Cinderella or legitimate contender?

[Jacie]

Talking about Boise State.

Since they have garnered a Preseason 25 rank of 3, is playing them still considered a no-win situation, regardless of the opponent?

If they go 12-0, are they crashing the BCS or do they belong in the championship game ahead of any big six conference 1-loss team?

[OK2U]

They play Va-Tech and Oregon St. but have a pretty weak schedule otherwise.
They do, however, deserve a shot at the title, but God help us if they manage to win.

[madillsoonerfan5353]

Legitimate! Lets face it a win over Oklahoma will get you a long way! Just ask Bill Stewart of WV! But they have started to play better teams.

:pop:

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

I hate to say it but I think if they go undefeated they will get the bid to play in the MNC. They had to fight up the rankings the last few years but now they are sitting at 3 to begin with. BUT, if two big 6 conference teams go undefeated, they will be the odd man out. It's just hard for me to see any team outside the big 6 conferences getting the bid for a MNC because in the big conferences, there's a very large difference in playing your conference schedule in the Big 12 or SEC. I'll take playing San Jose St, Idaho, and Louisiana Tech as bottom feeders in the WAC over playing Baylor, Colorado, Kansas, Vanderbilt, or Mississippi St. To me, that's the major difference. The schedule difficulty that the big conferences have week in and week out is vastly more difficult and is the trump card IMO

[sooner ngintunr]

Va Tech is gonna smash them in the mouth.

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

Legitimate! Lets face it a win over Oklahoma will get you a long way! Just ask Bill Stewart of WV! But they have started to play better teams.

:pop:

While I do agree, the win over us is not near as pretty as the world wants to make it out to be. We were BARELY a top 10 team that year and lost the starting QB weeks before the start of the season as well as a starting O lineman. Yes, it was an upset but looking closely at it.....it's not like they beat the 2000, 2003, 2004, or 2008 Sooners.......they beat the 8th best team we had this decade.

[soonermix]

i say legit contender but not a serious contender.
take away the name and conference and i say any undefeated team in d-1a deserves a shot but are they really the best team in the nation? maybe not but maybe so. they don't ask me to rank teams at the end of the year

[madillsoonerfan5353]

I hate to say it but I think if they go undefeated they will get the bid to play in the MNC. They had to fight up the rankings the last few years but now they are sitting at 3 to begin with. BUT, if two big 6 conference teams go undefeated, they will be the odd man out. It's just hard for me to see any team outside the big 6 conferences getting the bid for a MNC because in the big conferences, there's a very large difference in playing your conference schedule in the Big 12 or SEC. I'll take playing San Jose St, Idaho, and Louisiana Tech as bottom feeders in the WAC over playing Baylor, Colorado, Kansas, Vanderbilt, or Mississippi St. To me, that's the major difference. The schedule difficulty that the big conferences have week in and week out is vastly more difficult and is the trump card IMO

^^^This! I just don't think 2 big 6 schools will go undefeated.

I think we play Boise in Zona for the whole bowl of wax!

:pop:

[madillsoonerfan5353]

While I do agree, the win over us is not near as pretty as the world wants to make it out to be. We were BARELY a top 10 team that year and lost the starting QB weeks before the start of the season as well as a starting O lineman. Yes, it was an upset but looking closely at it.....it's not like they beat the 2000, 2003, 2004, or 2008 Sooners.......they beat the 8th best team we had this decade.

I agree 100%, but in the age we live in the talking head control everthing! If Marcus Walker would of just run out of bounds or took a knee at the 1 yard line we wouldn't be talking about Boise! :texan:

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

I agree 100%, but in the age we live in the talking head control everthing! If Marcus Walker would of just run out of bounds or took a knee at the 1 yard line we wouldn't be talking about Boise! :texan:

oh so true, the talking heads control way too much and they've been successful in manipulating things except for 08 with us getting in. Marcus did what he should have done bc our D played so well in the second half, any of us would have been happy to put a 7 point lead on our D with around a minute to play. It just makes me sick to hear how much they say it was a huge upset when it's not like we were a spectacular team that year. That team may have had the most heart of any Sooner squad of the Stoops Era....up there with the 2000 team.

[KantoSooner]

I really hate to be this way, but this whole conversation goes away when everybody on our team, every down, plays to destroy the opposition. Way too much in the way of guys shaking their heads and saying 'shucks' at the end of plays of late.

[Harry Beanbag]

Va Tech is gonna smash them in the mouth.

I would hate to ever hang my hopes on Va Tech smashing anybody in the mouth.

[BigTime1]

They dont deserve anything close to a shot at the NC. Yes they have played well and yes they have found a way to beat 1 or 2 decent to good teams a year. But would they do it week in and week out? Would they be able to bring it every week against a legit competitor? When you play everybody elses preseason sched. all year sure your record looks great. If they played an avg. Big 12 or SEC sched they would be beat 3-4 times and I think at least 2 of those...emberassed. They may have the talent to get up for a big game but there is a lot of difference in doing it 1 week of the year and doing it 11 or 12

[cvsooner]

They're legit. Their downfall is probably depth. If they played a tougher schedule they'd have serious problems contending...but right now they benefit from their standing and their conference and they'll get a reasonable shot at it. Destroying TCU in the Fiesta didn't help keep them down.

