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adoniijahsooner
2/19/2011, 01:50 PM
I have always heard that the reason we are so successful is due to the Texas players.

Jacie
2/19/2011, 02:08 PM
Everytime Oklahoma won a National Championship, the Sooners beat sa*et and as the whorns are fond of reminding everybody, they get almost all of their players from the state of Texas so . . .

. . . I guess you could say Texas players did their part to help OU win those NC's.

yankee
2/19/2011, 02:52 PM
OU wins with Texas and Oklahoma players. Both states have contributed plenty to our success.

Soonerfan88
2/19/2011, 04:20 PM
The biggest reason for that statistic is the large number of players who could be signed under Bud & Barry - much greater than the 85/25 of today. Under Blake, many of those he was able to sign came because they loved OU, not because of the product on the field, so there were a large number of Okies around when Stoops arrived. However, without key out of state players, Josh Heupel, Torrance Marshall, Derrick Strait, etc., OU would not have won in 2000. It takes a good mix of players who care about the team to win a championship and it doesn't matter where they are from.

I'm not trying to belittle players from Oklahoma or imply they aren't as good as Texas players. However, I think Stoops' idea of getting the best player no matter where they are from is correct. Yes, OU has had great players from Oklahoma but they have also had a few Okies quit on them.

BoomerSoonerGoOU
2/19/2011, 04:30 PM
Our 2000 team consisted of a majority of Oklahomans. Eat sh*t, TX fans. You can view the rosters by year.

http://soonerstats.com/football/players/roster.cfm

silverwheels
2/19/2011, 04:35 PM
Yep, the 2000 roster was roughly 60% Oklahomans.

Always_Sooner
2/19/2011, 07:19 PM
Let's face it with recruiting numbers with scholarship signee's, and the population difference between Oklahoma and Texas you have to be able to recruit the state of Texas it's a pipeline.

CobraKai
2/19/2011, 09:30 PM
We've also never won a championship without a head coach who's name starts with a B. Ever. Therefore, when bob resigns we must hire someone with a B name.

Leroy Lizard
2/19/2011, 09:36 PM
Just like UT has never won a title without a coach who has had a Sooner connection.

sperry
2/19/2011, 09:59 PM
We have an excellent chance to win a title next season with our only starters from Oklahoma being Broyles, Ikard, and Ronnell. Where the players come from makes no difference. Guys with offers to Oklahoma could likely play for just about any school in the country, and they picked Oklahoma. It's not like they're stuck here becase no one else wanted them.

OUEngr1990
2/19/2011, 10:33 PM
2000 team had 60% Okies, and 20% texans. (and 20% other)

lexsooner
2/19/2011, 10:45 PM
I just saw a number of other boards for schools which have never won a single national championship with players from any state.

lexsooner
2/19/2011, 10:47 PM
We have an excellent chance to win a title next season with our only starters from Oklahoma being Broyles, Ikard, and Ronnell. Where the players come from makes no difference. Guys with offers to Oklahoma could likely play for just about any school in the country, and they picked Oklahoma. It's not like they're stuck here becase no one else wanted them.

Don't forget Box. Colvin could possibly be a starter too.

sendbaht
2/19/2011, 11:14 PM
Just like UT has never won a title without a coach who has had a Sooner connection.

and didn't texas name their football studium after a Oklahoma native and a Sooner football player????

OUEngr1990
2/19/2011, 11:28 PM
Don't forget that texas never won a single national title without a former SOONER driving the ship! BOOMER!

Ruf/Nek7
2/19/2011, 11:40 PM
4 out of 5 Heisman winners are Oklahoma born...and I was born and raised in Texas. Not our fault Texas athletes want to come to OU.

Chiliman
2/20/2011, 10:36 AM
We have an excellent chance to win a title next season with our only starters from Oklahoma being Broyles, Ikard, and Ronnell. Where the players come from makes no difference. Guys with offers to Oklahoma could likely play for just about any school in the country, and they picked Oklahoma. It's not like they're stuck here becase no one else wanted them.

Austin Box may beg to differ.

sperry
2/20/2011, 11:41 AM
Austin Box may beg to differ.



Good for him, doens't change my point at all. Where the players are from makes absolutely no difference.

yankee
2/20/2011, 12:06 PM
We have an excellent chance to win a title next season with our only starters from Oklahoma being Broyles, Ikard, and Ronnell. Where the players come from makes no difference. Guys with offers to Oklahoma could likely play for just about any school in the country, and they picked Oklahoma. It's not like they're stuck here becase no one else wanted them.


Good for him, doens't change my point at all. Where the players are from makes absolutely no difference.

