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nBoSTP
10/19/2010, 08:08 AM
all the backlash against the sooners moving up to number 1 in the bcs poll. should oklahoma apoligize for playing Florida St. instead of Portland St? All Oklahoma did was win their games. They didn't campaign to be number 1. I dont remember hearing Bob Stoops go on TV like Mack Brown and say hey remember this game or that game before you vote. The only reason they moved up in the human polls is because Ohio St. and Nebraska lost. They didn't jump Boise in the human polls. Thats okay I want ESPN to keep saying that Oklahoma doesn't deserve to be number 1 cuz that is only going to continue to stir the hornets nest that is brewing in Norman as we speak.

Soonerwake
10/19/2010, 08:13 AM
I really enjoyed Mr. Bachelor saying that the human polls are better than the computers because they take into account "style points". WTF???

So, that is better than the completely subjective nature of human polls, coaches voting their own conference, writers voting ther region, alma-mater, etc...

Ridiculous..

RedstickSooner
10/19/2010, 08:15 AM
Maybe they shouldn't release the BCS at all 'til the end of the season. All this teeth gnashing is retarded.

We're the only undefeated team with a really top-shelf win. How is that our "fault"?

Maybe our problem is that we *aren't* campaigning. Maybe we should be going before the reporters every day bitching that we're the only quality team with a quality win, yet the pollsters have us below teams that haven't beaten anyone worth a pitcher of spit.

SoonerPride
10/19/2010, 08:19 AM
Stop. Watching. ESPN.

King Barry's Back
10/19/2010, 08:22 AM
all the backlash against the sooners moving up to number 1 in the bcs poll. should oklahoma apoligize for playing Florida St. instead of Portland St? All Oklahoma did was win their games. They didn't campaign to be number 1. I dont remember hearing Bob Stoops go on TV like Mack Brown and say hey remember this game or that game before you vote. The only reason they moved up in the human polls is because Ohio St. and Nebraska lost. They didn't jump Boise in the human polls. Thats okay I want ESPN to keep saying that Oklahoma doesn't deserve to be number 1 cuz that is only going to continue to stir the hornets nest that is brewing in Norman as we speak.

What backlash? Anyway, it's all irrelevant. It doesn't matter what we do or don't deserve (that's an opinion) are ranked #1. That's a fact. And besides, it's October.

By the end of the year, if we are undefeated, we will be in the BCS Championship and no one will have much ammo to keep us out.

Lawton4Life
10/19/2010, 08:22 AM
They're just tired of it always being Oklahoma. Old news = no news. They want ratings. I'm not sure that Jesse Palmer really cares either way, they just want people to watch. They sure werent talking about style points when it was 77-0. If there is no controversy, Joe Bob in BFE will change the channel and that's what they dont want.

OUby35
10/19/2010, 08:29 AM
The way this works is a combination of team value i.e. potential revenue of the school in question and which network has a deal signed with them. For example, ESPN/ABC has a contract with the SEC and FOX has one with the Big12. On top of that if you can stir up controversy then you can get more ratings and make more $$$. On ESPN that’s why the SEC will be rated higher than other conferences unless they are absolutely horrible. If they can talk trash about Big12 schools and get people interested to see what Skip Bayless might say next about OU then they can generate more views, clicks, and conversions for their sponsors. This also explains why teams like Notre Dame despite being irrelevant in the BCS have so much TV time. Catholics all over the world see them as their team so they can generate revenue so they have bargaining power.
http://www.businesspundit.com/the-12-most-valuable-teams-in-ncaa-football/

Half a Hundred
10/19/2010, 08:33 AM
The Football Show needs controversy to keep people watching. Oklahoma's an easy whipping boy because we're college football royalty, though we haven't passed the "what have you done for me lately" test recently. Same as in the Switzer era, the national media handles our success the best when we're the "black hats." It's nothing personal.

SoonerNutt
10/19/2010, 08:43 AM
Maybe they shouldn't release the BCS at all 'til the end of the season. All this teeth gnashing is retarded.

We're the only undefeated team with a really top-shelf win. How is that our "fault"?

