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soonerbub
2/10/2011, 12:23 PM
this is a BIG ****ING DEAL

delhalew
2/10/2011, 12:32 PM
What has struck me throughout this thing is the relationship between the military and the people. If the pull off a peaceful transition to a temporary military rule, followed by legitimate elections, that will be an amazing accomplishment. I even heard that the one thing that would bring a violent response from the military would be if a group like The Muslim Brotherhood tried to hijack the process.

AlboSooner
2/10/2011, 12:33 PM
Good news. Let's pray the Moslem brotherhood doesn't take power.

soonerbub
2/10/2011, 12:33 PM
no violence yet--the army is in control and has told the people "your demands are being met"

from our perspective--I can't help but to think the devil you know versus the devil you don't...

History unfolding within the hour

OUMallen
2/10/2011, 12:59 PM
Huge news. The Muslim Brotherhood wouldn't be a great solution, but I don't think it would be as world-ending as everyone seems to think.

ouwasp
2/10/2011, 01:01 PM
Hmmm... wonder if Egypt and Israel will be able to continue to stay away from each other's throats...oh wait...Israel has nukes. That usually calms things down between adversaries. Why Israel continues to allow attacks by Iran's proxies is a whole other question...

soonerbub
2/10/2011, 01:05 PM
No way in hell the army allows the MB to take over

IMO of course

OUMallen
2/10/2011, 01:12 PM
It doesn't sound like the MB is at the forefront of this fisaco, really. Not that any of us really know from the cheap seats. :)

StoopTroup
2/10/2011, 01:16 PM
How can Obama and his Czars support Mubarak leaving? Dictators turning on Dictators? Wow !

Is Barry gonna make Egypt a State?

soonerbub
2/10/2011, 01:17 PM
uh oh Cairo Bob now saying he's not leaving

the people chanting "civil not military"

of course nothing is ever smooth in that corner of the world

StoopTroup
2/10/2011, 01:17 PM
Hmmm... wonder if Egypt and Israel will be able to continue to stay away from each other's throats...oh wait...Israel has nukes. That usually calms things down between adversaries. Why Israel continues to allow attacks by Iran's proxies is a whole other question...

Because we tell them to?

ouwasp
2/10/2011, 01:35 PM
Because we tell them to?

Could be....in fact, that makes more sense than most any other scenario. I was naive enough to believe Netanyahu would actually be intolerant of the perpetual crap from Hamas, etc.

Tired of Iran and Radical Islam. :mad: If the Raghead Rads take Egypt... :mad:

MR2-Sooner86
2/10/2011, 01:52 PM
Even if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over and wants to set their sights on Israel, I doubt the military will allow that.

Peace has been good to Egypt. The last couple of times they tried to go after Israel they got the ever living sh*t kicked out of them.

Mississippi Sooner
2/10/2011, 02:10 PM
Egypt needs to bring back the pharaohs. A few new pyramids would be sweet, too. Embrace the past while looking towards the future.

soonerbub
2/10/2011, 02:23 PM
Enslaving the Jews to build them could be problematic nowadays tho

too soon? :eek:


Srsly tho if he doesn't step down at this point these people will go absolutely APE****--reports of the presidential palace now cordoned off by tanks & razor wire

Bourbon St Sooner
2/10/2011, 02:34 PM
uh oh Cairo Bob now saying he's not leaving

the people chanting "civil not military"

of course nothing is ever smooth in that corner of the world

It's Cairo Carl. Get it right.

Why does every dictator need an Information Ministry? Everybody knows you're censoring the news so why advertise it? The should call their propadanda minister Vice President like we do here.

bigfatjerk
2/10/2011, 04:17 PM
I guess he's not leaving.

IndySooner
2/10/2011, 04:23 PM
It's gonna hit the fan!

soonerchk
2/10/2011, 04:29 PM
Crowds heading for the tv station?

Oldnslo
2/10/2011, 04:41 PM
"Go home".

Yeah, that'll do it.

delhalew
2/10/2011, 05:25 PM
Did you hear Obama? I think Beck was right. I think this is a manipulation. Our own state dept. says the Muslim Brotherhood is SECULAR.

