TV shows and movies that 'sucked'

[badger]

I want you to pitch and defend a good TV show and movie that "sucked" according to critics, box office returns and ratings.

I rewatched Ninja Assassin by the Matrix brothers again this weekend and while it is bloody most of the time and the dialog isn't great, the movie did not suck. The visuals are awesome.

NP and I went to Speed Racer (also by the Matrix brothers) last year as a joke, because we knew it was getting panned and was getting poor returns, so we fully intended to just sit through it and giggle at how awful it was... and yes, it was indeed awful dialog, acting, etc., but again, a very cool visual experience and we didn't regret seeing it.

Go ahead - tell me why I should watch the alleged worst TV show or movie ever and ignore it's awful ratings, reviews and box office returns :D

[Wishboned]

The Happening. Not because it's a good movie. It's not. Not at all. I just think everyone should experience the worst movie ever made.

[badger]

Isn't that where the evil plants try to kill everyone?

and the worst movie ever made was Blair Witch Project. The fact that it had such good returns from its initial investment was annoying... people saw it out of curiosity, and it SUCKED.

[Mississippi Sooner]

Isn't that where the evil plants try to kill everyone?

and the worst movie ever made was Blair Witch Project. The fact that it had such good returns from its initial investment was annoying... people saw it out of curiosity, and it SUCKED.

I have never seen such a violent reaction to a movie that I actually attended. I mean people were pissed coming out of that movie.

I kinda figured it was going to suck going in, so it didn't take me by that much of a surprise, but watching people's reactions was worth my entertainment dollar for that evening.

[Crucifax Autumn]

The Happening. Not because it's a good movie. It's not. Not at all. I just think everyone should experience the worst movie ever made.

Not the worst ever, but a good example of why M. Night Sha-Na-Na should never get another job in Hollywood.

[badger]

Even so, a movie that was universally panned of his - The Last Airbender - brought in $130 mil thus far. Dude is bankable, even if his work sucks, kind of like Angelina Jolie lately :rolleyes:

[texaspokieokie]

can't imagine why people endure some of these movies.

[Crucifax Autumn]

This is actually difficult to answer for me since I am a bit of a movie snob, but I'll try.

There is an animated Dragonlance movie, Dragons of Autumn Twilight that was pretty universally panned for Kiefer Sutherland's voice acting and an unusual mix of CGI an traditional animation. I finally watched it the other night and I actually really liked it.

OTherwise it's hard since so few films are universally panned by critics. I liked Watchmen more than the critics. I liked Kick *** more than the Box Office totals said I should. I enjoyed The Mist more than the critics and more than audiences who rejected the dark ending. Lovely Bones was WAY better than the reviews said, though that may be since I didn't read the book like so many that hated it. W Delta Z was way better than the "torture porn" lable that it received. Every Kevin smith Film other than J&SBSB and Cop Out has more to offer than the critics had us believe.

Most other movies I'd put in this category over the years have eventually found an audience and forced critics to rethink their original negative reviews. Others I'd include weren't so much panned as they just weren't praised as much as they deserved.

TV shows are easier. The last 3 years have seen the cancellation of 3 of my favorite TV shows, all of which I thought were great: The Dead Zone, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and Legend of the Seeker. All great shows that kinda went against the grain as far as what "works" on TV and all 3 were better for it.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Even so, a movie that was universally panned of his - The Last Airbender - brought in $130 mil thus far. Dude is bankable, even if his work sucks, kind of like Angelina Jolie lately :rolleyes:

Notice how they are gradually reducing how much they include his name on advertising for that Devil movie coming out soon. At first it his name was way up top and out front on trailers, but after the audience sat riveted at comic con only to laugh when his name showed up they've been slowly pulling back.

[NormanPride]

Sarah Connor Chronicles was bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

[RacerX]

NP and I went to Speed Racer (also by the Matrix brothers) last year as a joke, because we knew it was getting panned and was getting poor returns, so we fully intended to just sit through it and giggle at how awful it was... and yes, it was indeed awful

:mad:

[sooneron]

Even so, a movie that was universally panned of his - The Last Airbender - brought in $130 mil thus far. Dude is bankable, even if his work sucks, kind of like Angelina Jolie lately :rolleyes:

130 is NOT good. Not when the budget was 150mm. By Hollywood's math, you have to bring in AT LEAST double your budget to do better than break even. Don't forget about all of the advertising that went into, which I would bet was well over 30mm.