Maybe our problem is that we *aren't* campaigning. Maybe we should be going before the reporters every day bitching that we're the only quality team with a quality win, yet the pollsters have us below teams that haven't beaten anyone worth a pitcher of spit.

That's what Mack Brown would be doing. Hell, he has two losses, and that IS STILL what he is doing.

Personally, I'd rather our coaches just go out and concentrate on the football end of the business. Maybe we could assign a marketing specialist from the Athletic Department to run a continual media-blitz campaign for us and just let the coaches coach.

yermom
10/19/2010, 08:52 AM
if we win this weekend, they will be on board

i'm sure they love us jumping to #1 like that despite being #3 and #4 in the poles, since it gives them something to talk about it

if we weren't about to play #11 on the road, i'd be afraid the voters might drop us to keep who they want at the top though

BoulderSooner79
10/19/2010, 10:14 AM
if we win this weekend, they will be on board

i'm sure they love us jumping to #1 like that despite being #3 and #4 in the poles, since it gives them something to talk about it

if we weren't about to play #11 on the road, i'd be afraid the voters might drop us to keep who they want at the top though

Exactly. I don't see a backlash - just discussion and that's the strength of the BCS (unless you don't like discussion). And all the questions about OUr team are valid - and they all get answered if we go on the road and win this weekend. Then we are the bandwagon team or at least one of them.

mightysooner
10/19/2010, 10:19 AM
They're not tired of Oklahoma anything. They're just using us to stir up the BCS controversy.

soonerchk
10/19/2010, 10:19 AM
Honestly, I don't feel like we're any good until the media starts hating on us. Last year was sooo boring with no one paying any attention to us. All this hate makes me feel like we're back where we belong.

THE-JROD
10/19/2010, 10:20 AM
As an OU fan, that is the worst thing you can do is listen to those espn c*cksuckers....All that is gonna happen is we will get all fired up and rant and rave...we just need to let our sooners do the talking and then get the last word in at the end of the year!

OU_Sooners75
10/19/2010, 10:21 AM
all the backlash against the sooners moving up to number 1 in the bcs poll. should oklahoma apoligize for playing Florida St. instead of Portland St? All Oklahoma did was win their games. They didn't campaign to be number 1. I dont remember hearing Bob Stoops go on TV like Mack Brown and say hey remember this game or that game before you vote. The only reason they moved up in the human polls is because Ohio St. and Nebraska lost. They didn't jump Boise in the human polls. Thats okay I want ESPN to keep saying that Oklahoma doesn't deserve to be number 1 cuz that is only going to continue to stir the hornets nest that is brewing in Norman as we speak.


The BCS Polls and the computers are not giving us any backlash.

The Media, yeah, we are not one of their media darlings...and that should not bother you...but the BCS has it correct and it will work itself out by season's end.

We win, it doesnt matter what anyone says about us. We lose, then they will just say, "told you so."

Who cares! Just win!

agoo758
10/19/2010, 10:22 AM
Stop. Watching. ESPN.

I have ESPN blocked for everyday except Saturday.

3rdgensooner
10/19/2010, 10:23 AM
Our awesomeness hurts their feelers.

Sooner in Tampa
10/19/2010, 11:43 AM
Who cares! Just win!


^^^ THIS

UberSooner
10/19/2010, 11:49 AM
The media don't have a big East team or an ACC team to fanblow this year so its all about the SEC. There is very little drama in the big 12 as its always the OU/shorthorn show. Cornhuskers implosion the same weekend we broke out #1 only makes it worse for those assclowns.

fwsooner22
10/19/2010, 11:51 AM
I have ESPN blocked for everyday except Saturday.

That's Perfect......

FirstandGoal
10/19/2010, 11:51 AM
Maybe this will help with understanding....

There are 2 kinds of people in the world:

1. Sooners
2. Everyone else

Seeing as the second category has a whole lot more people in it, its a logical assumption that there's gonna be a lot of bitching whenever we hit #1.