[yankee]

if you hate the BCS like myself, you have to root for boise to get to the MNC...i just hope we're there to meet them (and beat them, this time). :D

[badger]

Go ahead and put em in the title game... WITH US.

Finally, a BCS victory shall be ours! :D

[silverwheels]

Va Tech is gonna smash them in the mouth.

Maybe. Virginia Tech never starts off that hot.

[sooner ngintunr]

Maybe. Virginia Tech never starts off that hot.

Yeah you are right.

It's just that I have Va Tech undefeated this year.:confused:

I would also like nothing more than this BSU conversation to be over within the first week of the season, that would be cool with me.

[SoonerLB]

I would hate to ever hang my hopes on Va Tech smashing anybody in the mouth.

I agree, and Boise has a pretty good QB to lead them as I remember.

They could be good, but they ain't gonna be Oklahoma good! :)

[JLEW1818]

with this new liberal socialist group, if Boise runs the table, they should get in the title game.

[MojoRisen]

They should get in, they have beaten some good teams the last few years - ie Oregon the last 2.

I believe they will smoke VA Tech and we won't hear the end of them all year which will suck unless we play them. VA Tech beating similar to what LSU did to them

[PLaw]

Talking about Boise State.

Since they have garnered a Preseason 25 rank of 3, is playing them still considered a no-win situation, regardless of the opponent?

If they go 12-0, are they crashing the BCS or do they belong in the championship game ahead of any big six conference 1-loss team?

Yeah, I hope they go 12-0 and we get another shot at them in the MNC. That said, I think their SOS will keep them out of THE Game.

BOOMER

[IronHorseSooner]

If there are two or more undefeated Big 6 teams, they won't get it. Their toughest game is VA Tech, which is like us playing UTerus, or 'Bama playing FLA. Their second toughest is about like us playing FSU, or 'Bama playing PSU. After that....crickets chirping. We play USAFA, Cincy, A&M, Tech, Mizzou, ISU (Bowl team), and OSU. Then we would have a CCG. 'Bama is very similar. Heck, whoever wins the ACC, PAC-10, or Big 10/11 is better off. That's why I just don't see it. BTW, I firmly believe that if they don't make it this year, they won't make it unless they reform the BCS or abolish it.

[delhalew]

I'm in the camp that wants them in the fiesta bowl. Retribution!!

[Stitch Face]

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[OUmillenium]

Well, Cindarella is awesome but they can't contend with Van Halen.

[MR2-Sooner86]

Maybe. There are probably a couple of years they could hang with a national championship team. HOWEVER lets look at it this way...

What is the best Boise State team of the past decade? 2006? 2010 if they win out?

Ok lets look at past national champions of the decade.

2000 OU
2001 Miami
2003 LSU
2004 USC
2005 Texas
2008 Florida
2009 Alabama

Now, how would the best Boise team do against those championship teams if they were given a shot at them?

[BoulderSooner79]

with this new liberal socialist group, if Boise runs the table, they should get in the title game.

What the heck does that mean? You got liberal on the brain - turn off fox news and go play outside for a change.

[Stitch Face]

What the heck does that mean? You got liberal on the brain - turn off fox news and go play outside for a change.

Probably something to do with Obama saying he would 'throw his weight around' to get a playoff implemented.

And I didn't even hear that on Fox news.

[JLEW1818]

donks

[SOONERJOSHUA]

HA they would lose by 21 or more by each team and shut out by us unless we score on ourselves!!!

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

They should get in, they have beaten some good teams the last few years - ie Oregon the last 2.

I totally agree...they should get in the 2011 BCS National Championship game based on the merits of last year's teams. ;) :D

[BoulderSooner79]

BSU has been legit for several seasons now. They were very closely matched with TCU last season but were the better team due to better execution. They return just about everyone, but they did lose probably their best defensive player. But if 2 teams out of the SEC, Big12, Big10 or Pac10 go undefeated, they will lose out on SOS. I think they could survive undefeated teams from the Big east or ACC and certainly other non-BCSers.

[BoulderSooner79]

Probably something to do with Obama saying he would 'throw his weight around' to get a playoff implemented.

And I didn't even hear that on Fox news.

The question was whether BSU was legit. Jlew's one of the more entertaining posters around here, but he's been all cranky lately. He knows what I mean - when I got that way my mom told me to play outside and she was right.

[soonerspudman]

BSU is legit considering their accomlishments over the past five years and and 21 out of 22 returning starters back.

That said, it's totally stupid we're forced to have these retarted BCS scenario discussions for another year. Let's get a playoff and fix this crap.

[JLEW1818]

i guess the game against Virginia Tech got moved to the season opener. Was suppose to be on October 2nd.

The game will be played Monday, the 6th at night on ESPN.

[GKeeper316]

^^^This! I just don't think 2 big 6 schools will go undefeated.

I think we play Boise in Zona for the whole bowl of wax!

:pop:
o sweet revenge

[SOONERJOSHUA]

That would be a blowout!

[DakotaSooner]

oh so true, the talking heads control way too much and they've been successful in manipulating things except for 08 with us getting in. Marcus did what he should have done bc our D played so well in the second half, any of us would have been happy to put a 7 point lead on our D with around a minute to play. It just makes me sick to hear how much they say it was a huge upset when it's not like we were a spectacular team that year. That team may have had the most heart of any Sooner squad of the Stoops Era....up there with the 2000 team.

Totally agree and I can't read anymore posts on this topic because it makes me angry.