machine and just rewatch red dawn for the 10,000th time?

C&CDean
2/25/2011, 10:10 AM
Is that the flick with Ahnold and John Belushi's brother?

Ike
2/25/2011, 10:15 AM
OH yeah, I've been waiting for this:

If Republican legislators walked out and hid we'd all live happily ever after (or something like that). :rolleyes: You Dem people are slow! :D

But that's like stating "The sky is blue". Too obvious to be worth mentioning. :D

Position Limit
2/25/2011, 10:16 AM
Is that the flick with Ahnold and John Belushi's brother?

no that's red heat. red dawn is the neo con's mein kampf. it's a movie full of 80's commie propaganda and clearly defined enemies. kind of like today the imaginary enemy of a "what if" liberal media scenerio happens with a predetermined outcome decided on by a group of simpletons in the midst of a neo con circle jerk.

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 10:20 AM
The term "media" is vague and a blanket statement for all forms of media, from the internet to 24 hr cable news outlets. In any media format, the Republicans have a strong and effectual presence. Nobody dominates political radio talk shows like Rush Limbaugh (http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2010/03/03/rush-limbaugh-tops-talk-radio-rankings-as-usual-glenn-beck-moves-up/)and the myriads of Republican-friendly hosts, and Fox News is crushing people in ratings (http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/fox-news-wins-2010-cable-news-ratings-war-23505). The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post are giants of the print media. There are a myriad of powerful pro-Republican blogs.

I really don't understand this habit of thinking of the media as a singular and homogeneous entity. There are Democrat-friendly media and Republican-friendly media. If ratings are an indicator, Republican-friendly media are stronger and more influential.

How dare you destroy such a conveniently nasty mythical beast like "The Liberal Media." The myth may have had some truth when Rush was getting strated, but no more. Nowadays, the worse threat comes from people, like Rush's Parrot, who listen to nothing but right-wing rhetoric from Fox News, Rush, etc. And refuse from the git-go to afford any trace of legitimacy to any other news sources.

JohnnyMack
2/25/2011, 10:28 AM
How many elections will it take having incumbents booted to get our leadership to understand that we want action and not a bunch of political rhetoric...two? three? ten?

In my opinion it will never change. Their has been partisan bickering in this country since before the Constitutional Convention and it's not like it's ever going to change. Just like God needs the Devil, this nation needs two-party politics.

Aldebaran
2/25/2011, 10:29 AM
Conservatives know why the caged bird sings.

Position Limit
2/25/2011, 10:32 AM
tusoooner,
dont you know that all of the problems this country currently faces are the fault of this liberal media we keep hearing about? that and unions, mexicans and college professors.

OUthunder
2/25/2011, 12:13 PM
Haha, what a huge conclusion mat you are jumping on.

Conclusion trampoline, not a mat. :D

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 12:18 PM
tusoooner,
dont you know that all of the problems this country currently faces are the fault of this liberal media we keep hearing about? that and unions, mexicans and college professors.Democrats and RINOS are responsible for America's economic collapse. Nanny-statism sucks, don't it?

badger
2/25/2011, 12:20 PM
I really think some people are convinced that there is a bias in the media when it doesn't conform to their own political ideologies. Fox News is only right wing hackery if you're a liberal. The rest of the liberal media elitists at MSNBC, CNN, etrc. are liberal media elitists if you're conservative.

Thus, if Republicans did this, I'm sure that it would be reported and people would call them out based on whether they agree with their actions or not, just like Dems are now.

I know Wisconsin state Senate Dems think they have no other options at this point except leaving state, but while they're hoteling it up in Chicago, as I said in the other thread, teachers received preliminary layoff notices this week.

If this situation doesn't get resolved by the AWOL senators, those layoff notices are going to be made official, not just preliminary. Districts like Milwaukee are reportedly looking at 50-student classrooms per teacher.

Vote for it or don't, something has to be done to save these teacher jobs. Complain about benefits later, save the jobs now. :(

Position Limit
2/25/2011, 12:22 PM
Democrats and RINOS are responsible for America's economic collapse. Nanny-statism sucks, don't it?

with a simpleton comment like this, i'm convinced you would'nt know what a conservative is if william buckley dipped his nutz in your mouth.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 12:25 PM
with a simpleton comment like this, i'm convinced you would'nt know what a conservative is if william buckley dipped his nutz in your mouth.You got CLASS, baby!

badger
2/25/2011, 12:28 PM
Democrats and RINOS are responsible for America's economic collapse. Nanny-statism sucks, don't it?

