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FaninAma
9/28/2010, 11:16 AM
http://ampedstatus.com/word-from-the-watchtower-a-hard-rain-is-going-to-fall-introduction-to-the-road-through-2012-revolution-or-world-war-iii

Pretty radical stuff but, sad to say, probably pretty accurate.

How many of you partisans on the left and right really stop to think about what your party is really doing for you and this country? You seem to be caught up in the media driven finger-pointing game that is nothing but a distraction to keep people from thinking critically about the direction the power-elites want to take us.

OklahomaTuba
9/28/2010, 11:45 AM
So what you're saying is buy gold, right?

pilobolus
9/28/2010, 11:57 AM
We need to vote out all incumbents and start government from scratch, get rid of all the lawyers, as well as dismantle the banks and corporations.

It's the hegelian dialectic. One agenda formulated behind closed doors by the elite and pushed by two marginally different parties with the leaders mere ceremonial figureheads who give the illusion they wield power.

TheHumanAlphabet
9/28/2010, 12:31 PM
Pass a law requiring all politicians to be nonlawyers and regular people. Make a test if you earn more than X amount of money (income or trust fund) then you are not eligible to run for office. Allow for a certain number of TV ads or paper column inches of free political adverts (some reasonable, small number) and print a set of questions to the issues (federal or local) and let the voters then decide.

tommieharris91
9/28/2010, 12:42 PM
Pass a law requiring all politicians to be nonlawyers and regular people. Make a test if you earn more than X amount of money (income or trust fund) then you are not eligible to run for office. Allow for a certain number of TV ads or paper column inches of free political adverts (some reasonable, small number) and print a set of questions to the issues (federal or local) and let the voters then decide.

The US Constitution would like to have a word with you.

ETA: I'd been called a socialist for posting stuff further right than this.

GrapevineSooner
9/28/2010, 12:43 PM
Not sure how much sense it would make to bar lawyers from becoming elected officials...who write laws.

I don't really care what profession somebody comes from. I only care about the ideas in their head and whether they jive with mine.

TheHumanAlphabet
9/28/2010, 12:47 PM
The US Constitution would like to have a word with you.

ETA: I'd been called a socialist for posting stuff further right than this.

Yeah, I know. If I were king for the day. And the lawyer thing is not a slam and the people of legal profession that actually ply their trade, its geared to the pinheads that can't work and go to school and law school to be politicians for life. Ban life long politicians and I would be good with that...and not just for a single position. Make position term limits and life long "political service" term limits.

tommieharris91
9/28/2010, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I know. If I were king for the day. And the lawyer thing is not a slam and the people of legal profession that actually ply their trade, its geared to the pinheads that can't work and go to school and law school to be politicians for life. Ban life long politicians and I would be good with that...and not just for a single position. Make position term limits and life long "political service" term limits.

Although not quite to the extent you want, I can agree with this. Term limits na0, plzkthx.

SanJoaquinSooner
9/28/2010, 12:50 PM
Nobody owes you a job. Buy a taco cart and start your own damned business.

Sooner_Havok
9/28/2010, 12:56 PM
better yet, let's let janitors write hospital policies, homeless draft business plans for fortune 500 companies, and english majors design our cars.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
9/28/2010, 12:59 PM
TTNWOC

Chuck Bao
9/28/2010, 01:05 PM
If the author, David DeGraw, spends so much time condensing so many news articles each day, he certainly writes in a very long-winded style. I kept reading and reading to get to the really good stuff on why he thinks we are heading to either global war or revolution or possibly both. I guess that comes later in the 7-part series being released.

I definitely disagree with him on one point. The average American today has access to more information and wide-ranging opinions than at any time in history of the US or mankind. I'm not saying that we can mentally process all of that information, like he claims to be able to, and we tend to go into our own special interest sites that largely support our already-held views.

