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StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 05:47 PM
If you all can't find anyone...let me know...LOL


WASHINGTON — Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin gave the strongest indication yet that she is preparing a 2012 White House bid, saying Thursday she would run for president "if there is nobody else to do it."





http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5id0Duod4kh7o_V5JqES6BMUOAlMQ?docId=CNG.c8806 b0465005156c3ed4b83c649cb5d.f71

soonerchk
10/28/2010, 05:51 PM
She has nice hair.

SoonerNate
10/28/2010, 05:53 PM
At this point I'd vote for Porky the Pig over this idiot.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 05:54 PM
Alright....I'll do it if you all are gonna have to ask Sarah.

I want it to be clear though...If I'm offered a Book deal or a job at Fox...I might bail.

SoonerNate
10/28/2010, 05:56 PM
I don't want her. At least not for President.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 05:57 PM
I don't want her. At least not for President.

SHE'S THE LEADER OF YOUR PARTY!

YOU NEED HER!!!

:D

SoonerNate
10/28/2010, 06:01 PM
No she isn't. At this point we don't have a leader. BTW, I hope you are around spouting off on Tuesday night.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 06:04 PM
No she isn't. At this point we don't have a leader. BTW, I hope you are around spouting off on Tuesday night.

Who is it then? Speculate please


That said, no clear Republican contender has emerged and Palin has been buoyed by support from the Tea Party, a right-wing populist movement galvanized by opposition to taxes and rising government spending.

soonerscuba
10/28/2010, 07:30 PM
No she isn't. At this point we don't have a leader. BTW, I hope you are around spouting off on Tuesday night.It's a mid-term, not an OU-Texas game. Why would you feel the need to gloat as if the Republican party is a rooting interest? It seems kinda silly.

picasso
10/28/2010, 07:35 PM
I don't want her either but I heard an interesting theory on the radio. Apparently the left is worried that Bloomberg will run as an independent, thus opening the door for Palin with a Pub controlled house.

Politics suck.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 07:37 PM
I was kinda having fun...

But your right...Politics suck.

soonerscuba
10/28/2010, 07:39 PM
I don't want her either but I heard an interesting theory on the radio. Apparently the left is worried that Bloomberg will run as an independent, thus opening the door for Palin with a Pub controlled house.

Politics suck.I would put a lot of weight on this theory. The administration pretty much bends over backwards for him, I think he ends up Sec. Treasury before it comes to that.

picasso
10/28/2010, 07:42 PM
I would put a lot of weight on this theory. The administration pretty much bends over backwards for him, I think he ends up Sec. Treasury before it comes to that.

Yep, I heard that idea too. The thought is that the guy has the money and isn't getting any younger and apparently has been dodging the Obama's.

JohnnyMack
10/28/2010, 07:48 PM
Karl Rove pretty much put Palin in her place today I thought

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 07:49 PM
Karl Rove pretty much put Palin in her place today I thought

The end of that article has some of his quotes.

JohnnyMack
10/28/2010, 07:59 PM
The end of that article has some of his quotes.

I don't actually READ your posts. :D

oumartin
10/28/2010, 08:05 PM
well shame on her for doing a reality show. At least Obamas back seat gay sechs in his limo was never put on camera.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 08:14 PM
I don't actually READ :D

FIFY :D

Jerk
10/28/2010, 08:20 PM
It's a mid-term, not an OU-Texas game. Why would you feel the need to gloat as if the Republican party is a rooting interest? It seems kinda silly.

ohhhh...it happened to me 4 years ago during the last Bush mid-term when bug-eyed Palosi took over. You should have seen my pm's. Then Stewart did the "bye bye d*****b*g" skit. You can bet that this will not be forgotten.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 08:25 PM
Bug eyed? I don't see it? :D

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hHERZ_LMGz0/SrQd8v4tTmI/AAAAAAAADnY/c09m1SoPvoU/s400/Nancy+Pelosi+bug+eyes.jpg

Jerk
10/28/2010, 08:26 PM
That whore has spent 5 trillion dollars since she took over

(all spending bills originate in the house)

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 08:33 PM
That whore has spent 5 trillion dollars since she took over

(all spending bills originate in the house)

What all did we get?

http://www.puppetgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/trillion-bill.jpg
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Scott D
10/28/2010, 08:39 PM
She's getting a better salary and popular appeal being Glenda Beck.

