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ouwasp
2/3/2011, 06:46 PM
What a flavor... I'm not a big pop drinker, but my wife got some of this last week.... really, really, good. I almost feel guilty for how much I enjoy it!

When I finally got out today to slip/slide my daughter to work, I bought three 2 liters...so, if some of you are still considering that Resolution about losing weight, ouwasp wholeheartedly recommends Coke Zero. :)

2121Sooner
2/3/2011, 06:52 PM
What a flavor... I'm not a big pop drinker, but my wife got some of this last week.... really, really, good. I almost feel guilty for how much I enjoy it!

When I finally got out today to slip/slide my daughter to work, I bought three 2 liters...so, if some of you are still considering that Resolution about losing weight, ouwasp wholeheartedly recommends Coke Zero. :)


So does SicEm.

ouwasp
2/3/2011, 07:01 PM
So does SicEm.

This tempers my enthusiasm.

delhalew
2/3/2011, 07:19 PM
It is the best of all diet soda.

2121Sooner
2/3/2011, 07:23 PM
This tempers my enthusiasm.

It should actually validate any positive feelings you had toward any type of soda.


It is like Charlie Sheen agreeing with your favorite drug.......

Sooner5030
2/3/2011, 07:26 PM
fresca or tab dude.

ouduckhunter
2/3/2011, 07:36 PM
Coke Zero is really good, but with all due respect, Diet Dr Pepper rules!! I can guzzle that stuff by the gallon!

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 07:39 PM
My Wife says.....

Pepsi Max>coke zero or even coke anything

SanJoaquinSooner
2/3/2011, 08:50 PM
Diet DP is the winner.

FirstandGoal
2/3/2011, 08:57 PM
Sorry guys, but anything with aspartame in it is bad for you.


The only beverages I'll consume any more are water, herbal tea, organic coffee, organic milk, and the occasional glass of wine.

mgsooner
2/3/2011, 08:58 PM
Diet Dr Pepper

yankee
2/3/2011, 08:58 PM
The only beverages I'll consume any more are water, herbal tea, organic coffee, organic milk, and the occasional glass of wine.

Well that's no fun.

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 09:04 PM
Sorry guys, but anything with aspartame in it is bad for you.


It's just another internet hoax. If you didn't want to compete with diet drinks....you'd say they had poison in them too.

You can't prove **** about it being bad. All there is...is opinions. One thing I do think is wrong with it all is that just like water.....if you drink to much of it....your body can be adversely affected by it. Everything in moderation is the best way to go.

Gandalf_The_Grey
2/3/2011, 09:12 PM
Cherry Coke Zero trumps all....

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 09:13 PM
I snort Stevia every morning

C&CDean
2/3/2011, 09:27 PM
Diet 7-Up. End of discussion.

Curly Bill
2/3/2011, 09:28 PM
Diet sodas are for girls, and girl wannabes.

Pepsi Throwback for me.

C&CDean
2/3/2011, 09:33 PM
Know how I know you're a diabetic? (or fixin' to be?)

Curly Bill
2/3/2011, 09:36 PM
Know how I know you're a diabetic? (or fixin' to be?)


You're psychic?

C&CDean
2/3/2011, 09:38 PM
No, you're a HFCS addict.

FirstandGoal
2/3/2011, 09:39 PM
It's just another internet hoax. If you didn't want to compete with diet drinks....you'd say they had poison in them too.

You can't prove **** about it being bad. All there is...is opinions. One thing I do think is wrong with it all is that just like water.....if you drink to much of it....your body can be adversely affected by it. Everything in moderation is the best way to go.

Actually, if aspartame gets too hot one of the by-products is methanol.

Every once in a blue moon I will have a soda, but I prefer ones that only use real sugar as their sweeteners and try to avoid the artificial crap as much as I can.

Eielson
2/3/2011, 09:41 PM
No, you're a HFCS addict.

You aspartame addicts will all destroy your neurons, so I guess we're all screwed. Well, except that one person drinking herbal teas.

Curly Bill
2/3/2011, 09:41 PM
No, you're a HFCS addict.

No sir! 40 grams of pure cane sugar for me!

(does that sound kinda ghey?) :D

FirstandGoal
2/3/2011, 09:44 PM
You aspartame addicts will all destroy your neurons, so I guess we're all screwed. Well, except that one person drinking herbal teas.

