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RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
8/3/2010, 03:03 PM
Some say it might be. There's gonna be some celebrations in some locales. Who really knows? Maybe Obama knows?

Serge Ibaka
8/3/2010, 03:15 PM
Yeah, man. He was born on August 4, 1961 (he'll be turning 49).

JohnnyMack
8/3/2010, 03:29 PM
Yeah, man. He was born on August 4, 1961 (he'll be turning 49).

Yeah. Only he was born in......Dirtylibsocialterroristmuslimistan.

Flagstaffsooner
8/3/2010, 03:37 PM
Happy Birthday, Kenyan.
http://www.obamanotqualified.com/images/obama-kenyan-bc-onq-c.jpg

Serge Ibaka
8/3/2010, 03:41 PM
The paper has creases so you know it's true!

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 03:50 PM
Man, it's really odd that a country that called itself the Dominion of Kenya at the time would put "Republic of Kenya" on an official document.

Or that they got Barack Obama Sr.'s age wrong.

Or that they'd keep track of a birth that took place in Mombasa-which was in Zanzibar at the time.

Flagstaffsooner
8/3/2010, 03:51 PM
The paper has creases so you know it's true!
So does she.http://impeachpelosi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/nancy-pelosi2.jpg

Okla-homey
8/3/2010, 04:21 PM
Man, it's really odd that a country that called itself the Dominion of Kenya at the time would put "Republic of Kenya" on an official document.

Or that they got Barack Obama Sr.'s age wrong.

Or that they'd keep track of a birth that took place in Mombasa-which was in Zanzibar at the time.

I'm not asserting its legit, but it states it was executed in 1964, one year after Kenyan independence.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 04:30 PM
I'm not asserting its legit, but it states it was executed in 1964, one year after Kenyan independence.

The Republic of Kenya was not formed until Dec. 12, 1964. Whatever they were calling themselves, it wasn't that.

However, I'll admit I was focusing on the birth date, not the notarial certificate. Had the Republic of Kenya actually existed at the time this was supposedly executed, I'd withdraw that objection.

olevetonahill
8/3/2010, 04:41 PM
If I cared id look that stuff up .:rolleyes:

ndpruitt03
8/3/2010, 04:47 PM
Obama is another year older. I'm sure it's Bush's fault some how.

SicEmBaylor
8/3/2010, 05:23 PM
Obama is another year older. I'm sure it's Bush's fault some how.

Actually, I blame Lincoln.

GottaHavePride
8/3/2010, 05:43 PM
The Republic of Kenya was not formed until Dec. 12, 1964. Whatever they were calling themselves, it wasn't that.

However, I'll admit I was focusing on the birth date, not the notarial certificate. Had the Republic of Kenya actually existed at the time this was supposedly executed, I'd withdraw that objection.

Supposing all that is correct - why would official Kenyan documents be issued in English?

Also, even THAT one lists Honolulu, Hawaii, as he father's legal residence, so who cares? I have a cousin-in-law who was born in Togo while his parents (both doctors) were doing missionary work in Togo. He's definitely a US citizen, too.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 05:50 PM
Under the then-extant citizenship laws, you were not a natural-born citizen if one of your parents wasn't a U.S. citizen and you weren't born inside the United States. Regardless, the "document" above is a photoshop. Look at the registrar's name and how some of the letters have different angles. Peep the poor work on the name "Dunham."

Wasn't Kenya an English colony? That'd explain why the forger didn't bother to write it in Swahili or something.

XingTheRubicon
8/3/2010, 06:08 PM
You gotta be ****in kidding me


August 4th, huh

SoonerStormchaser
8/3/2010, 06:50 PM
Or that they'd keep track of a birth that took place in Mombasa-which was in Zanzibar at the time.

Ya might wanna check your facts on this one Froze. Just sayin...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa

Okla-homey
8/3/2010, 08:08 PM
Under the then-extant citizenship laws, you were not a natural-born citizen if one of your parents wasn't a U.S. citizen and you weren't born inside the United States. Regardless, the "document" above is a photoshop. Look at the registrar's name and how some of the letters have different angles. Peep the poor work on the name "Dunham."

Wasn't Kenya an English colony? That'd explain why the forger didn't bother to write it in Swahili or something.