This morning the news people are calling this a "fall of the Berlin wall" moment, all the while it looks more like an "Arch Duke Ferdinand" moment.

stoopified
2/10/2011, 05:31 PM
Egypt needs to bring back the pharaohs. A few new pyramids would be sweet, too. Embrace the past while looking towards the future.Yeah but make them practical- malls and resturants.

OULenexaman
2/10/2011, 05:39 PM
I'm beginning to think this dude is just tryin to see how far he can push them...

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 05:42 PM
Did you hear Obama? I think Beck was right. I think this is a manipulation. Our own state dept. says the Muslim Brotherhood is SECULAR.

This morning the news people are calling this a "fall of the Berlin wall" moment, all the while it looks more like an "Arch Duke Ferdinand" moment.

Of heard this "Archduke Ferdinand" moment mentioned in various new sources. Am I missing some secret analysis in this? What the hell does Serbian nationalism have to do with Egypt?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/10/2011, 05:43 PM
Huge news. The Muslim Brotherhood wouldn't be a great solution, but I don't think it would be as world-ending as everyone seems to think.:gary: Gary don't like that schtick!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/10/2011, 05:46 PM
Even if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over and wants to set their sights on Israel, I doubt the military will allow that.

Peace has been good to Egypt. The last couple of times they tried to go after Israel they got the ever living sh*t kicked out of them.The plethora of Middle East nukes makes things very different now.

soonerscuba
2/10/2011, 05:50 PM
Of heard this "Archduke Ferdinand" moment mentioned in various new sources. Am I missing some secret analysis in this? What the hell does Serbian nationalism have to do with Egypt?Because using transference of historical events which the president cannot control but can be equated (even if falsely) is easier than critical thought and serves the base desires of Beck's audience? Just a shot.

The Profit
2/10/2011, 05:52 PM
Did you hear Obama? I think Beck was right. I think this is a manipulation. Our own state dept. says the Muslim Brotherhood is SECULAR.

This morning the news people are calling this a "fall of the Berlin wall" moment, all the while it looks more like an "Arch Duke Ferdinand" moment.




Beck is never right....

delhalew
2/10/2011, 05:56 PM
Of heard this "Archduke Ferdinand" moment mentioned in various new sources. Am I missing some secret analysis in this? What the hell does Serbian nationalism have to do with Egypt?

Think less about the genesis, and more about WWIII.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 06:17 PM
Think less about the genesis, and more about WWIII.

Sorry, don't own a jump to conclusion mat.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 06:25 PM
Because using transference of historical events which the president cannot control but can be equated (even if falsely) is easier than critical thought and serves the base desires of Beck's audience? Just a shot.

ah, boilerplate rubbish.

delhalew
2/10/2011, 06:25 PM
Sorry, don't own a jump to conclusion mat.

I know what you mean. That would be totally out of the realm of possibility...uhh...

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 06:31 PM
I know what you mean. That would be totally out of the realm of possibility...uhh...

In Glenn Beck's world, nothing is out of the realm of possibility. The only way is becomes WWIII is if we choose to continue to stick our beaks in other people's business.

delhalew
2/10/2011, 06:59 PM
In Glenn Beck's world, nothing is out of the realm of possibility. The only way is becomes WWIII is if we choose to continue to stick our beaks in other people's business.

Im not Beck. The only reason I mentioned him is because he said something last week about Muslim fundamentalist working with leftists to bring forth revolution in Egypt. The Ny times today confirmed this, in their own misguided way.

One thing you are right about, is that our Pres and everyone else in his administration, need to shut their mouths until they have something useful to share.

IndySooner
2/10/2011, 07:02 PM
Im not Beck. The only reason I mentioned him is because he said something last week about Muslim fundamentalist working with leftists to bring forth revolution in Egypt. The Ny times today confirmed this, in their own misguided way.

One thing you are right about, is that our Pres and everyone else in his administration, need to shut their mouths until they have something useful to share.

The Muslim Brotherhood should not be confused with the Taliban, unless of course, you're Glenn Beck. They are a peaceful organization and would work with the U.S., from all accounts.

