2 Silly Little months

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=yrATS4mthX4

[SicEmBaylor]

Was this guy ranting like that when Bush was in office who, by the way, had virtually the exact same immigration policy? Did he scream like that when Bush refused to pardon two border patrol agents who were doing their job trying to stop an illegal drug runner?

I'm not saying Obama is any better (he isn't), but Bush ought not get a pass.

[SicEmBaylor]

The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.

[StoopTroup]

The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.

It's why I'm not completely believing that Obama can be scared out of office.

Whoever is going to beat him better have something else in their bag or tricks. Barry will not go easy into the night IMO.

[SicEmBaylor]

It's why I'm not completely believing that Obama can be scared out of office.

Whoever is going to beat him better have something else in their bag or tricks. Barry will not go easy into the night IMO.

No he's not. People like Tuba who keep calling him a "1 term President" are getting way way way the hell ahead of themselves. It's still a long way to 2012 and honest to God who, on the GOP side, has the appeal, star power, and gravitas to win the Presidency? I can't think of any. There is a serious leadership vacuum in the GOP right now, and I don't know who can fill it.

[StoopTroup]

No he's not. People like Tuba who keep calling him a "1 term President" are getting way way way the hell ahead of themselves. It's still a long way to 2012 and honest to God who, on the GOP side, has the appeal, star power, and gravitas to win the Presidency? I can't think of any. There is a serious leadership vacuum in the GOP right now, and I don't know who can fill it.

I agree totally.

[GKeeper316]

because the leaders of the modern republican party (limbaugh and beck) dont care about public policy, and having a pub in the white house is actually contrary to what they are really after... your hard earned cash.

[StoopTroup]

And gold....lol

http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/preset_12/Beck-300x200.jpg

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Was this guy ranting like that when Bush was in office who, by the way, had virtually the exact same immigration policy? Did he scream like that when Bush refused to pardon two border patrol agents who were doing their job trying to stop an illegal drug runner?

I'm not saying Obama is any better (he isn't), but Bush ought not get a pass.You're delusional to believe many conservatives(true, neocon, semi, whatever type of conservatives)were happy with the things you mentioned about Bush.

[SicEmBaylor]

You're delusional to believe many conservatives(true, neocon, semi, whatever type of conservatives)were happy with the things you mentioned about Bush.

I didn't say they were happy -- I'm saying they gave him a pass which they did until MAYBE the final few months. Where were these giant rallies of conservatives screaming to the heavens about Bush increasing the size of the Federal government?

Like I said, it's a truly astounding display of hypocrisy. And what it shows is that, in the end, for most it has nothing to do with conviction and everything to do with being a cheerleader for the party.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I didn't say they were happy -- I'm saying they gave him a pass which they did until MAYBE the final few months. Where were these giant rallies of conservatives screaming to the heavens about Bush increasing the size of the Federal government?

Like I said, it's a truly astounding display of hypocrisy. And what it shows is that, in the end, for most it has nothing to do with conviction and everything to do with being a cheerleader for the party.You can't work up a widespread fervor against someone who's right about some things, and not as severely wrong about practically anything as those folks in the D party, who stand for things in their platform that are socialist and authoritarian, being wrong about virtually everything, like the gang running the country now. YOU EFFING KNOW THAT. Stop acting so clueless, or naive!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw&feature=player_embedded

[ddub0224]

The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.

Hypocrisy is also portrayed by those who screamed about Bush being out of control yet blindly defend Obama at the very mention of his name -- even though Obama not only picked up where Bush left off, but jumped on the accelerator.

[SicEmBaylor]

You can't work up a widespread fervor against someone who's right about some things, and not as severely wrong about practically anything as those folks in the D party, who stand for things in their platform that are socialist and authoritarian, being wrong about virtually everything, like the gang running the country now. YOU EFFING KNOW THAT. Stop acting so clueless, or naive!

I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.Nobody's giving him a pass. If you think W was/is even remotely near as loony left as our current president(and it appears you do) then, bully for you. I didn't see you and your purists rallying in protest. Only saw goofy leftists demonstrating. So, are there any democrats you're going to vote for in Nov?

[soonerscuba]

I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.We're pretty much opposite sides of the same coin. I don't like Obama precisely because he pretty much carried on the lion's share of Bush's astoundingly stupid policy. I think Obama is a smart and good man, and certainly a role-model for stability and good standing among the black population, but that doesn't mean he's a good president. Unless it's Palin or some equally anti-intellectual, hypocritical blowhard (looking at you Newt), I'm being staying home Nov 2012, so when the bitter end finally comes I can say that I stayed out of it. Republicans nor Democrats have shown they have the ability or desire to push policy that does anything more than protect corporate interest, estate taxes are intuitively wise and individually mandated handouts to insurance companies via reconciliation isn't a "first step", it's retarded.

