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Okla-homey
12/29/2010, 07:32 AM
December 29, 1890: U.S. Army massacres Indians at Wounded Knee

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120 years ago, on this day in 1890, in the final chapter of America's long Indian wars, the U.S. Cavalry kills 146 Sioux at Wounded Knee on the Pine Ridge reservation in South Dakota.

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Throughout 1890, the U.S. government worried about the increasing influence at Pine Ridge of the Ghost Dance spiritual movement, which taught that Indians had been defeated and confined to reservations because they had angered the gods by abandoning their traditional customs.

Many Sioux believed that if they practiced the Ghost Dance and rejected the ways of the white man, the gods would create the world anew and destroy all non-believers, including non-Indians.

On December 15, 1890, reservation police tried to arrest Sitting Bull, the famous Sioux chief, who they mistakenly believed was a Ghost Dancer, and killed him in the process, increasing the tensions at Pine Ridge.

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Sitting Bull. He didn't actually believe Ghost Dancing had any magical power, but he approved of the increase of morale among many of his people it brought about

On December 29, a elements of the 7th Cavalry Regiment surrounded a band of Ghost Dancers under the Sioux Chief Big Foot near Wounded Knee Creek and demanded they surrender their weapons.

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Chief Big Foot

As that was happening, a fight broke out between an Indian and a trooper and a shot was fired, although it's unclear from which side. A brutal massacre followed, in which it's estimated almost 150 Indians were killed (some historians put this number at twice as high), nearly half of them non-combatant women and children. The cavalry lost 25 men.

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The troopers were armed with horse-drawn Hotchkiss guns like this one. The Hotchkiss was a breech-loading field piece that fired devastating canister rounds which were pop can sized containers filled with steel balls that made the Hotchkiss essentially an enormous shotgun.

The conflict at Wounded Knee was originally referred to as a battle, but in reality it was a tragic and avoidable massacre. Surrounded by heavily armed troops, it's unlikely that Big Foot's band would have intentionally started a fight.

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January 1, 1891

Some historians speculate that the soldiers of the 7th Cavalry were deliberately taking revenge for the regiment's defeat at Little Bighorn in 1876.

Whatever the motives, the massacre ended the Ghost Dance movement and was the last major confrontation in America's deadly war against the Plains Indians.

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Memorial at the site of the mass grave

Conflict came to Wounded Knee again in February 1973 when it was the site of a 71-day occupation by the activist group AIM (American Indian Movement) and its supporters, who were protesting the U.S. government's mistreatment of American Indians. During the standoff, two Indians were killed, one federal marshal was seriously wounded and numerous people were arrested.

Postscript:

It should be noted that December 29, 1890 was not the bloodiest day in American Indian history. That distinction belongs to March 27, 1814 and the Battle of Horseshoe Bend on the Tallapoosa River near modern Alexander City, Alabama at the close of the Creek War.

On that day, elements of the US 39th Infantry Regiment, the Tennessee militia and their Cherokee and Choctaw allies, all under the command of Andrew Jackson, annihilated over 850 Muscogee (Creek) men, women and children after Jackson's force had won the stand-up fight at a prepared defensive encampment constructed by the Creeks during the Creek War.

Jackson's victory and subsequent massacre of non-combatants and defeated battle survivors broke the back of the Creek resistance, ending the war and thus clearing Alabama for large-scale white settlement and eventual Muscogee (Creek) removal to Oklahoma.

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SoonerStormchaser
12/29/2010, 08:08 AM
And because of Wounded Knee, we get...Sacheen Littlefeather.

GDC
12/29/2010, 09:34 AM
in the final chapter of America's long Indian wars

That's debatable.


On that day, elements of the US 39th Infantry Regiment, the Tennessee militia and their Cherokee and Choctaw allies, all under the command of Andrew Jackson, annihilated over 850 Muscogee (Creek) men, women and children after Jackson's force had won the stand-up fight at a prepared defensive encampment constructed by the Creeks during the Creek War.

There should be an especially tortuous part of hell set aside for Andrew Jackson.

SunnySooner
12/29/2010, 10:38 AM
War is teh suc, whatever form it comes in. What happened to the Indians was often tragic, but there were atrocities committed by both sides for years. The Indians were out-gunned and out-numbered, so they lost their lands and way of life. It's just the way of the world, to the victor go the spoils. It's been that way for time immemorial.

