For those of you who don't think we are over-lawyered in this country...

[batonrougesooner]

Just google "Darvocet Lawsuit"

The drug was pulled Friday by the FDA.

[Howzit]

Is there anyone besides lawyers that doesn't think we are over-lawyered in this country?

[saucysoonergal]

Shut up you two. No CDIAB for either of you louses. :(

[DIB]

Is there anyone besides lawyers that doesn't think we are over-lawyered in this country?

Probably someone that needed a lawyer to keep them out of jail, protect their rights, or assert their rights against an individual/company.

People are happy to rip on lawyers...until they need one.

[saucysoonergal]

What DIB said, have some CDIAB!

[texaspokieokie]

you know we're "over-lawered" when the number of shysters is greater than the number of ambulances.

[3rdgensooner]

Probably someone that needed a lawyer to keep them out of jail, protect their rights, or assert their rights against an individual/company.

People are happy to rip on lawyers...until they need one.Yep

[Howzit]

Probably someone that needed a lawyer to keep them out of jail, protect their rights, or assert their rights against an individual/company.

People are happy to rip on lawyers...until they need one.

Over-lawyered =! No-lawyered.

Strike a nerve?

;)

[saucysoonergal]

Junice died from squirrel rabies. Lawsuit to follow.

[yermom]

so what exactly is wrong with pulling a drug that has killed people?

i'm kinda surprised anyone still takes acetaminophen anyway...

[soonercruiser]

Probably someone that needed a lawyer to keep them out of jail, protect their rights, or assert their rights against an individual/company.

People are happy to rip on lawyers...until they need one.

Yes. If they would just stop at benefitting society, rather than chasing ambulences, and trying to make themselves rick quick with friv law suits.

Actually, lawyers should be taxed at the 90% rate.

[tommieharris91]

You just keep hatin on the evil, socialist, communist, muslim, and atheist US Constitution.

I get the feeling that a lot of people who will bash lawyers in this thread are the same ones who have attacked the TSA.

[soonercruiser]

so what exactly is wrong with pulling a drug that has killed people?

i'm kinda surprised anyone still takes acetaminophen anyway...

Flawed reasoning in this case!
Tylenol is the #1 suicide drug for teenagers.
So, let's pull Tylenol off the market. It must be a bad drug!
:O

[Howzit]

Junice died from squirrel rabies.

You take that back.

[saucysoonergal]

Cruiser needs a good butt-kicking, any takers?

[proud gonzo]

Flawed reasoning in this case!
Tylenol is the #1 suicide drug for teenagers.
So, let's pull Tylenol off the market. It must be a bad drug!
:O
Right, teenagers who take Tylenol to commit suicide. Darvocet, on the other hand, can cause heart arrhythmia in healthy, non-suicidal patients who take it as prescribed.

[Veritas]

We've got a lot of litigious retards in this country. Don't blame the lawyers satisfying demand, blame the jackasses that are creating it.

[Scott D]

It's simple..do we have too many lawyers? yes
Do we have too many politicians? yes
Do we have too many "preachers/reverends"? yes
Do we have too many people? yes

Need I continue?

[NormanPride]

Yeah, actually. I'd like to hear more.

[STUpendOUs]

I don't know about the country...but these message boards are definitely "Over Lawyered"

my guess is 1 in 3

[Scott D]

Yeah, actually. I'd like to hear more.

Does this message board have too many Packer fans? yes
Does this board have too many Cowgirl fans? yes
Are most politicians *********s? yes
Are there a lot of lawyers that are *********s? yes
Is it a coincidence that lawyers love becoming politicians? no.

[saucysoonergal]

Is it a coincidence that lawyers love becoming politicians? no.

Unfortunately this does not apply in Oklahoma.

