About this OU TV Network ....

[landrun]

What does this mean... for me? :confused:

How would this work? Would OU be on a major network like Notre Dame each week or what? I get to see about half their games now. I'm concerned that I'd see less but am excited about the possibility of seeing more. :D

Anyone have any insight into this? :confused: :confused:

[Sabanball]

I doubt it. Your problem--you are a state of only 3-4 million people. The OKC and Tulsa TV markets are not very high on the list.

[landrun]

No. My problem is I live in Georgia.
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country... :rolleyes:

[Peeb]

xxxx

[Boomer Mooner]

Hell, I think the only game I didn't get in Houston was the Idaho State game. Not sure about the Baylor game because I was at the game, but really, seems to me damn near every game is already on tv.

[ELP Sooner]

It has NOTHING to do with football. The OU or UT network will show things like the playback show...coaches shows ...softball...gymnastics...swimming...etc. In other words sports that get zero tv coverage now. You will never see an OU or UT football game on live.

[SoonerMom2]

Like that idea as there are times I would have loved to watch some of the other sports. Coaches show on their own network. I have one request -- no Dean Blevins allowed to interview our coaches. This sounds like a great idea!

[Boomer Mooner]

Like that idea as there are times I would have loved to watch some of the other sports. Coaches show on their own network. I have one request -- no Dean Blevins allowed to interview our coaches. This sounds like a great idea!

I like that idea too. Just got finished watching OU beat the hell out of Virigina's baseball team. It was very satisfying. :D

[ndpruitt03]

I think this may be viable if it's done online. Like they already kinda do.

[rawlingsHOH]

What does this mean... for me? :confused:

How would this work? Would OU be on a major network like Notre Dame each week or what? I get to see about half their games now. I'm concerned that I'd see less but am excited about the possibility of seeing more. :D

Anyone have any insight into this? :confused: :confused:

i doubt it would show live football games.

maybe the pay per view ones, which is usually one per season.

i had the byu channel but never watched it, it think it had replays, coaches shows, and promotional stuff.

[rawlingsHOH]

It has NOTHING to do with football. The OU or UT network will show things like the playback show...coaches shows ...softball...gymnastics...swimming...etc. In other words sports that get zero tv coverage now. You will never see an OU or UT football game on live.

right on. didnt read far enough down before posting!

[GottaHavePride]

I bet any OU network to come will be a PPV or premium network.

[ndpruitt03]

I'm not sure how a network would work if it doesn't show football. It would have to at least show replays of games. Maybe some classic games thrown in. But Texas will try and use theirs so they can show all of their football games and eventually sell it to a network.

[OKLA21FAN]

dont we alreadu have an 'OU network'?


its called FOX sports SW? :pop:

[prrriiide]

It all depends.

DFW (#5), OKC (#45), Tulsa (#61), WF-Lawton (#149), and Sherman-Ada (#161) markets are a given. Plenty of cable subs there (~4.5M), enough of them with OU allegiances to make that go. After that it's all about how good of an affilliate sales person/team you put together. You could probably add Wichita, Fort Smith, Houston, and Amarillo without too much difficulty. Maybe Kansas City and Joplin/Pittsburg. Adding those possibles and maybes would up it to ~8.2M subs.

But it would be a nearly impossible sell anywhere else.

I think that if it were exclusively OU sports, you'd have a tough time of it. If you included a programming aspect that went into some of the rivalry histories and players that have played both for and against OU, you might have a slightly wider appeal.

A smart move would be to enter into an operating agreement with one of the OKC affilliates for their talent and some of the equipment. Much easier to broadcast from an existing facility with room for expansion than it is to start from scratch. Probably couldn't up-link from their Sat truck though. Most of the time the network provides the Sat truck to the affilliate station, at least in part (eg. ABC pays for 1/2 or more of KOCOs truck, but with major stipulations like nobody but KOCO or ABC gets to use it). Best bet would be to set up a dedicated microwave signal from the OU campus to an affilliate site in N. OKC and then uplink the signal from there.

That's IF you can get enough cable MSOs to agree to carry the network to make it worth the time and significant expense.

[ndpruitt03]

dont we alreadu have an 'OU network'?


its called FOX sports SW? :pop:

Yeah FS Oklahoma although I don't think we really get much money from it.

[SoonerMom2]

I like that idea too. Just got finished watching OU beat the hell out of Virigina's baseball team. It was very satisfying. :D

That was an AWESOME game -- would have loved to see Sonny Galloway's comments live after the game on our own network!

[SoonerMom2]

Why not turn the TV studio at the Gaylord Journalism College into the home of the Sooner Sports -- why give money to one of the stations? Bet we could get some donors to anti-up some bucks to broadcast from the OU campus.

