Lingerie Football League in OKC?

[SoonerPr8r]

Nope. Mick Cornet c**k blocks the city.

OKLAHOMA CITY – Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett confirmed Thursday that he does not plan to allow a Lingerie Football League team to come to the city.

The LFL announced Tuesday that Oklahoma City would be one of four cities to receive an expansion team in 2011. Those expansion franchises would have expanded the league to 14 teams.

Cornett has the power to grant or deny a team’s access to a public arena for its games, and he said he will not allow that access to any Lingerie Football League team.

He acknowledged that there are other avenues the league could try, but that he will not allow them to play at the Cox Convention Center or Oklahoma City Arena. He added that bringing the controversial league to the area would cause unnecessary issues.

“There are too many problems to list,” Cornett said. “There are so many that I don’t want to gravitate to just one.”

Mitchell S. Mortaza, the Chairman for the LFL, released the following statement Thursday evening in response to Mayor Cornett’s decision:

"It is unfortunate that one individual can dictate what an entire city can deem as entertainment or not. Apparently Mayor Cornett wants to take away the basic freedom of individuals to chose to attend a sporting event or not. Has Mayor Cornett actually been to an LFL game or watched a game on MTV2? My guess is no. He does not understand that LFL football is played by educated former college athletes that come from all walks of life which include doctors, lawyers, teachers, military personnel etc. Nor does Mayor Cornett understand the revenue and jobs LFL football coming into town would represent, but perhaps Oklahoma City does not need more jobs or revenue.

Oklahomans should be provided the opportunity to chose for themselves and not dictated to. I thought our plans were for expansion into Oklahoma City, not North Korea."
http://okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=29801

[jumperstop]

Damn it, I thought it was a for sure deal. I don't see why people are getting pissed. There's already strip clubs everywhere and those are far worse. If you feel it's bad for the kids, don't let them go...it's that simple.

[soonercastor]

:pop:

[jmillerfan]

pretty soon all the leagues will be considered the "Lingerie League" with all these rules. However I have seen some of these games and they do hit pretty hard.

[OUthunder]

Mick is a mood killer and he must like schlongs

[StoopTroup]

Then Tulsa still >OKC. :D

[Soonermagik]

I agree with the strip club analogy. People will go to what interests them. To try to control morality is absurd. If it's not a good family environment then don't take your family there.

[Mad Dog Madsen]

Then Tulsa still >OKC. :D

Yeah, send them to Tulsa!!!

[SoonerLB]

Puritanical bastage! I hate it when the Taliban runs things. ;)

[C&CDean]

For the life of me I can't fathom why someone would want to watch this ****. There's nekkid girls everywhere you look already. Why the hell would you want to see them play football in their drawers?

Then again, I think people who frequent strip clubs are major-league losers who couldn't get laid if they had a 10" dick and looked like Tom Selleck.

[rekamrettuB]

Then again, I think people who frequent strip clubs are major-league losers who couldn't get laid if they had a 10" dick and looked like Tom Selleck.

Well, looks like we've met.

[olevetonahill]

I watched it twice, I wouldnt spend any money on going to a game. nor will i watch it again . thot it was pretty silly

[StoopTroup]

:pop:

[SoonerPr8r]

I agree with the strip club analogy. People will go to what interests them. To try to control morality is absurd. If it's not a good family environment then don't take your family there.

Agreed. If you think that this city is "too moral" for this type of venue then it will fail anyway.

[jumperstop]

For the life of me I can't fathom why someone would want to watch this ****. There's nekkid girls everywhere you look already. Why the hell would you want to see them play football in their drawers?

Then again, I think people who frequent strip clubs are major-league losers who couldn't get laid if they had a 10" dick and looked like Tom Selleck.

Never been to a strip club, don't really care. I can get all that from my gf and then some. I'm not saying I would have season tickets, but I would probably go to a game or two. I mostly think it would have been good for the city, create jobs and exposer on national level. And if you can have hot, scantily clad women while doing that I'm down.