[yermom]

Flawed reasoning in this case!
Tylenol is the #1 suicide drug for teenagers.
So, let's pull Tylenol off the market. It must be a bad drug!
:O

which reasoning is that?

prolonged use of what probably doesn't seem like too much acetaminophen (which also happens to be in Darvocet) causes liver damage, and death

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Probably someone that needed a lawyer to keep them out of jail, protect their rights, or assert their rights against an individual/company.

People are happy to rip on lawyers...until they need one.

There are a few things that we need lawyers for. The professional should be ashamed of the ambulance chasers and in my opinion, ban advertizing again. Then, they also need to shut down law barn admits to keep the lawyers from being ambulance chasers and politicians. Last thing we need is a John Edwards in politics (IMO)...Singlehanded helped destroy OBGYN practices...

[OhU1]

Admission standards to law school should be tightened and the bar exam should be tougher to pass. While we're at it grading standards in high school, college and professional schools should be returned to a bell curve type distribution. No more than 10 -15% of the class should earn an "A". The "F" should be rewarded freely instead of allowing people to pass through the system. Get rid of the bottom feeders!

[virginiasooner]

My question is -- what took the lawyers so long to ban this drug? I had a bad reaction to Darvon 25 years ago. I had an impacted wisdom tooth, and that was the painkiller they gave me. Hallucinations aren't fun. I also had a cousin take Darvon as a pain killer (after back surgery), and he saw razor blades and needles. All I saw was birds flying around my bedroom.

[Leroy Lizard]

GM0rbcmH7lo

[GrapevineSooner]

Does this board have too many Cowgirl fans? yes


No. No it doesn't :D

[KABOOKIE]

Can coffee be too hot??? Yes.

[batonrougesooner]

I just think it's interesting that it's a 50 year old drug, made mainly by generics companies, and now that it's pulled, the class action websites spring up like weeds.

I think the fact that a 50 year old drug being pulled by the FDA over safety issues and the now nearly unlimited potential tort claims by people who have taken the drug are two seperate issues.

According to one source, out of the 120 million prescriptions of Darvon written in the U.S. since 2005, it has been blamed in 1000-2000 deaths. Not that any death on an individual level is acceptable, but that seems like a pretty good ratio. As some have mentioned, look at tylenol. It would never make it through FDA approval today. It's safety profile is relatively too poor.

If it's felt to be a bad drug, take it off. I don't think it's that useful anyway. I just think it's funny how many are now lining up to feed at the mass tort trough.

[Leroy Lizard]

My question is -- what took the lawyers so long to ban this drug? I had a bad reaction to Darvon 25 years ago. I had an impacted wisdom tooth, and that was the painkiller they gave me. Hallucinations aren't fun. I also had a cousin take Darvon as a pain killer (after back surgery), and he saw razor blades and needles. All I saw was birds flying around my bedroom.

Some people will steal a lot of stuff to afford such experiences.

[Oldnslo]

The reason I went to law school was that I wanted to help people. That, by the way, is the reason for most people to go to law school.

[Blue]

You just keep hatin on the evil, socialist, communist, muslim, and atheist US Constitution.

I get the feeling that a lot of people who will bash lawyers in this thread are the same ones who have attacked the TSA.

Its amazing to me that people would defend what the TSA is doing after watching those videos of little kids being stripsearched.

And they defend every law and every decision the govt makes. It's like they're paid to be here or something.

[SCOUT]

Wait, I have been taking Darvocet for my shoulder. I am guessing I shouldn't get the refill?

[batonrougesooner]

Wait, I have been taking Darvocet for my shoulder. I am guessing I shouldn't get the refill?

You won't be able to get the refill.

[My Opinion Matters]

You mean taking 4000 mg of tylenol daily is bad for me? Really?

[Crucifax Autumn]

I bet the guys on the Darvocet side have lawyers too.

[batonrougesooner]

The reason I went to law school was that I wanted to help people. That, by the way, is the reason for most people to go to law school.

And FWIW I know and work with several lawyers, each ethical, knowledgeable, and honest.

To me it's more about the "tort industry" that is so blatantly more about hustling money than it ever was about "helping" anybody.