You could also have it so you could get it on-line for a fee so anywhere in the world you could watch all the Sooner sports including Sooner game replays along with coaches shows. Just tired of Dean Blevins with Coach Stoops. I nominate Myron Patton and Toby Rowland to do the interviews!

[ndpruitt03]

Yep the best way to do a real SSN thing is online so that people can watch when they want. But I think they already do that. But also you would have to add perks like classic games from OU football basketball all the televised games from the volt.

[SoonerMom2]

You could also add interviews with Sooner legends. There is a lot you could on-line if they think outside the box -- would be more than happy to pay a monthly fee.

[ndpruitt03]

A lot of that they already do for free. Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't see a TV deal working for a Sooner Sports Network. They already show them on FSOK and channel 3.

[Leroy Lizard]

It means that Coach's will show the tape of the game on the following Monday with no sound. The assistant manager will play silent-film piano music during the viewing. Every 40 minutes, they will stop the playback for burlesque comedy routines.

[prrriiide]

Why not turn the TV studio at the Gaylord Journalism College into the home of the Sooner Sports -- why give money to one of the stations? Bet we could get some donors to anti-up some bucks to broadcast from the OU campus.

They better be BIG donors.

The cost of starting it from scratch is going to make it a non-starter. The equipment needed for a broadcast network is a far cry from what you have in the J-school. Just the Sat equipment alone will run into 7 figures. HD pedastal cameras are $100K apiece. Hand-helds are a minimum of $50K each. Then you have the switchers, routers, servers, chyrons, and all of the other equipment. Not to mention staffing for all of that. We're talking about several million dollars for start-up from scratch.

If you can enter an operating agreement with someone that already has a lot of that physical plant in place, you save BIG money. You can always have the students intern on the equipment. You're still talking millions in start-up costs, but not nearly as much as retro-fitting the J-school to handle it.

[John Kochtoston]

I'm not sure how a network would work if it doesn't show football. It would have to at least show replays of games. Maybe some classic games thrown in. But Texas will try and use theirs so they can show all of their football games and eventually sell it to a network.

No chance in hell does Texas take its football games and sell them on their own network. Fox and ESPN aren't paying big tv rights dollars only to be told they can't air Texas games.

This is why a 'Horns only network won't work - no one will watch when the football and all but a few hoops games are on network/other cable channels. The Big 10 Network works because it has football, basketball and hockey (a big deal up north) on its broadcasts. No one will watch swimming and diving.

[MI Sooner]

Big 10 Network doesn't have hockey. Big 10 teams are in CCHA or WCHA hockey conferences.

[BudSooner]

Big 10 Network doesn't have hockey. Big 10 teams are in CCHA or WCHA hockey conferences.
Correct.

[GrapevineSooner]

It has NOTHING to do with football. The OU or UT network will show things like the playback show...coaches shows ...softball...gymnastics...swimming...etc. In other words sports that get zero tv coverage now. You will never see an OU or UT football game on live.

And considering all that, I don't think it's a surefire bet that even a school like Texas that has the fanbase that it does would be able to consistently turn a profit.

It's one thing to start up a conference network that shows live football and basketball, as well as a bevy of other sports.

What Texas is wanting to try has never been tried. Thus, there's no guarantees of success or failure.

[King Barry's Back]

No chance in hell does Texas take its football games and sell them on their own network. Fox and ESPN aren't paying big tv rights dollars only to be told they can't air Texas games.

This is why a 'Horns only network won't work - no one will watch when the football and all but a few hoops games are on network/other cable channels. The Big 10 Network works because it has football, basketball and hockey (a big deal up north) on its broadcasts. No one will watch swimming and diving.

Here's why you are wrong.

The Big 10 network shows up on cable systems throughout out the mid-west, and I had it on my system when I lived in Northern Virginia. Cable providers pay less than 5 cents (I could be wrong on that number, but it's in the ball park) PER SUBSCRIBER for the right to broadcast the Big 10 network.

Since the Big 10 has some of the biggest universities (student populations, alumni bases, and large-state populations), and those alums live all over the north east and mid-Atlantic -- you have cable providers eager to ante up the 5 cents per subscriber -- just to make the Big 10 fans happy.

(PERSONAL NOTE: I mostly enjoyed to watch the women's volleyball games, but that's another issue.)

A Pac-16 Network would make OODLES AND OODLES of money because cable providers in every city from the Mississippi River west would have to consider carrying the conference. ANd most of them -- representing up to a hundred million households -- would go ahead and sign up. So, 5 cents per month, times up to a hundred million subscribers, times twelve months, is roughly what a Pac-16 network could earn.