Everyone's responsible for the fate and consequences of this country, not just the rich, the poor, the elected, the voting, the non-voting, the Republicans, the Democrats, the RINOS, the DINOS, the illegals, the naturalized, the tax cheats, etc. etc.

Rather than blaming, work toward solving. Don't find who is to blame, see what you personally should be doing to help. :)

PDXsooner
2/25/2011, 12:31 PM
Democrats and RINOS are responsible for America's economic collapse. Nanny-statism sucks, don't it?

Did someone fart?

Jammin'
2/25/2011, 12:42 PM
This whole stinking thread is badgers fault.

badger
2/25/2011, 12:45 PM
This whole stinking thread is badgers fault.

:O guilty.

:confused: ...wait, REALLY?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 12:48 PM
Everyone's responsible for the fate and consequences of this country, not just the rich, the poor, the elected, the voting, the non-voting, the Republicans, the Democrats, the RINOS, the DINOS, the illegals, the naturalized, the tax cheats, etc. etc.

Rather than blaming, work toward solving. Don't find who is to blame, see what you personally should be doing to help. :)Pointing out the counter-productivity of socialism and authoritarian rule is worth doing. Asking them to stop their nonsense is worth doing. Voting won't take place til next year, so that's on hold for now. What are you doing?(we're open for ideas) Remember, money is always an issue.

Jammin'
2/25/2011, 12:49 PM
:O guilty.

:confused: ...wait, REALLY?

I assume you are working on a solution?

badger
2/25/2011, 01:32 PM
Hehe, ok then. A solution!

Swear to never be a part of the problem.

Live within your means. Don't be the reason why store return policies now require receipts and only give you store credit. Pay off your credit card bills in full every month. Carry insurance for your vehicle year-round, not just when you need to renew your tag. Pay your fair share of taxes. Next time you want to get a book, buy it from a local store instead of finding it online, which won't give your area sales tax or employ local people. Support kiddo fundraisers, even though you know that popcorn didn't cost the scouts ten bucks. Get informed and vote in as many elections as you possibly can. When it snows, don't just shovel your driveway, but get the sidewalk in front of your house, too. Volunteer. Don't show disdain for minimum wagers and public employees - they have a tough job and aren't usually shown very much appreciation for it. Don't write bad checks. Adopt a pet instead of ordering one from a pet breeder. Don't do jobs that pay you in cash just to avoid the income tax. Donate old clothes and appliances to Salvation Army or Goodwill instead of trying to Craigslist and eBay everything.

:) y'know, stuff like that

StoopTroup
2/25/2011, 01:38 PM
If I was a Republican waiting on the Dems to come back....I'd go skiing.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 02:08 PM
Hehe, ok then. A solution!

Swear to never be a part of the problem.

Live within your means. Don't be the reason why store return policies now require receipts and only give you store credit. Pay off your credit card bills in full every month. Carry insurance for your vehicle year-round, not just when you need to renew your tag. Pay your fair share of taxes. Next time you want to get a book, buy it from a local store instead of finding it online, which won't give your area sales tax or employ local people. Support kiddo fundraisers, even though you know that popcorn didn't cost the scouts ten bucks. Get informed and vote in as many elections as you possibly can. When it snows, don't just shovel your driveway, but get the sidewalk in front of your house, too. Volunteer. Don't show disdain for minimum wagers and public employees - they have a tough job and aren't usually shown very much appreciation for it. Don't write bad checks. Adopt a pet instead of ordering one from a pet breeder. Don't do jobs that pay you in cash just to avoid the income tax. Donate old clothes and appliances to Salvation Army or Goodwill instead of trying to Craigslist and eBay everything.

:) y'know, stuff like thatWhat will you be calling your new TV advice show? When will it premiere?

badger
2/25/2011, 02:14 PM
What will you be calling your new TV advice show? When will it premiere?

:D it's friday, cut me a break that i can't be as perfect a republican as you.

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 02:16 PM
Hehe, ok then. A solution!

Swear to never be a part of the problem.

Live within your means. Don't be the reason why store return policies now require receipts and only give you store credit. Pay off your credit card bills in full every month. Carry insurance for your vehicle year-round, not just when you need to renew your tag. Pay your fair share of taxes. Next time you want to get a book, buy it from a local store instead of finding it online, which won't give your area sales tax or employ local people. Support kiddo fundraisers, even though you know that popcorn didn't cost the scouts ten bucks. Get informed and vote in as many elections as you possibly can. When it snows, don't just shovel your driveway, but get the sidewalk in front of your house, too. Volunteer. Don't show disdain for minimum wagers and public employees - they have a tough job and aren't usually shown very much appreciation for it. Don't write bad checks. Adopt a pet instead of ordering one from a pet breeder. Don't do jobs that pay you in cash just to avoid the income tax. Donate old clothes and appliances to Salvation Army or Goodwill instead of trying to Craigslist and eBay everything.

