Weiner Enraged on House Floor :hot:

[sooner59]

Wow, if Congress gets this exciting, I may have to start drinking while watching CSPAN or something. This dude was PISSED! On a side note, he is pissed for what seems to me as a legitimate reason if all this is true. Apparently the Republicans were about to vote down a bill that would provide healthcare to the 9/11 first responders. I guess they did? I don't know. Seems like a d*** move. Either way, I want to see Congressional cage matches to determine if bills are passed from now on. UFC wouldn't have **** on that! :D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100730/hl_yblog_upshot/rep-anthony-weiner-blasts-republicans-on-house-floor-for-defeating-911-responder-health-fund

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/30/weiner-enraged-on-house-floor/?fbid=HPbyWIIOXT5

[NCSooner18]

The key is to look at what other bs the dems might have attached to it.

[Ike]

Or what BS the republicans are trying to add to it that they were so hacked off that they wouldn't be allowed to add.

[KABOOKIE]

Who controls the House.....

More mock indignation.

[SoonerStormchaser]

Ya know...Clinton had a great thing going with the line-item veto until SCOTUS went and ****ed it up. There needs to be a line item veto amendment passed right NOW!
If I ever ran the White House, I would use said line item veto on any and all riders to any bill that didn't pertain to the main item of that bill. Wanna pass pork? Put together a mass pork bill at the end of the fiscal year. Otherwise STFU!

[Okla-homey]

Ya know...Clinton had a great thing going with the line-item veto until SCOTUS went and ****ed it up. There needs to be a line item veto amendment passed right NOW!
If I ever ran the White House, I would use said line item veto on any and all riders to any bill that didn't pertain to the main item of that bill. Wanna pass pork? Put together a mass pork bill at the end of the fiscal year. Otherwise STFU!

The line item veto went down in flames because SCOTUS correctly ruled, per our Constitution, Congress passes bills, and the president signs them into law. The president doesn't get to edit bills passed by Congress.

I would add, the Confederate Constitution permitted line-item veto. Look where that got 'em.

[SoonerInKCMO]

I don't think it was the line-item veto that burned down Atlanta. ;)

[GottaHavePride]

I'd prefer an amendment saying any and all riders attached to a bill MUST be directly related to the legislation in the bill.

[delhalew]

I'd prefer an amendment saying any and all riders attached to a bill MUST be directly related to the legislation in the bill.

werd.

[picasso]

The key is to look at what other bs the dems might have attached to it.

Attached, to, the weiner?

[bluedogok]

I'd prefer an amendment saying any and all riders attached to a bill MUST be directly related to the legislation in the bill.
I would prefer that amendments/riders don't exist, EVERYTHING should have to have an appropriate review period, then a debate, then be put to a public vote ON THE RECORD, EVERY ITEM, no committees, nothing "killed in committee". Then maybe they couldn't pass as much crap onto the public. There is no need in adding thousands of laws to an already overstuffed set of laws.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

You should ask soon to be former Oklahoma Speaker of the House Chris Benge (R-Sand Springs) about killing bills in commitee.

[JohnnyMack]

You should ask soon to be former Oklahoma Speaker of the House Chris Benge (R-Sand Springs) about killing bills in commitee.

Or you could ask Randy Brogdon why he keeps killing the bill to end 3.2 beer and start allowing grocery stores to carry real beer and wine. That's something that never makes it out of committee.

[sooner59]

Or you could ask Randy Brogdon why he keeps killing the bill to end 3.2 beer and start allowing grocery stores to carry real beer and wine. That's something that never makes it out of committee.

That's what the **** I am saying. Why does a **** state like Texas get this and we don't? Are we saying that Texas is smarter than us? Or multiple other states? This p***es me off more than most subjects. In Oklahoma we limit beer to 3.2 and don't allow high point beer or wine sales in grocery stores. We cut off liquor stores at 9pm. Every state I visit that is worth a damn sells high point and wine in grocery stores and keeps liquor stores open way later. Are Texas, Arizona, or Florida better than Oklahoma? Obviously so as of now.

[bluedogok]

It has nothing to do with "being smarter" it has to do with lobbyists, the liquor lobby in Oklahoma buys their legislation mainly to restrict out of state companies from coming into the state. They like the laws the way they are and intend on keeping them that way. Until consumers matter choice doesn't and consumers don't buy legislation like lobbyists do.

