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Toronto Sooner
11/7/2010, 08:03 AM
The good: KW appears to be a good recruiter and does well with player development.

The bad: KW`s play calling is atrocious in certain situations / certain games / certains periods with in games (IMO).

The ugly: Bob Stoops is in da nile (IMO).


Here are some post mortems I had done on some key games in previously years (perviously posted). Sadly, absolutely nothing has changed. I don`t see how anything will change in the future given that Bob appears to be in denial. I have plenty of issues with BV also, but KW`s play calling has always been my number 1 concern.


Posted after the BYU game last year (there were obviously bigger issues in 2009, including injuries, but the underlying KW problem was still there, IMO - it was just masked by bigger issues in 2009 ):

``For the longest time I couldn't help but notice fundamental concerns that have not been addressed, IMHO. I think Bob needs to take a more of an active role (some soft of buddy system) with play calling (especially in key situations and in big games) until KW demonstrates he doesn't need the help.`` Failing that, Bob needs to hire a play calling specialist, as a co-offensive co-ordinator.


Posted in 2008:

``It seems as if KW struggles to make appropriate `real time` adjustments when the game is on the line. He either doesn't seem to grasp exactly what is happening or refuses to believe that his game plan needs to be adjusted within the game or perhaps just struggles to find the right solution. I am leaning more and more towards him just simply believing that his guys should just physically take charge of a game, and thus he refuses to alter the game plan away from smash mouth football (even for a few plays).``


Post mortem of the Texas game in 2008 (the KW point was only 1 of 8 points I had made about that game):

"7) KW – in my opinion, KW was a key reason we lost the Texas game. I was so frustrated with his play calling while watching the Texas game. Later in the game, he kept going with the run, possession, after possession, after possession, even though it was clear that the run game was not going to work on that particular day. The key problem with this it that instead of Sam having 3 plays to throw for a first down, he was often left with only 1 play (sometimes 2) to gain 10 years. It didn’t leave any room for errors, such as receiver drops. This resulted in a number of extremely short drives for our offence, which forced our D to stay on the field way too long – the long Taxes run near the end of the game was likely due to our D being too fatigued."


Post mortem of the Florida (National Championship) game, as it relates to KW (we matched up very well against Florida - IMO, KW`s play calling was.....):

``1) Why not more quick dump passes out of the backfield to an RB to beat the intense Florida pass rush and speed, to get the Florida safties/DB's to step up, and just simply to get easy yards? Chris Brown has the abilities, as he has demonstrated all year long, and also on the one big screen pass in the 4th quarter of the Florida game. Why didn't they mix it up when times got tough?

2) Why no (or few) run fakes, with a pass? With Florida's over aggressive D, this should have been a staple play all night long.

3) Why not roll Sam out of the pocket more often to buy more time, and to allow the receivers to separate?

4) Why not run Sam on a play here and there to get Florida's D thinking - injury to Sam is a slight risk, but this is football and the National Championship game (although, Sam has demonstrated he can run for 5 yards then dive before being hammered)? Granted, this would probably be the very last option.

5) Where was the quarterback sneak on very short yardage, where the D doesn't have enough time to gain penetration (and where we can take advantage of the bulk of our O-line players)? Afterall, we did it successfully all year long.

6) Why no trick plays to loosen up the D?

7) Why not go to Gresham even more frequently until they prove they can stop him? It was clear that Florida was unable to match up with Gresham. MR. GRESHAM WAS A MONSTER - Florida had no answers for him.

8) Why not utilize Chaney more frequently with a 5 to 10 yard pass play - take advantage of OU's height advantage (against their short d-backs) like they did successfully earlier in the game? Going into the game, I felt that Gresham and Chaney would be key weapons for the Sooners, due to the size advantage. It seemed like Broyles was completely shut down by the speed and swarm tackling by Florida's D. I felt they should have gone more to Chaney, similar to the plays that worked in the first half - I don't think Florida proved they had an answer to either him or Gresham, especially on the 5 to 10 yard plays.``

GrapevineSooner
11/7/2010, 08:08 AM
Well, you can't fault KW for Landry not hitting Stills in the first and Hanna dropping that pass on the fake FG.

But yesterday when A&M had a 4th and goal from inside the 1, they knew we'd sell out to stop the run.

So they called a play action pass to the TE in the flat. Which works about 99.9% of the time in football.

Did it ever occur to KW to try that play any of the three fourth and goals he had last night? Or does he just not trust the TE's that much?

OU-HSV
11/7/2010, 08:42 AM
Well, you can't fault KW for Landry not hitting Stills in the first and Hanna dropping that pass on the fake FG.

But yesterday when A&M had a 4th and goal from inside the 1, they knew we'd sell out to stop the run.

So they called a play action pass to the TE in the flat. Which works about 99.9% of the time in football.

Did it ever occur to KW to try that play any of the three fourth and goals he had last night? Or does he just not trust the TE's that much?

This is my biggest question about some of our goal line failures from last night and dating back to the '08 season and probably further than that. Where is the play action pass?? Why the hell are we trying to run up the middle or sometimes the outside consecutive times without putting some play action calls in there/especially when we don't have any timeouts left and we're trying to make a two score miracle comeback. Run Run Run fail=what I saw on that last goal line series.

Oh and as far as the deep Stills drop, you are correct, that's not on KW...that's on Landry for overthrowing it to a wide open receiver, terrible accuracy for having a man wide open. And maybe I'm incorrect, but I honestly don't recall anyone in Landry's face when he overthrew that one so we can't blame the O-line in this case either.

PLaw
11/7/2010, 08:48 AM
Red Zone Genius to Red Zone idiot in 36 months.

Bummer

OU-HSV
11/7/2010, 08:54 AM
I've never called KW a redzone genius

GregFockerRN
11/7/2010, 08:55 AM
Red Zone Genius to Red Zone idiot in 36 months.

Bummer

He was never a red zone genius.

CtheB
11/7/2010, 09:00 AM
Wilson was a Red Zone Genius when he had Bradford and Gresham. There are more than a few dozen coordinators who would be labeled a genius with that talent.

tulsaoilerfan
11/7/2010, 10:29 AM
Wilson was a Red Zone Genius when he had Bradford and Gresham. There are more than a few dozen coordinators who would be labeled a genius with that talent.

Gotta agree with that; those 2 would make any coordinator look pretty damn good

Soonerite
11/7/2010, 10:32 AM
From where I was sitting it didnt look like Stills was running full speed. It looked like a perfectly thrown ball and Stills just misjudged it or something. I don't think that one was on Landry.

tcrb
11/7/2010, 10:34 AM
Wilson was a Red Zone Genius when he had Bradford and Gresham. There are more than a few dozen coordinators who would be labeled a genius with that talent.

My wife could have been a Red Zone Genius with Sam and Gresh.

adoniijahsooner
11/7/2010, 10:42 AM
From where I was sitting it didnt look like Stills was running full speed. It looked like a perfectly thrown ball and Stills just misjudged it or something. I don't think that one was on Landry.

Thats how Stills runs....he is very fluid and smooth watch his high school highlights.

OU-HSV
11/7/2010, 10:44 AM
From where I was sitting it didnt look like Stills was running full speed. It looked like a perfectly thrown ball and Stills just misjudged it or something. I don't think that one was on Landry.

I watched it back a few times, to me Stills was running full speed. When I saw it live I thought Stills shouldn't have dove for it, BUT after watching the replay a few times it was an overthrown ball and Stills made the best attempt he could at catching it. Landry needs to have better deep touch than that, especially when a dude is wide open like that. Goes to show how spoiled we were with Sam.