The revolution in Egypt has been started and aided by the availability of information. You'll see more and more of these oppressed people do the same as Twitter, Facebook, etc., allow them to organize and create revolutions.

delhalew
2/10/2011, 07:19 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood should not be confused with the Taliban, unless of course, you're Glenn Beck. They are a peaceful organization and would work with the U.S., from all accounts.

The revolution in Egypt has been started and aided by the availability of information. You'll see more and more of these oppressed people do the same as Twitter, Facebook, etc., allow them to organize and create revolutions.

That is the narrative. I'm telling you I decided today that it is misdirection.

Its not my problem if you don't believe me. We shall see.

In your world can fundamentalists and Socialists not figure out how to start **** in 140 characters or less?

bigfatjerk
2/10/2011, 07:23 PM
I am not sure the Muslim Brotherhood is any good. I think that Clapper saying that is very much wrong. Everyone I've seen on TV since from MSNBC to Fox that has been asked to respond to that comment has pretty much scoffed at it.

The Muslim Brotherhood getting power there is probably not a good thing for USA/Israel interests.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 07:25 PM
Im not Beck. The only reason I mentioned him is because he said something last week about Muslim fundamentalist working with leftists to bring forth revolution in Egypt. The Ny times today confirmed this, in their own misguided way.

One thing you are right about, is that our Pres and everyone else in his administration, need to shut their mouths until they have something useful to share.

Damn, that is a whole lotta bugaboos wrapped up in nice, neat, consumable package. Yeah, cause his lame *** foreign policy is what has dragged us into that hornet's nest.:rolleyes:

delhalew
2/10/2011, 07:30 PM
Damn, that is a whole lotta bugaboos wrapped up in nice, neat, consumable package. Yeah, cause his lame *** foreign policy is what has dragged us into that hornet's nest.:rolleyes:

He stepped in it so badly today, that the Saudi Prince called to say please STFU.

ouwasp
2/10/2011, 07:38 PM
At the risk of sounding anti-democratic, which I am not...just mulling over the Cairo deal...

You know, if the Egyptian authorities ever really get serious about dispersing the crowd, they should not bother with tear gas; how many times have we seen the underdog citizen throwing a canister back?

Water cannons...do they have those in Egypt?

No Tienamen (sp?) Square crap like the Red Chinese pulled. That was bad, even for commies.

They need to bring in about 500 a$$-chewing German Shepherds. The dogs won't be concerned about rights, TV time, chanting, etc. They'll just clear out the objects in their way.

I hope things simmer down, and some sort of elections can be held in Sept. But I'm afraid the Radical Islamists are gonna hijack the movement.

C&CDean
2/10/2011, 07:42 PM
Y'all know what? I'm gonna order Chinese. Four Treasures in Garlic Sauce, hot & sour soup.

TIA.

delhalew
2/10/2011, 07:48 PM
Y'all know what? I'm gonna order Chinese. Four Treasures in Garlic Sauce, hot & sour soup.

TIA.

*******. That sounds good.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 07:57 PM
He stepped in it so badly today, that the Saudi Prince called to say please STFU.

Yeah, so much for that National Review and American Standard claptrap about spreading democracy huh. Guess Rumsfeld was right after all, it is messy.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/10/2011, 08:08 PM
Of heard this "Archduke Ferdinand" moment mentioned in various new sources. Am I missing some secret analysis in this? What the hell does Serbian nationalism have to do with Egypt?Wait, did he really say that?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/10/2011, 08:10 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood should not be confused with the Taliban, unless of course, you're Glenn Beck. They are a peaceful organization and would work with the U.S., from all accounts.

The revolution in Egypt has been started and aided by the availability of information. You'll see more and more of these oppressed people do the same as Twitter, Facebook, etc., allow them to organize and create revolutions.Wait, did (s)he really say that?

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 08:17 PM
Wait, did he really say that?

Yep, and all I got out of it was boilerplate nonsense about WWIII. Are people really serious in their analysis that Egypt is comparable to the chain of events that sparked WWI. Really? Imperialism, industrialization, colonies, an epic arms race is an equivalent narrative? C'mon surely this nation hasn't become that dopey has it.