Penguin
10/28/2010, 08:51 PM
Why would she run for prez? For people popular in the Republican Party, there is more money and more power (domestically) by getting a show on Fox News. She might not ever be the queen, but she can be a kingmaker.

Scott D
10/28/2010, 09:07 PM
and quite honestly (and I never thought I'd say this). Karl Rove said pretty much what I was thinking when I read the title of this thread.

SouthCarolinaSooner
10/28/2010, 09:08 PM
I don't want her. At least not for President.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2367515373_515ff7a325.jpg

SanJoaquinSooner
10/28/2010, 09:09 PM
"There are high standards that the American people have for it (the presidency) and they require a certain level of gravitas," Rove said, "and they want to look at the candidate and say, 'That candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world.'"

It's interesting though, if you recall, these same things were said about Reagan the 15 years prior to him becoming elected.... that he was not up to the task intellectually, etc. People died laughing when he announced that he was running for governor of california. And even when he was elected, he was dubbed President Bonzo (borrowed from a movie title).

I think Sarah Palin has some of the same characteristics as Reagan. She may not grab the nomination, but neither did Reagan his first two attempts.

I think the pubs should go for it.

StoopTroup
10/28/2010, 09:12 PM
Me too. She should get her a Momma Grizzly for VP

Scott D
10/28/2010, 09:13 PM
The difference is, Reagan was pretty much done with being Hollywood Reagan, and didn't quit in the middle of being Governor because mean people were picking on him. Palin's too busy wanting to be a tee vee star right now.

The Remnant
10/29/2010, 11:31 AM
Didn't Obama just tell Latinos on Univision to "punish your enemies" on election day? What a worthless piece of crap.

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 11:33 AM
As long as you aren't the enemy what's the big deal? :D

OUthunder
10/29/2010, 11:44 AM
How can Sarah Palin be any worse than the POS we have in the white house now?

The answer: NONE

I say give her a shot.

Big 8
10/29/2010, 11:47 AM
The brits, frogs, and jerries are going to be real disappointed in us if we don't maintain the liberal/socialist/Democrat groundswell.

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/10/28/5360324-europe-dismayed-as-midterms-highlight-obamas-struggles

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 12:51 PM
It's a mid-term, not an OU-Texas game. Why would you feel the need to gloat as if the Republican party is a rooting interest? It seems kinda silly.

I saw quite a bit of gloating when Obama won.

OnlyOneOklahoma
10/29/2010, 02:14 PM
Honestly I had a dream last night about taking her out for a nice steak dinner and then tapping that.

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 02:20 PM
I saw quite a bit of gloating when Obama won.

Was it gloating or a Historical Event?

Crucifax Autumn
10/29/2010, 02:27 PM
We all gloat down here.

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 02:43 PM
I want Romney

OklahomaTuba
10/29/2010, 02:51 PM
Screm em all. Bring on the fat man.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/TIpOVDWUERI/AAAAAAAAIqQ/aEA4zQzg3H0/s1600/chris-christie-election-night-a8f650a4ba4106c2.jpg

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 02:54 PM
How can Sarah Palin be any worse than the POS we have in the white now?

The answer: NONE

I say give her a shot.

I'd rather see McCain.

Bourbon St Sooner
10/29/2010, 03:23 PM
The difference is, Reagan was pretty much done with being Hollywood Reagan, and didn't quit in the middle of being Governor because mean people were picking on him. Palin's too busy wanting to be a tee vee star right now.

You know, when she gave up her post a year ago I said to myself that she's going to be a great reality tv star. And lo and behold...