[delhalew]

Mr. Chairman did a pretty good job of slamming OKC's pathetic excuse for a mayor.

[Scott D]

Detroit > OKC

I for one may watch our new LFL franchise :D

[Soonermagik]

I watched it twice, I wouldnt spend any money on going to a game. nor will i watch it again . thot it was pretty silly

That's what is great about this country; let people make their own decisions. The market will dictate that it might fail, or it might be a huge hit. I don't need a mayor trying to insulate me from myself. I have no desire to go, but to try and stop it from coming to the city is really lame. In fact, it reeks of a controlling government, IMHO.

If I wanted a government to censor stuff for me I would move to China. :)

[C&CDean]

I think y'all are assuming a lot here. You're assuming Mayor Mick is deep-sixing this idea because of "morality." I say he's doing it because of all the unwelcome baggage this kind of hokey horse**** brings. Yes, he's going to have to listen to all the blue haired baptists bitch about it, but there's a lot of other reasons why this stuff is not a good idea. If you can't see them, then you're just a perv who wants to pant over skanks in bras and panties. Meh.

[Keller Sooner]

I frequent strip clubs. I'm a major-league loser that can't get laid. I resemble Tom Selleck. That's it, that's all I've got! :D

[CrimsonCommando]

You have to admit it would make for an interesting or fun guy's night. My wifey would frown on me going to a strip club, but she would laugh at us going to a sort of 'powder-puff -n -the -buff' football game. It's not like the tight ends give lap dances, (right??). Anyone ever seen a game?

Curious, what would draw more lesbians, LFL in OKC or WNBA in Tulsa?

[Scott D]

I bet it's the horse racing lobby that is preventing him from approving it ;)

[Leroy Lizard]

I watched it twice, I wouldnt spend any money on going to a game. nor will i watch it again . thot it was pretty silly

This. I never watched it, but it sounds dumb as Hell. Good for Cornett.

[jumperstop]

This. I never watched it, but it sounds dumb as Hell. Good for Cornett.

Whether or not it's dumb as hell, he shouldn't have the right to determine what is right or wrong for me to see. Especially when there are far more important things for him to worry about.

[badger]

I'm not foolish enough to think that womens football would be a viable league if there wasn't some catch. Not in this economy where college womens basketball can still have high attendance but WNBA teams are folding left and right.

But... can't say I'm 100 percent comfortable with this league.

[sooner59]

I like strip clubs....the decent ones anyway. I don't see anything wrong with having them around, nor do I see anything wrong with LFL. Don't like it, don't go. Simple as that. Not saying I would ever buy tickets, because I most likely wouldn't, but I don't GAS about it coming here. It just really doesn't seem to make sense to me why it would be blocked I guess. I don't know the real reasons. But if it is because of people just being too conservative, that's just a load of horse****. Same principle as strip clubs, except not as bad. But come on, to bash everybody that has ever gone to a stripclub is just riding the high horse. I've been to several. I don't look like Tom Sellack, but I have also never needed an 80s porn-stache to get laid. Never actually had a problem getting laid as I have mostly been in relationships. But every once in a while, you just want to see a new rack. :D

[TahoeSOONER]

I've watched it a few times, rules are a little different, and the girls are more athletic than you would suspect and they do hit hard sometimes but it seems to be a just stop and watch for a second type thing.

It comes down to this for me, everything has a demographic and who are you and I to tell someone what's right or wrong for them?

Some people prefer to sit on the porch and watch grass grow. Some people like to watch hot women take their clothes off for money and whoop it up with the boys but we should all be respectful of the freedom of letting people do what they want if it doesn't harm you, fitting a day after Veterans day.

[Leroy Lizard]

BTW, Mitchell Mortaza's statement is absurd and terribly written. Doesn't the LFL have an editor?