[tommieharris91]

And they defend every law and every decision the govt makes. It's like they're paid to be here or something.

It's probably because the lawyers are.

BTW, my point was that I was expecting that a lot of people are trying to have their cake and eat it too. So far, not too bad.

[Scott D]

you know who else wanted his cake and be able to eat it too.......yep, hitler.

[Oldnslo]

And FWIW I know and work with several lawyers, each ethical, knowledgeable, and honest.

To me it's more about the "tort industry" that is so blatantly more about hustling money than it ever was about "helping" anybody.

That "tort industry" thing? I'm part of it.

Sure, I spend about 90% of my time defending folks from lawsuits being brought as a result of car accidents and dog bites, but that other 10% of the time I'm suing folks who did wrong (or, more realistically, the insurance carrier who is lowballing me and my client) or the insurance company that has left their insured out in the cold in bad faith.

Products liability cases are easy to poke fun at, but if you don't have them, you end up with the Ford Pinto. Ford KNEW it would blow up, but figured the lawsuits would be more expensive than re-engineering a the gas tank!

The ONLY thing a corporation exists to do is return value to its owner. Sometimes, the short-term is valued more than the long. So, you can't trust Corporate America to always look after the interests of the consumer.

Safeguards against frivolous product liability suits? How about their incredible expense? That's a high hurdle to begin with.

[Frozen Sooner]

Its amazing to me that people would defend what the TSA is doing after watching those videos of little kids being stripsearched.

And they defend every law and every decision the govt makes. It's like they're paid to be here or something.

I just charged Jason $10.

[Frozen Sooner]

The reason I went to law school was that I wanted to help people. That, by the way, is the reason for most people to go to law school.

I went to law school because I figured it'd be a step up from being a banker. :D

[soonercruiser]

which reasoning is that?

prolonged use of what probably doesn't seem like too much acetaminophen (which also happens to be in Darvocet) causes liver damage, and death

Just listen closely to the drug commercials on TV.
If you really believed what they are sayin' (especially ED meds), you'd never take the drug....
Unless you had a good lawyer!

By the way (med backgroiund here), it's not "prolonged use" of Tylenol.
It's overdose causing kindey failure (teeenagers).

Same reason the drug companies discontinued their testing and cut the dosage of The Pill into 1/10 - side effects like increased cancer.

[soonercruiser]

There are a few things that we need lawyers for. The professional should be ashamed of the ambulance chasers and in my opinion, ban advertizing again. Then, they also need to shut down law barn admits to keep the lawyers from being ambulance chasers and politicians. Last thing we need is a John Edwards in politics (IMO)...Singlehanded helped destroy OBGYN practices...

What's the numbers on the evil Edwards??
I heard something like he made $10 Million from one OB-GYN case.

[soonercruiser]

That "tort industry" thing? I'm part of it.

Sure, I spend about 90% of my time defending folks from lawsuits being brought as a result of car accidents and dog bites, but that other 10% of the time I'm suing folks who did wrong (or, more realistically, the insurance carrier who is lowballing me and my client) or the insurance company that has left their insured out in the cold in bad faith.

Products liability cases are easy to poke fun at, but if you don't have them, you end up with the Ford Pinto. Ford KNEW it would blow up, but figured the lawsuits would be more expensive than re-engineering a the gas tank!

The ONLY thing a corporation exists to do is return value to its owner. Sometimes, the short-term is valued more than the long. So, you can't trust Corporate America to always look after the interests of the consumer.

Safeguards against frivolous product liability suits? How about their incredible expense? That's a high hurdle to begin with.


How much are your hourly fees?

[Blue]

I just charged Jason $10.

Heh. Jason is just as bad as you. Negligent beyond belief. Too many worries in life to worry about Liberty and other foolish matters. ;)

[yermom]

Just listen closely to the drug commercials on TV.
If you really believed what they are sayin' (especially ED meds), you'd never take the drug....
Unless you had a good lawyer!

