defensive holding

[JLEW1818]

i thought this was an automatic first down?

[BermudaSooner]

me too. was surprised on that.

[S.PadreIsl.Sooner]

I think its different when its behind the line of scrimmage.

[VA Sooner]

I thought it was a first down too. Will have to look it up...

[Leroy Lizard]

I thought that was one of differences between pass interference and defensive holding, that the former was an automatic first down but not the latter.

[CrimsonJim]

It is an automatic first down, in the pros. Saw it called today in the Eagles/Skins game.

[Frozen Sooner]

i thought this was an automatic first down?

As did I, as I mentioned in an earlier thread.

According the the NCAA rulebook, defensive holding is indeed an automatic first down:

I. During a legal forward pass that crosses the neutral zone, B1 holds
eligible A1 who is beyond the neutral zone. The pass is not catchable
by A1. RULING: Team B foul, holding. Penalty—10 yards at the
previous spot and first down.
II. Before a legal forward pass that crosses the neutral zone is thrown,
Team B holds eligible A1, who is beyond the neutral zone. RULING:
Team B foul, holding. Penalty—10 yards and first down, previousspot
enforcement

[tulsaoilerfan]

There must be another application of it where you only get 5 yards?

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, I think I'm using an outdated rulebook. I seem to remember they were trying out 10 yards from the previous spot last year for whatever reason. Looked all through last year's rulebook and couldn't find a 5 yarder.

I'll look at this year's real quick.

[Frozen Sooner]

Crap. The link for the new rulebook is broken.

[panhandlesooner]

It might be that Murray was not past the neutral zone ,,,? not a statement.

[JLEW1818]

so will the big12 have a formal announcement that they are wrong? am i wrong? confused

[Frozen Sooner]

It might be that Murray was not past the neutral zone ,,,? not a statement.

Or that the pass didn't cross the neutral zone. Which seems likely. That makes sense.