How would you cahnge this list of top 100 Sooners?

[stoopified]

This list was put out in a book by Sooner Illustrated a few years ago.I figured there could be some disagreement on the list as it stands and additions that should be made from recent Sooner History.

The list:

100 JOE GOLDING RB
99 Kelly Gregg DT
98 Mike Vaughn OT
97 Terry Crouch OG
96 Stephen Alexander TE
95 Dan Cody DE
94 Jackie Shipp LB
93 Jack Jacobs QB- DB
92 Ed Gray G
91 Leon Cross G-LB
90 Plato Andross G
89 Frankie Anderson E
88 Gilford Duggan T
87 Jerry Thompson G
86 Mark Hutson OG
85 Billy Brooks WR
84 Cedric Jones DT
83 Jim Grisham FB-LB
82 Dante Jones LB
81 Uwe Von Schaman K
80 Ken Mendenhall C
79 Kevin Murphy DE
78 George Thomas HB-DB
77 Forest Geyer FB/QB
76 Antonio Perkins CB-PR
75 Joe Don Looney HB-P
74 Bobby Warmack QB
73 Reggie Kinlaw NG
72 Zac Henderson S
71 Mike Gaddis RB
70 DEMON'D PARKER RB
69 Marcus Dupree RB
68 Claude Reeds FB/QB
67 Derland Moore DT
66 Jimbo Elrod DE
65 Bob Kalsu OT
64 Stan West G
63 Wade Walker T
62 Buck McPhail FB-LB
61 Jim Owens E
60 Steve Davis QB
59 Darrell Reed DE
58 Anthony Phillips OG
57 Frank Ivy E
56 Prentice Gautt RB-DB
55 Thomas Lott QB
54 Ralph Neely OT
53 Bob Harrison C-LB
52 Eddie Crowder QB-DB
51 JC Watts QB
50 Bo Bolinger G
49 Rick Bryan DT
48 Darryl Hunt LB
47 Jamelle Holieway QB
46 GREG PRUITT RB
45 Waddy Young E
44 Jack Mitchell QB-DB-PR
43 Greg Roberts OG
42 Tommie Harris DT
41 Quentin Griffin RB
40 Leon Heath FB
39 Mark Clayton WR
38 Tom Catlin C-LB
37 Carl McAdams C-LB
36 Rickey Dixon CB
35 JD Roberts G
34 Derrick Strait CB
33 Granville Liggins DT
32 Teddy Lehman LB
31 Randy Hughes S
30 Rocky Calmus LB
29 Jimmy Harris QB-DB
28 GERALD MCCOY DT
27 Tom Braheny C
26 George Cumby LB
25 Steve Zabel TE-DE
24 Lucious Selmon DT
23 Eddie Hinton WR
22 Kurt Burris C-LB
21 Dewey Selmon DT
20 JERMAINE GRESHAM TE
19 Paul Burris G
18 SAM BRADFORD QB
17 Jason White QB
16 Josh Heupel QB
15 Jim Weatherall OT
14 Tony Casillas DT
13 Jack Mildren QB
12 Rod Shoate LB
11 Tommy McDonald HB-DB
10 Brian Bosworth LB
9 ADRAIAN PETERSON RB
8 Keith Jackson TE
7 Jerry Tubbs C-LB
6 Roy Williams S
5 Steve Owens RB
4 Joe Washington RB
3 Billy Sims RB
2 Billy Vessels RB
1 Lee Roy Selmon DT


While I might quibble with the order of this top 100 there are only 2 players I think DO NOT belong; Dupree and LooneY.Both were only at OU a year and a half before Dupree quit the team and Looney was booted from the team.IIMHO both had a greater NEGATIVE impact on OU then positive and therefore should NOT be anywhere on this list.

Given the passage of time I would also say that there have ben several players in the last few years who should be included on this list,among them - Gerald McCoy,Sam Bradford,Jermaine Gresham,Adrian Peterson.Leaving Dupree and Looney off would open 2spots and I think Billy Brooks and Tinker Owens while both fine players aren't quite Top 100 material.That would allow me to bring in all my new additions.

All the players mentioned are great players and I don't think any less of the players I leave off my top 100 (except Dupree,Looney) But there can only be 100 players in the top 100.On the other hand if you expand the list to 150 or 200 there would still be great players left out.

Any how I have now modified the list as I best see it,all CAPS indicate players who have been moved or added.BTE Albq Paul BUDDY Burris is on the original list at #29.

For those of you who would keep Looney and Dupree?I'm sorry,I just can't see them as GREAT SOONERS over team first players,many of whom had much better stats and careers.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

That's a crazy list. I would do better to break it down by position. You have to include Dupree and Looney though. They were incredible.