Turd_Ferguson
2/10/2011, 08:29 PM
Yep, and all I got out of it was boilerplate nonsense about WWIII. Are people really serious in their analysis that Egypt is comparable to the chain of events that sparked WWI. Really? Imperialism, industrialization, colonies, an epic arms race is an equivalent narrative? C'mon surely this nation hasn't become that dopey has it.Maybe it has...or maybe, somebody just thinks they ****'n know everything.

AlboSooner
2/10/2011, 08:40 PM
Of heard this "Archduke Ferdinand" moment mentioned in various new sources. Am I missing some secret analysis in this? What the hell does Serbian nationalism have to do with Egypt?

It's Glenn Beck. He can say any fallacy he wishes.

AlbqSooner
2/10/2011, 08:54 PM
Y'all know what? I'm gonna order Chinese. TIA.

Well, there ya go again, upsetting the balance of trade.;)

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 08:57 PM
It's Glenn Beck. He can say any fallacy he wishes.

Yes, we know the dude is an idjit.

My issue is twofold regarding Egypt. What happened to the master plan behind dropping trillions in cash down two ****holes? Wasn't the spread of democracy part of the whole grand scheme? Where have those folks gone to ground? They must realize that their previous agitprop doesn't quite fit in this situation.

Who gives a **** if the Egyptians want a fundie state. Reality has proven that the more fundamental the state is the less capable it is of economic growth, a centralized state, or remotely able to threaten then existence of these United States. Let Muslim nations vote for these Islamic states, let them continue to live in rigid, joyless, grey societies. Then they can grapple with the societal concerns of giving up the comforts and joys of this life for the one promised by Allah in the next, or not. I'm tired of my tax dollars supporting kleptocrats and authoritarian states.

bigfatjerk
2/10/2011, 09:08 PM
Yes, we know the dude is an idjit.

My issue is twofold regarding Egypt. What happened to the master plan behind dropping trillions in cash down two ****holes? Wasn't the spread of democracy part of the whole grand scheme? Where have those folks gone to ground? They must realize that their previous agitprop doesn't quite fit in this situation.

Who gives a **** if the Egyptians want a fundie state. Reality has proven that the more fundamental the state is the less capable it is of economic growth, a centralized state, or remotely able to threaten then existence of these United States. Let Muslim nations vote for these Islamic states, let them continue to live in rigid, joyless, grey societies. Then they can grapple with the societal concerns of giving up the comforts and joys of this life for the one promised by Allah in the next, or not. I'm tired of my tax dollars supporting kleptocrats and authoritarian states.

Neither party wants to stop funding other nations. I think the only people calling to defund these countries are the Ron and Rand Paul and a few other libertarians. Most of the democrats are for spending more and more money overseas.

AlboSooner
2/10/2011, 09:10 PM
Who gives a **** if the Egyptians want a fundie state. Reality has proven that the more fundamental the state is the less capable it is of economic growth, a centralized state, or remotely able to threaten then existence of these United States.

I don't hold the same view. The US has many interests in the region which could be damaged by an unstable Egypt. For example the crude oil trade passes through the Red Sea channel. An unstable Egypt not only adds to the crude oil price (which weakens the economy), but an unstable Egypt raises concerns of terrorism.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 09:17 PM
I don't hold the same view. The US has many interests in the region which could be damaged by an unstable Egypt. For example the crude oil trade passes through the Red Sea channel. An unstable Egypt not only adds to the crude oil price (which weakens the economy), but an unstable Egypt raises concerns of terrorism.

No doubt the US has national interests in the region. We have been propping up autocrats in the region for this very reason. Sounds like a perfect time to re-think our national interests. Might be a good way to reduce our crushing debt.

AlboSooner
2/10/2011, 09:21 PM
No doubt the US has national interests in the region. We have been propping up autocrats in the region for this very reason. Sounds like a perfect time to re-think our national interests. Might be a good way to reduce our crushing debt.

Absolutely. However, you have to be energy independent to do that. You have to be Brazil.

SoonerProphet
2/10/2011, 09:28 PM
Absolutely. However, you have to be energy independent to do that. You have to be Brazil.

Well, that might beg the question of ends justifying the means, or something like that.

bigfatjerk
2/10/2011, 09:43 PM
Well, that might beg the question of ends justifying the means, or something like that.