That's also why an Oklahoma Sooner Network = FAIL. Few (almost none) of the cable providers outside of the Great State of Oklahoma, and northern TX, will agree to carry the network.

So, instead of being a part of the Pac-16 network package sold to cable subscribers in LA, SD, SF, Seattle, Phoenix, etc -- we can start our own "network" and sell to Anadarko, Seminole and Woodward.

I think the University of Oklahoma will rue the day it opted NOT to take the Pac-10 invite.

[King Barry's Back]

And considering all that, I don't think it's a surefire bet that even a school like Texas that has the fanbase that it does would be able to consistently turn a profit.

It's one thing to start up a conference network that shows live football and basketball, as well as a bevy of other sports.

What Texas is wanting to try has never been tried. Thus, there's no guarantees of success or failure.

There's a guarantee they'll sell to every cable provider in TX, and lots more in NMex and Louisana.

That's enough for a lot of money.

[rawlingsHOH]

And considering all that, I don't think it's a surefire bet that even a school like Texas that has the fanbase that it does would be able to consistently turn a profit.

It's one thing to start up a conference network that shows live football and basketball, as well as a bevy of other sports.

What Texas is wanting to try has never been tried. Thus, there's no guarantees of success or failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYU_Television

[John Kochtoston]

The Big 10 teams that play hockey still control their own TV rights for home games, even though they don't play in a Big 10 hockey league.

And King, you've explained why a Pac 16 network would have worked, not why a Texas network would work.

[KantoSooner]

I know it would be expensive to set up, but I think we should try to do our own network, through the J school. You've got satellite and cable operators who have capacity for approximately 7,000 channels that are now empty. That, plus a streaming/subscription option should be enough to bring in some mills per year.
And you could then be one of a very few J schoools nationally with your own tv channel.
Use the athletics to boost the academics.

[NormanPride]

I'd pay a few extry bucks a month to watch the non-revenue sports. I love me some Women's BBall, and I'd like to see more Baseball in Tulsa as well.

[John Kochtoston]

I'd pay a few extry bucks a month to watch the non-revenue sports. I love me some Women's BBall, and I'd like to see more Baseball in Tulsa as well.

But you're the exception, rather than the rule.

[OKLA21FAN]

I'd pay a few extry bucks a month to watch the non-revenue sports. I love me some Women's BBall, and I'd like to see more Baseball in Tulsa as well.

softball! more softball! :pop:

[SoonerMom2]

I know it would be expensive to set up, but I think we should try to do our own network, through the J school. You've got satellite and cable operators who have capacity for approximately 7,000 channels that are now empty. That, plus a streaming/subscription option should be enough to bring in some mills per year.
And you could then be one of a very few J schoools nationally with your own tv channel.
Use the athletics to boost the academics.

Exactly! It would be win win and once the initial equipment was purchased cheaper to operate and what a boon that would be to the students who wanted to do broadcast journalism around the Country. Can you imagine a sports journalist wannabe getting a chance to be part of this network no matter what job they had. They could see a sports broadcast put together from the bottom up.

[SoonerMom2]

I'd pay a few extry bucks a month to watch the non-revenue sports. I love me some Women's BBall, and I'd like to see more Baseball in Tulsa as well.

That makes two of us and put it on the net for a fee and you would really bring in subscribers.

[SoonerMom2]

Joe C is talking about they have been involved with this the past three years and now they are going to take it to a new level since they already have a marriage with Gaylord Journalism and several media companies like Clear Channel and some others who are already involved with OU in a joint venture. Looks like that is why we can see baseball games on line today.. He said all venues are open -- cable, satellite, and broadband.

[badger]

Joe C addressed it in a still ongoing presser (watch/listen as newsok.com or soonersports.com). It's not an idea set in stone, he said. It's something they have to look into the legalities and viability of first or something.

the presser is very interesting. tune in!

[SoonerMom2]

The guy was on with James Hale from Texas Ags and said Texas had this planned for about six months and never included any of the other teams in what they were doing. He also said that A&M is farther along in having a network than Texas.

He also said if A&M had said they were going to the PAC 10, Texas would have announced this afternoon they were gone but A&M didn't like how they were treated by Texas during their joint meeting. Basically they were told to rubberstamp the plan and that's when the SEC came up.

[badger]

A&M is sick of being a little brother... but it's time they accept that they are.

As all fellow younger siblings have figured out by now as I have (as a little sister with a big brother), there's no getting around the fact that you are younger. You will always be the little sister or little brother, even if you get taller than your older sibling or accomplish more, you're the little bro/sis.