By the way (med backgroiund here), it's not "prolonged use" of Tylenol.
It's overdose causing kindey failure (teeenagers).

Same reason the drug companies discontinued their testing and cut the dosage of The Pill into 1/10 - side effects like increased cancer.

(i don't have a med backgroiund, but i know the difference between the liver and kidneys)

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/820200-overview


Hepatotoxicity associated with acetaminophen misuse and overdose is well recognized.

[Frozen Sooner]

Heh. Jason is just as bad as you. Negligent beyond belief. Too many worries in life to worry about Liberty and other foolish matters. ;)

Hey, if you want to pay me to be worried about your liberty, feel free. :D

Well, not yet. In about 23 months.

[SCOUT]

Hey, if you want to pay me to be worried about your liberty, feel free. :D

Well, not yet. In about 23 months.

Liberty was pretty clearly defined back in the 1700's and shouldn't need additional legal defense.

:D

[tommieharris91]

you know who else wanted his cake and be able to eat it too.......yep, marie antoinette.

fify

[Blue]

Check out all the "rational" great Americans who approve of this.

skkCpnCm7iM

[Frozen Sooner]

Liberty was pretty clearly defined back in the 1700's and shouldn't need additional legal defense.

:D

The founders knew that not all of the rights we enjoy were codified in the document as written. They even said so explicitly.

Heck, the document as written didn't even allow the slave trade to be outlawed for a couple of decades. That's a pretty bad job of defining liberty if you ask me.

[Blue]

Did you see the video above you Frozen? That's what we're talking about. How can you defend that?

[Frozen Sooner]

Er, no. That's what YOU'RE talking about. Everyone else in this thread is talking about Darvocet or whatever being taken off the market.

When have I defended it, by the way? I don't think it rises to the level of a constitutional violation, but hey, I fully support your right to be outraged about it, and I'll watch with interest if you decide to retain counsel and go for a Bivens claim.

Don't want your kid searched? Put 'em through the scanner. Don't want to go through the scanner? Don't fly. There's a possible constitutional claim in there, but I don't think it's a winner. Doesn't mean I like the practice or I think it's particularly effective. There's plenty of things out there I don't really like that don't offend the Constitution, though. I'm not a big fan of the jackass that drives down Jack Warner with the glasspacks at 2am, for example.

[Blue]

Er, no. That's what YOU'RE talking about. Everyone else in this thread is talking about Darvocet or whatever being taken off the market.

When have I defended it, by the way? I don't think it rises to the level of a constitutional violation, but hey, I fully support your right to be outraged about it, and I'll watch with interest if you decide to retain counsel and go for a Bivens claim.

Don't want your kid searched? Put 'em through the scanner. Don't want to go through the scanner? Don't fly. There's a possible constitutional claim in there, but I don't think it's a winner. Doesn't mean I like the practice or I think it's particularly effective. There's plenty of things out there I don't really like that don't offend the Constitution, though. I'm not a big fan of the jackass that drives down Jack Warner with the glasspacks at 2am, for example.
nm

[yermom]

do you have a constitutional right to fly?

[My Opinion Matters]

I'm guessing most of this "outrage" stems from the fact that it is occuring under the watch of current Mooslem-loving, brown-skinned, double secret terrorist president.

Our founding fathers, which were all white, btw, and not from Kenya, got to fly commercially without the hassle of minor inconvenience, and that's the way it should be for everyone still. As long as they're white.

Run-on sentence FTW.

[Frozen Sooner]

Unbelievable. I'm sure you're a decent fellow, but you have no spine.

None of you seem to.

Really? Because what are YOU doing other than just bitching on the internet? That's some pretty balls-out resistance there.

[saucysoonergal]

Defenders of the Constitution have no spine? There are a lot a jack wagon dill holes about, don't you think?