That being said you have to give her some credit. She wields a lot of influence and is very popular in many circles. And no political figure in the country, except the POTUS (maybe), commands more media attention.

I'm still no fan, but I'm not selling her short.


Of course I'd do her short, because that's all I got.

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 03:25 PM
Was it gloating or a Historical Event?

Exactly! He wasn't elected because of qualifications. He was elected because it was historical.

C&CDean
10/29/2010, 03:36 PM
Anybody who supports Obama and then bashes Palin is a hypocritical liar. I ain't no fan of Palin, but hell man, give her a shot. We let this dumbass in, why not let another one? At least she has governed something, even if it was Alaska. Besides, I wanna see the country's first "first gentleman."

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 03:43 PM
Exactly! He wasn't elected because of qualifications. He was elected because it was historical.

So, are you saying that a white state senator from a midwestern state who graduated from Columbia University, did some community service work before heading to law school, was selected president of the Harvard Law Review, worked part time as a law professor while serving in the State House, and was elected to the U.S. Senate isn't qualified to be president? There's a word for what you are.

And all we know about Sarah Palin's odyssey through higher education is that she didn't like going to college in Hawaii because she was a minority there.

C&CDean
10/29/2010, 03:46 PM
So, are you saying that a white state senator from a midwestern state who graduated from Columbia University, did some community service work before heading to law school, was selected president of the Harvard Law Review, worked part time as a law professor while serving in the State House, and was elected to the U.S. Senate isn't qualified to be president? There's a word for what you are.

And all we know about Sarah Palin's odyssey through higher education is that she didn't like going to college in Hawaii because she was a minority there.

No, what he's saying is that he was elected because he was a brother. Well a half-brother anyhow.

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 03:51 PM
No, what he's saying is that he was elected because he was a brother. Well a half-brother anyhow.

Better a high achiever than someone who graduated third from the bottom in his class at Annapolis.

C&CDean
10/29/2010, 03:55 PM
Better a high achiever than someone who graduated third from the bottom in his class at Annapolis.

Oh. So you've gotta be pointy-headed to be the prez now? Nerds only?

I'm no fan of McCain, but I'll take a man who has walked a mile, served his country, has at least a clue of how the cat gets skinned over some little bimbo boy who has had his way paved with $$$ from rich Chicago hoodlums as my CIC I'm thinking. Besides, the proof is in the pudding. How's your boy doing these days? That's what I thought. Epic. Fail.

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 03:55 PM
No, what he's saying is that he was elected because he was a brother. Well a half-brother anyhow.

Which half is he gonna lean towards the next two years? :D

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 03:55 PM
He had zero experience whatsoever. He was elected because it was historical. If you want to throw labels then go right ahead. That card has been played beyond exhaustion already. BTW, I voted for him. Why? Because I didn't want to have to explain to my grandchildren that I didn't vote for the first black prez. If McCain would have had a prayer I wouldn't have tho

OUthunder
10/29/2010, 03:58 PM
I'd rather see McCain.

Just the Republican version of Obama, at a much slower rate.

I hated voting for that mutherfukker.

oumartin
10/29/2010, 04:01 PM
I'll vote for Pallin because she is a smokin' hot, gun totin' right wing radical I'd like to break over a counter and have my way with.


and those glasses. she looks so hot in those glasses.

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 04:04 PM
Oh. So you've gotta be pointy-headed to be the prez now? Nerds only?



At least intelligent enough to speak proper American English.

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 04:05 PM
We've gone from a President can't read off a teleprompter to one that can't speak without one!

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 04:07 PM
At least he can pronounce nuclear properly!

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 04:09 PM
We've gone from a President can't read off a teleprompter to one that can't speak without one!

Really....your gonna throw that out there again?

These are the two most powerful guys in the World and it doesn't appear that there is anyone else capable to handle it any better...well...except maybe a momma grizzly

OUthunder
10/29/2010, 04:09 PM
Vocabulary smack is ghey.

oumartin
10/29/2010, 04:09 PM
she looks better in a skirt!

