The 2010 NBA Playoffs

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I remember that...I hated the pistons and thomas and he did that against my Lakers...if the Pistons had won that series, I would have hated him even more...

and his 16 points in a minute and change was pretty darn impressive also

[Collier11]

Collier, you are reaching a bit if you're taking points from Colin Cowherd.

I'm sure LeBron is dinged up. Well, tough ****. I saw Isiah once go for 25 on a badly sprained ankle. IN ONE QUARTER!

Notice I said I dont agree, just said it was interesting that he would think such a thing during game 5 of the playoffs

[Sooner04]

Notice I said I dont agree, just said it was interesting that he would think such a thing during game 5 of the playoffs
Sorry, I was so stunned to learn you were listening to Cowherd that it fried my circuits for a minute.

[Collier11]

I usually dont, actually I dont even like the guy. I was on my way to 7-11 lastnite and just happened to have ESPN on the radio

[JLEW1818]

i wonder if 2 Celtics fans drugged lebron up.... (Celtic pride)

[yankee]

time to see what the king is made of...

[Collier11]

Lebron watch :D

9pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 2 stls Cavs down 3

[JLEW1818]

The king who has no rings....

King of Mexico I guess

[Collier11]

That line is used up, lots of Great players have no rings, he is only 25. If he doesnt have a ring or 2 by 30 then I will be with you

[Collier11]

Mo Williams has played like a bum in this series, what has ever happened to Gibson, he was a stud in the playoffs the yr the Cavs made the finals

[Collier11]

Lebron watch :D

9pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 2 stls Cavs down 3

12 pts, 6 reb, 5 ast, 2 stls Cavs down 2 at HT even though he didnt do much damage in the 2nd qt

[yankee]

Mo Williams has played like a bum in this series, what has ever happened to Gibson, he was a stud in the playoffs the yr the Cavs made the finals

he's played a good game tonight.

but it's the only one of the series where i can say that...

james hasn't played like he did in the 1st quarter.

[Collier11]

James has had a ton of bad TOs and isnt being aggressive enough, again

[Collier11]

just as I type that, James hits two straight 3s

[Collier11]

Rasheed Wallace, million dollar talent and a 10 cent brain but tonight he has shown up big time

[Eielson]

The only funnier pick than the Cavs winning it is the Mavs winning it.

Just wanted to brag.

[JLEW1818]

this is what i preach about the king

[Collier11]

27 , 19, 10...some bad turnovers though

[My Opinion Matters]

Wow. The Cavs just quit. Unbelievable. If I was a Cavs fan I would be disgusted.

[JLEW1818]

lol

[JLEW1818]

The King with ZERO rings, had 9 turnovers tonight ... lol greatness !!!

[yankee]

...and a triple double.

[Eielson]

...and a triple double.

Almost a quadruple-double.

[Collier11]

I just realized we are gonna have to listen to 4 months of "Where is Lebron going?" BS, dammit!!!

[Collier11]

Interesting, Simmons just tweeted that if Lebron stays in Cleveland he will insist that Ferry and Brown be gone, I thought Lebron was a Brown guy? I wonder what coach they would go after?

[JLEW1818]

Almost a quadruple-double.

yep, 9 turnovers

[My Opinion Matters]

I'd say 95% Lebron leaves Cleveland now. He's never going to win a championship there.

[JLEW1818]

Interesting, Simmons just tweeted that if Lebron stays in Cleveland he will insist that Ferry and Brown be gone, I thought Lebron was a Brown guy? I wonder what coach they would go after?

shaq will be gone after this year.

i could see him going to like a dallas or spurs maybe? who knows

Mo is a good player.

I've never been big on Jamison.

Mike Brown, suicide watch..... i just don't get how u can fire a coach who has won the league (regular season) 2 years in a row..... (i don't care for Brown)

[My Opinion Matters]

This Cavs team was constructed to beat the Magic and the Lakers.

Cleveland Front Office: lol oops! We forgot about the Celtics! Sorry guys!

[JLEW1818]

lol... i still think the cavs would lose to LA and Orlando

idk who would not think that


i think your joking tho .. haha

[My Opinion Matters]

shaq will be gone after this year.

i could see him going to like a dallas or spurs maybe? who knows

Mo is a good player.

I've never been big on Jamison.

Mike Brown, suicide watch..... i just don't get how u can fire a coach who has won the league (regular season) 2 years in a row..... (i don't care for Brown)

Shaq is done. Jamison showed his true colors in this series, he's nothing but a soft player that fills up the stat line in the regular season. Mo Williams is a scrapper, but he's not a true point guard and isn't anything but the third or fourth best option on an elite team.

No more excuses for Lebron though. The responsibilty for the failure in this series is laid at his feet.