[SicEmBaylor]

Hypocrisy is also portrayed by those who screamed about Bush being out of control yet blindly defend Obama at the very mention of his name -- even though Obama not only picked up where Bush left off, but jumped on the accelerator.

Good point.

[SicEmBaylor]

Nobody's giving him a pass. If you think W was/is even remotely near as loony left as our current president(and it appears you do) then, bully for you. I didn't see you and your purists rallying in protest. Only saw goofy leftists demonstrating. So, are there any democrats you're going to vote for in Nov?

Philosophically, there's no doubt Obama is much further to the left than Bush. Purely on policy though there's very little difference between the two.

In any case, you may not have seen me, but I was out there screaming to the heavens about Bush to anyone who would listen. In fact, I can tell you the last straw when Bush totally lost me as a supporter...it was the prescription drug program. Specifically, I was at a convention of a political organization I belonged to in college and we were having lunch with Rep. Pete Sessions. He was attempting to defend his vote in favor of the drug program and even tried, ridiculously, to defend it as being in the best interest of conservatism. That's when I found out about the strong-arm tactics used by DeLay and the rest of the GOP leadership to manipulate and threaten conservative members of congress into voting for the bill. That's when I totally lost any faith I had in the national Republican Party. Ever since then I've spent my time supporting legitimate conservatives and screaming to the heavens about the ills of the GOP.

What the Republican Party needs is a purge. I'm talking a Stalin like purge of so called "big government conservatives", neocons, and the radical evangelicals. I'm talking blood in the streets style purges. The reality is that there are TONS of good conservatives out there and in the party on the local and state level, but the national GOP leadership needs to be totally and completely purged. Currently there are only 3 members of the Senate who deserve the honor of being called a conservative and those members are Tom Coburn, Jim DeMint, and Jeff Sessions. Plus, there's a dozen or so in the house but that's it. The party apparatus itself needs to be purged starting with Michael Steele all the way down to the janitors at RNC HQ.

Off with their f'in heads.

[SicEmBaylor]

We're pretty much opposite sides of the same coin. I don't like Obama precisely because he pretty much carried on the lion's share of Bush's astoundingly stupid policy. I think Obama is a smart and good man, and certainly a role-model for stability and good standing among the black population, but that doesn't mean he's a good president. Unless it's Palin or some equally anti-intellectual, hypocritical blowhard (looking at you Newt), I'm being staying home Nov 2012, so when the bitter end finally comes I can say that I stayed out of it. Republicans nor Democrats have shown they have the ability or desire to push policy that does anything more than protect corporate interest, estate taxes are intuitively wise and individually mandated handouts to insurance companies via reconciliation isn't a "first step", it's retarded.

I agree with every word of this, though as long as I am able to vote for a Libertarian alternative then I won't sit the election out.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I agree with every word of this, though as long as I am able to vote for a Libertarian alternative then I won't sit the election out.You and cuba are on the same team, whether you like it or not.

[SicEmBaylor]

You and cuba are on the same team, whether you like it or not.

Mark Cuban? I couldn't care less one way or the other.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Mark Cuban? I couldn't care less one way or the other.There ya go!

[OklahomaTuba]

Purely on policy though there's very little difference between the two.

That's comedy gold right there.

Exactly how many car companies, student loan programs, mortgage industries, health care systems or financial systems did Bush attempt to nationalize???

Get a clue man. The difference between the two policy wise couldn't be greater, which is why Dear Leader is imploding and taking the entire democratic party with him in less than two years.

[Mjcpr]

That's comedy gold right there.

Exactly how many car companies, student loan programs, mortgage industries, health care systems or financial systems did Bush attempt to nationalize???

I thought his $700 billion bailout included, at least, the Financial sector and specifically those firms dealing with mortgage backed securities. :confused:

[OklahomaTuba]

I thought his $700 billion bailout included, at least, the Financial sector and specifically those firms dealing with mortgage backed securities. :confused:Well went to shore up the banks to keep them from failing. Not sure that really would've happened, but i'd rather glad we didn't have to find out. (although it appears 400 banks may fail in the short term now)

but that was a hell of a lot different than the trillions we now on the hook for with the perpetual bailouts of fannie mae and freddie mac, finreg, tarp 2, etc.

Not to mention the 800 billion+ failulus the donks squandered away with nothing to show for it.

[soonerhubs]

So is it fair to be against Tarp 2 simply because a sequel is never as good at the original? ;)

[49r]

Whenever I see this thread title I am reminded of this for some reason:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/falonbecker/BigGayAl2.jpg

Don't know why, really.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

This November, be sure to VOTE DEMOCRAT, or THIRD PARTY...FOR CHANGE!!!