[Leroy Lizard]

I think y'all are assuming a lot here. You're assuming Mayor Mick is deep-sixing this idea because of "morality." I say he's doing it because of all the unwelcome baggage this kind of hokey horse**** brings. Yes, he's going to have to listen to all the blue haired baptists bitch about it, but there's a lot of other reasons why this stuff is not a good idea.

This.

[jumperstop]

BTW, Mitchell Mortaza's statement is absurd and terribly written. Doesn't the LFL have an editor?

Yeah comparing OKC to North Korea because of this is a bit much. It's not like we all sit here worshipping our great and dear beloved leader Mayor Mick Cornett. Some people are stupid though...

[Soonermagik]

I hope the Mayor decides in the future to stop violent video games & movies coming to OKC. The same thing with football, because it encourages violence and is dangerous for the players. Why he's at it, I want him to impose a dress code for all citizens.

Meet slippery slope. :)

[Leroy Lizard]

I hope the Mayor decides in the future to stop violent video games & movies coming to OKC. The same thing with football, because it encourages violence and is dangerous for the players. Why he's at it, I want him to impose a dress code for all citizens.

Meet slippery slope. :)

You can use that argument to prevent him from doing anything about anything.

[MeMyself&Me]

I think y'all are assuming a lot here. You're assuming Mayor Mick is deep-sixing this idea because of "morality." I say he's doing it because of all the unwelcome baggage this kind of hokey horse**** brings. Yes, he's going to have to listen to all the blue haired baptists bitch about it, but there's a lot of other reasons why this stuff is not a good idea. If you can't see them, then you're just a perv who wants to pant over skanks in bras and panties. Meh.

This^

Come on people! He's not allowing them access to a PUBLIC arena. They can still pursue a private arena... you do know those strip clubs and such that you keep referencing are PRIVATE right?

I don't have a problem with LFL coming to OKC but I agree that it shouldn't be publicly supported, or even have the perception of public support.

[soonercastor]

Some of you guys are talking like people will be FORCED to go to games. Besides, this sheet is already on TV and TV access >>> stadium access

[Leroy Lizard]

Some of you guys are talking like people will be FORCED to go to games. Besides, this sheet is already on TV and TV access >>> stadium access

Then they can watch it on tv.

[KantoSooner]

This^

Come on people! He's not allowing them access to a PUBLIC arena. They can still pursue a private arena... you do know those strip clubs and such that you keep referencing are PRIVATE right?

I don't have a problem with LFL coming to OKC but I agree that it shouldn't be publicly supported, or even have the perception of public support.

Absolutely Correct! It's a public vs. private venue issue and "public" means more deference must be shown to minority opinion.

Now, as to 'private', let me be four-square on record as saying that if someone wants to get a couple of teams of attractive, highly educated, athletic young women who want to play football whilst barely dressed together, I can be counted upon to rise early and help out with chalking the lines on the field, icing the concessions or providing massages and related physical therapy or the like when and as needed.

I know, I know, big of me.

But that's just the kind of guy I am.

[soonercastor]

LOL I guess since there are no beaches around here, this thing is portrayed as nudity.


Then they can watch it on tv.

what are you "scared of" that would happen and isn't already happening?

[jumperstop]

This^

Come on people! He's not allowing them access to a PUBLIC arena. They can still pursue a private arena... you do know those strip clubs and such that you keep referencing are PRIVATE right?

I don't have a problem with LFL coming to OKC but I agree that it shouldn't be publicly supported, or even have the perception of public support.

It wouldn't be supported by the city, they would just be using the facilities. Go look at the Cox Covention Center website and they have other events there that are not supported by the state. They had political watch parties there and a church meets there, but does that mean the state supports those things? No, it just means they rented the facility.

[AggieGirl2005]

Absolutely Correct! It's a public vs. private venue issue and "public" means more deference must be shown to minority opinion.