:) y'know, stuff like that

Ew, baj... That smells kinda socialistic and "global villagey." I think the "Official S.O. True Conservative" approach includes more things like (1) avoiding anything (like paying taxes) that would support the evil gub'ment, (2) home-schooling your kids to keep them safe from socialist indoctrination, (3) dealing only in cash and keeping it out of the banks by converting it into gold, (4) wasting energy whenever possible (just to ensure that nobody mistakes you for some kind of climate change enthusiast or environmentalist wacko), (5) ending support for charities (they only enable poverty, you know), and (6) arming yourself to the teeth, so you can be ready shoot intrusive federal agents from the DEA, FBI, ATF, or DEQ, as well as undocumented Guatemalan hotel maids. I'm sure there's more, but you see how off-track you are?

badger
2/25/2011, 02:25 PM
OK fine TU, we can eliminate all of that stuff, but be nice to the poor return desk clerk at the department store.

Back between college semesters I can't count the number of times people complained about the store's return policy, a policy I neither created nor had the power to change, but since I was the only one around, I had to listen.

Just... be nice to minimum wagers, OK? You are wasting your breath if you are chewing out a minimum wager. The policy sucks because people have cheated it in the past. Someone ruined it for you, and griping to me isn't gonna change anything. Want a manager? Sure, just wait over here for 15 minutes. They're at lunch, so it might actually be closer to an hour :D

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 02:36 PM
:D it's friday, cut me a break that i can't be as perfect a republican as you.OK, what should an Imperfect Republican call her advice show?

badger
2/25/2011, 02:40 PM
OK, what should an Imperfect Republican call her advice show?

"Imperfect Republican" actually has a nice ring to it :D

:) Hi, I'm badger, and I'm not old, I'm not rich and I'm not a guy, but I do like personal accountability lower taxes and minimized governmental crap.

:mad: Now let's talk about those stupid people that abuse minimum wagers at department stores.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 02:47 PM
:mad: Now let's talk about those stupid people that abuse minimum wagers at department stores.They are paid the big bucks to be Dart Boards. It's an easy job. You just say, "yeah, huh? and, "fill out this form, and someone will contact you soon."

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/25/2011, 03:10 PM
Ew, baj... That smells kinda socialistic and "global villagey." I think the "Official S.O. True Conservative" approach includes more things like: home-schooling your kids to give them less exposure to socialist indoctrination.
Arming yourself to the teeth, so you can be ready shoot intrusive federal agents from the DEA, FBI, ATF, or DEQ, who want are coming to take your means of self defense, as well as undocumented criminals. I'm sure there's more, but you see how off-track you are?You got a couple of suggestions almost right.

TUSooner
2/25/2011, 03:49 PM
OK fine TU, we can eliminate all of that stuff, but be nice to the poor return desk clerk at the department store.

Back between college semesters I can't count the number of times people complained about the store's return policy, a policy I neither created nor had the power to change, but since I was the only one around, I had to listen.

Just... be nice to minimum wagers, OK? You are wasting your breath if you are chewing out a minimum wager. The policy sucks because people have cheated it in the past. Someone ruined it for you, and griping to me isn't gonna change anything. Want a manager? Sure, just wait over here for 15 minutes. They're at lunch, so it might actually be closer to an hour :D

I had a confrintation with a minumum wager at lunch, a bar-tender/waitress actually, and a rather skanky one. Somebody gave me a $20 gift certificate for the place. So I had a burger and 2 beers worth < $17. First, she says I can't use the cert because "it's Mardi Gras." What? "Mardi Gras weekend," when the cert says it is not good, is next weekend. Anyway, I told her I had called in earlier and was told I could use the cert, so she said, "You're lucky! <sneer> You aren't supposed to get to use it, but since somebody said you could, you can." <sneer sneer>. Then she said I owed her $1.65. I said "why?" She said. "I'll get the manager." <rolleyes & sneer> So I said, that's not necesssary, just tell me how this food and beer costs more than $20? She was baffled, she couldn't explain and wouldn't try. Well, I looked at the fine print on the cert and saw that did not cover tax & tip, so I told her I had it all figured out, and it was OK, so could I pay and leave? She graciously consented (after another sneer and a half), though it seemed to tax her in the extreme to make such a weighty decision. So I left her a nice tip and - best of all - refrained from telling she was a stupid skank who only had the job because of her delicious-looking plump round breasts. So did I do OK?