[NormanPride]

And as for the Devil thingy, once you put the name to the movie, everything fits. Dude could make a crazy good promo, but the substance was lacking and everyone knows the formula.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Sarah Connor Chronicles was bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

I never thought I'd think you're not a big enough nerd. :D

[Mississippi Sooner]

Two bad movies that I've seen many times: Repo Man and Destiny Turns On The Radio.

Why do I like them? It's really hard to say. Both just had an overall vibe that cut through the crappy scripts for me. Oh, and both had Tracey Walter playing a creepy little dude. That's box office gold in my books.

Plus, Destiny had one of my all time favorite exchanges:

Nancy Travis: And stop grabbing your thing all the time.

Jim Belushi: It's my thing! It's within arm's reach. I'll grab it if I want!

[sooneron]

I'm pretty sure that Repo Man was pretty popular with some critics back in the day.

[Mississippi Sooner]

I'm pretty sure that Repo Man was pretty popular with some critics back in the day.

You might very well be right. I'm probably just thinking of all the times my wife has called me a moron for liking it so much.

[Crucifax Autumn]

It had an awesome soundtrack.

[BillyBall]

Ghost Dad

[Frozen Sooner]

Repo Man is pretty widely acclaimed. I think.

Big Trouble in Little China is a much-overlooked amazing movie.

[OUMallen]

Movies that had some critical success but somewhat bombed in the box office

The Big Lebowski
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

[SCOUT]

I thought Suicide Kings was really good.

[Boomer.....]

Notice how they are gradually reducing how much they include his name on advertising for that Devil movie coming out soon. At first it his name was way up top and out front on trailers, but after the audience sat riveted at comic con only to laugh when his name showed up they've been slowly pulling back.

The Devil looks interesting and might be okay but then again it's from him. I totally see why they would do that.

[OUMallen]

I thought Suicide Kings was really good.

Oh man, me too. I loved that flick.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Good movie.

[C&CDean]

Big Trouble in Little China is a much-overlooked amazing movie.

One time several years back I'm looking at the TV guide and it shows BTILC with a 1-star rating. I almost didn't watch it because of that. I've seen it several times now, and it's every bit of 3 1/2 stars.

The Breakfast Club. I don't know how it was rated, but whatever it was probably wasn't enough.

[Mississippi Sooner]

So, I'm being told that Repo Man was actually critically acclaimed. I didn't pay much attention to such things back then, so I was only going off the reactions of friends and family through the years.

Conclusion, my friends and family are a bunch of uncultured rubes, and I'm the one with taste. I can get with that. :D

[soonerboomer93]

The Happening. Not because it's a good movie. It's not. Not at all. I just think everyone should experience the worst movie ever made.

It was bad but my worst ones to see are Stargate and Master and Commander.

Put them on, I'll be lights out before too long. I've never seen the end of either movie.

[soonerboomer93]

Sarah Connor Chronicles was bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

Summer Glau is good enough reason to turn that show on from time to time.

[sooneron]

The Breakfast Club. I don't know how it was rated, but whatever it was probably wasn't enough.

Know how I know you're ghey?

[C&CDean]

Doing Molly Ringwold in the pooper is not gay.

[SicEmBaylor]

LOTR. Worst movies I've ever seen. It's a shame I can't get those hours of my life back.

[Mississippi Sooner]

Hard to believe that the guy who wrote the original Vacation movie, Planes Trains and Automobiles, Ferris Bueller and The Breakfast Club also wrote Pretty in Pink, She's Having a Baby and Curly Sue.

I guess all writers have their good moments and their bad moments.

[C&CDean]

LOTR. Worst movies I've ever seen. It's a shame I can't get those hours of my life back.

It just hit me. You're Gollum.

[OhU1]

"Natural Born Killers" and "Kill Bill Vol. 1". Both of these movies totally blew in my opinion. I don't mind violence in my movies but enough already. Do I need to see yet another arm hacked off to "get the point".

Over the top overkill. Wow, what profound movie making genius. Both of these guys have good movies but these were not one of them.

[C&CDean]

Ah, another person who doesn't get the QT flicks.

[texaspokieokie]

Molly Ringwald is not pretty in pink; or in anything else.

[SicEmBaylor]

Molly Ringwald is not pretty in pink; or in anything else.

Obviously you lack the same appreciation that I have for the hawt gingers.

[texaspokieokie]

stupid me, totally missed your point.

[Pricetag]

Idiocracy. It blows my mind how anyone could watch that movie and not deem it brilliant, but I've heard/read plenty of commentary on how bad it is.

