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Okie35
1/25/2011, 04:10 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/01/24/oversigning/index.html

Leroy Lizard
1/25/2011, 04:35 PM
Never let the biggest offenders write your rules.

TahoeSOONER
1/25/2011, 05:30 PM
I hope the Big 10 and Big 12 push the issue and level out the playing field. There's no doubt it gives a competitive advantage and schools need to honor commitments.

jumperstop
1/25/2011, 05:32 PM
The SEC receives most of the scorn for oversigning, but it isn't the only place where programs embrace the practice. In the past five years, 25 of the 120 FBS programs have averaged more than 25 signees a year. That list includes eight of the 12 SEC schools (Ole Miss, Auburn, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, South Carolina), half the Big 12's current 10-team membership (Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech) and six of Conference USA's 12 schools (Southern Miss, Tulsa, Houston, Marshall, UAB, UTEP).

Haha! :D

cantwait48
1/25/2011, 07:18 PM
I figured this had something to do with aggie when I saw the word toothless in the title.

soonercastor
1/25/2011, 07:30 PM
As long as the students know the implications of signing, I don't see any problem with oversigning.

Okie35
1/25/2011, 10:43 PM
Haha! :D

I laughed at that as well.

Leroy Lizard
1/25/2011, 11:06 PM
As long as the students know the implications of signing, I don't see any problem with oversigning.

You're placing the trust in informing these students in the hands of coaches. It is not in the best interests of the coaches to be honest.

SoonerRoy
1/26/2011, 01:41 AM
I think that - after a suitable advance notice - that the NCAA should limit the number of scholarships in football and basketball that can be given each year. Say 25 in FB and 5 in BB. Schools would also be limited to the same total on ships as currently exists. It wouldn't matter how many players transfer, flunk out or get jail time. Or if you undersigned the year before. No more than 25 & 5 as stated above each year. Of course, with NCAA approval any team that loses a sizable number of athletes due to an accident - plane or bus crash could sign more.

CORNholio
1/26/2011, 02:06 AM
Just eliminate scholly limits. Parity=Mediocrity. Socialistic values are contrary to the competitive nature of sports.

Leroy Lizard
1/26/2011, 02:18 AM
Just eliminate scholly limits. Parity=Mediocrity. Socialistic values are contrary to the competitive nature of sports.

The NFL draft is socialist.

CORNholio
1/26/2011, 02:56 AM
The NFL draft is socialist.


Yup. In America it should be based on a lottery based solely on chance or a system based completely on merit not your level of disadvantage. Parity is ****. And is in its essence derived from socialistic values. When two half *** teams club each other to death no one can tell that they both suck. Somehow this is supposed to be more entertaining than when a few teams rise to the top and assemble some of the greatest teams ever witnessed by mankind (the American way).

soonerboomer93
1/26/2011, 11:03 AM
I think that - after a suitable advance notice - that the NCAA should limit the number of scholarships in football and basketball that can be given each year. Say 25 in FB and 5 in BB. Schools would also be limited to the same total on ships as currently exists. It wouldn't matter how many players transfer, flunk out or get jail time. Or if you undersigned the year before. No more than 25 & 5 as stated above each year. Of course, with NCAA approval any team that loses a sizable number of athletes due to an accident - plane or bus crash could sign more.

AFAIK they do limit the number of scholarships in a given year to 25, and you can have 85 total players on scholarship. However, there's eom back credit, like one year you sign 23, the next year you have 27, but 2 started spring semester and count against the 25 from the previous year. etc...

Leroy Lizard
1/26/2011, 11:24 AM
Yup. In America it should be based on a lottery based solely on chance or a system based completely on merit not your level of disadvantage. Parity is ****. And is in its essence derived from socialistic values. When two half *** teams club each other to death no one can tell that they both suck. Somehow this is supposed to be more entertaining than when a few teams rise to the top and assemble some of the greatest teams ever witnessed by mankind (the American way).

A sport's popularity increases when the competition is tight. Therefore most sports organizations regulate the quality of teams to make them relatively equal. This is especially true in pro sports, since a team that struggles for a long time can go bankrupt.

Remember that college football is an avocation for players, not a job. Scholarship limits are a good idea, but like any rule there will be coaches who find the loopholes.