Midtowner
12/29/2010, 01:32 PM
USA!
USA!
USA!

--I'll take my red spek now.

GDC
12/29/2010, 01:40 PM
Cherokees who had already been removed to Oklahoma were still being forcibly removed as late as the 1960s, to be "urbanized" in places like California, for instance.

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stoopified
12/29/2010, 03:35 PM
Go Whitey :)

GDC
12/29/2010, 03:39 PM
I think that open grave picture is insensitive and inappropriate and should be deleted.

soonerchk
12/29/2010, 03:41 PM
It might have ended the Ghost Dance Movement, but it didn't end the Ghost Dance.

2121Sooner
12/29/2010, 07:13 PM
It might have ended the Ghost Dance Movement, but it didn't end the Ghost Dance.

Cause nobody puts baby in a corner.....

Okla-homey
12/29/2010, 07:17 PM
I think that open grave picture is insensitive and inappropriate and should be deleted.

History isn't pretty. Insensitivity doesn't have anything to do with it. By looking at such pictures, perhaps we can avoid repeating such atrocities.

MR2-Sooner86
12/29/2010, 07:55 PM
We should have done more. I mean we did this and only gave them gambling as a "we're sorry." If we would've gone all holocaust on their *** we might have prostitution and nose candy at the Hard Rock.

AlbqSooner
12/29/2010, 08:31 PM
History isn't pretty. Insensitivity doesn't have anything to do with it. By looking at such pictures, perhaps we can avoid repeating such atrocities.

This is one reason Ike ordered pictures taken en masse at Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Without the pictures, it would be easier to deny and even forget.

StoopTroup
12/29/2010, 08:39 PM
The 1973 deal was what I think of every time I hear the name.

Okla-homey
12/29/2010, 09:35 PM
This is one reason Ike ordered pictures taken en masse at Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Without the pictures, it would be easier to deny and even forget.

And the locals who weren't otherwise "aware" of what was happening in the camps, were compelled to tour the liberated camps and in some cases, help bury the remains.

Leroy Lizard
12/29/2010, 09:42 PM
And the locals who weren't otherwise "aware" of what was happening in the camps, were compelled to tour the liberated camps and in some cases, help bury the remains.

I imagine those would be mostly Poles, not Germans.

picasso
12/30/2010, 01:25 AM
I think that open grave picture is insensitive and inappropriate and should be deleted.

C'mon man. That pic has been in every comprehensive Plains Indian book I've browsed through.

You should counter with a post of the English gentleman, dead, naked and slit from head to toe on the Kansas prairie.

Tulsa_Fireman
12/30/2010, 01:40 AM
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Coincidence!?

Leroy Lizard
12/30/2010, 05:21 AM
[Horn fan] That was Busch League for the U.S. to run up the score! Totally classless![/Horn fan]

Okla-homey
12/30/2010, 07:17 AM
I imagine those would be mostly Poles, not Germans.

There were camps in Germany. And for the record, at the beginning of World War II, nearly a quarter of pre-war Poland was annexed by Nazi Germany and placed under German civil administration. Thus, there were plenty of German civilians living around the "Polish" camps.

soonerchk
12/30/2010, 10:55 AM
I think that open grave picture is insensitive and inappropriate and should be deleted.

I think the actions leading up to the need for a mass open grave were significantly more inappropriate and insensitive.

AlboSooner
12/30/2010, 11:04 AM
Happy thanksgiving
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texaspokieokie
12/30/2010, 11:13 AM
side note; Muscogee Creek have headquarters in Okmulgee.

even have a small casino.

GDC
12/30/2010, 11:13 AM
The casino on Riverside in Tulsa is not small.

texaspokieokie
12/30/2010, 11:14 AM
the one in okmulgee is small.

Okla-homey
12/30/2010, 01:42 PM
the one in okmulgee is small.

The Muscogee (Creek) Nation also has smallish casinos in Bristow, Holdenville, Duck Creek, Eufaula, Checotah and Okemah in addition to their massive flagship casino in Tulsa and the one in Okmulgee. Just saying