[KABOOKIE]

Misuse and overdose of a drug will cause bad things that will hurt people! You don't say??? Yeah and spilling hot coffee on your lap will burn the **** out of you too. Sue bitches!!!!

[saucysoonergal]

When said company heats coffee to such levels to extact even more coffee from the grounds and then serves said scalding coffee through a drive thru window, they are aware of the dangers involved. The verdict was the equivalent of one days coffee sales and then the Judge reduced it.

You people sure beat that drum a lot even though it happened over a decade ago. Nothing since then to raise your ire? :rolleyes:

[pphilfran]

At the current time I don't think they were forced to pull the drug.... I would imagine that if they continue to produce they will be flooded with even more lawsuits....

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainArthritis/painkillers-darvon-darvocet-coming-off-us-market/story?id=12194165

The FDA called upon the pharmaceutical companies to stop making propoxyphene (PPX) based upon a clinical trial in which electrocardiograms demonstrated that the drug altered the heart's electrical activity, potentially causing serious or life-threatening arrhythmias.

The manufacturer, Xanodyne Pharmaceuticals Inc. of Newport, Ky., agreed to withdraw the two brand-name drugs. The agency now is asking manufacturers of generic propoxyphene to do the same.

As part of Friday's announcement, the FDA recommended that doctors stop prescribing the medication, advise patients using it to stop taking it and discuss other ways to manage pain, and be aware of the potential cardiac effects. Any patient who experiences an abnormal heart rate or heart rhythm, dizziness, lightheadedness, heart palpitations or fainting is advised to contact a doctor immediately.

[Howzit]

I just got a check for a class action lawsuit that was filed against an oil well that my granddad turned over to me years ago. I don't know much about the lawsuit itself, but the check was in the amount of $.01. I **** you not.

The lawyers probably made a bundle while the folks they were 'representing' got their fair share.

[Oldnslo]

How much are your hourly fees?

Depends on what I'm doing, and for whom. Insurance defense work is $125/hr unless it's bad faith defense, then it's $175/hr.

[The]

This thread = http://i.imgur.com/buJhA.jpg

[saucysoonergal]

This thread = happy dog face?

[The]

This thread = happy dog face?

That dog looks happy to you?

[saucysoonergal]

The one on the left or the right? The one on the right looks kind of happy.

[The]

The one on the left or the right? The one on the right looks kind of happy.

My right or yours?

[saucysoonergal]

Sssshhh, just let me lead.

[The]

Sssshhh, just let me lead.

I'm terrible at backgammon.

[Leroy Lizard]

Products liability cases are easy to poke fun at, but if you don't have them, you end up with the Ford Pinto.


But we ended up with the Ford Pinto.

[The]

But we ended up with the Ford Pinto.

You own a Ford Pinto?

[saucysoonergal]

I thought he drove a Gremlin?

[Oldnslo]

But we ended up with the Ford Pinto.

not after the case.

[Leroy Lizard]

The reason I went to law school was that I wanted to help people. That, by the way, is the reason for most people to go to law school.

Serious question: If helping people is really what you're all about, why do so many in your profession go out of their way to make it look like money is what it's all about?

For example, I have heard many times stated in here that frivolous laws and lawsuits are a good thing because they keep lawyers employed. I realize that the statement is made with tongue in cheek, but why make it? I don't hear too many doctors talking like that. Firefighters don't talk like that.

Frankly, I don't buy it. Yes, I have acquired the need for a lawyer at times. Yes, he has helped me. But he truly only had one concern: Lifting as much money out of my pockets as he could. And while my doctor also charges me good money, he doesn't charge me to answer my emails inquiring about my health. (However, my lawyer charged me for answering my email about whether his office had received the documents he requested. But of course he is only in it to help me. Yeah, sure.)

[Leroy Lizard]

You own a Ford Pinto?

Since I used the pronoun "we," so did you.

[The]

Since I used the pronoun "we," so did you.

No ****? I wanna drive it. Now.

[Leroy Lizard]

No ****? I wanna drive it. Now.