Actually legally, it's a bit different. Because it's public, it's government action and all groups must be treated equally. So unless he can show good rational reason why this shouldn't be allowed (and people getting upset over morality issues doesn't count, I mean more like it's illegal or something), he's going to have a legal battle on his hands. Not sure if it's worth pursuing for LFL if they have alternative venues though.

Now a private entity has to right to say yes or no for any reason (some exceptions notwithstanding).

[jumperstop]

Actually legally, it's a bit different. Because it's public, it's government action and all groups must be treated equally. So unless he can show good rational reason why this shouldn't be allowed (and people getting upset over morality issues doesn't count, I mean more like it's illegal or something), he's going to have a legal battle on his hands. Not sure if it's worth pursuing for LFL if they have alternative venues though.

Now a private entity has to right to say yes or no for any reason (some exceptions notwithstanding).

Kinda along the same lines I was saying..

[AggieGirl2005]

Kinda along the same lines I was saying..

Yes, rereading yours in the context of what you were responding to, I think we're in agreement here.

[jumperstop]

Yes, rereading yours in the context of what you were responding to, I think we're in agreement here.

You just made it sound more educated than me...lol

[Soonermagik]

You can use that argument to prevent him from doing anything about anything.

Exactly my point. When you start trying to infringe on the personal choices of society, it becomes a slippery slope. He needs to spend his time working on the budget, cleaning up crime etc..

[oudavid1]

This was a bad idea

[Widescreen]

Detroit > OKC

I for one may watch our new LFL franchise :D

They're really not any good. Their safeties bite on play-action way too often and their QB gets panicky in the pocket.

[Soonermagik]

They're really not any good. Their safeties bite on play-action way too often and their QB gets panicky in the pocket.

Do they have tear-away unis? You know, for safety. :D

[Breadburner]

For the life of me I can't fathom why someone would want to watch this ****. There's nekkid girls everywhere you look already. Why the hell would you want to see them play football in their drawers?

Then again, I think people who frequent strip clubs are major-league losers who couldn't get laid if they had a 10" dick and looked like Tom Selleck.

Next time we meet I will make sure and have my pants on....I guess you did not notice I had no moustache.....

[C&CDean]

Next time we meet I will make sure and have my pants on....I guess you did not notice I had no moustache.....

Says needledick the bug ****er.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

meh..the mayor says no...whats the big deal?

[sooner KB]

Actually legally, it's a bit different. Because it's public, it's government action and all groups must be treated equally.

Source?

[badger]

Do they have tear-away unis? You know, for safety. :D

Funny that you mention this.

From the same people that exposed A Million Little Pieces as a million little lies, read here. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/lingerie-league-gets-litigious)

Moral issues and concerns over objectifying women aside, probably not the best sports league to bring to our state.

[C&CDean]

Funny that you mention this.

From the same people that exposed A Million Little Pieces as a million little lies, read here. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/lingerie-league-gets-litigious)

Moral issues and concerns over objectifying women aside, probably not the best sports league to bring to our state.

[average soonerfans slobbering perv]but I wanna see titties man!![/average soonerfans slobbering perv]

Like I said before, there's a ton of reasons why this crap shouldn't be in OKC. "Morality" might be one of them, but it ain't the only one.

[jumperstop]

Funny that you mention this.

From the same people that exposed A Million Little Pieces as a million little lies, read here. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/lingerie-league-gets-litigious)

Moral issues and concerns over objectifying women aside, probably not the best sports league to bring to our state.

The NFL does a lot of the same stuff that was mentioned in that article. They try to not pay players medical bills. But you're probably right, doesn't sound like a very well run organization.

[AggieGirl2005]

Source?

Equal protection clause of the 14th amendment and the freedom of speech clause of the 1st amendment. Stripping and pornography are both "speech" - I think lingerie football would be speech too (at the very least you could argue it is and file a lawsuit).

It all depends on his reasoning for denying the use of the center - he didn't go into it in the article though.

[AggieGirl2005]

Funny that you mention this.

