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Jacie
12/22/2010, 11:41 AM
Just read on article on the 2010 season of the Cincinnati Bearcats, a team that Oklahoma beat by a mere two points. The 2007-2009 Cincy teams compiled the best W-L records in school history winning 10, 11, and 12 games respectively. Compared to the 2009 Cincy team, the 2010 offense did not lose a step. They were the best in the Big East on the offensive side of the ball this season. But instead of winning the conference and going to a bowl game, the bearcats finished 4-7, quite a fall from 12-0. Some things standout from the 2010 team versus the 2009 one. Unlike the 2009 team, the 2010 defense was terrible, their turnover margin was much worse from the previous year (five turnovers in OUr game) and oh yeah, they had a new coach as Brian Kelly cashed in his hard-won fame for the head spot at Notre Dame.

Kelly went undefeated and won a BCS bowl at Cincy. Short of winning the national championship he could not have reached any greater heights there. So he took the money and ran.

This is not what happened at another Big East school that had a similar experience. Over at Rutgers, coach Greg Schiano took that school's team to heights not previously seen when in his sixth year there the Scarlet Knights went 11-2. He was the flavor of the month among schools looking to hire a new head coach over the winter/spring of 2007, but Greg stayed put.

And what has he done lately? After three good (by Rutger's standards) seasons since 11-2, his team slipped to 4-8 in 2010, and a last place finish in the Big East. No one is calling Greg asking him to come coach their team this year.

The moral of the story? When you take a low-to-mid level team to the heights usually reserved for the big boys in Division 1, enjoy the moment with your kids then accept the best offer from a school that has something resembling a football tradition and get the hell outa dodge while you can.

rekamrettuB
12/22/2010, 11:44 AM
Kelly went undefeated and won a BCS bowl at Cincy. Short of winning the national championship he could not have reached any greater heights there. So he took the money and ran.



They were 0-2 in BCS games.

Other than that you are spot on. Strike while the iron is hot.

usaosooner
12/22/2010, 11:44 AM
+ Rep

See Skullet @WVA

olevetonahill
12/22/2010, 11:46 AM
So then Gumby is gone ?

KantoSooner
12/22/2010, 12:22 PM
It really depends on the individual. A lot of 'lesser' schools (in the sense of the prominence of their football programs) don't pay coaches as much but reward them by, for instance, making them tenured professors. Depending on your life goals and your evaluation of how likely you are to reach/enjoy the top flite of the coaching world, you could do a lot worse than having career stability in a beautiful small town somewhere in New Jersey...or Ohio...or Kentucky, etc.
Additionally, there are a lot of people, particularly in the Northeast, who feel that there is something fundamentally wrongheaded with the emphasis placed on football in the South and Southwest. They really deeply believe that the sport should remain true to its roots and be played as it was prior to WWII. I'm not trying to put words in Shiano's mouth, but it wouldn't surprise me if something along these lines didn't influence him to at least some degree.

SOONERJOSHUA
12/22/2010, 05:09 PM
Don't you just love when small schools beat a big school? Poor texas they lost to 6 small schools! :D

agoo758
12/22/2010, 05:15 PM
Not every coach wants to be rich and famous. I would hazard a guess that some enjoy a life with a small set of friends, and a reltively quiet life without Lou Holtz and Mark May banging on your door asking why you can't play in the 4th quarter or win on the road. :P

SoonerNutt
12/23/2010, 11:12 AM
Speaking of that, remember when this guys name was up for every job?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01Ne1rH6a997O/610x.jpg

Fresno lost 5 games this year.
lost 5 games in 2009
lost 6 games in 2008
lost 4 games in 2007, which was the last year they won a bowl game as well.
lost 8 games in 2006
lost 5 games in 2005
lost 3 games in 2004
lost 5 games in 2003
lost 5 games in 2002

Alot of times, when a small-school coach has some success and big-boys are calling, people thing "we have the big-name coach now, so we'll just dominate if he sticks around". But how many times does that happen when the guy does stick around?

That is why I don't get worked up about Boise St. If they don't get themselves in a real conference and get some real facilities and a real fan base, within 5 years, they'll be an afterthought. Their coach would be well-served to take the money at an elite school while he has the earning power.

Okie35
12/23/2010, 12:55 PM
They were 0-2 in BCS games.

Other than that you are spot on. Strike while the iron is hot.

0-1, under Kelly. He only coached the game against VT. He left for ND before the Sugar Bowl massacre against UF.

85sooners
12/23/2010, 06:31 PM
:eek:

rekamrettuB
12/23/2010, 07:16 PM
0-1, under Kelly. He only coached the game against VT. He left for ND before the Sugar Bowl massacre against UF.

True.