I dunno Froz. It looks pretty good to me. Manual typewriters, especially ones in the Third World, do a pretty crappy job compared to modern laser printers. You oughtta see my Oklahoma birth certificate from 1960. And this one looks to be a carbon copy of the original. Those documents typically were printed in sets that included three or four sheets with carbon paper in between. The original goes into a government file cabinet, and the parents get a carbon. That also explains the relatively light raised seal. That seal press had to punch through several sheets.

Frankly, that's also why those dox cooked up by CBS that purported to be W's TANG records were so easily debunked. They were too perfect.

Anyhoo, even if he is foreign born, it doesn't matter. He wouldn't be removed from office as a result. There's no Constitutional provision for doing so.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:13 PM
Ya might wanna check your facts on this one Froze. Just sayin...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mombasa

"On 1 July 1895, it became part of Britain's Kenya protectorate (the coastal strip nominally under Zanzibari sovereignty).
Mombasa became the capital of the coastal Protectorate of Kenya in 1920. In 1963 it became part newly independent Kenya."

1963 would be after 1961. The "Protectorate of Kenya" was Zanzibari. At least that's how I read that.

Just sayin'.

Seriously, any of you thinking this thing is genuine should start laying in tinfoil hats.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:13 PM
I dunno Froz. It looks pretty good to me. Manual typewriters, especially ones in the Third World, do a pretty crappy job compared to modern laser printers. You oughtta see my Oklahoma birth certificate from 1960. And this one looks to be a carbon copy of the original. Those documents typically were printed in sets that included three or four sheets with carbon paper in between. The original goes into a government file cabinet, and the parents get a carbon. that also explains the relatively light raised seal. That seal press had to punch through several sheets.

Frankly, that's also why those dox cooked up by CBS that purported to be W's TANG records were so easily debunked. They were too perfect.

If I posted a picture of the original document that was doctored into this one would it satisfy you?

olevetonahill
8/3/2010, 08:16 PM
Mike , whos to say that the Doc. you post hasnt been doctored?

Okla-homey
8/3/2010, 08:17 PM
If I posted a picture of the original document that was doctored into this one would it satisfy you?

I'd love to see it.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:17 PM
Mike , whos to say that the Doc. you post hasnt been doctored?

Who's to say you really weren't born in Kenya? I don't have any proof that any document you might present wasn't doctored.

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:18 PM
I'd love to see it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

All there for you.

Okla-homey
8/3/2010, 08:19 PM
Who's to say you really weren't born in Kenya? I don't have any proof that any document you might present wasn't doctored.

well for one thing, his name isn't Barack Hussein Obama II and he's not half black.;)

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:20 PM
well for one thing, his name isn't Barack Hussein Obama II and he's not half black.;)

And we quickly get to the crux of the matter. :D

olevetonahill
8/3/2010, 08:28 PM
Who's to say you really weren't born in Kenya? I don't have any proof that any document you might present wasn't doctored.

Cause I wouldnt show ya shat, cause IDGAF if ya believe me er not :P

Just saying this stuff out here on the net could be doctored from a American kennel club document :D

Frozen Sooner
8/3/2010, 08:29 PM
Cause I wouldnt show ya shat, cause IDGAF if ya believe me er not :P

Just saying this stuff out here on the net could be doctored from a American kennel club document :D

My point exactly.

Okla-homey
8/3/2010, 08:32 PM
And we quickly get to the crux of the matter. :D

Like I said. It doesn't matter of he was born in Kenya.

I'm more concerned that he's a radical socialist. The good news is, in less than two years, his craptastic presidential performance has breathed new life and zeal into a GOP on the ropes in January 2009 while virtually assuring his opposition, whose battle cry is "NO!," will regain Congress; a thing it took W six years to accomplish.

And that means at least 2 years of legislative gridlock and no more uber-lib Justices. Which is a very good thing.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
8/3/2010, 08:35 PM
Cause I wouldnt show ya shat, cause IDGAF if ya believe me er not :P

Just saying this stuff out here on the net could be doctored from a American kennel club document :DIs that you playing the dog card? You calling Barak's mom a doggish name?

royalfan5
8/3/2010, 09:32 PM
I would have been impressed if somebody would have found him in Mombasa in barroom drinking gin.