From the same people that exposed A Million Little Pieces as a million little lies, read here. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/lingerie-league-gets-litigious)

Moral issues and concerns over objectifying women aside, probably not the best sports league to bring to our state.

Wow, that's awful.

[Soonermagik]

Funny that you mention this.

From the same people that exposed A Million Little Pieces as a million little lies, read here. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/lingerie-league-gets-litigious)

Moral issues and concerns over objectifying women aside, probably not the best sports league to bring to our state.

Interesting how they won't allow them to wear bras, panties etc.. The accidental nudity part made me laugh. At the end of the day, the women have the freedom not to participate. Just as women have the freedom to choose or not choose to work at strip joints etc.. I just really like freedom. Do what you want as long as you aren't harming someone else.

[stoopified]

I Iyou're just a perv who wants to pant over skanks in bras and panties. Meh.
Why is this a bad thing? :)

[2121Sooner]

Seattle has a LFL team................you guys should steal that from Seattle too.

[bent rider]

Seattle has a LFL team................you guys should steal that from Seattle too.

They had to find something to fill Key Arena.

For everyone missing the LFL, will you settle for Roller Derby this weekend?
http://oklahomavictorydolls.com/vd/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=83&Itemid=2

[2121Sooner]

They had to find something to fill Key Arena.


The team doesnt play there. They are filling Key Arena with "Hempfest" and crap like that.

[sooner59]

I love how its cool to allow satanic rituals in the Cox Center, but lingerie football is a no-no. :rolleyes:

[Leroy Lizard]

Exactly my point. When you start trying to infringe on the personal choices of society, it becomes a slippery slope. He needs to spend his time working on the budget, cleaning up crime etc..

The slippery slope argument is a fallacy for a reason.

[setem]

Nope. Mick Cornet c**k blocks the city.

this!

[CrimsonRez]

It's not a case about Mick **** blocking the city. It's a case of him looking at it in the long run and seeing it like any rational person will see it, and that is as it being a 2 year thing and a huge waste of money. We can't put people in seats for teams that you can have a real emotional tie to like the yard dawgz (who are not playing this year), Barons, Redhawks, OU basketball, etc... What they should do is let the LFL play a game or two here next season and take surveys to see if people would go to the games or not. IMO it's a bad idea, and that's how anyone would see it if you're thinking beyond hot bodies in lingerie, which I understand is hard to look past.

[picasso]

Go to a strip club if you can't get any real poon.

Better yet, get off this site and checkout the millions of free keyboard spanking visuals on this here inernets.

[SoonerRoy]

If the mayor won't let them play in OKC owned buildings, have them play on high school fields - if necessary outside the OKC limits. Doubt the teams would draw more than a HS game anyway.

[OU_Sooners75]

I wonder how many of you have actually watched this so called football being played.

First, I love good looking loosely clad women like the next man, but come on...this is not football.

I tried watching one game on MTV2 and it was very hard to watch. Not only are they wearing underwear and bras when playing, but it is like trying to watch a junior high football game where your child is not playing on the team.

You do not give a **** and will likely leave well before it is over.

The LFL is ****ty. If the XFL cannot last, this league damn sure will not last!

[MR2-Sooner86]

The LFL is ****ty. If the XFL cannot last, this league damn sure will not last!

I'll disagree with that. With the LFL you know what you're getting and you know what it is. It's chicks wearing little clothing playing football. That's it.

The XFL was marketed as "no body bag no foul" which wasn't the case. You got it trying to be wrestling with the lights and showing off with a football game thrown into the mix. It tried to be way too much.

Anyway, this decision is idiotic and most of the people glad this happened are either closet homosexuals, feminist, or pentecostal.

1. It's football. I don't care what you say, it's football. Do they play by the same rules, hit each other, and actually use a football? Yes? Ok, it's ****ing football.

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Looks like football to me.