I could give 2 ****s about what "they" say about us as long as we keep winning. :P

soonerchk
10/19/2010, 11:55 AM
You know what I'm not understanding? How did some of these crappy conferences get automatic BCS bids in the first place? *looking at you Big East and ACC*

BoulderSooner79
10/19/2010, 12:08 PM
You know what I'm not understanding? How did some of these crappy conferences get automatic BCS bids in the first place? *looking at you Big East and ACC*

By joining the BCS and paying conference dues?

soonerchk
10/19/2010, 12:09 PM
By joining the BCS and paying conference dues?

I bet the Mountain West would be happy to join up and pay some dues.

BoulderSooner79
10/19/2010, 12:40 PM
I bet the Mountain West would be happy to join up and pay some dues.

I suspect there are some qualifications beyond dues they don't meet.

Crucifax Autumn
10/19/2010, 12:41 PM
Somewhere a dog is chasing his own tail. He will never catch it.

3rdgensooner
10/19/2010, 12:46 PM
I bet the Mountain West would be happy to join up and pay some dues.


I suspect there are some qualifications beyond dues they don't meet.Here's some pertinent info:

BCS Future Automatic Qualification Standards (http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=5126859)

Under the terms of the agreements with the bowls and television rightsholder, the ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 and SEC will have annual automatic qualification for their champions for the 2010-11, 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons.

Results from the 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 regular seasons will be evaluated to determine whether a seventh conference earns automatic qualification for the 2012-13 and 2013-14 bowl games. The process is as follows:

*The evaluation includes the following for each conference (1) the ranking of the highest-ranked team in the final BCS Standings each year (if a conference does not place a team in the final BCS Standings, then its highest-ranked team is determined by the conference member that has the highest average ranking in the computer rankings used in the BCS Standings), (2) the final regular-season rankings of all conference teams in the computer rankings used by the BCS each year, and (3) the number of teams in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year, with adjustments to account for differences in the number of members of each conference.

A conference will become the seventh automatic qualifier if it finishes among the top six conferences in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 50 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.

*Further, a conference will be eligible to apply to the Presidential Oversight Committee for an exemption if it finishes among the top six in both No. 1 and No. 2 and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3, OR

If it finishes among the top seven in either No. 1 or No. 2 and among the top five in the other and if its ranking in No. 3 is equal to or greater than 33.3 percent of the conference with the highest ranking in No. 3.

No. 3 above, the "Top 25 Performance Rating," will be calculated as follows: Points will be awarded to the conferences based on their teams' finishes in the top 25 of the final BCS Standings each year. Points will be awarded as follows:

Teams finishing 1-6: 4 points for each team
Teams finishing 7-12: 3 points for each team
Teams finishing 13-18: 2 points for each team
Teams finishing 19-25: 1 point for each team

The point totals will be adjusted to account for the size of the conference, as follows:

Conference membership | Adjustment
12 or more members | no adjustment
10 or 11 members | points increased by 12.5 percent
9 or fewer members | points increased by 25 percent

*The computations will be made according to the conference's membership on Dec. 4, 2011.

Lawton4Life
10/19/2010, 12:47 PM
Maybe this will help with understanding....

There are 2 kinds of people in the world:

1. Sooners
2. Everyone else

Seeing as the second category has a whole lot more people in it, its a logical assumption that there's gonna be a lot of bitching whenever we hit #1.

I could give 2 ****s about what "they" say about us as long as we keep winning. :P

I like this explanation. People are, for the most part, stupid.

soonerboomer93
10/19/2010, 12:53 PM
So a couple weeks back, we're at friday lunch. My co-worker starts bitching and complaining about the polls, the BCS. He doesn't even watch college football, doesn't care about it, but they're starting a rant.

Me: Why do you think the BCS is so bad
Him: They're always talking about it, blah, blah, blah
Me: You do realize, that the E in ESPN stands for Entertainment

Yeah, that was game over.

stoopified
10/19/2010, 02:08 PM
What backlash? Anyway, it's all irrelevant. It doesn't matter what we do or don't deserve (that's an opinion) are ranked #1. That's a fact. And besides, it's October.

By the end of the year, if we are undefeated, we will be in the BCS Championship and no one will have much ammo to keep us out.Every talking head out there seems to be screaming about the INJUSTICE,and a Sports Nation national poll only 13 % think OU is a deserving #1.