[goingoneight]

If'n my friends and I can talk about Sooner Football for 24 hours, I'm pretty damb sure a TV network devoted to Sooner SPORTS will always have something planned. Hell, one of the most popular channels on XM radio is about freakin NASCAR. A bunch of rednecks driving in circles... and they talk left turns all day long on there. I know this because my coworker mistakenly thinks people care enough about it to turn that carp up full-blast all day long at work.

[CrimsonCommando]

Will/can there be porn? Like ****-loving Sooners or Juggy Sooner Girls. I'd much rather see us include a deal with Vivid Entertainment to augment our revenues. And not that Texas cow-loving porn either.

[BudSooner]

If'n my friends and I can talk about Sooner Football for 24 hours, I'm pretty damb sure a TV network devoted to Sooner SPORTS will always have something planned. Hell, one of the most popular channels on XM radio is about freakin NASCAR. A bunch of rednecks driving in circles... and they talk left turns all day long on there. I know this because my coworker mistakenly thinks people care enough about it to turn that carp up full-blast all day long at work.
Not all rednecks apparently, it ranks 2nd to the NFL in number of people watching it unless there are rednecks in California/Oregon/New York etc.
Anyway back on topic....

A network dedicated to the Sooners may not have far lasting appeal that a Texas network would have, a BigX(or whatever)network on the other hand would have mass appeal since it would feature multiple schools.

I hope i'm wrong, and if this comes about then i'm hoping it works out for everyone.












Except Texas of course.:D

[Crucifax Autumn]

Yes...There are rednecks in all those places! lol

[BudSooner]

Yes...There are rednecks in all those places! lol
Not in Cali/Colorado, those are certified hippies sir..they have the paperwork to prove it.

[Leroy Lizard]

Not in Cali/Colorado, those are certified hippies sir..they have the paperwork to prove it.

Ever heard of Oildale, CA?

[BoulderSooner79]

I recently moved from Boulder to Cali and there are rednecks in both places. Doesn't appear that anything can be done about it.

[East Coast Bias]

Red-necks are everywhere man. You should see some of the no-teeth types up here in New Hampshire and Maine!! However my wife was impressed with the no-shirt and overalls types we saw on our last trip to Oklahoma.....

[sluggo sooner]

There may be as many Okies in Bakersfield and the surrounding area as there are in the entire State of Oklahoma.

[KantoSooner]

Move briskly, son, I hear banjo music...

[BudSooner]

Ever heard of Oildale, CA?
Can't say that I have, where is it....near Bakersfield?


I recently moved from Boulder to Cali and there are rednecks in both places. Doesn't appear that anything can be done about it.
RAID! Lots of it.:D

Red-necks are everywhere man. You should see some of the no-teeth types up here in New Hampshire and Maine!! However my wife was impressed with the no-shirt and overalls types we saw on our last trip to Oklahoma.....
Well, the next time I will wear a speedo then. Ain't nothing like a 250lb 5'10" fatass in a speedo eh? ;)


There may be as many Okies in Bakersfield and the surrounding area as there are in the entire State of Oklahoma.
Yeah, what is it about that town? Maybe it reminds them of Tulsa?


Move briskly, son, I hear banjo music...
Are you stuck in Fayetteville???:D

[KantoSooner]

Nope, but I'm 100% sure I don't want to squeal lakh a pig.

[oudivesherpa]

If it's a pay per view network and Bob Barry calls the game---do I get a refund?

[Leroy Lizard]

Can't say that I have, where is it....near Bakersfield?

Outskirts of Bakersfield. When I grew up there, it was as redneck as any place on the planet. (I'm a redneck myself.)

The entertainment was drag racing and drive-in bumping, where one would pull up behind a car in a drive in and bump it. The occupants would spill their food and drinks. If they got out to complain, fistfight!

Good times! :D

[BudSooner]

Outskirts of Bakersfield. When I grew up there, it was as redneck as any place on the planet. (I'm a redneck myself.)

The entertainment was drag racing and drive-in bumping, where one would pull up behind a car in a drive in and bump it. The occupants would spill their food and drinks. If they got out to complain, fistfight!

Good times! :D
Sounds like Pryor to me, god as my witness I saw two guys doing what appeared to be, getting in the stance to "tip a cow" this ain't no bull****, I saw that and about stopped to ask them the intelligence level of the two of them and this was on the northeast side of Pryor out in a field at about 8pm last month.

Oh, around here it's easy to spot rednecks...just look for the catfish heads on the fence posts in front of their house or trailer.:)

[hawaii 5-0]

There should be an Erin Higgins Network.


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