Why do we use the middle east for all of our oil? This goes to the other thread. I would think there would be more accessible sources for oil than just the middle east. And as I also said over there our views on alternative fuels are poor also. Especially in not trying to get towards Nukes.

JohnnyMack
2/10/2011, 10:06 PM
Why do we use the middle east for all of our oil? This goes to the other thread. I would think there would be more accessible sources for oil than just the middle east. And as I also said over there our views on alternative fuels are poor also. Especially in not trying to get towards Nukes.

Because the stupid brown man who lived in rocks and caves was easy to deceive by big business man.

soonercruiser
2/10/2011, 10:15 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood should not be confused with the Taliban, unless of course, you're Glenn Beck. They are a peaceful organization and would work with the U.S., from all accounts.


:eek:
Are you CRAZY????

From the Muslim Brotherhood's Web Page....


Muslim Brotherhood
Muslim Brotherhood emblem:
Qur'an and Swords
The Muslim Brotherhood (Arabic: Hizb al Ikhwan al Muslimeen - The party of the Muslim Brothers or Jamaat al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun - Society of the Muslim brotherhood ) is a fundamentalist international organization or organizations originating in Egypt, whose goals are the conversion of Muslim countries into states ruled by Sha'aria law, the re-establishment of the Caliphate and ultimately, world dominion. The Muslim Brotherhood's ideology, which insists that Islam is a prescription for governance as well as religion, is the prototypical example of Islamism. Their slogan is self-explanatory: "God is our purpose, the Prophet our leader, the Qur'an our constitution, Jihad our way and dying for God's cause our supreme objective.
http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/muslim_brotherhood.htm



Wikipedia....
BeliefsPart of the Politics series on
Islamism In the group's belief, the Quran and Sunnah constitute a perfect way of life and social and political organization that God has set out for man. Islamic governments must be based on this system and eventually unified in a Caliphate. The Muslim Brotherhood's goal, as stated by Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna was to reclaim Islam’s manifest destiny, an empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia.[21] It preaches that Islam enjoins man to strive for social justice, the eradication of poverty and corruption, and political freedom to the extent allowed by the laws of Islam. The Brotherhood strongly opposes Western colonialism, and helped overthrow the pro-western monarchies in Egypt and other Muslim nations during the early 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood



Muslim Brotherhood, the banned opposition political outfit in Egypt, supports terrorism according to FBI Director Robert Muller. Muller made the statement during a Congressional hearing on Thursday where lawmakers said that the group is using peaceful protests in Egypt to grab power.
“Elements of the Muslim Brotherhood here and overseas have supported terrorism,” Muller said in response to a question at a hearing on “Worldwide Threats” by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Muller, who refrained to give any further information in an open session, said that the United States has no relationship with Muslim Brotherhood.
Top US intelligence officials including the CIA Director Leon Panetta and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before the hearing chaired by Rep. Mime Rogers (R-MI).
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/briefs/articles/90033976?FBI%3A%20Muslim%20Brotherhood%20supports% 20terrorism

StoopTroup
2/10/2011, 10:24 PM
The Egyptian Govt and the Military need to truck in food and water and bring the folks in the square love and understanding. In a few days they should pay Bono and Elton to come play a Concert. Invite local talent too. Once things are really going folks from Hollywood and Nashville could come in and we could maybe keep this love in going until Football Season starts. If they haven't worked it out by then....screw it, let them fight it put to the death. Send guns to both sides. Make it equal and see how the Muslim Brotherhood does in gorrilla combat.

By then Bob will have our boys ready to kick some *** and Dean can get the beer and tailgate food going.

soonercruiser
2/10/2011, 10:49 PM
Bad idea!
That pushes back the conflict & a resolution right into football season.
Bad planning...

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 01:34 AM
Absolutely. However, you have to be energy independent to do that. You have to be Brazil.or...the USA. We could open lots of areas that have been declare no drill or mining areas, and become a LOT more energy independent. But, you already know that, or at least should know.

Blue
2/11/2011, 01:38 AM
I'm thinkin this is gonna get squashed like the uprising in Iran.

The dictators are totally out of touch. They think they are Gods or something. When he said, "My children" today I about puked.