BoulderSooner79
10/19/2010, 02:26 PM
Every talking head out there seems to be screaming about the INJUSTICE,and a Sports Nation national poll only 13 % think OU is a deserving #1.

Yeah, but 99% all agree OU should be #4 or higher. Hardly disrespect for the first BCS rating of the year.

Crimson Kid
10/19/2010, 02:34 PM
Let them keep dissing OUr boys. It makes the chip that much bigger and harder to knock off.

soonercastor
10/19/2010, 02:39 PM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/529676/haters_gonna_hate.gif

Salt City Sooner
10/19/2010, 03:05 PM
Maybe they shouldn't release the BCS at all 'til the end of the season. All this teeth gnashing is retarded.

We're the only undefeated team with a really top-shelf win. How is that our "fault"?

Maybe our problem is that we *aren't* campaigning. Maybe we should be going before the reporters every day bitching that we're the only quality team with a quality win, yet the pollsters have us below teams that haven't beaten anyone worth a pitcher of spit.
Oregon would have an issue with that statement. Thing is though, the rest of their schedule has sucked golf ball through a garden hose hard (although you can't blame them for Tennessee, that's usually a solid OOC opponent).

nBoSTP
10/19/2010, 03:38 PM
I live in Pennsylvania and I had a guy bitching about why Oklahoma jumped ahead of Boise and Oregon. Finally I said to him look I am sorry the Oklahoma plays a tough out of conference schedule every year and wins enough games to keep them atop the BCS standings every year while your Nittany Lions have 4 losses by the end of October leaving you with nothing to bitch about except other people's teams.

Scott D
10/19/2010, 03:44 PM
If I want BCS information from ESPN I'll mute everyone other than Brad Edwards.

Spritekid
10/19/2010, 03:46 PM
I bet the Mountain West would be happy to join up and pay some dues.


Bet they would now HAHAHAHA!!!! Suck it!!!! You can't just pay when it's convenient.

SoonerNation20
10/19/2010, 03:47 PM
if we win this weekend, they will be on board

I'm predicting that if we win BIG this weekend, they'll just say that Mizzou was unproven, and not as good as what everyone thought. If we barely squeek by, they'll still say that Mizzou was not as good as what people thought, AND that OU showed it's true colors by barely beating a mediocre Mizzou team. Man, I should be an ESPN analyst.

BoulderSooner79
10/19/2010, 03:51 PM
I'm predicting that if we win BIG this weekend, they'll just say that Mizzou was unproven, and not as good as what everyone thought. If we barely squeek by, they'll still say that Mizzou was not as good as what people thought, AND that OU showed it's true colors by barely beating a mediocre Mizzou team. Man, I should be an ESPN analyst.

I'd bet the other way. We'll be bitching about how they are hangin' on our jockstraps like they were 'Bama's a couple weeks back.

Whet
10/19/2010, 03:57 PM
I was watching CBS Sports Wrapup during their discussion of the BCS rankings, where the announcer referred to the number one team as "those hated Oklahoma Sooners."

ouwasp
10/19/2010, 04:57 PM
Honestly, I don't feel like we're any good until the media starts hating on us. Last year was sooo boring with no one paying any attention to us. All this hate makes me feel like we're back where we belong.

Good point!! spek

Salt City Sooner
10/19/2010, 05:08 PM
I was watching CBS Sports Wrapup during their discussion of the BCS rankings, where the announcer referred to the number one team as "those hated Oklahoma Sooners."
Was it Brian Jones? If it was, remember, he's a 'horn (& actually one that I like, he's painfully blunt, & can be pretty humorous at times).

PDXsooner
10/19/2010, 05:12 PM
The day anyone stops watching ESPN will be the day hell freezes over. I don't buy that anyone doesn't actually watch ESPN if you are indeed a sports fan. I just don't believe it. You are lying.

soonerchk
10/19/2010, 05:18 PM
I was watching CBS Sports Wrapup during their discussion of the BCS rankings, where the announcer referred to the number one team as "those hated Oklahoma Sooners."

Spencer Tillman will set them straight.


Good point!! spek

Yay! I'm still new enough to get excited about that.;)

Scott D
10/19/2010, 05:38 PM
was it Brian Jones?