It's funny, and a pretty damning criticism of the direction of Western civilization. Despite the buffoonery of the characters, they were likeable, as well.

[sooneron]

Idiocracy. It blows my mind how anyone could watch that movie and not deem it brilliant, but I've heard/read plenty of commentary on how bad it is.

It's funny, and a pretty damning criticism of the direction of Western civilization. Despite the buffoonery of the characters, they were likeable, as well.
Great premise and story that was horribly made. Maybe that was part of the shtick of it, but it didn't work. Plus, it had too many lulls.

[stoopified]

Summer Glau is good enough reason to turn that show on from time to time.I dk about turning the show on but she turned me on.Yeah,I KNOW I am a dirty old man.my wife reminds me daily.

[SunnySooner]

Hmmm, lessee, I'll go with "p.s. I love you", with Hilary Swank and Gerard Butler. I totally enjoyed that sweet little flick, and it got killed by the critics. Maybe it's because I'm a hopeless romantic who likes a little swiss with my gouda/cheddar combo, but I saw it on cable, it made me cry AND laugh, so it's a thumbs-up for me.

Same defense for "The Notebook"--extra cheesy, but sweet and romantic, I sighed during the kissy parts and bawled at the end.

And then there's "Say Anything" (sensing a pattern here ;)). One of my all time faves, I watch it every time I stumble on it while channel flipping or I'll throw in the DVD, love that movie, tho I don't think the critics "hated" it, really don't remember. Cameron Crowe's directorial debut, I think.

[Mississippi Sooner]

Idiocracy. It blows my mind how anyone could watch that movie and not deem it brilliant, but I've heard/read plenty of commentary on how bad it is.

It's funny, and a pretty damning criticism of the direction of Western civilization. Despite the buffoonery of the characters, they were likeable, as well.

Holy crap, I can't believe I forgot about that one. Maybe it's just a guy thing. Seems like most of the ones who hate it the most are women. I actually think it's some of the best satire that Mike Judge has ever written.

[Leroy Lizard]

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.

Shakes the Clown

[Breadburner]

Ishtar sucked.....

[Chuck Bao]

Am I the only one who thinks that film screenwriters are not writing as smart or as witty as some of the TV screenwriters? Some of the American TV shows now are just brilliant.

So many of the movies these days rely so much on CGI and special effects. You can't blame the studios for that because they are gearing more and more for an international audience and smart and witty dialogue doesn't necessarily translate well in foreign languages.

For the DVDs I buy and I'm watching the Thai language with English subtitles with Nope, I am just laughing my *** off and he is looking at me like really weird. I know that he is hearing only the Thai translation and I understand it is either really dumbed down or anesthetized to a degree that makes it completely meaningless.

I think what I am saying is that I don't really expect much from movies that I watch and I would shock most of you with a very long list of movies that I thought were okay and entertaining, but were panned by critics. I still would prefer to watch some American TV series.

[SicEmBaylor]

Welcome Back Carter sucked.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

I honestly can't believe none of you homos has mentioned the GREATEST of all critically slaughtered-yet-facemeltingly awesome movies of ALL TIME.

http://upcomingdiscs.com/ecs_covers/remo-williams-the-adventure-begin-large.jpg

OH YEAH REMO WILLIAMS IN YOUR FACE.

[Leroy Lizard]

Am I the only one who thinks that film screenwriters are not writing as smart or as witty as some of the TV screenwriters? Some of the American TV shows now are just brilliant.

So many of the movies these days rely so much on CGI and special effects.

Lots of car crashes, explosions, witty one-liners, and karate-kickin' women.

The plot? Some white dude is out to destroy something, and only the ***-kickin' female and her sidekick can stop them. The sidekick always bumbles around (unless he's black), prompting the ***-kickin' female to bail him out (followed by witty one-liner).

That's about 89% of them.

[badger]

I don't know how it did box-office and critic-wise, but NP and I recently watched Shawn of the Dead and Zombieland. Both were awesome with lots of zombie killin' action.

To this day, I do not understand how The Emperor's New Groove didn't do better among critics and box office returns. That movie was so incredibly awesome. You will want to watch it repeatedly and will be quoting it verbatim by the second run-through... and even if the movie is not playing.

[Soonerchaz]

I don't know how it did box-office and critic-wise, but NP and I recently watched Shawn of the Dead and Zombieland. Both were awesome with lots of zombie killin' action.

Agree. Shaun of the Dead is pure awesomeness. If you liked that...check out Hot Fuzz.