JohnnyMack
10/29/2010, 04:12 PM
I'll vote for Pallin because she is a smokin' hot, gun totin' right wing radical I'd like to break over a counter and have my way with.


and those glasses. she looks so hot in those glasses.

America. **** yeah!

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 04:13 PM
At least he can pronounce nuclear properly!

That is how it is pronounced in West Texas. I agree it seems weird though.

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 04:16 PM
That is how it is pronounced in West Texas. I agree it seems weird though.

It's not weird, it's WRONG.

oumartin
10/29/2010, 04:18 PM
If the same number of Americans vote for Palin because she's a woman that voted for Obama cuz he's black, she would win in a landslide.

C&CDean
10/29/2010, 04:20 PM
It's not weird, it's WRONG.

So, we've gone to the "nucular" smack again. Lame. Guess it's the only thing you've got. You sure can't throw out any ammo in support of your boy, can you? Palin>Obama. There, I said it. She can't be any worse.

virginiasooner
10/29/2010, 04:23 PM
I voted for Obama for a lot of reasons. His being black was not one of them. But there was no way on God's Green Earth that I would have voted for McCain after he picked Know Nothing Sarah Palin. If Mc Cain had picked one the Maine Senators, or perhaps Christie Todd Whitman, he would have shown he wasn't beholden to the crazies, and may have picked up a couple more states -- maybe even made it a contest. But McCain created a monster -- Palin got a dose of the taste of fame, and now she's addicted to it and we all have to suffer.

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 04:50 PM
I voted for Obama for a lot of reasons. His being black was not one of them. But there was no way on God's Green Earth that I would have voted for McCain after he picked Know Nothing Sarah Palin. If Mc Cain had picked one the Maine Senators, or perhaps Christie Todd Whitman, he would have shown he wasn't beholden to the crazies, and may have picked up a couple more states -- maybe even made it a contest. But McCain created a monster -- Palin got a dose of the taste of fame, and now she's addicted to it and we all have to suffer.

You want to talk about bad running mates? How about Kerry choosing an ambulance chaser that cheats on his dying wife and has a love child? I bet he was qualified though, being a man and all right?

I'm sick of the sexism from the left.

tommieharris91
10/29/2010, 04:53 PM
You want to talk about bad running mates? How about Kerry choosing an ambulance chaser that cheats on his dying wife and has a love child? I bet he was qualified though, being a man and all right?

I'm sick of the sexism from the left.
It's not like Kerry's changing his platform every week had nothing to do with him losing to W, either.

OklahomaTuba
10/29/2010, 04:53 PM
And biden is any better? hahahaha.

OklahomaTuba
10/29/2010, 05:08 PM
Thurston Heinz III lost because he is a ****** bag. And his VP nominee is perhaps the worst POS to ever run for that office.

SunnySooner
10/29/2010, 06:59 PM
The really sad thing in the "if there's no one else to do it" school of thought is that a lot of highly capable, highly intelligent, highly qualified people who would probably do a fantastic job, inspire and lead a nation to new heights will NEVER run for county dog-catcher, much less POTUS. Why? Well, because they are all human, and like all of us, have a few skeletons rattling around. The media these days, in their never-ending quest for ratings and The Story, are waiting to investigate and crucify anyone who puts their name forward. Ever done anything you aren't particularly proud of? Well, unless you want the intimate details of the incident plastered on every conceivable media outlet, you better just forget politics. ESPECIALLY if you're a Pub, 'cause the "party of morals" is held to an unmerciful amount of scrutiny, and if you're gonna run for anything as a Pub, you better be damn near sainthood in your private life, because if you're not, you'll be painted as a liar and hypocrite the moment you throw your hat in the ring. Democrats get away with much more, because they are the party of "whatever floats your boat", so the fact that you once did 14 guys at a frat party is classified as your "right" to express yourself sexually. Hell, Obama himself admitted to all kinds of drug use, and it wasn't even mentioned by the mainstream. If he'd been a Pub, though, it would've been the headline of the NYT in huge font.

