MARK STEYN guest hosts Limbaugh's show wed & thurs

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

For those libs and MSM peeps who don't know this guy or his verbal skills, catch him today Sept 1 and thurs sept 2. He is as talented as they come, and VERY funny!

[texaspokieokie]

he didn't seem so funny to me.

he kinda rambled on & on about career politicians.

a little before 1 pm; as we were going to lunch.

[OklahomaTuba]

He's a much better writer IMO, but I do like listening to him. Caught him some at lunch.

[JohnnyMack]

Freckles Custard. Now that is some tasty stuff.

[StoopTroup]

Sounds like we should listen to some of the stuff he's written....

[Sooner_Havok]

why is the dope fiend taking so many days off lately?

[SicEmBaylor]

Steyn is one of the biggest apostoles of neoconservatism out there.
He's dreadful and should be discredited.

[StoopTroup]

Steyn is one of the biggest apostoles of neoconservatism out there.
He's dreadful and rides a stolen scooter.

That bastage!

[SicEmBaylor]

That bastage!

I hope he doesn't wear a proper DOT approved helmet! Then again, some major brain damage would probably be an improvement for him.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Did you enjoy, happy campers? Be sure to listen again on thurs, for some more fun and "neo-conservative" entertainment.

[JohnnyMack]

I'd rather drive a rusty nail up my pee hole than listen to him yammer on.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I'd rather drive a rusty nail up my pee hole than listen to him yammer on.Then, he MUST be good!(that was WAY too easy, JM. Maybe you didn't get enough sleep?)

[sooner ngintunr]

why is the dope fiend taking so many days off lately?

New hawt wife would be my guess.

[JohnnyMack]

Then, he MUST be good!(that was WAY too easy, JM. Maybe you didn't get enough sleep?)

Naw it's just that talk radio bores me. It's so dichotomous that it's nearly impossible to actually feel like you've divined the "truth" from one of those shows, be it run by a lib or a neo-con.

[SicEmBaylor]

...be it run by a lib or a neo-con.

You repeat yourself, sir. ;)

Anyway, I agree with JM, I'd rather drive a rusty nail up his peehole than listen to Stein.


RLIMC, why on Earth are you legitimizing neoconservative thought, or do you simply not distinguish between various types of conservatism and their vastly different roots and beliefs? Once again, I think the answer is that you automatically like anyone who doesn't like the guys you don't like.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You repeat yourself, sir. ;)

Anyway, I agree with JM, I'd rather drive a rusty nail up his peehole than listen to Stein.


RLIMC, why on Earth are you legitimizing neoconservative thought, or do you simply not distinguish between various types of conservatism and their vastly different roots and beliefs? Once again, I think the answer is that you automatically like anyone who doesn't like the guys you don't like.I think one of the biggest differences between our beliefs is that I do believe in military influence to help fight the a*sholes overseas if necessary, and where we can. Did the mission get all fu-ukced up(both Iraq and Afghan)...yeah, of course. I will pretend you didn't type your last sentence.

Dude's name is Steyn.

[StoopTroup]

Pull up a chair folks....we got a couple in the ring ready to go!

[MR2-Sooner86]

:pop:

[Scott D]

anyone need some nice italian pants?

[StoopTroup]

?

http://image22.webshots.com/23/7/36/96/357673696HmJRoC_fs.jpg

opps....must have been knock offs.

[tommieharris91]

This thread would be really good if one person wasn't on ignore.

[SicEmBaylor]

I think one of the biggest differences between our beliefs is that I do believe in military influence to help fight the a*sholes overseas if necessary, and where we can. Did the mission get all fu-ukced up(both Iraq and Afghan)...yeah, of course. I will pretend you didn't type your last sentence.

Dude's name is Steyn.

I have NO problem with defending ourselves. But there is a BIG difference between protecting ourselves and accepting the sort of worldview that Mark Steyn advocates.

And please don't claim that I don't know what I'm talking about because I didn't listen to the d-bag on Limbaugh's program...I've read every book Steyn has written.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

This thread would be really good if one person wasn't on ignore.Not a problem for you. You're NOT on ignore any more, for now. ENJOY!

[Bourbon St Sooner]

anyone need some nice italian pants?

Are italian pants still made in Italy, or some SE Asia sweatshop like everything else?

[StoopTroup]

Even if you buy them Italy from an Italian you might get a knock off.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Originally Posted by Scott D
"anyone need some nice italian pants?"

Lookit, Scotty's got quoted again. Ain't that cute?

AND YES, STEYN IS ON THE AIR AGAIN, RIGHT NOW!

[Scott D]

Are italian pants still made in Italy, or some SE Asia sweatshop like everything else?

they're made in Arizona by some ignore happy SF.com poster...or maybe just the illegal mexicans he employs to make them.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

MARK DAVIS tomorrow, and a "Best of" show on monday. Limbaugh returns on tuesday.