[My Opinion Matters]

lol... i still think the cavs would lose to LA and Orlando

idk who would not think that


i think your joking tho .. haha

I absoultely think this Cavs team could have beaten the Lakers. The Magic...I don't know. It would have been a tremendous series. The only reason the Cavs went out and got Shaq was for this Orlando series they'll never get to play.

[JLEW1818]

sorry disagree 382175239085723252353235 percent.

the cavs would not have beat the lakers or magic, in a series.

[Collier11]

they matched up better with Lakers than Magic for sure, with the way they just played though I dont know

[JLEW1818]

the cavs just are not a great playoff team.....

as Step told me... the cavs don't have a guy who gets better in postseason.

look at Ariza for LA last year.

Rondo and Tony Allen this year, for boston

[Collier11]

The problem is that the Cavs dont have anyone who can take over when Lebron is struggling. Jamison proved to be a softy, Mo was too inconsistent, Shaq is old, etc...

[My Opinion Matters]

I think Boston is being undersold in all of this, at the beginning of this thread I mentioned they're kind a mystery team, and have that "sleeping giant" element to them. I really didn't know if they had it in them to flip the switch and upset the Cavs, but now that they have I would definitely watch out for them.

I'll go on record right now, if the Magic win the next series, the Lakers will be champs again. If the Celtics get past the Magic, they'll beat the Lakers.

[Collier11]

The Celts have a ton of talent, they kind of BSd their way thru the regular season but they are a really good team, make no bones about it

[JLEW1818]

keep in mind

Boston took Orlando 7 games last year, without KG

[Collier11]

yessir

[yankee]

hahaha rumor going around that delonte west slept with lebron's mother.


that's about as ridiculous of a rumor that i think i've ever heard.

[Collier11]

Delonte is a POS thug, not sure why he is even in the league anymore

[JLEW1818]

yah AI ish

[Eielson]

I think Boston is being undersold in all of this

I only think this was an issue with those who were so in love with Lebron that they were crazy enough to think the Cavs would win it all. Jlew and I weren't, and we correctly picked that the Cavs would struggle.

[Collier11]

AI early career, possibly going to prison

[yankee]

Delonte is a POS thug, not sure why he is even in the league anymore

yah, i remember right before the season he was arrested with guns in his guitar case while riding a motorcycle? something crazy like that...god knows what he was doing. it was so outlandish, i loled for like 10 minutes straight.

[Collier11]

and he is still waiting for his trial I believe

[JLEW1818]

so the playoffs continue

any updated predictions?

I'm still sticking with my preseason, Lakers over Magic pick.

[Collier11]

Orlando vs Phx...Im going to continue doubting LA :D

[JLEW1818]

i did last year too.... especially when the Yao, tmac less rockets took them 7


during the game last night... did you ever get the feeling that neither team really looked great"?

[Collier11]

the whole game

[JohnnyMack]

Either the NBA is shrouded in parity, or none of the teams are elite. I can't figure out which.

[Scott D]

The Celts have a ton of talent, they kind of BSd their way thru the regular season but they are a really good team, make no bones about it

keep in mind that they got off to a pretty hot start (25-7 I think), before they went through a string of injuries to KG, Pierce and Rondo among others. They're healthy again right now, and that's what makes them dangerous.

Orlando couldn't have asked for two more favorable matchups in the first two rounds of the playoffs.

[JLEW1818]

The real loser is Carlos Boozer... Him and Lebron could be the best 1-2 punch in the NBA.

[Collier11]

I like the potential of Rose and Lebron

[Eielson]

Kobe and Lebron.

[Collier11]

yea, thatd work

[Eielson]

Does anybody else see a European team luring him in with something like 50 million dollars?

[Collier11]

no

[Scott D]

not with what the economies are like in the most likely of nations.

[JLEW1818]

Skip calls Rose, "baby Lebron"

[JLEW1818]

Because the other part feels as if we learned something substantial about LeBron James this spring. I always thought his ceiling looked like this: Jordan's DNA crossed with Magic's DNA crossed with Bo Jackson. Nope. Take the Jordan DNA out. Have to. Jordan was a ruthless mother******. Jordan was a killer. Jordan didn't care if his teammates despised him. Jordan never, ever, not in a million years, would have allowed his team to quit in the final two minutes of Thursday night's game the way LeBron did. His teammates feared him, loathed him, revered him and played accordingly. Bird had that same quality. In the second half of his career, so did Magic. Winning meant so much to those guys that their teammates almost didn't have a choice; they had to follow suit. Or else. - Bill Simmons

[Eielson]

Jordan's DNA definitely didn't cross with Bo Jackson's. Proof: baseball.

[Eielson]

not with what the economies are like in the most likely of nations.

I suppose, but don't you think it might be a risk worth taking? I think 50 million would be cheap for what they would get in return. I wouldn't expect them to lose money in the long run.