JohnnyMack
2/25/2011, 04:13 PM
because of her delicious-looking plump round breasts. So did I do OK?

I didn't catch anything other than this.

WTF were you rambling about?

StoopTroup
2/25/2011, 04:17 PM
I had a confrintation with a minumum wager at lunch, a bar-tender/waitress actually, and a rather skanky one. Somebody gave me a $20 gift certificate for the place. So I had a burger and 2 beers worth < $17. First, she says I can't use the cert because "it's Mardi Gras." What? "Mardi Gras weekend," when the cert says it is not good, is next weekend. Anyway, I told her I had called in earlier and was told I could use the cert, so she said, "You're lucky! <sneer> You aren't supposed to get to use it, but since somebody said you could, you can." <sneer sneer>. Then she said I owed her $1.65. I said "why?" She said. "I'll get the manager." <rolleyes & sneer> So I said, that's not necesssary, just tell me how this food and beer costs more than $20? She was baffled, she couldn't explain and wouldn't try. Well, I looked at the fine print on the cert and saw that did not cover tax & tip, so I told her I had it all figured out, and it was OK, so could I pay and leave? She graciously consented (after another sneer and a half), though it seemed to tax her in the extreme to make such a weighty decision. So I left her a nice tip and - best of all - refrained from telling she was a stupid skank who only had the job because of her delicious-looking plump round breasts. So did I do OK?

You should have told her while staring at her chest that this was the best Hooters youd been to in awhile except that all the others have waitresses too.

MamaMia
2/25/2011, 04:41 PM
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-18/politics/awol.legislators_1_majority-vote-florida-senate-quorum?_s=PM:POLITICS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101531.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-14-3134892708_x.htm
GOOGLING IS HARD!

It doesn't make sense to compare the information in your links to what the democrats are doing right now.

The first link is about Lincoln jumping out of a building way back when.

In the second link its says "Less than an hour after the walkout, Republicans returned to the floor"

In the 3rd link it says that they simply walked out of the building.

The democrats have been packing suitcases and traveling completely out of the state refusing to return.

3rdgensooner
2/25/2011, 04:43 PM
Threads are for reading.

MamaMia
2/25/2011, 04:44 PM
Threads are for reading.yeah and so are titles of threads. In your links, nobody hid.

3rdgensooner
2/25/2011, 04:47 PM
Yeah, and I was replying to Kabookie who was replying to GKeeper.

deja vu

SoCaliSooner
2/25/2011, 04:53 PM
Yeah, and I was replying to Kabookie who was replying to GKeeper.

deja vu
You're kinda hot when you're pissy....I like that

Turd_Ferguson
2/25/2011, 04:53 PM
yeah and so are titles of threads. In your links, nobody hid.pWnt!

Radar's Left Hand
2/25/2011, 04:59 PM
Threads are for reading.



So are links.


:D

3rdgensooner
2/25/2011, 05:04 PM
GAH! The goal of keeping me out of political threads has been achieved.

And I thank each and everyone of you--operant conditioning really works.

MamaMia
2/25/2011, 05:06 PM
Yeah, and I was replying to Kabookie who was replying to GKeeper.

deja vu

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/OUmom/quote.gif its for replying.

MamaMia
2/25/2011, 05:08 PM
Not saying that it hasn't happened, but I cant find a link showing that Republicans left the state.

Jammin'
2/25/2011, 05:19 PM
Not saying that it hasn't happened, but I cant find a link showing that Republicans left the state.

I don't think it has happened. Only dirtbags like 3g and other liberal democrats would do something so callous and unprofessional.

I say we nuke Chicago and be done with a lot of the issues at hand.

Turd_Ferguson
2/25/2011, 05:27 PM
I don't think it has happened. Only dirtbags like 3g and other liberal democrats would do something so callous and unprofessional.

I say we nuke Chicago and be done with a lot of the issues at hand.Why nuke it? The tide is turning.

Jammin'
2/25/2011, 05:29 PM
Why nuke it? The tide is turning.

Because we have nukes, why else?

I Am Right
2/25/2011, 07:31 PM
Given the circumstances, perhaps a compromise can be worked out. Let’s allow the teachers to retain their collective bargaining rights intact — as long as Wisconsin taxpayers have the ability to opt out of the education monopoly entirely through fully-funded school vouchers. If the public schools deliver a quality education under the current union-run paradigm, with tenure protecting poor performers, then the teachers will have nothing to fear. If parents believe that they can get a better education for less money at private schools where the customers control the process and the prices, then taxpayers will have the ability to vote with their feet.