It seems like we always have a great running back, DT and linebacker.

[Leroy Lizard]

I would have Bosworth at #2. And Steve Davis and Jimmy Harris should be much higher.

Where should we put Sam Bradford?

[diegosooner]

Maybe Joe Washington #1 for me.

[tulsaoilerfan]

Maybe Joe Washington #1 for me.

Great, great player but Lee Roy was the best

[tulsaoilerfan]

I also think Lehman at 32 is way too high

[Salt City Sooner]

Parker's wayyy too low for my taste. He was the first back in OU history to have three 1,000 yard seasons (joined later by AD), & he has the 10th highest average per carry overall. This, all despite his playing time at OU being marred by A) never playing on a winning team, & B)other teams having a MAJOR bullseye on his back due to him being OU's only consistent threat at that time. I have often wondered what kind of numbers he'd have put up with all that wide open space that Leach's offense employed in '99.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

Parker's wayyy too low for my taste. He was the first back in OU history to have three 1,000 yard seasons (joined later by AD), & he has the 10th highest average per carry overall. This, all despite his playing time at OU being marred by A) never playing on a winning team, & B)other teams having a MAJOR bullseye on his back due to him being OU's only consistent threat at that time. I have often wondered what kind of numbers he'd have put up with all that wide open space that Leach's offense employed in '99.


This list is really tricky. I wouldn't have put him that low either. He was a shining star in a dark era. James Allen was pretty good too though.

[MI Sooner]

Not sure why Roy Williams is that much higher than Tommie Harris. One of them should be moved. Bosworth and White too low. And Parker, as others noted, is too low (ahead of Gaddis and Dupree for sure).

[oudavid1]

If i was gonna cahnge this list i would spell change right for starters :P

[okienole3]

Sam and GKM are both top 10 sooners for me.

[Breadburner]

Kelly Gregg should be higher....

[Captain Cob Mob]

I know I don't really have a say in this, but Jamelle Holieway at 47??? Are you freeking kidding me? That guy was the bane of my life back in High School.

[Jason White's Third Knee]

I know I don't really have a say in this, but Jamelle Holieway at 47??? Are you freeking kidding me? That guy was the bane of my life back in High School.


That list is too tough to deal with. Like I said, maybe if they sort it out by position I could make sense of it. How do you compare a 160lb lineman that went both ways with a 340lb tackle? Hell if I know.

[Leroy Lizard]

I don't see Thomas Lott being rated over Steve Davis. I just don't see it.

[AlbqSooner]

I would add Buddy Burris

[pweitkem]

Drop Cody and put Danny Bradley on that list... one of the greatest optoin quarterbacks ever.

[stoopified]

That list is too tough to deal with. Like I said, maybe if they sort it out by position I could make sense of it. How do you compare a 160lb lineman that went both ways with a 340lb tackle? Hell if I know.I agree it is a tough list to make BUT the book is great to have.It has pictures of each player and bios. Must have for Sooner Fans-100 GREATEST SOONERS,some of the Sooner memorabilia shops still have copies.With so many great players in Sooner history as I said before even if you expanded it to 150 or even 200 some players get left off.As for the order they belong in? Personal preference,historical impact,statistical measure ,all figure in somewhere.

[texaspokieokie]

Greg Pruitt has to be higher !!! Remember 9.36 yards per carry.

i deduct from the value of guys that left early, like Boz & RW, altho i don't blame them at all. who doesn't want to be a millionaire.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Ricky Bryan is too low

[texaspokieokie]

I'd put Bob Kalsu @ the top & list Granville as NG.

[Mississippi Sooner]

I would add Buddy Burris

He's on there at number 19, but they have him under his given name of Paul.

[Mississippi Sooner]

That's a crazy list. I would do better to break it down by position. You have to include Dupree and Looney though. They were incredible.

It seems like we always have a great running back, DT and linebacker.

They had a segment on Marcus Dupree on the local news station here yesterday. He was hosting a football clinic in Philadelphia, MS. They had all these little kids on there, none of them old enough to remember Dupree from his playing days, talking about what a great influence he is and how he can teach them so much. Yes, Dupree is still thought of as a local legend around here.

Funny thing is, Dupree was saying that he has started these football camps because ESPN has a special coming out about his life later this year, and he wants to take full advantage of the free publicity. I'm thinking, the publicity he gets from that special probably isn't going to paint him in the best light.