We want you to drive it too.

[OnlyOneOklahoma]

Misuse and overdose of a drug will cause bad things that will hurt people! You don't say??? Yeah and spilling hot coffee on your lap will burn the **** out of you too. Sue bitches!!!!

you do realize the coffee was heated to such high temperatures that the woman's labia fused to her thigh, right? That incident and all the previous complaints led the judge to believe that McDonald's willingly sold a dangerous product. Much like Ford and the under 2000 plan with the Pinto. I suppose in your mind it was not Ford's fault that people bought cars that happen to explode?

[soonercruiser]

Depends on what I'm doing, and for whom. Insurance defense work is $125/hr unless it's bad faith defense, then it's $175/hr.

You ARE "reasonable", then.
Hat's off!

[saucysoonergal]

Serious question: If helping people is really what you're all about, why do so many in your profession go out of their way to make it look like money is what it's all about?

For example, I have heard many times stated in here that frivolous laws and lawsuits are a good thing because they keep lawyers employed. I realize that the statement is made with tongue in cheek, but why make it? I don't hear too many doctors talking like that. Firefighters don't talk like that.

Frankly, I don't buy it. Yes, I have acquired the need for a lawyer at times. Yes, he has helped me. But he truly only had one concern: Lifting as much money out of my pockets as he could. And while my doctor also charges me good money, he doesn't charge me to answer my emails inquiring about my health. (However, my lawyer charged me for answering my email about whether his office had received the documents he requested. But of course he is only in it to help me. Yeah, sure.)

Depends on the Lawyer. Some just don't like to talk to some clients and will bill them, hmmmm, considering who you are, I can see why you were charged.

[soonercruiser]

This thread = http://i.imgur.com/buJhA.jpg

NO TEETH in the forum!!??
I can fix that.
:P

[Leroy Lizard]

you do realize the coffee was heated to such high temperatures that the woman's labia fused to her thigh, right? That incident and all the previous complaints led the judge to believe that McDonald's willingly sold a dangerous product. Much like Ford and the under 2000 plan with the Pinto. I suppose in your mind it was not Ford's fault that people bought cars that happen to explode?

I think the dangers of the Ford Pinto were totally overblown and serves as an example of a company getting screwed by the court system.

Unlike what we have been told, courts do not prevent car companies from evaluating human costs versus manufacturing costs, they actually encourage it. Read about Barker v Lull Engineering on page 1037.

http://www.pointoflaw.com/articles/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pinto_Case.pdf

[The]

We want you to drive it too.

Give me the keys. Imma take it to title loans and unload that bad boy.

[proud gonzo]

Unbelievable. I'm sure you're a decent fellow, but you have no spine.

None of you seem to.

This in no way contributes to the discussion at hand. Why don't you stick to the topic of the thread and take your insults and lawyer-bashing somewhere else?

[Oldnslo]

Serious question: If helping people is really what you're all about, why do so many in your profession go out of their way to make it look like money is what it's all about?

For example, I have heard many times stated in here that frivolous laws and lawsuits are a good thing because they keep lawyers employed. I realize that the statement is made with tongue in cheek, but why make it? I don't hear too many doctors talking like that. Firefighters don't talk like that.

Frankly, I don't buy it. Yes, I have acquired the need for a lawyer at times. Yes, he has helped me. But he truly only had one concern: Lifting as much money out of my pockets as he could. And while my doctor also charges me good money, he doesn't charge me to answer my emails inquiring about my health. (However, my lawyer charged me for answering my email about whether his office had received the documents he requested. But of course he is only in it to help me. Yeah, sure.)
Serious answer: When did I say it's all I'm about? I'm not Mother Theresa by a long shot. I fight for a living, against people who are pretty damn clever and hardworking, and my success comes at the cost of their failure.

I bill my billion-dollar insurance company clients for every minute I spend working on their stuff. I have saved and will save them more than I've billed or will bill. Forever. As for plain old folks? I usually end up cutting my take of the case, if nothing else, just give them a reason to refer friends to me.

