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Sooner95
12/18/2010, 08:53 PM
Cinn is 9-0 but they are not ranked and have played NO ONE. This could be a nice win for us, help build up some confidence as well.

Sooner95
12/18/2010, 08:54 PM
TV: ESPNU

Bearcat stats..

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2132/cincinnati-bearcats

birddog
12/18/2010, 09:10 PM
thanks, first game i've been able to see all year.

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:23 PM
Lets go Sooners!

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:24 PM
Sweeet Oop to Clark!!

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:27 PM
2-2. 15:37 to go. Uuuugly.

birddog
12/18/2010, 09:29 PM
uh, get it to the frosh. also carl blair reminds me of that pitt pg from a few years back. no clue to his name.

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 09:37 PM
if I was Cinncy I'd throw in the post every time...we look like guards guarding post guys...

we are scrapping though...just can't hit ANY buckets...

Sooner95
12/18/2010, 09:41 PM
We are battling...12-10.. I'm thinking we need to increase the tempo tho..

soonercastor
12/18/2010, 09:42 PM
this score is ridiculous

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:44 PM
Capel must be on national tv. He acts like he cares. ;)

19-10 Cincy. 9 to go. we look like gar-baage.

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:44 PM
Thompson for 3!!!

badger
12/18/2010, 09:46 PM
Hi guys. Watching game, but kind of tired so may not check in here much. Just know that NP and I are watching and care deeply about our mens team :)

Does Nick Thompson have a nickname?

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:49 PM
Hi guys. Watching game, but kind of tired so may not check in here much. Just know that NP and I are watching and care deeply about our mens team :)

Does Nick Thompson have a nickname?

El Flamo Blanco.

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:50 PM
Or "No D NT."

Blue
12/18/2010, 09:56 PM
25% shooting, bad transition D, buncha turnovers, ho hum.

But we're still in it! 26-17 Cincy 3:03 to go.

birddog
12/18/2010, 09:57 PM
ok, this is, uh i'm gonna tune out fer a bit. no es bueno

Sooner95
12/18/2010, 09:57 PM
We are so overmatched.. we have to knock down some 3's..

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 10:01 PM
the size difference alone...man we are passing like we are 5th graders...1 handed around the defender...TOO many hand-offs...

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 10:03 PM
we look sooo ragged...but at least we are still fighting..

these frickin announcers are IN LOVE with Cinncy..

Sooner95
12/18/2010, 10:04 PM
Cade is shooting at a covered basket..lol

Sooner95
12/18/2010, 10:07 PM
Well, only down 28-21 at the half. Considering we are playing like crap, I'll take it.

we have to knock 3's down, and get better in transition.

Blue
12/18/2010, 10:10 PM
these frickin announcers are IN LOVE with Cinncy..

We sure as hell didn't give them anything to talk about. I don't remember ever watching a worse OU basketball team. No offensive threats. Just meh.

badger
12/18/2010, 10:10 PM
Cade just made his last two shots... even though they were both free throws, perhaps this will start him on a shooting streak of some sort???

I dunno about the rest of you, but I didn't like Capel's technical there in the first half. We were close, then Cincy's lead really opened up after those two free points. Hope he doesn't get tossed.

Blue
12/18/2010, 10:11 PM
Y9myYc8Pn8o

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 10:20 PM
We sure as hell didn't give them anything to talk about. I don't remember ever watching a worse OU basketball team. No offensive threats. Just meh.

LOL...so true...so true...:D

Blue
12/18/2010, 10:27 PM
Pledger for 3, Cade and 1. There we go!

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 10:32 PM
still fighting..good lord...how many times are we going to make a straight line pass at the top of the key....and have it stolen...
wow...

Okrunman
12/18/2010, 10:42 PM
Still fighting. Come on sooners

thatmediadude
12/18/2010, 10:53 PM
I'm in my early 20's, but to all you long time OU Hoops fans, has there ever been a worse team at OU in recent memory?

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:00 PM
Back from down 12. 48-43 Cincy. 6:15.

Eielson
12/18/2010, 11:04 PM
Why would Cade shoot a 3 with 30 seconds on the shot clock if it isn't even that open?

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:04 PM
****. 54-44 4:51 to go.

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:06 PM
Cade can't hit the broad side of a barn tonight.

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:07 PM
Doh! Dribba-a-aling is hard!