[My Opinion Matters]

You think Lebron needs money? Wherever he goes, it won't be about the money

[JLEW1818]

It won't be Chicago.. idc. Lebrons shadow.

i don't think Lebron goes to Chicago... lol just imagine if he won a ring somehow there in the next couple years.... bulls fans.. "okay MJ won 5 more".... say Lebron wins 2 in a row... "okay MJ won three in a row, twice" lose lose


New York baby. NYC.. He can run around with Aroid and Jeter. He can get another big name free agent with him. They don't have many draft picks.

Where ever he goes or stays, his team will NOT win the Finals next year. So i say its a process.

[JLEW1818]

Final point: Between Games 5 and 6 of the Cavs-Celtics series, an Austin, Texas, reader named Chris Rider sent me the following e-mail:

"I figured LeBron out, dude. I think you define a player by defining what is most important to them in one word.

"MJ -- Winning. Hands down, all he wanted to do was win. And that's over-used for a lot of athletes, but not him.

"Kobe -- Greatness. Yes he's going to win some, but only because he wants to be considered great and that will be a by-product at times. But you'd also see him shoot his team out of a game; jack 3s when he should press the issue and get to the paint. He didn't mind losing a few games if people came away saying 'Kobe is great; look what happens when he doesn't shoot.'"

"LeBron -- Amaze. I think he just really wants to amaze people. Which is why he spends 10 minutes before the game throwing underhand, left-hand half-court shots. Why he celebrates amazing dunks and blocks, but isn't working just as hard to win. I know the Cavs aren't great without him, but he's got PLENTY on that team to win rings with."

Is that totally fair? Probably not. But just for fun, let's extend Chris' game …

Russell, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Walton, West and Havlicek: Winning.

Wilt: Numbers.

Oscar and Barry: Perfection.

Shaq: Fame.

Kareem and Elgin: Pride.

Moses: Rebounds.

Malone and Garnett: Work.

Barkley: Fun.

Cousy, Stockton, Isiah, Pippen and Nash: Team.

For Doc and LeBron, you probably need more than one word. By the rules of the game, we can use only one. So we're forced to pick this one: Amaze. You are who you are.

[Eielson]

You think Lebron needs money?

Needs? No. Wants? Yes.

I knew he said he would consider Europe for the right price, so I googled it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520860

He'd strongly consider it for around 50 million.

[JLEW1818]

good, and maybe the Lebron jock strap lovers will go with him, and they can all be 2nd best in Europe forever

[JohnnyMack]

Needs? No. Wants? Yes.

I knew he said he would consider Europe for the right price, so I googled it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520860

He'd strongly consider it for around 50 million.

That story is years old.

[Curly Bill]

Lakers over Magic in 6.

[Eielson]

That story is years old.

No, it's not. In fact, it's not even a year old.

[JohnnyMack]

No, it's not. In fact, it's not even a year old.

August of 2008 wasn't even a year ago?

[JLEW1818]

2010 Boston looking like 2008 Boston

[Eielson]

August of 2008 wasn't even a year ago?

Okay, it was over a year, but a year and nine months still isn't "years."

[Collier11]

still irrelevant until someone other than Josh Childress bolts

[My Opinion Matters]

2010 Boston looking like 2008 Boston

Like NBA champs? Yep, I would agree.

[JLEW1818]

well the Phil won game 1. The Lakers are now in the NBA Finals for sure.

[JLEW1818]

Kobe showing why he is top 10 of all time

[stoops the eternal pimp]

trying to watch stoudamire try and guard Gasol is a little sad

[Scott D]

I'm thrilled that for the 5th consecutive year I won't be watching the NBA finals no matter how much ESPN tells me it's something I haven't seen 10x before.

[Collier11]

ill be rooting for the Eastern Conf representative, thats all I know

[Scott D]

I'll be rooting for a quake to demolish the Staples Center, same as I do every year.

[Collier11]

I just hope Kobe doesnt rape anyone this year, ive been successful for a few years running now

[Scott D]

he rapes his wife regularly

[Scott D]

I'm sure I'm being cruel here...I'm sure she is only playfully telling him no in a roleplaying manner ;)

[Collier11]

Nah, she is just saying, "you realize if you do this youre buying me another $3 million ring

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I love Laker hate...

ps..I hope you guys realize he didn't rape that girl

[Collier11]

Alot of $$$ trading hands says he did something inappropriate

[stoops the eternal pimp]

the rape kit says otherwise

[Collier11]

her vagina disagrees

[stoops the eternal pimp]

she had sex with 3 men over a couple of days according to her rape kit...somehow, the one that raped her was a millionaire basketball player

[Scott D]

her anus disagrees

fixed.

nah step, I'm all about the Lakers being relocated to Minneapolis and the Clippers being relocated to Buffalo ;)

[Collier11]

just cus she was a slizzut doesnt mean he didnt rape her, doesnt mean he did either. It does mean that he paid out a ton of money for something and I dont buy that it was to protect his image so the details didnt get out, his image at that point was screwed

[Collier11]

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did." Kobe Bryant

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I understand your dislike Scott..You cant live in Michigan and be a Lakers fan..

And c11 Im not sure how far back his dislike goes, but im sure its not shallow like a lot of the other laker hate Im getting.....like, because they sent the thunder home, they are the bad guys...they are a championship caliber team, not a playoff caliber team....

[stoops the eternal pimp]

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did." Kobe Bryant

If you think that statement was written by Kobe and not his lawyer....well

[Collier11]

I was actually a huge Laker fan in the Magic days, it was about the time that Kobe and Shaq joined forces that I changed my tune

It has zero to do with the Thunder, it mostly has to do with Kobe and the type of person he is/was

[Scott D]

I hate Boston too, but I think they're the real wildcard in this post season. But yet I've been a Ray Allen fan his whole career..go figure.

[Collier11]

If you think that statement was written by Kobe and not his lawyer....well

Money talks...and regardless who wrote it, he spoke it

[Scott D]

If you think that statement was written by Kobe and not his lawyer....well

you know that **** was written by his wife.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I was actually a huge Laker fan in the Magic days, it was about the time that Kobe and Shaq joined forces that I changed my tune

It has zero to do with the Thunder, it mostly has to do with Kobe and the type of person he is/was

See, I can go along with that..a lot of people hate Kobe..Heck a lot of people hated Jordan...I personally don't care for Kobe myself...but he is a great basketball player..

[Collier11]

Im going to the gym, STEP have fun rubbing Kobes thighs, bring a condom :D

[stoops the eternal pimp]

And during the rape case that was dismissed, I was angry at him, not that I thought he raped that girl, but he cheated on his wife...

Not many rape victims will go have sex after the event and before they go get examined

[Collier11]

See, I can go along with that..a lot of people hate Kobe..Heck a lot of people hated Jordan...I personally don't care for Kobe myself...but he is a great basketball player..

never said he wasnt great, just said that he likes to take liberties with women when they would prefer he doesnt. If she says yes and then half way thru she says no, by law it still means no :texan:

[stoops the eternal pimp]

and this information is based on?...

[Collier11]

And during the rape case that was dismissed, I was angry at him, not that I thought he raped that girl, but he cheated on his wife...

Not many rape victims will go have sex after the event and before they go get examined

only dismissed because she refused to testify which happens with alot of rape victims, some are truthful and some arent but almost all are embarrassed for what has happened

[Collier11]

and this information is based on?...

call it a hunch

[stoops the eternal pimp]

well her case when down the crapper when she tried to sue him for money right off the bat, her information got out that she gave herself out to a few folks over a few days, and a few other reasons...

[JohnnyMack]

I think that from this discussion we can conclude that:

a) Kobe put his black mamba in Collier's no-no hole.

b) STEP is a total slut.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Once you go black...

[JLEW1818]

**** all u idiots.

the rockets are about to get the first pick in the NBA Draft

shhh

;)

[Scott D]

speaking of franchises that should move...jlew chimes in. ;)

[JLEW1818]

easy now!!! we are like 1 of 3 west teams to win a title, in what like 30 years or so? :D

[Collier11]

I think that from this discussion we can conclude that:

a) Kobe put his black mamba in Collier's no-no hole.
.

Id be rich if that happened

[JLEW1818]

I'd prob take one in the butt for 10 million

1 million?? no

[Collier11]

youd do it for 10 grand and a PT Cruiser

[JLEW1818]

now, that's just gay!!!! :D

[Eielson]

still irrelevant until someone other than Josh Childress bolts

Lebron saying he would consider going to Europe for 50 million or so is not irrelevant to Lebron going to Europe for 50 million or so.

[Collier11]

Irrelevant

[JLEW1818]

stupid ping pong balls

[Eielson]

I just hope Kobe doesnt rape anyone this year, ive been successful for a few years running now

I just hope Pujols doesn't use PED's this year. I haven't been successful in a while.

[Eielson]

I just hope Pujols doesn't use PED's this year. I haven't been successful in a while.

He's a real nice guy though.

[JLEW1818]

Washington gets pick 1

[Eielson]

I'd prob take one in the butt for 10 million

1 million?? no

I prefer not to put a pricetag on my butthole.

[JLEW1818]

Wall goes to the East, cool with me

[Eielson]

I prefer not to put a pricetag on my butthole.

Note: this does not mean it's free.

[Eielson]

Wall goes to the East, cool with me

I think Wall is good, but I wouldn't exactly consider him a player to avoid.

[JLEW1818]

better to have him in the East

[Collier11]

I just hope Pujols doesn't use PED's this year. I haven't been successful in a while.

that was awful cute, lame but cute

[JLEW1818]

wow if KG is healthy last year.

its lakers vs celtics 3 years in a row

?

Lebron and company, nowhere near a ring

[Collier11]

Well I think tonight crossed out the Nets, I think he was only going if there if they got Wall. Down to Cleveland, Chicago, NY, Miami?

Boston is salty, if they hold on here ill be thoroughly impressed

[Collier11]

Redick earning imself a nice 2nd payday with his play this regular season and playoffs

[JLEW1818]

i support the NBA

at least the NBA could sell "LA-Boston"

u know? and it be competitive

[JohnnyMack]

Well I think tonight crossed out the Nets, I think he was only going if there if they got Wall. Down to Cleveland, Chicago, NY, Miami?

Boston is salty, if they hold on here ill be thoroughly impressed

I dunno. The Nets could add depth inside to help out Lopez, stick with Devin Harris at the point (which becomes less important with Bron Bron around). I don't think it was gonna happen with or without Wall, that team just isn't built to win any time soon.

I predict Cleveland and Toronto do a sign and trade with Bosh and a large part of Cleveland's overrated interior and that LBJ stays.

[JohnnyMack]

If the Mavericks were smart, they'd try the same thing with Dirk.

[Collier11]

The mavs need to dispatch Dirk, great player but they will never win with him

[JohnnyMack]

The mavs need to dispatch Dirk, great player but they will never win with him

That's what I mean. Ship him to Cleveland for draft picks and young interior talent (like Hickson).

[Collier11]

Whats funny is that Cleveland wouldnt give up Hickson for Stoudamire but then they barely play him in the playoffs

[diegosooner]

If lebron really wanted a ring, he should sign with orlando. With DH and him, they would likely earn a ring.

[Scott D]

Orlando couldn't afford LeBron unless they traded away everyone not named Dwight Howard or Jameer Nelson.

[SoonerNate]

Boston wins it all. A great backcourt and defense...

I don't see LA beating them.

[JLEW1818]

Last night showed the real Vince Carter. What a choker .. What a loser.

[My Opinion Matters]

Last night showed the real Vince Carter. What a choker .. What a loser.

Told you!

[JohnnyMack]

Last night showed the real Vince Carter. What a choker .. What a loser.

2002 called. It wants this post back.

[JLEW1818]

yep, i knew Carter choked when it mattered, so it seemed. It was in the back of my head. They are really missing Turk.

Turk made Lewis better, facilitated more. I never shoulda trusted Carter... his cousin is loser too
Vince Carter lol

[JLEW1818]

will Amare play D tonight?

[Collier11]

yep, i knew Carter choked when it mattered, so it seemed. It was in the back of my head. They are really missing Turk.

Turk made Lewis better, facilitated more. I never shoulda trusted Carter... his cousin is loser too
Vince Carter lol

I dont buy that they are missing Turk, they are missing Turk from last season but that isnt the same guy. He had a horrible year this year after signing his big shiny new contract. Nothing he did during the regular season has shown that he couldve done any better during the postseason

[JLEW1818]

well true. but if he stays on the magic, a way better team. That team builds even more chemistry. I really don't know why he would want to live in Toronto.

[Collier11]

They offered him a ton of $$$$$

[JLEW1818]

yah, i was really surprised Orlando wouldn't match that ...

Bosh is done as a raptor..

i guess turk does not mind sucking, but being rich.

i wouldn't either i guess

[yankee]

I dont buy that they are missing Turk, they are missing Turk from last season but that isnt the same guy. He had a horrible year this year after signing his big shiny new contract.

toronto =/= orlando


it's amazing how good you can be when you have talent around you.

[Collier11]

Toronto was in the playoffs before Bosh got hurt, dont forget, they arent a horrible team

[JLEW1818]

8-9 seed in the east is lol

[yankee]

Toronto was in the playoffs before Bosh got hurt, dont forget, they arent a horrible team

what was the win difference between the 2 seed orlando and the 7 or 8 seed that toronto would have presumably gotten? like jlew said...a playoff team, but a playoff team in the east.

[JLEW1818]

8 seed Bulls
41-41

8 seed Thunder
50-32

[yankee]

the suns and defense should never go together in a sentence...wow.

[diegosooner]

please, anybody but LA.

[JLEW1818]

looks like Dirk will be opting out of his contract.

:)

[JLEW1818]

Celtics the 4 seed bout to beat 1 seed, and 2 seed.. Keep in mind the 1994-95 Houston rockets, a 6seed, beat 3 seeded jazz, 2 seeded suns, 1 seeded spurs, and 1 seeded magic.

[My Opinion Matters]

Go Magic! Magic in the Finals!

[JLEW1818]

Never cared for the magic, just thought they were the best team in the east. You and lebron jock lovers are the real losers. And I picked Boston in 6 over cavs. I win! :)

as long as lebron does not get in, I'm cool with who ever. And as I said, the cavs won't beat the Celtic, magic, lakers 12 times. Seems pretty common now that the cavs are knocked out. Ha

2 way to look at it.

Lebron has had the best regular season record the last 2 seasons. Yet he has never reached the NBA Finals in those 2 seasons. Is that a choke? Just not a playoff team? excuses? "shaq is too old" no ****ing ****. I've said that since the got him. yet others look past it. And Jamison is about as cool as AIDS

now most importantly

Lakers Vs. Celtics , 2 3 2 series. Lakers with the home court.

who yall got?

[My Opinion Matters]

Me? A Lebron jock lover? lol, hardly. I'm actually a Celtics fan, believe it or not. I think with the way the Celtics are dismantling the Magic it is becoming evident that the Celtics victory over the Cavs was more about the Celtics finally coming together as a cohesive unit than it was about Lebron choking. But I said at the end of the last round excuse time is over for Lebron, and I still stand by that, despite how well the Celtics are playing. Great players need to step up and elevate their team when it matters the most, and Lebron didn't do that. The thing with Lebron is that he is, undoubtedly, probably one of the top 5 most talented players to ever play the game. Being talented isn't enough to be great though, see Chris Webber, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter...

Anyway, Celtics over the Lakers. I could see it going anywhere from 5-7 games, but I like the Celtics.

[My Opinion Matters]

Derek Fisher attempting to guard Rajon Rondo will bring the lulz.

[JLEW1818]

i just want to see it go 6-7 games.

there has only been like 3 NBA finals in the last 15 or so years, go 7 games.

[Scott D]

Magic were never the best team in the East.

As was said yesterday at halftime, the problem the Magic have is that their roster was designed for one purpose, to beat Cleveland. This Orlando team would have gotten swept by LA in the finals if they'd been the Eastern Conference Champs.

If they want to win a title, the first step should be firing Ron Jeremy as head coach.

[JLEW1818]

Pau Gasol is the best big man in all of basketball. PERIOD


(and i hate that ostrich looking bastard)

[Scott D]

The answer to that is, no.

[silverwheels]

Celtics + Lakers = me not watching

[JLEW1818]

Celtics + Lakers = me not watching

its not bad. the 2 best organizations in NBA history .

i honestly think it will be a great series. should go 6-7 games..

[silverwheels]

Also 2 of the top 3 or 4 most dislikable franchises in the league right now. So I'll only watch if nothing else is on.

[Eielson]

I'm really trying to hate the Celtics. The problem is that KG and Ray Allen were two of my favorite non-Laker players during their non-Celtic careers.

[silverwheels]

Hate Paul Pierce, then. That's really easy. :D

[JLEW1818]

or Rondo... if you put a wig on him he would look female. like really female.

[yankee]

or Rondo... if you put a wig on him he would look female. like really female.

and he's a punk b!tch.




unfortunately, he happens to be a damn good point guard. oh well...

[Eielson]

I guess it won't be two conference final sweeps.

[yankee]

so...how 'bout them NBA playoffs?

[JLEW1818]

u gotta think the Magic can win game 5.... ?

[JLEW1818]

magic, life ?

[yankee]

magic, life ?

appears so.

bench is playing real well, and the 3 pointers are falling.

perkins out is really going to hurt boston in the 2nd half...and that was a bad call by the refs. typical overreaction by playoff refs...:rolleyes:

[JLEW1818]

that ref will be in huge trouble after this game.

that is some bull ****

[JLEW1818]

i think he is now suspended for 1 game... 7th technical ?

[the_ouskull]

Orlando with Vince Carter and Boston with Rasheed Wallace both have players that, in my humble opinion at least, represent everything that is wrong with professional basketball. The Lakers are the Lakers. The only team left that I'd actually LIKE to see win, the Suns, aren't in a good position, even though they've tied things up.

the_ouskull

[Collier11]

I agree with Rasheed but whats up with Vince? The guy has never been a problem with character?

[Collier11]

Joey Crawford is an Ego maniac and should be fired...guess he didnt learn from the Duncan incident a few years back. Perkins might get both T's back, VanGundy thinks so

[Curly Bill]

Joey Crawford is an Ego maniac and should be fired...guess he didnt learn from the Duncan incident a few years back. Perkins might get both T's back, VanGundy thinks so

He's the first of many that should be fired. You and I could do a better job than half those jokers. ;) :D

Problem is I don't think some of them are as bad as they seem, but once they get their marching orders from the league office they have to call the game to make those orders come true. I think it makes some of them appear to be worse officials than they truly are.

So yes, I truly do think the NBA is a crooked league, or biased if you will.

[Collier11]

it amazes me how many horrible refs there are in pro sports, why do we have 60 and 70 yr olds refereeing pro sports anyway?

As for Crawford, I think that he assumes people pay good money to see him, not the game

[Curly Bill]

it amazes me how many horrible refs there are in pro sports, why do we have 60 and 70 yr olds refereeing pro sports anyway?

As for Crawford, I think that he assumes people pay good money to see him, not the game

Kind of topical because it's been talked about a lot on here recently, mostly between ST and LL, but I think it has a lot to do with the officials unions. Plus the leagues protect them as well. I mean is there a more protected group of people in the world when it comes to doing their jobs than sports officials?

[Collier11]

True, the unions have a lot to do with it. Joe West today in baseball proved part of the issues with umps these days, called multiple balks on Buerhle that were questionable at best, almost like he was hoping to call the 2nd one.

[Curly Bill]

True, the unions have a lot to do with it. Joe West today in baseball proved part of the issues with umps these days, called multiple balks on Buerhle that were questionable at best, almost like he was hoping to call the 2nd one.

...and ya know what? Even if this were proven true what would happen to this official? Most likely nada.

[JLEW1818]

LA by 15 tonight

[stoops the eternal pimp]

NBA refs and the league is so fraudulent..

When Danny Crawford refs Mavericks playoff games for instance

The Mavs are 2-16, 46-39 in games he doesnt officiate

Against the spread, the Mavs are 4-14 with Crawford officiating ... and 45-40 in all other playoff games.

They averaged 21.9 free throws in the Crawford games; 27.1 free throws in the non-Crawford games.

Since the Duncan incident, the Spurs are 1-4 in games officiated by Joey Crawford in the playoffs

Tim Donaghy made money by betting on NBA games using who was ref'n the game as his decision maker...

last nights game was a joke

[Eielson]

LA by 15 tonight

Yeah, there is no way the Lakers lose tonight. I doubt anybody who watched Kobe's post game interview/watched him in the fourth quarter thinks the Suns will win.

[the_ouskull]

I called L.A. in 6. BUT...

I think that, with the pressure Kobe's building up, we could see one of those I'M-winning-us-this-one,-you-guys-get-to-watch" games from Mamba, too. And if they do that, their offensive efficiency won't be enough to overcome what the Suns do (it's so cute when they TRY) defensively.

the_ouskull

[JohnnyMack]

Here's hoping the Staples Center is swallowed by an earthquake during the Lakers shoot around today.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I HATE YOU

[Collier11]

Here is hoping that Kobe and Lamar both get herpes and they spread it to all the Kardashians pregame

[yankee]

Here's hoping the Staples Center is swallowed by an earthquake during the Lakers shoot around today.


Here is hoping that Kobe and Lamar both get herpes and they spread it to all the Kardashians pregame

all of this.

[JLEW1818]

what team would advance from the west if that really happened.?

[Scott D]

Memphis

[stoops the eternal pimp]

they couldnt advance to the wnba finals

[Scott D]

clearly the Apocalypse is upon us, so why not the Grizz.

Besides, they'd probably score four figures on the Shock.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

marion jones would shoot up with some PEDs and then drop 30 and 15 on them biotches

[Scott D]

she can't even drop 5 and 3 on Diana Taurasi

[stoops the eternal pimp]

LOL!

[Collier11]

and Scott knows this cus he as the wnba league pass on Direct TV

[JLEW1818]

that's what i heard

[Scott D]

I wouldn't watch the WNBA League Pass (if there is such a thing) if DirecTV gave it to me free.

My interest in that league died the day that Mrs. Davidson sold the team and it relocated to Tulsa.

[Eielson]

Remember when I said I wish the Lakers had kept Ariza instead of signing Artest? I still stand by that.

[JLEW1818]

Artest game winning shot...

I like the man for one year. In Houston.

Say what y'all want. The man hustles. And that hustle won game 5 . And probably the west.

[Eielson]

Say what y'all want. The man hustles. And that hustle won game 5 . And probably the west.

Right after he almost lost it...

[JohnnyMack]

Say what y'all want. The man hustles. And that hustle won game 5 . And probably the west.

Hustles? The guys runs around like a ****ing tweaker out there. Guy has almost no clue what's happening 90% of the time. He just got lucky.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Artest game winning shot...

I like the man for one year. In Houston.

Say what y'all want. The man hustles. And that hustle won game 5 . And probably the west.

agreed

[JohnnyMack]

agreed

Funny we'd start talking about tweakers and you'd show up...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

it just so happens im in hartshorne posting amongst the tweakers

[JohnnyMack]

Go get me some ciaciavallo cheese, bitch!!!

Did I spell that right?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

replace your 2nd "a" with an "o".....

and your know your cheeses friend...and good bj techniques

[JohnnyMack]

What can I say? I have soft hands.

[StoopTroup]

Is it all over yet? Who won?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

the globetrotters

[StoopTroup]

the globetrotters

:D I knew they would mount a comeback someday. :D

[Eielson]

I don't really know that I would consider Artest's play hustle. I'd more likely call it stupidity on Richardson's part.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

the beat the washington generals in a thrilling series 2900 games to 1

[StoopTroup]

Was Meadowlark MVP again? :D

[Eielson]

the beat the washington generals in a thrilling series 2900 games to 1

The Generals won a game?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Was Meadowlark MVP again? :D

yes even though his attempts at throwing water at the generals coach may lead to a suspension

[stoops the eternal pimp]

The Generals won a game?

they do have pride you know

[JLEW1818]

Predictions for tonight

[StoopTroup]

Meadowlark will go Triple Triple.

[Scott D]

O'Shea Jackson will **** around and get a triple-double.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

after his mom cooks him a hog less breakfast of course

[stoops the eternal pimp]

FYI

Tim donaghy has been picking games on sporting news radio based on what he thinks the NBA wants to happen and he is 8-0 so far including picking the right pick in the Boston Orlando game... He said pregame that the NBA wants Boston in the finals and that stern doesn't want the game to go back to Orlando.. 8-0 in his picks

[Collier11]

Out of all the no good, un-trustworthy guys in sports history, for some reason I believe Donaghy and Canseco

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Both guys have proven to be truth tellers.. I just wonder what stern thinks of donaghy doing this..I was listening to donaghy talk and the one sn host said he has been betting on donaghys picks and he is making a killing

[JLEW1818]

Kobe game winning shot tonight.

[Collier11]

Both guys have proven to be truth tellers.. I just wonder what stern thinks of donaghy doing this..I was listening to donaghy talk and the one sn host said he has been betting on donaghys picks and he is making a killing

Stern still denies everything he says, Stern if fairly corrupt IMO

[Scott D]

Haven't you figured it out yet, Stern IS the NBA.

[Eielson]

"Top 5" player riding the bench as Suns mount a comeback...

[Eielson]

We've had 7 teams win championships over the last 30 years. Five teams have won 28 of the last 30. Staying on top really isn't a big deal. Only four championship teams over the last 30 years have failed to win 2 in three years. Looking at that information, there is an approximately 87% that the Lakers or Celtics win the championship.

I meant to quote this part of it:


there is an approximately 87% that the Lakers or Celtics win the championship.

However, I edited it rather than quoted it. Regardless, I'll still brag.

[Scott D]

I meant to quote this part of it:



However, I edited it rather than quoted it. Regardless, I'll still brag.

I wouldn't use that as a basis for bragging, I'd use that as a basis for why the NBA is likely to continue on it's financial decline that started in the early 2000s.

[Eielson]

I might no brag about it, but when you have people picking the Mavs and Cavs to win it all...

[JohnnyMack]

Here's hoping that the Lakers are all kidnapped by a Mexican drug cartel before the finals start.

[JLEW1818]

I might no brag about it, but when you have people picking the Mavs and Cavs to win it all...

Lol

[My Opinion Matters]

Cavs will win the East, barring catastrophic injury to James or O'Neal. Unless Boston somehow miraculously pulls it together in the playoffs this year, there's not another legitimate contender in the East this year.

Yeah, I totally missed the boat on that one. :rolleyes:

[JLEW1818]

just shows playoffs are usually a different season.


NBA FINALS SCHEDULE

Game 1 - Boston Celtics @ L.A. Lakers - Thursday, June 3 - 9:00 p.m.

Game 2 - Boston Celtics @ L.A. Lakers - Sunday, June 6 - 8:00 p.m.

Game 3 - L.A. Lakers @ Boston Celtics - Tuesday, June 8 - 9:00 p.m.

Game 4 - L.A. Lakers @ Boston Celtics - Thursday, June 10 - 9:00 p.m.

Game 5 - L.A. Lakers @ Boston Celtics - Sunday, June 13 - 8:00 p.m. (if necessary)

Game 6 - Boston Celtics @ L.A. Lakers - Tuesday, June 15 - 9:00 p.m. (if necessary)

Game 7 - Boston Celtics @ L.A. Lakers - Thursday, June 17 - 9:00 p.m. (if necessary)

[My Opinion Matters]

Celtics in 6.

[GrapevineSooner]

Stanley Cup Finals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NBA Finals


Just sayin'

And yes, I might be a wee bit biased. ;)

[JLEW1818]

a great chance Boston can win one of the first 2 in LA.


However, I'm taking Lakers in 7

MVP: Kobe Bryant

Kobe goes to top 6 all time.

MJ
Wilt
Magic
Kareem
Russell
Kobe
Bird

[My Opinion Matters]

Kobe over Bird? Gtfo.

[JLEW1818]

i think if he wins and dominates this Finals, i put him ahead. If not he says between 7-12


I really don't like Russell in the top 5.

His offense was limited, and he was surrounded with Hall of Famers. I think 7 to be exact.