[NormanPride]

Summer Glau is good enough reason to turn that show on from time to time.

A Glau fan, huh? She's got one mode: Robot. And she has a huge head.

[GKeeper316]

"Natural Born Killers" and "Kill Bill Vol. 1". Both of these movies totally blew in my opinion. I don't mind violence in my movies but enough already. Do I need to see yet another arm hacked off to "get the point".

Over the top overkill. Wow, what profound movie making genius. Both of these guys have good movies but these were not one of them.

both of these movies are in my top 20. i love NBK... rodney dangerfield was awesome, as was tommy lee jones... "well **** fire leroy, how many"?

the show thats on right now, that i just dont get what all the hubub is about is glee. now im a big fan of musical theater, but this show is just plain lame. poor writing, character development that is largely non exsitant, and plot lines so absolutely outside the realm of reality, it should qualify as pure fantasy. seriously... ive read penthouse letters that were more engaging than this ****.

[sooneron]

Doing Molly Ringwold in the pooper is not gay.

Fag hag alert!:gary:

[OhU1]

both of these movies are in my top 20. i love NBK... rodney dangerfield was awesome,

I almost posted that I loved Rodney Dangerfield in NBK. His part was greatness. The rest of it just didn't move the needle for me.

[JohnnyMack]

http://s1.moviefanfare.com/uploads/2009/08/under-the-rainbow.jpg

I will knife fight anyone at the tailgates, be it man, woman, child or SicEm, who tries to trash this film. It is pure greatness.

[SouthFortySooner]

Boondock Saints saw very little play time and the critics bashed in 99. Then blockbuster took it and the rest is history.

I asked an internet chick if she had seen it and she says, 'oh yeah, my kid has the saints prayer TATTOOED DOWN HIS FLANK".

i like it a lot, but...

[GKeeper316]

http://s1.moviefanfare.com/uploads/2009/08/under-the-rainbow.jpg

I will knife fight anyone at the tailgates, be it man, woman, child or SicEm, who tries to trash this film. It is pure greatness.

i cant deny the greatness of it, but even more epic is a movie called "the Terror of Tinytown"

old *** 1930s western with an all midget cast. that **** is ****in genius.

[Frozen Sooner]

One time several years back I'm looking at the TV guide and it shows BTILC with a 1-star rating. I almost didn't watch it because of that. I've seen it several times now, and it's every bit of 3 1/2 stars.


I'm firmly convinced most critics didn't get what John Carpenter was doing. Jack Burton is the greatest sidekick ever.

[Jacie]

http://s1.moviefanfare.com/uploads/2009/08/under-the-rainbow.jpg

I will knife fight anyone at the tailgates, be it man, woman, child or SicEm, who tries to trash this film. It is pure greatness.

Ohhh . . . the pearl is in the liver!

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

Nothing But Trouble (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102558/). That is all.

[Hot Rod]

Anything with Shaq

[Wishboned]

I'm firmly convinced most critics didn't get what John Carpenter was doing. Jack Burton is the greatest sidekick ever.

Sidekick? SIDEKICK??!?!?!

Jack Burton is no sidekick.

Cause when some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

[Frozen Sooner]

Sidekick? SIDEKICK??!?!?!

Jack Burton is no sidekick.

Cause when some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

Gets sent in to scout then gets his *** kicked? Check.
Constantly needs rescue by his more-competent mentor? Check.
Provides comic relief, generally through physical humor? Check.

Dude's a sidekick. An awesome one, but a sidekick.

[badger]

I hear they brought back Futurama, but for those of you that missed it or believed the critics and naysayers that said it was just a Simpsons clone - dead wrong! the show is awesome. NP and I are rewatching it via Netflix. All of the movies and seasons are on it.

[NormanPride]

Skipping the sad episodes, though.

[goingoneight]

I find it much easier to talk about TV that doesn't suck.

[Pricetag]

I honestly can't believe none of you homos has mentioned the GREATEST of all critically slaughtered-yet-facemeltingly awesome movies of ALL TIME.

http://upcomingdiscs.com/ecs_covers/remo-williams-the-adventure-begin-large.jpg

OH YEAH REMO WILLIAMS IN YOUR FACE.
Heh, I found this on one of the movie channels last night and watched it while I was falling asleep.

The chase up the scaffolded Statue of Liberty really dates it. Great flick, though. I love how it's titled like there's more to come, but it's just one movie.