Eielson
12/18/2010, 11:07 PM
I thought we could at least dribble without tripping over the ball. :(

Soonerjeepman
12/18/2010, 11:12 PM
I'm in my early 20's, but to all you long time OU Hoops fans, has there ever been a worse team at OU in recent memory?

umm...short answer NO...I'm 46 and with the exception of last yr...OU was always in Post season...had the longest streak...26 yrs...better than KU, UNC, Duke, Indiana...all of them...

we can't dribble, pass, rebound...it's one and down....

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:17 PM
Cinn is 10-0 but they are not ranked and have played NO ONE. This was another shi-ttay loss for us, helped build up some chimneys with all the bricks as well.

FIFY. :D

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:20 PM
Hey Gene Crapel!

xnbDThabAIs

:D

bigfatjerk
12/18/2010, 11:21 PM
There's very little to like about this program right now. They basically return everyone next year outside of Cade Davis and I don't know if that's a good thing. I don't think this coach has players that fit whatever he wants to do as a system.

badger
12/18/2010, 11:23 PM
(NP) This is the worst game of basketball I have ever watched in my life. What an embarrassment for the coaching staff. The kids are fighting, but they don't know what to do.

Holy crap Cincy is bad. But even with that and the refs handing us tons of freebies we still can't do anything. I would have rather watched a loop of that kid screaming GOOUGOOUGOOUGOOU at the camera for two hours.

I mad.

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:26 PM
66 -56 Cincy F. Yay.

Cincy didn't look good, we just totally out-sucked them.

Blue
12/18/2010, 11:28 PM
Sunshine pumpers got their work cut out for them.

87sooner
12/18/2010, 11:38 PM
66 -56 Cincy F. Yay.

Cincy didn't look good, we just totally out-sucked them.

that pretty much sums it up....
we're gonna out suck alot of teams this year...
we have the suckiest coach in america....

LoveDemSooners
12/18/2010, 11:49 PM
We will be lucky to get 10 wins this year

badger
12/18/2010, 11:57 PM
(back to badger) I still love our players, but I, too, like NP, am disappointed in lack of coaching. They were constantly running to the same corner on offense... which just so happened to be the corner our bench was at. Possibly looking for direction? I feel bad for them. I hope none of them get injured and are using their scholarships for education in the classroom if they're not getting education in practice and during games :(

RocketDad
12/19/2010, 12:44 AM
They play hard but there basketball IQ is really bad. Plus way too much LOFT.

bigfatjerk
12/19/2010, 12:45 AM
They play hard but there basketball IQ is really bad. Plus way too much LOFT.

They are so poorly coached. I think Capel may be our John Blake.

RocketDad
12/19/2010, 12:56 AM
Hard to coach LOFT though. At least the play hard, if they dogged it they would have been blitzed by 30 by a team that will not win many Big East games.

oumartin
12/19/2010, 10:41 AM
I'm starting to sour on one coach Capel.

I tried to watch the game last night but it was so uninspiring I just couldn't keep it there.

Soonerjeepman
12/19/2010, 11:58 AM
honestly there are about 3 - 5 kids I'd keep next year...Fitz, Clark and and Pledge..MAYBE Blair...or Newell....seriously...not going to single other guys out but the others really have no business being on a top 30 D1 school....at least not being starters...or relied on heavily...

not knocking their heart...just there is significant talent gap...

it will be a LONG year....

soonerbub
12/19/2010, 07:52 PM
http://www.hd-marine.com/CampSunshineLogo.jpg

We will be 9-6 & 1-0 in 2 weeks :cool:

We missed shots--**** happens.

birddog
12/19/2010, 08:55 PM
all the players look the same to me. a bunch of role players. is there anyone who can step up not named cade(as much as i love him, in a renzi stone kinda way).

Bourbon St Sooner
12/20/2010, 09:29 AM
Brutal. Just brutal.

This year, I don't blame anybody for not showing up to games. I mean, life's too short to torture yourself watching this group allegedly play basketball.

the_ouskull
12/20/2010, 09:58 AM
There's very little to like about this program right now. They basically return everyone next year outside of Cade Davis and I don't know if that's a good thing. I don't think this coach has players that fit whatever he wants to do as a system.

As soon as you figure out what it is, exactly, that he wants to do "as a system," would you please let him know as well? TIA.

the_ouskull

SoonerMarkVA
12/20/2010, 10:00 AM
Kind of sums up the season so far: the announcers were pimpin' Cade as the go-to guy, and his first several open looks from 3 were complete bricks. In simple terms, when Cade is your go-to guy, you don't have a go-to guy.

the_ouskull
12/20/2010, 10:18 AM
They are so poorly coached. I think Capel may be our John Blake.


We missed shots--**** happens.

These can't BOTH be true. This team misses shots because they take poor shots. They take poor shots because they're not getting the ball in a good position to score, and there's nobody on the team that can create their own offense. Teams like that are easy to defend at any level.

- Crowd the post. No easy baskets.
- Jam the passing lanes, especially at the top of the key. You have to give the players on the back side of your zone time to cover more ground.
- Run out on shooters; especially easy to do against OU since none of our "shooters" are a threat to drive to the basket off of a ball fake.

And, since we're also not a good rebounding team, teams are able to keep us off of the offensive glass with one or two defenders, which means that, when we jack up yet another too-deep ball late in the shot clock, we have to crash the offensive glass to try to get something out of the possession - meanwhile, one of their players leaked out in transition because they knew that we didn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the offensive rebound, and now they have a 3-2 break going the other way.

Sound about right?

All of that is on coaching. All of it. I mean, you do what your players are capable of doing, yes. But none of our players are capable of doing anything extraordinary, and they're all trying to excel in the same offense that Blake Griffin excelled in. Not changing your gameplan for your personnel is a classic coaching error.

I mean, at this point, what's stopping us from going full-court press on defense the entire game with Newell, Blair, Davis, Clark, and Fitzgerald on the floor? I mean, sure, they're not that athletic, but it beats getting crushed in the post on defense all night. Those baskets are gimmes. Getting the ball up the court every time against a press, and still having enough time to get a good shot up? Not (as much of) a gimme.

Then, on offense, Davis and Clark would run the offense from the high post with Fitz in the low post, and Newell (NO SHOOTING 3's!) and Blair looking to create through movement. Lots of motion, lots of hip screens - fewer turnovers. It's Princeton, but it's necessary to try to win with this team. Are they young? Yes. Is Blake supposed to be a senior? No. (And anybody who tries to use that as another pump of sunshine is delusional.. no WAY he was staying this long.)

Sure, we're missing some parts - namely a point guard, a 2, and a 5; the parts that left - but I'll accept that. I'll lose some bad seeds for a good patch to grow. But, where's the good? I'm not seeing any improvement out of this team. The "offense" has gotten less consistent. Even more maddening when you consider that most of the team shoots a decent percentage from the field. They're smart enough to take good shots... most of the time; but more often, even, than that, they're not in a position to take a good shot because the "offense" isn't getting anybody open - EVER, and because they're good, solid, coach-fearin' players, and continue to (try to) run the offense loyally, they usually don't learn that nobody's coming open until late in the shot clock.

That's on coaching.

the_ouskull

bigfatjerk
12/20/2010, 11:41 AM
I wish I could disagree with anything you just posted, but I really can't. I would like to see us just go with the 3 freshman lineup, try a constant full court press and go more with a Princeton style offense like you said. But I don't see Capel doing that. He's never shown a sign of having a real offense even with Blake. It was easy to run an offense with Blake because all we did was give it to him and he would open it up for the rest of the team. Either passing it to an open Taylor for an easy lay in. Or passing it out for a 3 which we did an easy job of hitting or he would overpower double teams and score 20 a game. It's pretty easy to coach when you have an absolute freak like Blake.

NormanPride
12/20/2010, 11:41 AM
So are the player rotations. We started off operating fairly well on offense mostly due to Nick and Fitz playing off each other. Now Nick never sees the floor and we're supposed to make Cade and Cameron work the offense and they're constantly turning it over. Get them off the damn floor.

...sooner
12/20/2010, 12:28 PM
So are the player rotations. We started off operating fairly well on offense mostly due to Nick and Fitz playing off each other. Now Nick never sees the floor and we're supposed to make Cade and Cameron work the offense and they're constantly turning it over. Get them off the damn floor.

this. the rotation was stupid! i want to see neal in there & washington off the bench ya hes not really an offensive threat but he can play some D get some blocks & rebound hes the tallest guy we have!! & thompson had a 3 pointer & 3 rebounds in 6 minutes... he coulda had a hot hand with cade missing everything.

bigfatjerk
12/20/2010, 12:38 PM
Neal and Washington are the same height(6-7)

The tallest player we have is Nick Thompson

...sooner
12/20/2010, 04:35 PM
Neal and Washington are the same height(6-7)

The tallest player we have is Nick Thompson

my fault the book at the all college classic listed him at 6'10 i think.. maybe i just made it up. who knows. ha

the_ouskull
12/20/2010, 06:01 PM
Figure it out before pressing "Post Reply" and things'll go more smoothly for you around here, I promise. Good luck.

the_ouskull