2. They are athletes so of course they're going to be toned, slim, and not fat and flabby. How many overweight guys who wheeze when they breath do you see playing in the NFL, college, or arena football? Exactly.
Also, nobody wants to pay to see fat girls. Sorry that's how it is. Remember when Chris Farley went up against Patrick Swayze to be a Chippendales dancer and lost because he was too fat? Yeah, same thing applies here.

3. How is this any different from cheerleaders or pom squades you see at other sporting events doing very provocative dances wearing skimpy tight clothes?

Tell me the difference between the two.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/multimedia/photo_gallery/0810/nfl.cheerleaders.cowboys/images/cowboys-cheerleaders.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UZemwx3pQKM/SxLHTDkG0PI/AAAAAAAAABU/9gvNvEPA7ps/s1600/Lingerie-Football-Leaguekg.jpg

4. As for it bringing in the wrong crowd, let me ask you, what's wrong with college guys? That's the crowd the LFL goes after. You're going to get a whole lot of college aged guys and men in their late 20's to early 30's.

5. Finally, who the **** are you to judge what's moral or not? I notice Hooters hasn't been banned from OKC yet women playing football is? Glad to see that double standard.

[Leroy Lizard]

I want to open a toupee booth at an LFL game. You couldn't get a purer market.

[Leroy Lizard]

So I watched the clip and... explain why any normal male would attend this game rather than go to the nearest strip club?

I could have a job as a longshoreman and still be embarrassed being seen at one of these games.

[MR2-Sooner86]

So I watched the clip and... explain why any normal male would attend this game rather than go to the nearest strip club?

Alcohol, football, and women beating the hell out of each other on a Friday night? That's a bachelor party pre-game (no pun) right there.

Like I said, late teens, 20's, and early 30's males are the main target audience for this and I think it would deliver.

[Leroy Lizard]

Alcohol, football, and women beating the hell out of each other on a Friday night? That's a bachelor party pre-game (no pun) right there.

Just have the local strip club install a tv and show replays of Monday Night Football. At least the women aren't dressed absurdly and there within 50 yards of you. And you can see real football.

[Scott D]

Alcohol, football, and women beating the hell out of each other on a Friday night? That's a bachelor party pre-game (no pun) right there.

sounds like the nfl gameday experience at Jerry World.

[StoopTroup]

You ought to lay off on the Sooner Cheerleader.

[Leroy Lizard]

You ought to lay off on the Sooner Cheerleader.

100% Agreed. That is one of our cheerleaders. WTF is wrong with some of you people?

[soonercastor]

sounds like the nfl gameday experience at Jerry World.

I'm assuming you're referring to this gem?

LINK (http://deadspin.com/5680796/front-row-lap-dance-at-the-cowboys-game)

[ictsooner7]

First, you cannot legislate morality because who’s morality are you going to legislate? Second, hot girls in lingerie playing football??? Covers two of my three favorite things.

[MR2-Sooner86]

You ought to lay off on the Sooner Cheerleader.

You're right. I shouldn't make fun of her especially being a Sooner. I'm sorry for that.

And no that's not sarcasm I'm actually being serious for once.

[Leroy Lizard]

First, you cannot legislate morality because who’s morality are you going to legislate?

Mine!

Next question.


Second, hot girls in lingerie playing football???

Hard to tell from 50 yards away and covered in shoulder pads and a helmet.

[StoopTroup]

Welll...if your serious...then why don't you go back and edit your post.

[MR2-Sooner86]

Welll...if your serious...then why don't you go back and edit your post.

Done and done.

[picasso]

First, you cannot legislate morality because who’s morality are you going to legislate? Second, hot girls in lingerie playing football??? Covers two of my three favorite things.

Who says Mr. Mayor is doing that? Looks to me like he's saying no to a ****ty product.

[Leroy Lizard]

Who says Mr. Mayor is doing that? Looks to me like he's saying no to a ****ty product.

Besides, we legislate morality all the time.