[Leroy Lizard]

i cant deny the greatness of it, but even more epic is a movie called "the Terror of Tinytown"

old *** 1930s western with an all midget cast. that **** is ****in genius.

Sorry, but that movie deserved its criticisms. It was just plain bad.

[Wishboned]

Gets sent in to scout then gets his *** kicked? Check.
Constantly needs rescue by his more-competent mentor? Check.
Provides comic relief, generally through physical humor? Check.

Dude's a sidekick. An awesome one, but a sidekick.


You just pretty much described Inspector Gadget, Inspector Clouseau, Maxwell Smart. None of them were sidekicks.

[Frozen Sooner]

Ah, but none of them had a more-competent mentor who bailed them out all the time.

Wang (B.D. Wong) was the actual hero of that movie.

[Pricetag]

Egg Chen bailed everybody's *** out, though.

[C&CDean]

Yeah, the leading actor pretty much ain't the sidekick. Tonto bailed out the Lone Ranger a ****pot of times and he's still the sidekick. Jack Burton was not the sidekick.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, the leading actor pretty much ain't the sidekick. Tonto bailed out the Lone Ranger a ****pot of times and he's still the sidekick. Jack Burton was not the sidekick.

How many times did the Lone Ranger go into town and get his *** handed to him?

[C&CDean]

Mangos and bananas.

Who was the sidekick in Shanghai Noon?

[Wishboned]

As a side note, Big Trouble in Little China was originally conceived as a western. Jack (not the sidekick) was supposed to get his horse stolen, and not his truck.

[C&CDean]

And the hot American chick was that chick who's on Sex and the City back when she was hot. I think.

[Mississippi Sooner]

And the hot American chick was that chick who's on Sex and the City back when she was hot. I think.

Kim Cattrall. She was also in a famously sucky 80s movie that really did suck: Mannequin.

[badger]

Skipping the sad episodes, though.

NP always has to look over in the theater to see if I'm getting misty eyed at emotional parts of the movie, but obviously can't bear to let me see him get a little teary. Must be a guy thing.

[SoonerAtKU]

Mangos and bananas.

Who was the sidekick in Shanghai Noon?

Owen Wilson, clearly.

And I'm sure you guys can tell how big a fan I am of Big Trouble.

[SoonerAtKU]

Speaking of reversal of roles, did anyone else see Michael Caine and Ben Kingsley as Holmes and Watson in Without a Clue?

Great movie, and it has Holmes as the popular idiot and Watson as the brilliant detective who gets no credit.

[Wishboned]

Speaking of reversal of roles, did anyone else see Michael Caine and Ben Kingsley as Holmes and Watson in Without a Clue?

Great movie, and it has Holmes as the popular idiot and Watson as the brilliant detective who gets no credit.

I think the situation was somewhat similar in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother.

[Frozen Sooner]

Mangos and bananas.

Who was the sidekick in Shanghai Noon?

No idea. Haven't seen it.

[C&CDean]

Dude, you need to check it out.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, I probably should. Is it on Netflix streaming?

[C&CDean]

You're joking right? How the **** would I know if it's on Netflix? If it ain't on basic satellite, I probably ain't seeing it. One of the nerds could probably tell you though.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Who needs streaming when every movie ever made is out there free for the taking? lol

[SicEmBaylor]

The Goonies.

That's another one that sucked.

The Never Ending Story. (There's some false advertising I can thank God for)
There's another one.

[Leroy Lizard]

I think the situation was somewhat similar in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother.

If you're trying to say that a movie would simply adopt the plot of an earlier flick, I'm not buying it. That would be very uncreative.

[soonerinabilene]

sports night. one of the most well written, well acted shows to ever be on tv and it got axed after two seasons. always had poor ratings, but i loved it and have it on dvd.

[GKeeper316]

Skipping the sad episodes, though.

the one with seymore the dog is the saddest...

[SicEmBaylor]

I think some of you misread the title of this thread.

We're looking for movies/tv shows that SUCKED.

[Leroy Lizard]

Ahem.


I want you to pitch and defend a good TV show and movie that "sucked" according to critics, box office returns and ratings.

[Leroy Lizard]

the one with seymore the dog is the saddest...

Why? Did Seymore post on SF and get negged by olevet?

[Tulsa_Fireman]

The Goonies.

That's another one that sucked.

And you're on crack.

[Crucifax Autumn]

The Goonies just ain't Gone With the Wind huh Sic?

[SicEmBaylor]

The Goonies just ain't Gone With the Wind huh Sic?

Sure ain't.