Until this culture of "gotcha" media changes, I'm afraid that the best and brightest among us will prefer that their dirty laundry remains in the hamper, and we'll be left with a lower quality tier of candidates who see the chance at power and prestige as a reward that justifies the examination of their lives. And that's scary--because instead of smart people who might actually work for the good of the country, we'll be left with power-hungry morons who are too dumb to see the destruction the media wreaks on them and especially, their families, as a price too high to pay.

Scott D
10/29/2010, 07:03 PM
I disagree to a point Sunny. To go beyond the municipal level you have to be willing to sell at least a portion of your soul in the world of politics.

SunnySooner
10/29/2010, 07:28 PM
Not sure I get your disagreement, Scott--I'm blonde, type slowly and use small words. ;)

Are you saying that those who run for higher office deserve what they get as far as the media colonoscopy? That they know when they run what will happen and therefore accept that scrutiny in return for power? If so, I would agree. My point is that instead of real, qualified candidates, we get soulless, power-hungry *******s who will do anything to get elected.

In my time as a Navy wife, I've met a lot of people who have achieved a great amount of success in their military careers, are highly educated, experienced in a WIDE range of matters, extremely patriotic, down-to-earth, commonsensical, and would make amazing politicians, people who might actually do things that would make things better, but because of their desire for privacy, or their wish to protect themselves and their families, including their extended families--because these days, nothing is off-limits--they would never run for office, and all that talent, knowledge, and experience is never put to use.

Scott D
10/29/2010, 07:32 PM
I'm more going back to the "I'll do it if no one else is going to do it" and more to the core reason people aren't more active in attempting to run for political office.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:08 PM
It's a mid-term, not an OU-Texas game. Why would you feel the need to gloat as if the Republican party is a rooting interest? It seems kinda silly.

To pretend that Dems don't root for Dems, and Repubs don't root for Repubs, seems kinda silly.

And it's not just optics. If you want your party to accomplish anything, or if you want your party to stop the other one from doing stupid things, you need to win elections.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:13 PM
I don't want her either but I heard an interesting theory on the radio. Apparently the left is worried that Bloomberg will run as an independent, thus opening the door for Palin with a Pub controlled house.

Politics suck.

For that theory to have any validity, Sarah Palin would have to win the GOP nomination, and there's lots of campaigning before that happens.

Would Bloomberg run as an Indy? Normally, that's a stupid decision because the Indy won't get 10%. BUT, if in two years, Obama is badly discredited and the GOP nominates someone polarizing like Palin -- I could see a third party run as a very creditable alternative.

Bloomberg himself though is so NY-style abrasive and so far left-of-center that it's hard to see him attracting votes from the center -- which could very well mean that he would seal-the-deal for the Republicans.

If so, welcome to the race Mr Mayor!

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:20 PM
Karl Rove pretty much put Palin in her place today I thought

"There are high standards that the American people have for it (the presidency) and they require a certain level of gravitas," Rove said, "and they want to look at the candidate and say, 'That candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world.'"

I am really turning against Rove. He seems to be one of those establishment Republicans who wants the hayseed Red Stater masses to vote for his guys, who coincidentally have spent their lives in country clubs and ivy-league halls.

And if he's right about "high standards" and "gravitas," then how does he explain two-terms of Bill Clinton?

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:25 PM
Why would she run for prez? For people popular in the Republican Party, there is more money and more power (domestically) by getting a show on Fox News. She might not ever be the queen, but she can be a kingmaker.

She get's loads and loads of media attention for one reason only, the Dems are scared sh*tless that Palin will be the next President.

Her visibility, power and influence instantly deflate to irrelevancy if/when she announces that she will not make a run.

So even if she only wants to do reality TV, write books and make money, she has to keep the charade alive. Politics sucks?

Scott D
10/29/2010, 08:30 PM
She's the one who claimed that politics sucked on her own Discovery Channel "special"

landrun
10/29/2010, 08:31 PM
...