[SicEmBaylor]

Well went to shore up the banks to keep them from failing. Not sure that really would've happened, but i'd rather glad we didn't have to find out. (although it appears 400 banks may fail in the short term now)

but that was a hell of a lot different than the trillions we now on the hook for with the perpetual bailouts of fannie mae and freddie mac, finreg, tarp 2, etc.

Not to mention the 800 billion+ failulus the donks squandered away with nothing to show for it.

Actually, it isn't. The difference is in the dollar amount and not any ideological divide between the two on using Federal tax money to bailout or seize banks and corporations. Basically, they're both whores just haggling over price.

[SicEmBaylor]

You're delusional to believe many conservatives(true, neocon, semi, whatever type of conservatives)were happy with the things you mentioned about Bush.

I need to address this nonsense more fully...

The neocons love(d) Bush. Most of his domestic agenda and all of his foreign policy was crafted by neoconservatives. They couldn't have been happier with him.

The evangelical/social conservatives loved him because he fed them red meat like it was a backyard BBQ in August. His promotion of a "Culture of Life", The Faith-Based initiative, etc. was all gravy for the Jesus crowd.

Most of the so-called "fiscal conservatives" were placated because of his tax cuts.

Really the only groups within the party or movement who really came out hard were the liberty caucus within the GOP and the libertarian wing of the movement. Some credit should also be given to several taxpayer groups who screamed about the massive spending, but the problem with them is that they focused only on the deficit and gave Bush a pass on everything else.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I need to address this nonsense more fully...

The neocons love(d) Bush. Most of his domestic agenda and all of his foreign policy was crafted by neoconservatives. They couldn't have been happier with him.

The evangelical/social conservatives loved him because he fed them red meat like it was a backyard BBQ in August. His promotion of a "Culture of Life", The Faith-Based initiative, etc. was all gravy for the Jesus crowd.

Most of the so-called "fiscal conservatives" were placated because of his tax cuts.

Really the only groups within the party or movement who really came out hard were the liberty caucus within the GOP and the libertarian wing of the movement. Some credit should also be given to several taxpayer groups who screamed about the massive spending, but the problem with them is that they focused only on the deficit and gave Bush a pass on everything else.You GO! Nice labels.

[TUSooner]

No he's not. People like Tuba who keep calling him a "1 term President" are getting way way way the hell ahead of themselves. It's still a long way to 2012 and honest to God who, on the GOP side, has the appeal, star power, and gravitas to win the Presidency? I can't think of any. There is a serious leadership vacuum in the GOP right now, and I don't know who can fill it.

This ^^^. It's going to take more than Rush, Beck and the usual assortment ranting radio buffoons to build a successful campaign. Most people may be basically conservative, but they're not all on the fringes. It says a lot about the ineptness of the GOP that they can make conservatism seem so loony that otherwise conservtaive people see the Democrats as more sane and sensible. :rolleyes:

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

It says a lot about the ineptness of the GOP that they can make conservatism seem so loony that otherwise conservtaive people see the Democrats as more sane and sensible. :rolleyes:It says even more bout the sorry state of the education industry in our country, and their devotion to condemning capitalism, and the effectiveness of the MSM in doing the same thing.

[JohnnyMack]

This ^^^. It's going to take more than Rush, Beck and the usual assortment ranting radio buffoons to build a successful campaign. Most people may be basically conservative, but they're not all on the fringes. It says a lot about the ineptness of the GOP that they can make conservatism seem so loony that otherwise conservtaive people see the Democrats as more sane and sensible. :rolleyes:

Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee or Haley Barbour would be my guess.

[Scott D]

This ^^^. It's going to take more than Rush, Beck and the usual assortment ranting radio buffoons to build a successful campaign. Most people may be basically conservative, but they're not all on the fringes. It says a lot about the ineptness of the GOP that they can make conservatism seem so loony that otherwise conservtaive people see the Democrats as more sane and sensible. :rolleyes:

You kidding me, the best thing that could happen for Rush is for Obama to remain in office and the Democrats to gain an even larger majority in Congress. Beck..meh, he'll always find a way to shill for whoever is willing to pay him. I'm surprised that he isn't his own publicly traded LLC. yet.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

It says even more bout the sorry state of the education industry in our country, and their devotion to condemning capitalism, and the effectiveness of the MSM in doing the same thing.

http://legendsrevealed.com/entertainment/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/robot.jpg

DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! EDUCATION AND THE MEDIA ARE PROGRAMMING YOUR BRAIN!

[Scott D]

rlimc was that creepy old man that was always trying to get Will Robinson alone without the robot.