Oh and I heard one protester say, "Give me liberty or give me death!" Flattering, but get your own revolutionary slogans, Achmed.

Curly Bill
2/11/2011, 02:45 AM
I'm thinkin this is gonna get squashed like the uprising in Iran.

The dictators are totally out of touch. They think they are Gods or something. When he said, "My children" today I about puked.

Oh and I heard one protester say, "Give me liberty or give me death!" Flattering, but get your own revolutionary slogans, Achmed.


Made me laugh. :P

delhalew
2/11/2011, 03:06 AM
Why do we use the middle east for all of our oil? This goes to the other thread. I would think there would be more accessible sources for oil than just the middle east. And as I also said over there our views on alternative fuels are poor also. Especially in not trying to get towards Nukes.

We don't. You have to get to third on the list before you get to Saudi Arabia.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

sooner n houston
2/11/2011, 09:05 AM
:eek:
Are you CRAZY????

From the Muslim Brotherhood's Web Page....

Quote:
Muslim Brotherhood
Muslim Brotherhood emblem:
Qur'an and Swords
The Muslim Brotherhood (Arabic: Hizb al Ikhwan al Muslimeen - The party of the Muslim Brothers or Jamaat al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun - Society of the Muslim brotherhood ) is a fundamentalist international organization or organizations originating in Egypt, whose goals are the conversion of Muslim countries into states ruled by Sha'aria law, the re-establishment of the Caliphate and ultimately, world dominion. The Muslim Brotherhood's ideology, which insists that Islam is a prescription for governance as well as religion, is the prototypical example of Islamism. Their slogan is self-explanatory: "God is our purpose, the Prophet our leader, the Qur'an our constitution, Jihad our way and dying for God's cause our supreme objective.
http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-Eas...rotherhood.htm

Quote:
Wikipedia....
BeliefsPart of the Politics series on
Islamism In the group's belief, the Quran and Sunnah constitute a perfect way of life and social and political organization that God has set out for man. Islamic governments must be based on this system and eventually unified in a Caliphate. The Muslim Brotherhood's goal, as stated by Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna was to reclaim Islam’s manifest destiny, an empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia.[21] It preaches that Islam enjoins man to strive for social justice, the eradication of poverty and corruption, and political freedom to the extent allowed by the laws of Islam. The Brotherhood strongly opposes Western colonialism, and helped overthrow the pro-western monarchies in Egypt and other Muslim nations during the early 20th century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

Quote:
Muslim Brotherhood, the banned opposition political outfit in Egypt, supports terrorism according to FBI Director Robert Muller. Muller made the statement during a Congressional hearing on Thursday where lawmakers said that the group is using peaceful protests in Egypt to grab power.
“Elements of the Muslim Brotherhood here and overseas have supported terrorism,” Muller said in response to a question at a hearing on “Worldwide Threats” by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Muller, who refrained to give any further information in an open session, said that the United States has no relationship with Muslim Brotherhood.
Top US intelligence officials including the CIA Director Leon Panetta and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before the hearing chaired by Rep. Mime Rogers (R-MI).
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/brief...% 20terrorism


Please pay attention people. These quotes, from their own website, tell you the truth about who these people are. Glen Beck is right, if you don't know what Caliphate is please do some research!

yermom
2/11/2011, 09:33 AM
i think i'm with Coco on this one... :D

http://i.imgur.com/pgCjj.jpg

OULenexaman
2/11/2011, 10:22 AM
I wonder what King Tut thinks about all this...

JohnnyMack
2/11/2011, 10:52 AM
Please pay attention people. These quotes, from their own website, tell you the truth about who these people are. Glen Beck is right, if you don't know what Caliphate is please do some research!

http://www.tfhp.org/images/tinfoil-hat.jpg

bigfatjerk
2/11/2011, 11:04 AM
Mubarak just resigned, I think, well maybe.

bigfatjerk
2/11/2011, 11:06 AM
Crowds suddenly went crazy in Cairo

olevetonahill
2/11/2011, 11:18 AM
Yup Hes gone
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_egypt

Pricetag
2/11/2011, 11:37 AM
The Onion had a story yesterday that the Egyptian protesters were "hoping for something a little better than democracy."