Turd_Ferguson
2/25/2011, 07:38 PM
Given the circumstances, perhaps a compromise can be worked out. Let’s allow the teachers to retain their collective bargaining rights intact — as long as Wisconsin taxpayers have the ability to opt out of the education monopoly entirely through fully-funded school vouchers. If the public schools deliver a quality education under the current union-run paradigm, with tenure protecting poor performers, then the teachers will have nothing to fear. If parents believe that they can get a better education for less money at private schools where the customers control the process and the prices, then taxpayers will have the ability to vote with their feet.As usual...day late, dollar short.

soonercruiser
2/25/2011, 07:51 PM
Ew, baj... That smells kinda socialistic and "global villagey." I think the "Official S.O. True Conservative" approach includes more things like (1) avoiding anything (like paying taxes) that would support the evil gub'ment, (2) home-schooling your kids to keep them safe from socialist indoctrination, (3) dealing only in cash and keeping it out of the banks by converting it into gold, (4) wasting energy whenever possible (just to ensure that nobody mistakes you for some kind of climate change enthusiast or environmentalist wacko), (5) ending support for charities (they only enable poverty, you know), and (6) arming yourself to the teeth, so you can be ready shoot intrusive federal agents from the DEA, FBI, ATF, or DEQ, as well as undocumented Guatemalan hotel maids. I'm sure there's more, but you see how off-track you are?

Of course most of this trash post is liberal regressive talking points that can be obtained at numerous web sites, staring with the HUffington Compost and the KOS.
To one point - conservatives and Christians are by far the leading contributors to charities - not discounting evil corporations.

soonercruiser
2/25/2011, 07:53 PM
I had a confrintation with a minumum wager at lunch, a bar-tender/waitress actually, and a rather skanky one. Somebody gave me a $20 gift certificate for the place. So I had a burger and 2 beers worth < $17. First, she says I can't use the cert because "it's Mardi Gras." What? "Mardi Gras weekend," when the cert says it is not good, is next weekend. Anyway, I told her I had called in earlier and was told I could use the cert, so she said, "You're lucky! <sneer> You aren't supposed to get to use it, but since somebody said you could, you can." <sneer sneer>. Then she said I owed her $1.65. I said "why?" She said. "I'll get the manager." <rolleyes & sneer> So I said, that's not necesssary, just tell me how this food and beer costs more than $20? She was baffled, she couldn't explain and wouldn't try. Well, I looked at the fine print on the cert and saw that did not cover tax & tip, so I told her I had it all figured out, and it was OK, so could I pay and leave? She graciously consented (after another sneer and a half), though it seemed to tax her in the extreme to make such a weighty decision. So I left her a nice tip and - best of all - refrained from telling she was a stupid skank who only had the job because of her delicious-looking plump round breasts. So did I do OK?

NO! You peeked!
:rolleyes:

I Am Right
2/25/2011, 09:48 PM
As usual...day late, dollar short.

At least I didn't leave

TUSooner
2/28/2011, 09:48 AM
Of course most of this trash post is liberal regressive talking points that can be obtained at numerous web sites, staring with the HUffington Compost and the KOS.
To one point - conservatives and Christians are by far the leading contributors to charities - not discounting evil corporations.

Pfft. Trash post? Oh dear! Well, given your history, perhaps I shoud defer to your experience in trash posting. But I don't. And I thought up that tiny bit of satire all by myself! I may be wrong about some stuff, but compared to the regurgitators of the Rush-Beck-Fox canon, I'm original! You R-B-F regurgitators are the very last souls who are entitled to accuse anyone of borrowing the talking points of others. Hokey smokes, Bullwinkle, that is hypocrisy in a great way.

Speaking of canned talking points, what about your last last assertion about charity? I may accept it for the sake of argument, but I've only heard it repeated (and repeated) by the R-B-F regurgitators; I have never seen it actually SHOWN. I frankly doubt if it applies to the SO's bunker conservatives. (NOTE: Buying your overpaid preacher a new house and car doesn't count as charity.) Also, believe it or not, not all Christians are conservatives! :eek: Those Christians give, too, y'know.

PS - I don't read Huffington, and I don't even know what KOS means. As I said, I may be ignorant, but I'm darn original compared to most of the squawkers in these parts.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/28/2011, 10:26 AM
PS - I don't read Huffington, and I don't even know what KOS means. As I said, I may be ignorant, but I'm darn original compared to most of the squawkers in these parts.neither conservative political ideas nor liberal/progressive/collectivist ideas are original, TU. Gosh, for a guy with an advanced degree, you orta know that.