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OU44life
6/16/2010, 03:34 PM
Wow...Clay Travis seems like a prick, though he does speak some hard truths to stomach. Seems like a jerk none the less though.



http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/16/meet-the-texas-longhorns-the-biggest-coward-program-in-college/

NormanPride
6/16/2010, 03:48 PM
No, he's pretty much wrong everywhere. Plus he calls OU out as having beat up on patsies to get into the title game, which is exactly wrong. It's our schedule that has hurdled us over other teams.

OU44life
6/16/2010, 03:53 PM
It's our schedule that has hurdled us over other teams.



Thats exactly right.

Dio
6/16/2010, 03:56 PM
Just proves you don't have to know d*ck about sports to write about sports.

NCSooner18
6/16/2010, 04:04 PM
"program that doubles as the sun, moon and stars,"

Can you double as 3 things?

OUthunder
6/16/2010, 04:14 PM
Wow, the writer really hates UT and Oklahoma (to some extent) If Colt plays the whole game I think UT wins. However, we will never know.

soonervegas
6/16/2010, 04:17 PM
I mean I get the whole SEC 4 in a row thing. But let's not act like the SEC is proactively going out and looking for tussles. Their non-conference schedules are generally very bad.

Let's paint with the same brush....mkay?

Bourbon St Sooner
6/16/2010, 04:27 PM
I got to the part about competing with top echelon Pac 10 talent and figured the entire thing was a waste of time.

Dio
6/16/2010, 04:30 PM
"program that doubles as the sun, moon and stars,"

Can you double as 3 things?

It's kind of like using one head-to-head meeting to break a 3 way tie

OUthunder
6/16/2010, 04:32 PM
I mean I get the whole SEC 4 in a row thing. But let's not act like the SEC is proactively going out and looking for tussles. Their non-conference schedules are generally very bad.

Let's paint with the same brush....mkay?

Not really.

Bama played Va.Tech last year and killed them

Tennessee played UCLA and lost (I think)

Florida played FSU and won

LSU played Arizona State and won

OU played BYU and lost.

Seems like they played the same type of OOC opponent as OU did.

NCSooner18
6/16/2010, 04:48 PM
It's kind of like using one head-to-head meeting to break a 3 way tie

Well, now it makes perfect sense.

humblesooner
6/16/2010, 04:51 PM
My guess is if he were invited to look up strength of schedules for the last 10 years, he would either decline or would look it up and then deny that he did. Because he would then know why OU has been in so many NC games this decade.

yermom
6/16/2010, 04:56 PM
Not really.

Bama played Va.Tech last year and killed them

Tennessee played UCLA and lost (I think)

Florida played FSU and won

LSU played Arizona State and won

OU played BYU and lost.

Seems like they played the same type of OOC opponent as OU did.

BYU wasn't even our good OOC game :(

BudSooner
6/16/2010, 05:01 PM
BYU wasn't even our good OOC game :(Guess they forgot about Miami.

BoulderSooner79
6/16/2010, 05:10 PM
Texas is just gaming the BCS system and it's hard to blame them. The writer is correct that in the SEC, the horns become another strong team in a crowded field (especially if we went their too). Similar story in a mega-Pac10 to a lesser extent - they would have kept us, but added USC. But road games at some of the 2nd tier Pac10 schools would have been tough (ducks, Cal and maybe Stanford).

The sad thing is if the horns keep the easy OOC sched and get by us, they probably do get an easy path to the title game. The 2 recent times that tOSU got to the title game, no one questioned that they belonged even though they come from what has become a 1 team conference. The scrutiny was on UF and LSU and why they deserved to go over other 1&2 loss teams. (To be fair to tOSU, they did play UT in Austin and Mich was a good team the 1st time they went). And USC went back-to-back coming out of a 1 team conference. Obviously, USC deserved to go and not having a tough conference doesn't mean you are not good. But the point remains that "owning" a BCS conference is the most efficient way to the title game and that is what the horns are trying to do. They probably don't even want us there unless we promise to field teams like last season more often.

And all this applies to OU as well. We choose to play a tougher OOC schedule, but that sword cuts both ways as we found out last year. It helped us in the '08 tie breaker, but we wouldn't have needed it if we had just won in Dallas. I guess I would call the horns more "BCS driven" than "cowardly".

agoo758
6/16/2010, 05:22 PM
I mean I get the whole SEC 4 in a row thing. But let's not act like the SEC is proactively going out and looking for tussles. Their non-conference schedules are generally very bad.

Let's paint with the same brush....mkay?


Idiots in my home state here in Louisiana like to use the "4 in a row argument" to prove that the SEC is far above everyone, they seem to fail to mention the results of bowls that other SEC teams seem to play in. All this argument does is prove that the best team in the SEC has been better than the best team in the other conferences, but I assure you that texas and nebraska would have ripped teams like LSU, Georgia, and tenessee to shreds.

Leroy Lizard
6/16/2010, 05:58 PM
Because never in the history of college athletics has one program so dominated the puny conference sisters it surrounds itself with.

??????

He has never heard of Oklahoma and the Seven Dwarves?

fadada1
6/16/2010, 06:04 PM
Wow, the writer really hates UT and Oklahoma (to some extent) If Colt plays the whole game I think UT wins. However, we will never know.
If "ifs and buts were candy and nuts..."

we'd all win a national championship.

most of us, however, don't use an * to claim a title, ask a fan base to vote on it, or have Bubba's Bait n' Gas assign it. most schools actually PLAY for it.