You know I give away about 100 hours of my time a year away, right? I've never totaled it up, but an hour a week on the radio, plus other "Attorney Adam" stuff... 100 hours easy. That being said, your first responsibility in having a law office is staying open. You could be Atticus Finch and Clarence Darrow, all rolled into one, but if you can't pay your bills, you're going to be selling ties or insurance, and your legal skills will be for naught.

By the way, do you give away the skill that you otherwise feed your family with?

Have you ever heard doctors talk about who is in their ER's? Have you heard chiropractors talk about how they're setting up their practices? Have you heard about insurance executives talk about risks? How about sales managers giving a pep talk to the troops? Dude, it's about the money. Even with the non-profit companies we represent, they can't do anything without money.

"Frivolous lawsuit" isn't a term used by lawyers who practice law. In my 21 years of practice, the only "frivolous" suits I've seen were from pro se litigants, mostly IFP petitions from prisoners. On the other hand, that Gideon fellow sure was onto something.

[My Opinion Matters]

Serious answer: When did I say it's all I'm about? I'm not Mother Theresa by a long shot. I fight for a living, against people who are pretty damn clever and hardworking, and my success comes at the cost of their failure.

I bill my billion-dollar insurance company clients for every minute I spend working on their stuff. I have saved and will save them more than I've billed or will bill. Forever. As for plain old folks? I usually end up cutting my take of the case, if nothing else, just give them a reason to refer friends to me.

You know I give away about 100 hours of my time a year away, right? I've never totaled it up, but an hour a week on the radio, plus other "Attorney Adam" stuff... 100 hours easy. That being said, your first responsibility in having a law office is staying open. You could be Atticus Finch and Clarence Darrow, all rolled into one, but if you can't pay your bills, you're going to be selling ties or insurance, and your legal skills will be for naught.

By the way, do you give away the skill that you otherwise feed your family with?

Have you ever heard doctors talk about who is in their ER's? Have you heard chiropractors talk about how they're setting up their practices? Have you heard about insurance executives talk about risks? How about sales managers giving a pep talk to the troops? Dude, it's about the money. Even with the non-profit companies we represent, they can't do anything without money.

"Frivolous lawsuit" isn't a term used by lawyers who practice law. In my 21 years of practice, the only "frivolous" suits I've seen were from pro se litigants, mostly IFP petitions from prisoners. On the other hand, that Gideon fellow sure was onto something.

Great post, but it would have been much easier and more effective to just say "shut up, Leroy".

[KABOOKIE]

When said company heats coffee to such levels to extact even more coffee from the grounds and then serves said scalding coffee through a drive thru window, they are aware of the dangers involved. The verdict was the equivalent of one days coffee sales and then the Judge reduced it.

You people sure beat that drum a lot even though it happened over a decade ago. Nothing since then to raise your ire? :rolleyes:

Oh Company XYZ makes lots of money so that makes it OK to sue and collect damages because overall it doesn't hurt them financially.

Never mind the fact the dumb broad poured the coffee in her lap. Sometimes people have to take personal responsibility. If McD's had dumped the coffee in her lap then go ahead sue. Yeah but the hotter than hot argument is complete and utter lawyerese boolshat.

Typical.

Ever try getting a sue happy lawyer to take on a case where the sued has little to no financial worth? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[KABOOKIE]

I just got a check for a class action lawsuit that was filed against an oil well that my granddad turned over to me years ago. I don't know much about the lawsuit itself, but the check was in the amount of $.01. I **** you not.

The lawyers probably made a bundle while the folks they were 'representing' got their fair share.

Should have got a better lawyer. They would have found an internal company memo that said they pumped the oil out of the well faster than fast. Then you guys would have been awarded $10,000,000,000,000.00. One day's oil profit from Exxon.