I am really turning against Rove. He seems to be one of those establishment Republicans who wants the hayseed Red Stater masses to vote for his guys, who coincidentally have spent their lives in country clubs and ivy-league halls.


That's all he is.

He's part of the problem. And he has pretty much ended O'Donnell's chance of winning Delaware the way he threw her under the bus. In spite of how goofy she is and that she's had no help from the Repub establishment, she's now almost within the margin of error in a very liberal state.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:41 PM
So, are you saying that a white state senator from a midwestern state who graduated from Columbia University, did some community service work before heading to law school, was selected president of the Harvard Law Review, worked part time as a law professor while serving in the State House, and was elected to the U.S. Senate isn't qualified to be president?

Yes, that's what I am saying.

In the White House, what college you went to counts for nada. I'm sure he was chairman of the student council at his middle school, but that doesn't help him any, either.

So let's dismiss his "academic credentials."

Regarding the Illinois General Assembly - Being a junior state legislator gives you a little bit of insight into governing, so I will grant him that. But serving in any legislative body is poor preparation for the kind of immediate, executive decision making required of the Commander-in-Chief. Normally, serving in the state house would at least have provided some purely political context (campaigning in precincts that are initially hostile to you, reaching out to the middle to attract more votes, etc), but even here, Obama was shortchanged by his specific experiences.

He occupied a very safe and overwhelmingly far-left leaning district, so he never had a need to reach out to differing view-points, or to compromise to maintain his re-election viability. And in his first run, he managed to eliminate ALL of his Dem rivals through electoral technicalities, and thus was basically unopposed.

He was elected statewide to the US Senate, but as soon as he got there he started running for president, and he was only there for less than two years, anyway. And I stated my views about legislatures as prep for the presidency earlier.

It's true that Sarah Palin was badly inexperienced when she ran as McCain's running mate, but she was running for second banana. Obama was arguably no better qualified than Palin, and he was running at the top of the ticket, and I never understood why McCain didn't draw this contrast more sharply.

EDIT: virginiasooner: I obviously misread your post to apply to B H Obama, not some white guy. But my criticism of Obama's lack of experience still stands.

KC//CRIMSON
10/29/2010, 08:42 PM
Go ahead and let her be president, she'll just quit half way through her term.

tommieharris91
10/29/2010, 08:47 PM
He's part of the problem. And he has pretty much ended O'Donnell's chance of winning Delaware the way he threw her under the bus.
Nah, she did that herself.

In spite of how goofy she is and that she's had no help from the Repub establishment, she's now almost within the margin of error in a very liberal state.
Nope. (http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/delaware)

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:47 PM
That's all he is.

He's part of the problem. And he has pretty much ended O'Donnell's chance of winning Delaware the way he threw her under the bus. In spite of how goofy she is and that she's had no help from the Repub establishment, she's now almost within the margin of error in a very liberal state.

You are partly right. Once she won, the Repub establishment (GOP Senate campaign arm and Nat Republican Party) had to help her, and she's had big infusions of cash to counter what the Dems are spending.

It would have been 1000 times better if Rove had just kept his trap shut, said something analytical like "I think Castle had a better shot at being elected, and she'll have an uphill fight, but I wish her luck."

What I can't stand in the GOP are these holier than thou's that think if their rich, white guy (or that write-in female Senator in Alaska, can't ever remeber her name) don't win, then they are going to burn down the house.

Crist, Castle, the Alaskan, it's ridiculous. Arlen Spector is another good example. It happens quite a bit in House races, but is lower visibility.

If you lose, shut up, take it, and work to recover your career as opportunities arise. The party's been there for you for decades, maybe you need to take one for the party yourself.