[sooner KB]

To me, it's more about the fact that the team would represent the city. They would be called the Oklahoma City Whatevers, would be playing in our convention center, etc. It just reflects poorly on us (I say "us" because I live in OKC) to have something so trashy. It being compared to private strip clubs is ridiculous. And saying this has to do with "morality" and that the mayor is "legislating morality" is also ridiculous. I don't think watching girls in lingerie is immoral at all. But do I want to pass an OKC Thunder billboard one second and then pass an "Oklahoma City Desire" billboard the next? No. Like I said earlier, it makes us look trashy, and it just reinforces the stereotype that everyone from Oklahoma are dumb, sexist rednecks that can't tell how or why certain things are demeaning to women.

[Leroy Lizard]

To me, it's more about the fact that the team would represent the city. They would be called the Oklahoma City Whatevers, would be playing in our convention center, etc. It just reflects poorly on us (I say "us" because I live in OKC) to have something so trashy. It being compared to private strip clubs is ridiculous. And saying this has to do with "morality" and that the mayor is "legislating morality" is also ridiculous. I don't think watching girls in lingerie is immoral at all. But do I want to pass an OKC Thunder billboard one second and then pass an "Oklahoma City Desire" billboard the next? No. Like I said earlier, it makes us look trashy, and it just reinforces the stereotype that everyone from Oklahoma are dumb, sexist rednecks that can't tell how or why certain things are demeaning to women.

Well said. OKC should be striving for upscale Malibu, not Alabama mobile home park. "Don't lay that trash on Oklahoma."

[sooner59]

To me, it's more about the fact that the team would represent the city. They would be called the Oklahoma City Whatevers, would be playing in our convention center, etc. It just reflects poorly on us (I say "us" because I live in OKC) to have something so trashy. It being compared to private strip clubs is ridiculous. And saying this has to do with "morality" and that the mayor is "legislating morality" is also ridiculous. I don't think watching girls in lingerie is immoral at all. But do I want to pass an OKC Thunder billboard one second and then pass an "Oklahoma City Desire" billboard the next? No. Like I said earlier, it makes us look trashy, and it just reinforces the stereotype that everyone from Oklahoma are dumb, sexist rednecks that can't tell how or why certain things are demeaning to women.

I wouldn't worry about people singling Oklahoma out for that reason. Here is a list of cities with teams:

San Diego, Chicago, Dallas, Tampa, Los Angeles, Seattle, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Orlando, and Miami.

Basically all of those cities sans Philly are less trashy than OKC. Only certain parts of OKC aren't trashy, and in those areas, if you go 3 or 4 blocks in any direction, you are back in the shady areas. I have no problem blocking this, but I would hope they focus their attention on cleaning up OKC more.....and not just polishing up the Bricktown/Downtown area. OKC has really changed for the better over the years. There is a chance to do a lot of good stuff with this city.

[Leroy Lizard]

I wouldn't worry about people singling Oklahoma out for that reason. Here is a list of cities with teams:

San Diego, Chicago, Dallas, Tampa, Los Angeles, Seattle, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Orlando, and Miami.

Basically all of those cities sans Philly are less trashy than OKC.

The smaller the city the more the little things matter. Why bring in elements that only further the stereotype?

[sooner59]

The smaller the city the more the little things matter. Why bring in elements that only further the stereotype?

I can't argue with you there. I was just pointing out that most of the major cities had teams so it wasn't like they only existed in "almost" OKC, Denton, Shreveport, Hattiesburg, Jackson, Birmingham, Memphis, Little Rock, and Atlanta.

[Leroy Lizard]

I can't argue with you there. I was just pointing out that most of the major cities had teams so it wasn't like they only existed in "almost" OKC, Denton, Shreveport, Hattiesburg, Jackson, Birmingham, Memphis, Little Rock, and Atlanta.

Got it.

[birddog]

teh OKC Beavers. i'm in!