I can't believe the Mubarak is over 80 years old. Isn't that dude supposed to be at Luby's or something?

soonerbub
2/11/2011, 11:51 AM
This is like the end of Return of the Jedi

now back to your regularly scheduled fearmongering

Position Limit
2/11/2011, 11:53 AM
now if we can just get our own guy in there it will be true americana democracy

OUMallen
2/11/2011, 12:12 PM
now if we can just get our own guy in there it will be true americana democracy

http://www.onlineusanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/sarah-palin-alaska.jpg

Position Limit
2/11/2011, 12:15 PM
how long till palin gets an offer from playboy and takes it?

DIB
2/11/2011, 12:18 PM
how long till palin gets an offer from playboy and takes it?

Dec 2012

AlboSooner
2/11/2011, 01:23 PM
or...the USA. We could open lots of areas that have been declare no drill or mining areas, and become a LOT more energy independent. But, you already know that, or at least should know.

I am not interested in Pyrrhic victories. The way to go forward does not lead backwards. There is some interesting research going which I will not go into; especially in the area of nano-technology.

JohnnyMack
2/11/2011, 01:30 PM
I am not interested in Pyrrhic victories. The way to go forward does not lead backwards. There is some interesting research going which I will not go into; especially in the area of nano-technology.

Fact 1: Jesus rode a dinosaur.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/431306643_528c65a6b3.jpg

Fact 2: Dinosaurs turned into oil.

Fact 3: Jesus wants us to keep drilling for oil and isn't so much interested in your scientific mumbo jumbo.

okie52
2/11/2011, 01:41 PM
I am not interested in Pyrrhic victories. The way to go forward does not lead backwards. There is some interesting research going which I will not go into; especially in the area of nano-technology.

Pyrrhic victories as in continued exploration?

The Profit
2/11/2011, 02:18 PM
Fact 1: Jesus rode a dinosaur.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/172/431306643_528c65a6b3.jpg

Fact 2: Dinosaurs turned into oil.

Fact 3: Jesus wants us to keep drilling for oil and isn't so much interested in your scientific mumbo jumbo.



Please notice that they don't have JC riding on a Tyrannosaurus.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 04:00 PM
I am not interested in Pyrrhic victories. The way to go forward does not lead backwards. There is some interesting research going which I will not go into; especially in the area of nano-technology.You got something ready for use that's available and affordable? If not, WTF?haha

AlboSooner
2/11/2011, 06:24 PM
You got something ready for use that's available and affordable?


You are re-defining the issue from technology to cost.

To answer to your question nothing is cheap and affordable in the beginning and without some kind of governmental subsidy. For example, a can of Coke, and bread in general would be much more expensive if the government didn't subsidy corn (corn syrup is made from corn) and wheat. This subsidy enables the US farmers to produce a lot of corn and make a good profit.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 06:41 PM
You are re-defining the issue from technology to cost.

To answer to your question nothing is cheap and affordable in the beginning and without some kind of governmental subsidy. For example, a can of Coke, and bread in general would be much more expensive if the government didn't subsidy corn (corn syrup is made from corn) and wheat. This subsidy enables the US farmers to produce a lot of corn and make a good profit.Without discussing the issue of subsidies, what is it that is now affordable to the energy consumer to run their autos with the ease and capacity we are used to, that is avaliable now?

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 06:43 PM
You are re-defining the issue from technology to cost. Because the Rolls Royce has been invented, shouldn't we all have one?

AlboSooner
2/11/2011, 06:47 PM
Without discussing the issue of subsidies, what is it that is now affordable to the energy consumer to run their autos with the ease and capacity we are used to, that is avaliable now?


Because the Rolls Royce has been invented, shouldn't we all have one?

Your point are duly noted. I believe I have explained my position, and I would bore you if I reiterated what I said before. I hope this is not interpreted as a "retreated" but rather as a cordial way of saying: we've said anything that needs to be said.

:)

Boomer Sooner

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 07:15 PM
Your point are duly noted. I believe I have explained my position, and I would bore you if I reiterated what I said before. I hope this is not interpreted as a "retreated" but rather as a cordial way of saying: we've said anything that needs to be said.