But, I think he is right in saying that the power/elites do not want the people informed. Since they can’t control the information flow, they are trying to channel as many viewers/listeners to the mass media broadcasts that support their cause. I am saddened to see how professional journalism seems to have been replaced with one-sided opinion pieces and so many people really buying into it.

I guess the media is just like global financial markets. We originally thought that with more participants that it would become more efficient. Instead, we get more volatility and “herd instinct”. Meanwhile, the government can do nothing besides economic cheerleading. I see it as just that, not lying.

I have no doubt that we are still in an economic crisis. American labor has been severely discounted. We have lived well beyond our global competitive value and there has to be an eventual reckoning. The only thing that would spark a global war or revolution is if enough people get really hurt and are desperate. We may be heading there, but let’s pray we are not.

Oldnslo
9/28/2010, 02:17 PM
Pass a law requiring all politicians to be nonlawyers and regular people. Make a test if you earn more than X amount of money (income or trust fund) then you are not eligible to run for office. Allow for a certain number of TV ads or paper column inches of free political adverts (some reasonable, small number) and print a set of questions to the issues (federal or local) and let the voters then decide.

?

I'm a regular person.

FaninAma
9/28/2010, 02:55 PM
So what you're saying is buy gold, right?
With all due repect I could care less what you buy and sell. Although I was advising people on this board to do so when gold was about $400 an ounce.

No, this is just a thread to heap as much scorn and derision as I can on the f'd up 2 party system we operate under where the elite are entrenched in power and most citizens have either succumbed to living off the government or are still busily running in place in their little personal hamster wheels actually believing they will ever have a chance to get out from underneath their current crushing burden of personal debt and share of government taxes......or that their kids will have a chance to have a better life or more opportunities than the previous generation did.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
9/28/2010, 02:58 PM
With all due repect I could care less what you buy and sell. Although I was advising people on this board to do so when gold was about $400 an ounce.

No, this is just a thread to heap as much scorn and derision as I can on the f'd up 2 party system we operate under.Ross "the Boss" is still alive, isn't he? Write him in for something in Nov!

Blue
9/28/2010, 08:51 PM
With all due repect I could care less what you buy and sell. Although I was advising people on this board to do so when gold was about $400 an ounce.

No, this is just a thread to heap as much scorn and derision as I can on the f'd up 2 party system we operate under where the elite are entrenched in power and most citizens have either succumbed to living off the government or are still busily running in place in their little personal hamster wheels thinking they will ever have a chance to get out from underneath their current crushing burden of personal debt and government taxes......or that their kids will have a chance to have a better life or more opportunities than the previous generation did.

Well said. I completely agree.

bluedogok
9/28/2010, 10:30 PM
Not sure how much sense it would make to bar lawyers from becoming elected officials...who write laws.

I don't really care what profession somebody comes from. I only care about the ideas in their head and whether they jive with mine.
Doesn't seem to matter much to the lawyers that get elected, the lobbyists write the bills for them....and they do so in such a poor way that it seems they were bad lawyers as well.

A bunch of lawyers also gave us the let's pass this bill and see what's in it mess.

FaninAma
9/29/2010, 09:09 AM
One of the things we could do as voters is start demanding that current and former CEO's of the large banks and their insurers that had to be rescued to the tune of over a trillion dollars be held accountable as well as the government employees who headed agencies like the SEC and FDIC at the time these crimes were being committed.

Apparently if you are a low level county government official who embezzles $2000 you are prosecuted to the full extent of the law but if you are one of the well entrenched power elites you can get hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars from currrent and future taxpayers for acting unethically and illegally without a single consequence other than retiring with a multi-million dollar retirement package.

I know one day my kids will ask me why my generation handed over the country to them in such terrible shape and I won't have an answer for them except that we sucked at holding our "leaders" responsible for doing what they were supposed to do. In other words we took the easy way out because we were too busy worrying about maxing out our credit cards and looking for new ways to be entertained.

A ponzi scheme, like the one on which our government and economy is built, can only continue as long as it finds new suckers to keep it going.