[TheUnnamedSooner]

Good list. I would however swap #'s 87 & 86. ;)

[BoulderSooner79]

Good list. I would however swap #'s 87 & 86. ;)

That suggestion is too absurd to be taken seriously. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were off by one and meant to swap #87 and #88.

[Soonermagik]

Peterson has to be top 5. He racked up crazy amounts of yards while being hurt almost every season.

Not only that, but he's done it on the pro stage too. If Peterson can continue to stay healthy he looks to be the best pro player to ever come out of OU. Heck, he was the pro-bowl mvp in his first season if memory serves me correctly.

[Leroy Lizard]

Peterson has to be top 5. He racked up crazy amounts of yards while being hurt almost every season.

Good reasoning.


Not only that, but he's done it on the pro stage too.

Bad reasoning.

[acretaker]

I put Murray, Beal and Broyels in the top 100.

[cantwait48]

should Jamaal Brown be on here somewhere?

[stoopified]

I put Murray, Beal and Broyels in the top 100. I agree

[Knippz]

I'd put Sam in the top 10 for sure. A Heisman and greatest season ever for an OU QB is worth something. I'd have Broyles and Murray on that list as well.

[Eielson]

Sam and GKM are both top 10 sooners for me.

I agree with Sam. I wouldn't put GKM that high, though. I'd probably put Harris above him.

[sooner59]

18 SAM BRADFORD QB ----> Set records, Heisman, took OU to a MNC
17 Jason White QB ----> Set records, Heisman, took OU to 2 MNCs
16 Josh Heupel QB ----> Set records, Heisman Runner-Up, won OU #7 MNC
15 Jim Weatherall OT ----> Who? OT? WTF?

This list is invalid.

[texaspokieokie]

i'd put in all new guys, if they were so much as "honorable mention"
all big-12 & kick out all the old guys if they were born before 1950.
:D

[prrriiide]

Wondering why neither of the Lashars made the list. Uwe was a great PK, but I think both Tim & R.D. were as good or better statistically. So if you put Uwe on the list, you need to give a nod to the Lashar bros.

[texaspokieokie]

list will have to be expanded, at least 10 fold.

[DRLSooner]

Dante Jones is waaaaaaaaay too low IMO

[cyclonesooner]

I would have to drop Dupree and Looney.
Would rate Greg Pruitt much higher. Also Dante Jones is too low along with Tommie Harris. Not real sure I could rate Dewey ahead of Lucious.
No way I put Vessels ahead of Billy Sims and A. Peterson

[soonergolfer]

Impossible. How bout taking the top 10 at each position.

[JLEW1818]

1) M. Kelly

[StoopTroup]

1) Nate Hybl of course Landry will be number one once he gets us a Fiesta win. :D

[Eielson]

1) Nate Hybl of course Landry will be number one once he gets us a Fiesta win. :D

Nate Hybl won the Rose Bowl for us!

[JLEW1818]

Give me your top 5 OU WR's ever

[Leroy Lizard]

From the players I have seen:

1. Tinker Owens (I don't care about stats.)
2. Clayton
3. Broyles
4. Kelly
5. Carl Cabbiness (I don't care about stats.)

[soonerstan56]

Wow, what a list to try and make. At most schools it would be much easier.
I can't see any players on it that aren't deserving,but many that aren't on it that may be.
If you see a player that you aren't farmiliar with do a little research and you'll see their merits.
We are all victims of our era of recollection. I.E. Kenny King was the most explosive fullback I've ever seen!

Stan

[bikerdood]

Greg Pruitt has to be higher !!! Remember 9.36 yards per carry.

i deduct from the value of guys that left early, like Boz & RW, altho i don't blame them at all. who doesn't want to be a millionaire....

...^^^ This

[Sooner Cal]

With all due respect, I pretty much disagree with the whole thing inso far as the rankings are concerned. No way would I rank Heuple ahead of White and both ahead of Sam.

Where is David Overstreet? Elvis Peacock? If you watched either Liggins or Hinton, you'd rank them much higher.

Tommy McDonald could have played for the 1975 team.

Uwe wasn't even Switzers best kicker.

Derrick Sherperd and Charles Thompson should be considered as well. So should Steve Sewell and Lydell Carr.

[texaspokieokie]

From the players I have seen:

1. Tinker Owens (I don't care about stats.)
2. Clayton
3. Broyles
4. Kelly
5. Carl Cabbiness (I don't care about stats.)

don't forget Eddie Hinton.

[SpankyNek]

Cedric Jones should be higher.

I believe he still holds the OU sack record.

Granville Liggins should be higher as well.

Also Kelly Gregg is undervalued.

[kelloggOUballa]

Adrian Peterson is the best football player I have ever seen, period.