:)

Boomer SoonerWell, you didn't really refute my point about oil and gas reserves not being utilized because of politically caused prevention, so, I guess we're good to go!

BOOOMERRRR effin' SOONER! mofo

bigfatjerk
2/11/2011, 07:19 PM
I don't understand how we shut down any energy we could us. Nukes our own oil, anyone else's oil, coal, natural gas. Have it all on the table.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 07:23 PM
I don't understand how we shut down any energy we could us. Nukes our own oil, anyone else's oil, coal, natural gas. Have it all on the table."Thou Shalt not Drill, baby"-US Govt.

I will put the coal companies out of business(paraphrased)-Beary O

okie52
2/11/2011, 07:29 PM
I don't understand how we shut down any energy we could us. Nukes our own oil, anyone else's oil, coal, natural gas. Have it all on the table.

That would seem like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, the last 2 years were geared to eliminate some fuel sources.

bigfatjerk
2/11/2011, 07:37 PM
That would seem like the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, the last 2 years were geared to eliminate some fuel sources.

It's not like our energy policy the past couple decades has really been much better.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 07:46 PM
It's not like our energy policy the past couple decades has really been much better.no shiite. They just came out and admitted some of their goals, finally.

okie52
2/11/2011, 07:46 PM
It's not like our energy policy the past couple decades has really been much better.

No, we could have done more for nukes and offshore drilling although W did try to help both.

What we didn't have in the last decade was a president/congress try to destroy/hamstring energy industries and restrict their access to drillable lands.

Obama has twice put offshore drilling on moratoriums...most recently for the gulf and shortly after taking office on our remaining offshore drilling that had just been opened by W and the congress.

Of course Obama also shutdown Yucca with no explanation nor replacement for it. A man of science.....

bigfatjerk
2/11/2011, 07:49 PM
I'm not saying Obama's any good, he's just to most recent version of our bad energy policies.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
2/11/2011, 07:51 PM
What we didn't have in the last decade was a president/congress try to destroy/hamstring energy industries and restrict their access to drillable lands.

We have indeed had a lot of that before Bear. Of course, he's taken it to the next horizon.

Blue
2/12/2011, 01:49 AM
I'm thinkin this is gonna get squashed like the uprising in Iran.



Well that was a Fat Fail.

It looks like the Iranians are gonna give it another go, too.

http://news.am/eng/news/47594.html

okie52
2/12/2011, 10:16 AM
I'm not saying Obama's any good, he's just to most recent version of our bad energy policies.

The repubs, for the most part, have been trying to grow our energy sources. The dems have killed nukes and are trying to do the same with coal, oil and ng.

The dems, to their credit, have been better about conservation.

okie52
2/12/2011, 10:19 AM
We have indeed had a lot of that before Bear. Of course, he's taken it to the next horizon.

Most opposition to nukes, coal, oil and gas has come from the dems for the last 30 years...not the pubs.

MR2-Sooner86
2/12/2011, 01:35 PM
Well that was a Fat Fail.

It looks like the Iranians are gonna give it another go, too.

http://news.am/eng/news/47594.html

February 14 day of rage

Now THAT is something I could get behind.

This is turning out to be good. I hope the whole damn place turns into a riot. Makes for good TV.

:pop:

soonercruiser
2/12/2011, 02:01 PM
"Thou Shalt not Drill, baby"-US Govt.

I will put the coal companies out of business(paraphrased)-Beary O

The voters in West Va and Kentucky showed Obama what they thought about that idea!
(They gave him coal dust in his Christmas athletic stockings.)
:D

soonercruiser
2/12/2011, 02:02 PM
I'm not saying Obama's any good, he's just to most recent version of our bad energy policies.

Agreed.

soonercruiser
2/12/2011, 02:04 PM
Well that was a Fat Fail.

It looks like the Iranians are gonna give it another go, too.

http://news.am/eng/news/47594.html

Unfortunately, in Iran's case, the military are in the Mullah's pocket.

SanJoaquinSooner
2/13/2011, 01:31 PM
tina Rosenberg has her new book set for release next month. It will be interesting to see if she had insight to what recently transpired in Egypt.


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