Words I never, ever want to hear a doctor of mine utter again.....

"You have cancer."

**** like that makes you start taking things like your health real serious.

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 09:52 PM
Actually, if aspartame gets too hot one of the by-products is methanol.

Every once in a blue moon I will have a soda, but I prefer ones that only use real sugar as their sweeteners and try to avoid the artificial crap as much as I can.

Nice try.

Metabolites

Hypotheses of adverse health effects have focused on the three metabolites of aspartame, which are methanol, phenylalanine and aspartic acid. Aspartame is rapidly hydrolyzed in the small intestines. Even with ingestion of very high doses of aspartame (over 200 mg/kg), no aspartame is found in the blood due to the rapid breakdown. These metabolites have been studied in a wide range of populations including infants, children, adolescents, and healthy adults. In healthy adults and children, even enormous doses of aspartame do not lead to plasma levels of metabolites that are a concern for safety. People with the genetic disorder phenylketonuria are advised to avoid aspartame as they have a decreased ability to metabolize phenylalanine. Common foods such as milk, meat, and fruits provide far greater amounts of these metabolites in a diet than aspartame.

It's possible that leaving these sodas out in the heat might be bad but it's because of the retailers storing their products improperly and once it's proven that the heat does this....it's an easy fix. Again...even to much Milk, Meat, Fruit, coffee or tea isn't good for you. A balanced diet is what will be better.

FirstandGoal
2/3/2011, 09:59 PM
Nice try.

Metabolites

Hypotheses of adverse health effects have focused on the three metabolites of aspartame, which are methanol, phenylalanine and aspartic acid. Aspartame is rapidly hydrolyzed in the small intestines. Even with ingestion of very high doses of aspartame (over 200 mg/kg), no aspartame is found in the blood due to the rapid breakdown. These metabolites have been studied in a wide range of populations including infants, children, adolescents, and healthy adults. In healthy adults and children, even enormous doses of aspartame do not lead to plasma levels of metabolites that are a concern for safety. People with the genetic disorder phenylketonuria are advised to avoid aspartame as they have a decreased ability to metabolize phenylalanine. Common foods such as milk, meat, and fruits provide far greater amounts of these metabolites in a diet than aspartame.

It's possible that leaving these sodas out in the heat might be bad but it's because of the retailers storing their products improperly and once it's proven that the heat does this....it's an easy fix. Again...even to much Milk, Meat, Fruit, coffee or tea isn't good for you. A balanced diet is what will be better.

I would take things that wiki lists with a grain of salt. ;)



Aspartame was not approved until 1981, in dry foods. For over eight years the FDA refused to approve it because of the seizures and brain tumors this drug produced in lab animals. The FDA continued to refuse to approve it until President Reagan took office (a friend of Searle) and fired the FDA Commissioner who wouldn't approve it. Dr. Arthur Hull Hayes was appointed as commissioner. Even then there was so much opposition to approval that a Board of Inquiry was set up. The Board said: "Do not approve aspartame". Dr. Hayes OVERRULED his own Board of Inquiry.

Shortly after Commissioner Arthur Hull Hayes, Jr., approved the use of aspartame in carbonated beverages, he left for a position with G.D. Searle's Public Relations firm.

Long-Term Damage. It appears to cause slow, silent damage in those unfortunate enough to not have immediate reactions and a reason to avoid it. It may take one year, five years, 10 years, or 40 years, but it seems to cause some reversible and some irreversible changes in health over long-term use.

METHANOL (AKA WOOD ALCOHOL/POISON) (10% OF ASPARTAME) Methanol/wood alcohol is a deadly poison. People may recall that methanol was the poison that has caused some "skid row" alcoholics to end up blind or dead. Methanol is gradually released in the small intestine when the methyl group of aspartame encounter the enzyme chymotrypsin.

The absorption of methanol into the body is sped up considerably when free methanol is ingested. Free methanol is created from aspartame when it is heated to above 86 Fahrenheit (30 Centigrade). This would occur when aspartame-containing product is improperly stored or when it is heated (e.g., as part of a "food" product such as Jello).