[Okla-homey]

It has nothing to do with "being smarter" it has to do with lobbyists, the liquor lobby in Oklahoma buys their legislation mainly to restrict out of state companies from coming into the state. They like the laws the way they are and intend on keeping them that way. Until consumers matter choice doesn't and consumers don't buy legislation like lobbyists do.

That's the truth Ruth. A state senator with whom I'm acquainted told me once, kinda on the down-low, the liquor retailers in this state collectively spend a million per year on donations to Okie legislators.

Thus, our only hope is an initiative petition to get the issue on a statewide ballot.

[texaspokieokie]

liquor stores don't want to stay open later. that just adds to overhead.

tx has dumb laws, blue laws. mostly gone but car dealers can only be open for 1 day of each weekend.

tx loses millions to ok & & la because they won't allow casinos.

[texaspokieokie]

when buying booze, you must learn to plan ahead.

[sooner59]

Oh I plan ahead. But sometimes you all of a sudden want booze at 9:15pm and you are screwed unless you want 3.2 beer....which sucks.

[StoopTroup]

Attached, to, the weiner?

Or make sure it has a wiener attached. But of course the SCOTUS would rule that as Sexist and that would be that...:D

[Okla-homey]

tx loses millions to ok & & la because they won't allow casinos.

FWIW, Okie doesn't "allow casinos." The federal law permitting federally recognized Indian tribes to conduct gaming is why we have casinos on Oklahoma. If Texas hadn't run off or killed off every tribe within its borders, it would have tribal casinos too.

[picasso]

FWIW, Okie doesn't "allow casinos." The federal law permitting federally recognized Indian tribes to conduct gaming is why we have casinos on Oklahoma. If Texas hadn't run off or killed off every tribe within its borders, it would have tribal casinos too.

I'm not so sure of that. Unless they had Brad Henry voted in.

[Okla-homey]

I'm not so sure of that. Unless they had Brad Henry voted in.

Henry made Class III gaming possible because it requires a tribal-state gaming compact which he signed-off on. Generally, the Tribes can do Class II gaming whether the state signs off on it or not because the federal "Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA)" specifies tribes can do Class II whether the state in which the tribe is situated in likes it or not.

[picasso]

Henry made Class III gaming possible because it requires a tribal-state gaming compact which he signed-off on. Generally, the Tribes can do Class II gaming whether the state signs off on it or not because the federal "Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA)" specifies tribes can do Class II whether the state in which the tribe is situated in likes it or not.

Yeah I know that. Remember I come from Osage and Pawnee counties where they have had the Class II Casinos for years. Henry just helped kick the rest of the door open.

I wonder how the hot Weiner feels about this?

[delhalew]

Allowing table games in the Indian Casinos was a voter initiative. I vividly remember voting for this.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Dude, you can walk into a supermarket or drugstore in LA and buy a bottle of Marker' Mark at 1:30am.

You guys need to fix the 3.2 law...STAT. :)

[picasso]

Allowing table games in the Indian Casinos was a voter initiative. I vividly remember voting for this.

That's not the whole story. No biggie, I'm just sayin' Henry should be known more for being the Casino Guvnah than the Education one.

[KABOOKIE]

Dude, you can walk into a supermarket or drugstore in LA and buy a bottle of Marker' Mark at 1:30am.

You guys need to fix the 3.2 law...STAT. :)

I heard you can also buy hand grenades at gun shows in LA as well.

[Leroy Lizard]

That's what the **** I am saying. Why does a **** state like Texas get this and we don't? Are we saying that Texas is smarter than us? Or multiple other states? This p***es me off more than most subjects. In Oklahoma we limit beer to 3.2 and don't allow high point beer or wine sales in grocery stores. We cut off liquor stores at 9pm. Every state I visit that is worth a damn sells high point and wine in grocery stores and keeps liquor stores open way later. Are Texas, Arizona, or Florida better than Oklahoma? Obviously so as of now.

Maybe if your life revolves around booze. ;)

[sooner59]

Maybe if your life revolves around booze. ;)

I thought you would know more about college students by now...:rolleyes: