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Okla-homey
5/5/2010, 06:30 AM
Provided as a service to my homies. You can be the person at your table who knows when someone asks, "WTF is Cinco de Mayo about anyway?" Here's the scoop on Cinco de Mayo -- and it ain't Mexican Independence Day.

And folks, if there's anything inaccurate or non-PC in the below, or if, in the reader's view, it does not include the proper treatment of some ethnic and/or racial element's role in the below event , the reader is invited to prepare a formal complaint and submit same to our customer service department.

May 5, 1862: A Mexican Victory in the Franco-Mexican War

148 years ago on this day in 1862, and while the French-Mexican War raged, a poorly supplied and outnumbered Mexican army was fighting for its life. General Ignacio Zaragoza pulled the proverbial rabbit out of his feathered hat defeating a French army attempting to capture Puebla de Los Angeles, a small town in east-central Mexico.

Victory at the Battle of Puebla represented a great moral victory for the Mexican government, symbolizing the country's ability to defend its sovereignty against a European power. It still inspires millions of Norte Americanos to drink copious amounts of Corona and eat "cheeps and salsa" on this day. Some gringos drink tequila to excess on Cinco de Mayo and wake-up on Seis de Mayo swearing to never drink again.

Here's how the Franco-Mexican War got started in the first place.

In the wake of its disasterous war with the United States a little over 10 years earlier, the Mexican government was still broke. Flat busted. In 1861, the liberal Mexican Benito Juarez became president of the financially ruined country and he was forced to default on Mexican overseas debts to European governments.

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President Benito Juarez
Benito Juarez, probably the best and purest presidente the Mex's ever had.

In response, France, Britain, and Spain deployed their "collections departments" -- naval forces that is, to Veracruz to demand reimbursement. Britain and Spain negotiated with Mexico and withdrew, but France, ruled by Napoleon III, decided to use the opportunity to carve a dependent empire out of Mexican territory.

Late in 1861, a well-armed French fleet stormed Veracruz, landing a large French force and driving President Juarez and his panicked government into retreat.

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Certain that French victory would come swiftly in Mexico, 6,000 French troops under General Charles Latrille de Lorencez set out to attack Puebla de Los Angeles.

From his new headquarters in the north, the Mexican President Juarez rounded up a rag-tag force of loyal men and sent them to Puebla. Led by Texas-born Mexican General Zaragoza, the 2,000 Mexicans fortified the town and prepared for the French assault.

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Zaragoza

On the fifth of May, 1862, Lorencez drew his army, well-provisioned and supported by heavy artillery, before the city of Puebla and began their assault from the north. If you've been in the military, you know there is a time-honored piece of doctrine that says you normally need a 3:1 force ratio in order to defeat a fortified enemy. The Froggy General Lorencez had that --6000 Frenchies to 2000 Mexicans. He lost because he was an arrogant French horses ***.

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Opening of the battle. The Mexicans under Zaragoza occupied the heights. The French repeatedly hurled themselves at them from below.

Lorencez thought so little of his Mexican "peon" enemy, he ordered repeated direct frontal assaults into the heart of the Mexicans' prepared defenses, which allowed the Mexicans a convenient method of killing a lot of Frenchies. The battle lasted from daybreak to early evening, and when the French finally retreated they had lost nearly 500 soldiers to the fewer than 100 Mexicans killed.

Victory at the Battle of Puebla represented a great moral victory for the Mexican government, symbolizing the country's ability to defend its sovereignty against a European power.

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Retreating from Puebla, the French were attacked by hundreds of Mexican native people armed mostly with machetes...and suffered many more casualties as they were repeatedly ambushed and hacked to death.

Although not a major strategic victory in the overall war against the French, Zaragoza's victory at Puebla tightened Mexican resistance. Good thing too, because that autumn, the enraged French showed up with 25,000 recently arrived reinforcements and kicked the hell out of the Mexican Army (which had shriveled to only about 6000 dudes by then) for a couple years. The war would continue at total of another six years before France withdrew.

In 1864, two years after the battle, Puebla de Los Angeles, the site of Zaragoza's historic victory, was renamed Puebla de Zaragoza in honor of the general. Today, Mexicans celebrate the anniversary of the Battle of Puebla as Cinco de Mayo, a national holiday in Mexico.

Important contextual sidenote:

As an aside, it is important to remember that the United States was embroiled in its own Civil War during this period. In fact, Lincoln would have liked to help the Juarista government because he knew the French under Napolean III hated the United States.

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Napolean III, nephew of Bonaparte. Emperor of France.

Lincoln knew if the French were succesful in their conquest of Mexico, they would be in a good position to aid the Confederacy in its war with the United States.

Unfortunately for the Mexicans, Lincoln had his hands full with the Civil War and was not able to provide much help to Juarez. Fortunately for the United States, Juarez was able to defend his country, thus making it impossible for the French in Mexico to provide any assistance to Confederate forces.