BoulderSooner79
6/16/2010, 06:04 PM
Idiots in my home state here in Louisiana like to use the "4 in a row argument" to prove that the SEC is far above everyone, they seem to fail to mention the results of bowls that other SEC teams seem to play in. All this argument does is prove that the best team in the SEC has been better than the best team in the other conferences, but I assure you that texas and nebraska would have ripped teams like LSU, Georgia, and tenessee to shreds.

This is true. The tough conference tag on the SEC is a little more reputation than fact lately. LSU is a bit weaker the last couple of seasons and UGA is definitely down. The Vols are going to be mediocre for years unless this new, unproven coach is the real deal. It's been 2 straight years of 'Bama/UF in the CCG and I suspect they will both be favored to get there again. The SEC may become a 2 team conference much like the big12.

bluedogok
6/16/2010, 08:45 PM
Just proves you don't have to know d*ck about sports to write about sports.
That's for sure.....or talk about it on radio or TV as well.

As far as the "power teams" the SEC plays out of conference, here is the OOC games for 2010. Their scheduling is actually a little better than it has been in years past, of course most of the bigger OOC games are at home but they do have a few good road games...but I don't really see it as all that much different than what any other conference does.

Florida
9/4 Miami (OH)
9/11 South Florida
11/20 Appalachian State
11/27 at FSU

Georgia
9/4 Louisiana-Lafayette
10/2 at Colorado
11/6 Idaho State
11/27 Georgia Tech

Kentucky
9/4 at Louisville
9/11 Western Kentucky
9/18 Akron
11/6 Charleston Southern

South Carolina
9/2 Southern Miss
9/18 Furman
11/20 Troy
11/27 at Clemson

Tennessee
9/4 Tennessee-Martin
9/11 Oregon
9/25 UAB
11/6 at Memphis

Vanderbilt
9/4 Northwestern
10/2 at UCONN
10/9 Eastern Michigan
11/27 Wake Forest

Alabama
9/4 San Jose State
9/11 Penn State
9/18 at Duke
11/20 Georgia State

Arkansas
9/4 Tennessee Tech
9/11 Louisiana-Monroe
10/9 at Texas A&M
11/13 UTEP

Auburn
9/4 Arkansas State
9/18 Clemson
10/2 Louisiana-Monroe
11/6 Chattanooga

LSU
9/4 at North Carolina
9/25 West Virginia
10/16 McNeese State
11/13 Louisiana-Monroe

Mississippi
9/4 Jacksonville State
9/11 at Tulane
9/25 Fresno State
11/6 Louisiana-Lafayette


Mississippi State
9/4 Memphis
10/2 Alcorn State
10/9 Houston
10/23 UAB

sooneron
6/16/2010, 08:52 PM
I had no idea that we were stomped in our last bcs game...

Herr Scholz
6/16/2010, 08:56 PM
Who cares what a jilted Vol fan thinks? BTW, Clay, UT's DC still doesn't want to be your HC.

budbarrybob
6/16/2010, 09:00 PM
writer = JAFO

bluedogok
6/16/2010, 09:02 PM
I had no idea that we were stomped in our last bcs game...
Didn't you get the memo?
Any loss by OU is a stomping, blowout, whuppin'. etc. whether it is in a BCS game or not.

sooner518
6/17/2010, 10:23 AM
Clay Travis is one of, if not the biggest SEC homer out there. I'm glad he no longer writes for deadspin, instead spewing his SEC man-love on some website I don't read. Glad I don't have to read through his "Es ee see speeed!" articles every week

goingoneight
6/17/2010, 11:16 AM
Dear Clay,
Doing that to the SEC will make you go blind. Take some time to look up strength of schedules... You know... facts. Then consider two teams not at full-strength played just fine against your might conference the last two years in BCS games.

homerSimpsonsBrain
6/17/2010, 01:24 PM
That's for sure.....or talk about it on radio or TV as well.

As far as the "power teams" the SEC plays out of conference, here is the OOC games for 2010. Their scheduling is actually a little better than it has been in years past, of course most of the bigger OOC games are at home but they do have a few good road games...but I don't really see it as all that much different than what any other conference does.

Florida
9/4 Miami (OH)
9/11 South Florida
11/20 Appalachian State
11/27 at FSU

Georgia
9/4 Louisiana-Lafayette
10/2 at Colorado
11/6 Idaho State
11/27 Georgia Tech

Kentucky
9/4 at Louisville
9/11 Western Kentucky
9/18 Akron
11/6 Charleston Southern

South Carolina
9/2 Southern Miss
9/18 Furman
11/20 Troy
11/27 at Clemson

Tennessee
9/4 Tennessee-Martin
9/11 Oregon
9/25 UAB
11/6 at Memphis

Vanderbilt
9/4 Northwestern
10/2 at UCONN
10/9 Eastern Michigan
11/27 Wake Forest

Alabama
9/4 San Jose State
9/11 Penn State
9/18 at Duke
11/20 Georgia State

Arkansas
9/4 Tennessee Tech
9/11 Louisiana-Monroe
10/9 at Texas A&M
11/13 UTEP

Auburn
9/4 Arkansas State
9/18 Clemson
10/2 Louisiana-Monroe
11/6 Chattanooga

LSU
9/4 at North Carolina
9/25 West Virginia
10/16 McNeese State
11/13 Louisiana-Monroe

Mississippi
9/4 Jacksonville State
9/11 at Tulane
9/25 Fresno State
11/6 Louisiana-Lafayette


Mississippi State
9/4 Memphis
10/2 Alcorn State
10/9 Houston
10/23 UAB

How many of these schools are 1AA (or whatever they are calling that now)?? Looks like most of them have at lease one on the schedule.

NormanPride
6/17/2010, 01:41 PM
:les: WHEN YOU PLAY IN THE SEC, YOU DON'T NEED A STRONG NON CONFERENCE!