[texaspokieokie]

heard him again on way to lunch. he kinda rambles a lot.

i like mark davis, but i'll be glad when rush is back.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

heard him again on way to lunch. he kinda rambles a lot.

i like mark davis, but i'll be glad when rush is back.He's been entertaining the new wife a lot lately, and his golf buddies.

[Okla-homey]

I have NO problem with defending ourselves. But there is a BIG difference between protecting ourselves and accepting the sort of worldview that Mark Steyn advocates.



Clearly, this isn't going to get through. I've tried before, but here goes. Nowadays, the battlespace extends throughout the world and into inner space. Nations and people who seek to do us harm or who operate counter to US vital national interests need to be dealt with. Whether we admit it or not, our lifestyle depends on the maintenance of our empire. Ergo, the empire must be defended. Everywhere or nowhere. It's that simple. You can brand that as militaristic neo-conservatism is you want. IDGAS. FACT: We are long past "avoiding foreign entanglements" Washington counseled against. FACT: We cannot recoil to our borders and continue to enjoy our way of life. FACT: Protecting ourselves means a strong blue-water Navy and boots on the ground and planes in the air over all continents, especially the Arabian Peninsula and SW Asia.

[StoopTroup]

FACT: We are long past "avoiding foreign entanglements" Washington counseled against. FACT: We cannot recoil to our borders and continue to enjoy our way of life. FACT: Protecting ourselves means a strong blue-water Navy and boots on the ground and planes in the air over all continents, especially the Arabian Peninsula and SW Asia.

I agree with you on these things.

I worry we spread ourselves to thin by trying to do what we did in Iraq. We may not have the time or resources in the future to stay as long as we did there.

Tough choices are ahead of us IMO.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Not a problem for you. You're NOT on ignore any more, for now. ENJOY!

Hear that, Tommie? You can now enjoy RLIMC and all his bat-schit craziness seven days a week, again!

[S.PadreIsl.Sooner]

He's been entertaining the new wife a lot lately, and his golf buddies.

I wonder how much Viagra that took?

[GKeeper316]

I wonder how much Viagra that took?

unfortunately, not enough to give him a heart attack.

[Chuck Bao]

Clearly, this isn't going to get through. I've tried before, but here goes. Nowadays, the battlespace extends throughout the world and into inner space. Nations and people who seek to do us harm or who operate counter to US vital national interests need to be dealt with. Whether we admit it or not, our lifestyle depends on the maintenance of our empire. Ergo, the empire must be defended. Everywhere or nowhere. It's that simple. You can brand that as militaristic neo-conservatism is you want. IDGAS. FACT: We are long past "avoiding foreign entanglements" Washington counseled against. FACT: We cannot recoil to our borders and continue to enjoy our way of life. FACT: Protecting ourselves means a strong blue-water Navy and boots on the ground and planes in the air over all continents, especially the Arabian Peninsula and SW Asia.

I don't really agree with any of that.

In my humble opinion, the only real threat to our way of life and the US Empire is our crumbling economy, not foreign military or terrorist action. It is getting to the point that we can't afford to police the world.

I love history too. There are some great books about the rise and fall of empires based on pure economic terms. I am not sure what you call that – econ-archeology? My favorite book is about the rise and fall of historic Thai kingdoms based on the availability of natural resources, such as a nearby copper mountain, the development of a highly-skilled artisan class, the commerce it generated and, ultimately the key factor, the opening and closing of various trade routes to India.

Yeah, I think that is pretty much the main point we have to face now. At the end of the day, it is all about trade. It would help if US corporations reversed the flow of jobs overseas.

It is political suicide for any politician to advocate a cut in military spending. So, I give Sic’em kudos for being brave enough to put that out there. The later it is, I’m afraid, the more painful.

I also know that international cooperation is slow and inefficient. But it is the best choice we have. That’s like when the husband and wife next door are arguing and throwing things: sometimes, it is wise just to get out of the way.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Clearly, this isn't going to get through. I've tried before, but here goes. Nowadays, the battlespace extends throughout the world and into inner space. Nations and people who seek to do us harm or who operate counter to US vital national interests need to be dealt with. Whether we admit it or not, our lifestyle depends on the maintenance of our empire. Ergo, the empire must be defended. Everywhere or nowhere. It's that simple. You can brand that as militaristic neo-conservatism is you want. IDGAS. FACT: We are long past "avoiding foreign entanglements" Washington counseled against. FACT: We cannot recoil to our borders and continue to enjoy our way of life. FACT: Protecting ourselves means a strong blue-water Navy and boots on the ground and planes in the air over all continents, especially the Arabian Peninsula and SW Asia.You may vote for RINOS and even Democrats, but you're right about the above.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

unfortunately, not enough to give him a heart attack.That's some PC Genius, right there, boy.

(They jest cain't hep it!!!)

[tommieharris91]

Hear that, Tommie? You can now enjoy RLIMC and all his bat-schit craziness seven days a week, again!

Apparently he doesn't know how the ignore feature works. More proof that RLIMC's IQ is below 100.

[49r]

heh, RLimc == Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_races_and_species_in_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Gu ide_to_the_Galaxy#Ravenous_Bugblatter_Beast_of_Tra al)?

things are becoming more clear all the time!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

More proof that RLIMC's IQ is below 100.The stupid card is a requirement, Tommie.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

they're made in Arizona by some ignore happy SF.com poster...or maybe just the illegal mexicans he employs to make them.

Thanks for the update. Now I have some facts to wow the guys with at the tailgate party.

[SicEmBaylor]

Clearly, this isn't going to get through. I've tried before, but here goes. Nowadays, the battlespace extends throughout the world and into inner space. Nations and people who seek to do us harm or who operate counter to US vital national interests need to be dealt with.
No doubt. Once again, I have no issue with dealing with those who attack us.


Whether we admit it or not, our lifestyle depends on the maintenance of our empire.
Well, therein lies the problem. Perhaps we should scale our lifestyle back just a little. Having a Republic built upon the foundation of limited-government is wholly and totally incompatible with a so-called "empire." Our very existence is due to the rejection of empire. How on Earth can we simultaneously champion the idea of self-government while maintaining an empire of any sort? The truly scary part is that it cannot be maintained without threatening liberty at home.


the empire must be defended. Everywhere or nowhere. It's that simple. You can brand that as militaristic neo-conservatism is you want. IDGAS.
Take off your Darth Vader helmet for just a moment...why does it have to be defended? Why do we need an empire? Why do we need troops stationed in every nook-and-cranny of the world? Why do we need to nation build? I ask because do you truly believe that this country will just collapse unless we're nation-building in some European backwater like Bosnia? Please...If we're attacked then deal with those responsible and then get the hell out. Nation building is a fool's errand.


FACT: We are long past "avoiding foreign entanglements" Washington counseled against. FACT: We cannot recoil to our borders and continue to enjoy our way of life. FACT: Protecting ourselves means a strong blue-water Navy and boots on the ground and planes in the air over all continents, especially the Arabian Peninsula and SW Asia.

I actually agree with you on the Navy but not the rest. The Navy is more than capable of protecting the territorial integrity of these United States which is really all that I'm interested in. We've already effectively dealt with terrorism to the best degree we can -- we're never ever going to defeat terrorism because terrorism is nothing more than a tactic. Until Islam ceases to exist there is going to be terrorism and nothing we do is going to stop them from hating us. However, entangling ourselves in the mid-east only inflames the situation as does our near unconditional support of Israel.

Everything we can possibly do to end our dependence on mid-east oil and remove ourselves from the region should be done regardless of the cost.

[SicEmBaylor]

I don't really agree with any of that.

In my humble opinion, the only real threat to our way of life and the US Empire is our crumbling economy, not foreign military or terrorist action. It is getting to the point that we can't afford to police the world.

This is absolutely 100% right. And the sad thing is, those foreign deployments and our nation-building efforts in the name of "national security" are doing the real damage to our security.


It is political suicide for any politician to advocate a cut in military spending. So, I give Sic’em kudos for being brave enough to put that out there. The later it is, I’m afraid, the more painful.
The DoD is just like any other government agency -- full of bloat and waste. There are likely billions of dollars in projects and costs that don't do a damned thing to make us safer. I believe in a very strong and well equipped military that is a generation ahead of our nearest rivals, but I don't believe in using the military to maintain some notion of an international empire nor do I believe in nation-building or police actions. Our military should be kept at home (with the exception of the Navy) and when we're attacked we should use our overwhelming force to deal with the threat and then leave. This sticking around for 10 years building huts is a total load of bull****.


I also know that international cooperation is slow and inefficient. But it is the best choice we have. That’s like when the husband and wife next door are arguing and throwing things: sometimes, it is wise just to get out of the way.

I have no issue doing business with the rest of the world. My "isolationism" is limited to opposing anything that makes us responsible for the welfare or security of other nations. Although, I do oppose free-trade agreements because it limits our ability to be flexible in changing economic circumstances. Free-trade is great when its between two fairly equitable economies (such as Canada and the United States). The problem I have is expecting American business and industry to compete in a free-trade environment with a nation whose labor laws, regulations, wages, etc. are far below that of our own. Clinton told our nation's manufacturers that they had to learn to be competitive to compete globally, but how are they supposed to compete with 3rd world labor costs? There's simply no way to overcome that.

I really worry about the day when we're no longer capable of simply manufacturing things in this country. That has to be a real threat to our security as well if we're totally dependent on the 3rd world to manufacture our goods.

[SoonerProphet]

what sicem said. in addition, how can anyone reasonably believe it is economically sustainanble?