+2

I'd expect to find this thread on orangepower, not Soonerfans. This is an aggy thread.

adoniijahsooner
2/20/2011, 12:37 PM
Good for him, doens't change my point at all. Where the players are from makes absolutely no difference.

Apparently it does make a difference, because no matter what you say, The University of Oklahoma has only won National Championships with a majority of Oklahoma kids. So you can spout all the opinions you want, but they are not fact. It helps because you don't have to sit there looking like an idiot when a Texas fan says we can only win with Texas players.

adoniijahsooner
2/20/2011, 12:43 PM
Here are the stats....


1950
48 Oklahoma, 9 Texas, 1 MI, 3 unknown
48 Oklahomans of 61 total players
79% Oklahomans vs. 15% Texans

1955
45 Oklahoma, 12 Texas, 1 MS, 1 TN, 1 NM, 1 KS, 1 unknown
45 Oklahomans of 64 total players;
70% Oklahomans vs. 19% Texans

1956
44 Oklahoma, 15 Texas, 1 MS, 1 TN, 1 NM, 1 MO, 1 WY, 1 KS
44 Oklahomans of 67 of total players;
66% Oklahomans vs. 22% Texans

1974
75 Oklahoma, 38 Texas, 6 LA, 5 CO, 3 NM, 2 MI, 2 CA, 2 OH, 2 AR, 1 KS, 1 AZ, 1 NJ, 1 PA, 1 TN, 1 IA,
75 Oklahomans of 142 of total players;
53% Oklahomans vs. 27% Texans

1975
58 Oklahoma, 43 Texas, 6 LA, 3 CO, 3 FL, 3 TN, 2 CA, 2 NM, 2 MI, 2 NJ, 1 OH, 1 KS, 1 AR, 1, AZ, 1 PA, 1 IA
58 Oklahomans of 130 of total players;
45% Oklahomans vs. 33% Texans

1985
49 Oklahoma, 29 Texas, 5 MO, 4 CO, 4 AR, 3 CA, 3 KS, 2 FL, 1 WA, 1 IN, 1
49 Oklahomans of 101 of total players;
49% Oklahomans vs. 29% Texans

2000
64 Oklahoma, 22 Texas, 4 FL, 3 CA, 3 MO, 2 CO, 2 KS, GA, 1 LA, 1 NY
64 Oklahomans of 105 of total players;
61% Oklahomans vs. 21% Texans

OUEngr1990
2/20/2011, 12:45 PM
excellent

OUEngr1990
2/20/2011, 12:46 PM
notice '74 and '75 seems like we had alot more depth in those days (more players)

OUEngr1990
2/20/2011, 12:51 PM
so overall 57% okies, 25% texans, and 18% others (based on the above data)

OUEngr1990
2/20/2011, 12:53 PM
Most of those stupid horns I argue with think that OU is 90% texas players. This data will be quite handy for those arguments...

lexsooner
2/20/2011, 01:49 PM
Here are the stats....

OMG! We are screwed this coming season. Our only starters for the 2011 season from Oklahoma are Ikard, Broyles, McGee, Box, Lewis, and possibly Colvin. They project more than twice as many players from Texas starting the other positions. We should give it up: Too many Texans ;)

madillsoonerfan5353
2/21/2011, 10:25 AM
We've also never won a championship without a head coach who's name starts with a B. Ever. Therefore, when bob resigns we must hire someone with a B name.

I know this will **** Curly Bill off, but are you thinking Brent Venables?

:pop:

silverwheels
2/21/2011, 11:03 AM
I think Venables would make a pretty good head coach.

badger
2/21/2011, 12:17 PM
Bawww, we're Texas, we can get any recruit we want, but when it turns out that the recruits we got were the wrong ones, we'll just try to take ownership of the ones other schools got that we should have pursued instead. Let's blame others instead of incompetent, complacent, soon-to-be retiring :mack:


Hook em

stoopified
2/21/2011, 06:09 PM
I know this will **** Curly Bill off, but are you thinking Brent Venables?

:pop:Everyone knows the next Killer B will be Bosh Heupel

texaspokieokie
2/22/2011, 12:47 PM
Just like UT has never won a title without a coach who has had a Sooner connection.

i don't think being an assistant for one year, over 25 yrs ago, is much of a connection.

texaspokieokie
2/22/2011, 12:52 PM
Apparently it does make a difference, because no matter what you say, The University of Oklahoma has only won National Championships with a majority of Oklahoma kids. So you can spout all the opinions you want, but they are not fact. It helps because you don't have to sit there looking like an idiot when a Texas fan says we can only win with Texas players.

check the number of starters & others who play a lot.
where do they come from ???