There you have it. Cinco de Mayo. An Important day in Mexican AND United States history.

BTW, REAL Mexican Independence Day is on September 18.

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Jacie
5/5/2010, 07:14 AM
May 5, 1995: Massive hailstorm causes a billion dollars worth of damage in the DFW area, mostly in FW, as grapefruit-sized hail stones punched out car windshields and damaged roofs. It swept through around 7 p.m. on a Friday night, causing injuries to people at Cinco de Mayo street parties who were caught outside as the front came through. This storm and another one a week later raised insurance rates in the state of Texas . . .

TUSooner
5/5/2010, 08:48 AM
Nice one.
May 5 is also the anniversary of the birth of my paternal grandfather. I believe he would have been 110.

85Sooner
5/5/2010, 09:43 AM
Lets change this to celebrate something different.
As a citizen of the United States, I think I will bypass a foreign mini holiday and forget the tequila and enchiladas. Instead I will celebrate with a hot dog and a beer that TODAY IN UNITED STATES HISTORY in 1904, Pitching
against the Philadelphia Athletics at the Huntington Avenue Grounds, Cy Young
of the Boston Americans throws the first perfect
game in the modern era of baseball. AMERICAS FAV PAST- TIME

Jacie
5/5/2010, 09:45 AM
I forgot, which era are we in now?

StoopTroup
5/5/2010, 09:56 AM
BTW....yesterday was "Stars Wars Day"...








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May the 4th be with you. :D

OUMallen
5/5/2010, 11:45 AM
Hidenburg

Flagstaffsooner
5/5/2010, 11:57 AM
Bestest holiday in Flagstaff. The Messicans have an all day fiesta in the parking lot of an abandoned grey meat grocery store/swap mart building and end up shooting each other by the end of the night.

Harry Beanbag
5/5/2010, 12:42 PM
Sounds awesome. Any chance you could join them?


He'd said he would meet you there.

Harry Beanbag
5/5/2010, 01:01 PM
You should take my place since you're in the 480.

Wouldn't make sense, Flag wouldn't shoot me. :)

OhU1
5/5/2010, 01:02 PM
I'm confused Homey, where is the "rah rah white man" history or "American wins the war" angle in what you posted above? :confused: :rolleyes:

TMcGee86
5/5/2010, 01:38 PM
May 5, 1995: Massive hailstorm causes a billion dollars worth of damage in the DFW area, mostly in FW, as grapefruit-sized hail stones punched out car windshields and damaged roofs. It swept through around 7 p.m. on a Friday night, causing injuries to people at Cinco de Mayo street parties who were caught outside as the front came through. This storm and another one a week later raised insurance rates in the state of Texas . . .

I was there, it was nuts. Every windshield on I-20 was smashed. Crazy night.

Flagstaffsooner
5/5/2010, 01:45 PM
Sounds awesome. Any chance you could join them?I shoot back.

Harry Beanbag
5/5/2010, 01:57 PM
I'm confused Homey, where is the "rah rah white man" history or "American wins the war" angle in what you posted above? :confused: :rolleyes:


It was towards then end. ;)

stoopified
5/5/2010, 03:20 PM
Homey did that 2,000 man Messican army travelin 2 Conestogas or 3? Oh darn, I've done it now,KC and the PC police will be after ME. :D

olevetonahill
5/5/2010, 03:35 PM
This was their Method of Transporting men and Supplies :D

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stoopified
5/5/2010, 04:13 PM
This was their Method of Transporting men and Supplies :D

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uXDMPKN0Bjo/R4Gl0SocxsI/AAAAAAAAATY/1YlHm79C-vk/s400/Burros%2Bwith%2Bfirewood.JPGSo they were Democrats? :D

Flagstaffsooner
5/5/2010, 04:29 PM
So they were Democrats? :DWell they were some kind of jackasses.

Okla-homey
5/5/2010, 04:42 PM
This was their Method of Transporting men and Supplies :D

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Funny, but those beasts (namely asses and mules) were the primary means of transporting military supplies in rough country long after the invention of the automobile.

Also why West Point's mascot is an "Army Mule"

As a perhaps interesting aside, I attended staff college with an Army Chemical Corps major who, with the end of the Cold War against the USSR and its satellites in the old Warsaw Pact THAT WE WON, needed to find something else to do.

The Army sent him to work at the U.N. -- which he hated because the place is full of lying, duplicitous sacks of crap who are only there to line their pockets -- but I digress. My buddy was assigned the task of buying asses and mules from breeders in the US and sending them to various UN missions around the Third World.

Therefore, I know a guy who got paid by his government to buy a$$. So I got that going for me.

Flagstaffsooner
5/5/2010, 04:57 PM
Homey did that 2,000 man Messican army travelin 2 Conestogas or 3? Oh darn, I've done it now,KC and the PC police will be after ME. :DThat was 3 '75 Buick Electra's, I don't want to have to tell you again, damnit!