Then **** what do I know. After legal fees, taxes, legal fees for a tax attorney, taxes on the attorney, tax fees for the legals and court cost your net monetary award would have been .02.

[saucysoonergal]

Oh Company XYZ makes lots of money so that makes it OK to sue and collect damages because overall it doesn't hurt them financially.

Never mind the fact the dumb broad poured the coffee in her lap. Sometimes people have to take personal responsibility. If McD's had dumped the coffee in her lap then go ahead sue. Yeah but the hotter than hot argument is complete and utter lawyerese boolshat.

Typical.

Ever try getting a sue happy lawyer to take on a case where the sued has little to no financial worth? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Could you point to a case from this century flyboy? sheesh. You are as dense as a block of granite.

I know you hate me and all, but take a look at yourself. I bet you make your mama proud.

[DIB]

Sounds like KABOOKIE got screwed over by a divorce attorney. Is that why you hate lawyers?

[The]

Sounds like KABOOKIE got screwed over by a divorce attorney. Is that why you hate lawyers?

I once screwed a divorce attorney, does that count?

[saucysoonergal]

I once screwed a divorce attorney, does that count?

Is that why you are a lawyer lubbin' liberal a hole?

[DIB]

I once screwed a divorce attorney, does that count?

Was s/he hot?

[The]

Is that why you are a lawyer lubbin' liberal a hole?

Ayuh.


Was s/he hot?

Ayuh.

[KABOOKIE]

Could you point to a case from this century flyboy? sheesh. You are as dense as a block of granite.

I know you hate me and all, but take a look at yourself. I bet you make your mama proud.

Dense as a block of granite? Well, that's still smarter than the average attorney.

I don't hate you. You're just a bitter pill that no one gets a long with. Take a good look at yourself and don't get all sue happy when that mirror cracks.

[DIB]

Ayuh.



Ayuh.



Did you habeas her corpus?

[saucysoonergal]

Kabookie, you are the only miserable fellow I don't get along with. Have a nice day, but I know you won't, try anyway.

[KABOOKIE]

Kabookie, you are the only miserable fellow I don't get along with. Have a nice day, but I know you won't, try anyway.

Wait I am the only miserable fellow you don't get along with? Gotta be sure here cause we're dealing with a lawyer trained in half-truths and emotional appeals. What about plain old fellows? Mello fellows? Feminine fellows? Golden Retriever fellows?

[The]

This thread has ceased being entertaining.

I declare Last Rights.

[saucysoonergal]

The Golden Retriever fellow and I are golden, thanks for asking. Its just you.

[KABOOKIE]

Mello fellows?

[DIB]

Kabookie, do you always ruin threads or just ones with saucy? I'm kinda new hear and I'm trying to learn.

[The]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/ThisThreadSucks_B.jpg

[stoops the eternal pimp]

be nice to kabookie...he is hawt

[The]

be nice to kabookie...he is hawt

Proof is required.

[KABOOKIE]

be nice to kabookie...he is hawt

Love is blind they say.

[Okla-homey]

Ever try getting a sue happy lawyer to take on a case where the sued has little to no financial worth?

What, in the name of all that's holy, would be the point of that? Oh, I bet you're one of those potential clients who says, "it's not about the money.":rolleyes:

[soonerscuba]

Call me when bitching about professional services doesn't sound like little more than thinly veiled resentment. Until then, market efficiency suggest people generally make what they deserve, and in the case of doctors, lawyers, accountants, management consultants, etc. it's more than the guy who owns the lawn mowing service. The ironic part is that chances are, the guy with the lawn mowing service is probably happier, as those jobs come with their own stresses that are ultimately meaningless and serve at the behest of clients, which is it's own can of worms.

[1890MilesToNorman]

Can i sew Ann Wheezer Brusch for skrewing op my spelting and **** on this hear broad??

[Leroy Lizard]

Call me when bitching about professional services doesn't sound like little more than thinly veiled resentment.

And then there's thin-skinned whining about people bitching about your profession.