Scott D
10/29/2010, 08:51 PM
maybe the parties need to take one for the American people.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:51 PM
I voted for Obama for a lot of reasons. His being black was not one of them. But there was no way on God's Green Earth that I would have voted for McCain after he picked Know Nothing Sarah Palin. If Mc Cain had picked one the Maine Senators, or perhaps Christie Todd Whitman, he would have shown he wasn't beholden to the crazies, and may have picked up a couple more states -- maybe even made it a contest. But McCain created a monster -- Palin got a dose of the taste of fame, and now she's addicted to it and we all have to suffer.

Dude, you just listed the two most liberal Republicans in the United States Senate (and two fairly liberal Senators overall), and one of the most liberal national figures in the GOP. So what you are saying is maybe you have voted for McCain if he (as expressed through his VP choice) was a liberal?

Just satisfy yourself that you had one rock solid lefty on the ballot. You all managed to do enough damage with that.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 08:53 PM
And his VP nominee is perhaps the worst POS to ever run for that office.

Maybe, but there have been a lot of d**chebags run for VP.

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 09:00 PM
Nah, she did that herself.

Nope. (http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/delaware)

Wow! 0% chance of winning. Even factoring in the NYT's "editorial bias" leaves that looking pretty one sided. But even you can agree that Karl Rove taunting her during her victory party was not helpful.

Kinda funny how VP Joe's boy bowed out of the race because he didn't think he could beat Castle. Now his political career is all but done!

King Barry's Back
10/29/2010, 09:03 PM
maybe the parties need to take one for the American people.

If you believe that elections, including primary elections, reflect the will of the American people, then we are arguing exactly the same thing.

StoopTroup
10/29/2010, 10:52 PM
I think a good number of us if given the chance would walk into Congrees as a group and as we watched each of them legislate...we would fix things like a dance marathon and vote on the next person to tap on the shoulder and go back Home to his/her state. Kind of a trial by your peers.

SoonerNate
10/29/2010, 11:07 PM
Why is the left so obsessed with Palin?

JohnnyMack
10/30/2010, 08:15 AM
Wow! 0% chance of winning. Even factoring in the NYT's "editorial bias" leaves that looking pretty one sided. But even you can agree that Karl Rove taunting her during her victory party was not helpful.

Kinda funny how VP Joe's boy bowed out of the race because he didn't think he could beat Castle. Now his political career is all but done!

Nate Silver (who wasn't part of the NYT during 2008). Nailed the '08 elections with his number crunching technique. I'd be surprised if he missed this one.

OUthunder
10/30/2010, 11:13 AM
Teresa Heinz is an even bigger dooshbag than Hillary. That's saying a lot.

StoopTroup
10/30/2010, 11:15 AM
Teresa Heinz is an even bigger dooshbag than Hillary. That's saying a lot.

And thank God she pays Politicians instead of thinking she should run for office.

Scott D
10/30/2010, 12:26 PM
Why is the left so obsessed with Palin?

Why is SoonerNate so obsessed with Obama?

Why is RushLimbaughismyClone so obsessed with Wildebeast mating rituals?

Some things are just best unanswered.

fadada1
10/30/2010, 01:00 PM
If you all can't find anyone...let me know...LOL


WASHINGTON — Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin gave the strongest indication yet that she is preparing a 2012 White House bid, saying Thursday she would run for president "if there is nobody else to do it."


love the commitment. :rolleyes:

StoopTroup
10/30/2010, 01:06 PM
Why is SoonerNate so obsessed with Obama?

Why is RushLimbaughismyClone so obsessed with Wildebeast mating rituals?

Some things are just best unanswered.

I think it's just ritlin levels and he should be OK in a week or so.

SanJoaquinSooner
10/30/2010, 04:18 PM
The difference is, Reagan was pretty much done with being Hollywood Reagan, and didn't quit in the middle of being Governor because mean people were picking on him. Palin's too busy wanting to be a tee vee star right now.

You may be right about Reagan, but only partly right about Palin.

I don't think she resigned to escape mean people. She resigned to escape an audience of moose and grizzlies for The Show. She chose to sieze the moment. ... if she was to be the leader of a political movement, it wouldn't get done in hangin in Alaska.

I don't believe the mean people got anything to stick.