Methanol breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde in the body. Formaldehyde is a deadly neurotoxin. An EPA assessment of methanol states that methanol "is considered a cumulative poison due to the low rate of excretion once it is absorbed. In the body, methanol is oxidized to formaldehyde and formic acid; both of these metabolites are toxic." The recommend a limit of consumption of 7.8 mg/day. A one-liter (approx. 1 quart) aspartame-sweetened beverage contains about 56 mg of methanol. Heavy users of aspartame-containing products consume as much as 250 mg of methanol daily or 32 times the EPA limit.

The most well known problems from methanol poisoning are vision problems. Formaldehyde is a known carcinogen, causes retinal damage, interferes with DNA replication, and causes birth defects. Due to the lack of a couple of key enzymes, humans are many times more sensitive to the toxic effects of methanol than animals. Therefore, tests of aspartame or methanol on animals do not accurately reflect the danger for humans. As pointed out by Dr Woodrow C. Monte, Director of the Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory at Arizona State University, "There are no human or mammalian studies to evaluate the possible mutagenic, teratogenic, or carcinogenic effects of chronic administration of methyl alcohol."

Collier11
2/3/2011, 10:02 PM
People have been saying forever that aspartame causes all kinds of horrible things, I have yet to hear of one case where it actually happened

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 10:06 PM
It's not just Wiki. The FDA in our Country as well as many others all over the World think that a good number of folks in the World think they are experts in diets. I know a few folks who listen to wackos at Health Food places and GNCs and Metrx's that end up at their Doctor wondering why they feel so bad or why their Cholesterol is off the chart....etc.

Usually they end up telling their patients to go throw all that **** away.

If you're a young person....your metabolism probably handles some of that better than when you get older too. I think a diet drink a couple times a week isn't going to kill you like you are trying to imply. If you do a SicEm and have 12 a day. I'm pretty sure the Aspartame is one of the last of your problems. I'm even gonna say that short term....the Aspartame isn't even a concern. It's more than likely the strain on your liver and kidneys that will soon have you in the ER or talking to a specialist.

FirstandGoal
2/3/2011, 10:09 PM
People have been saying forever that aspartame causes all kinds of horrible things, I have yet to hear of one case where it actually happened

In all seriousness, I've done a lot of studying up on this and have talked to more than one oncologist and one of the country's leading endocrinologists about it. I used to be a diet pop (and diet food) junkie. Decided in April '09 something had to give so I cleaned all that crap out of my diet and it was amazing how different I felt. Lost 40 pounds, was able to start running again and lots of misc. aches and pains, and mostly headaches all but stopped.

Collier11
2/3/2011, 10:12 PM
I dont disagree that it would make me healthier to cut out the pop ( I drink about 3-6 a day) but I dont think it causes all of the deadly issues that people talk about being related to aspartame

delhalew
2/3/2011, 10:15 PM
Diet sodas are for girls, and girl wannabes.

Pepsi Throwback for me.

I recently jumped on the throwback wagon...reminds me of being a kid...yum.

Curly Bill
2/3/2011, 10:18 PM
I recently jumped on the throwback wagon...reminds me of being a kid...yum.

The Throwback is smooooooooth! :D

StoopTroup
2/3/2011, 10:18 PM
In all seriousness, I've done a lot of studying up on this and have talked to more than one oncologist and one of the country's leading endocrinologists about it. I used to be a diet pop (and diet food) junkie. Decided in April '09 something had to give so I cleaned all that crap out of my diet and it was amazing how different I felt. Lost 40 pounds, was able to start running again and lots of misc. aches and pains, and mostly headaches all but stopped.

1st....you do understand that a lot of these folks get paid to say the **** they do....right? I mean...even in the Wiki deal they say if you are a healthy person you'll probably not be affected. Some folks do a study so they can get grant money and continue their research. They say stuff about things they may not like. It's about like the Crest thing....4 out of 5 Doctors say Crest reduces cavities.

You just find yourself listening to the 1 out of 5 and decide to believe them because the rest are all wackos who will go along with everything.

We're getting right back to vocet (I might have mispelled this). Basically...your Mom used Tide when you were a kid and nothing else smells good to you but Tide. The rest is just crap. Plus I heard they used Aspartme in it....lol

Collier11
2/3/2011, 10:18 PM
The Brokeback is smooooooooth! :D

Figures :rolleyes:

Curly Bill
2/3/2011, 10:23 PM
Figures :rolleyes:

Whoa there pardner! I see what ya did there. ;)