Good Morning...Lest we forget

[Okla-homey]

15 years ago now, Never forget

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Lucio Aleman Jr., 33, safety engineer, Federal Highway Administration
Teresa Alexander, 33, Oklahoma City
Richard Arthur Allen, 46, Yukon, claims representative, Social Security Administration
Ted Leon Allen, 48, Norman, community planning, Housing and Urban Development
Baylee Almon, 1 , Midwest City
Diane E. (Hollingsworth) Althouse , 45, loan management, Housing and Urban Development
Rebecca Anderson, 37, nurse
Pamela Cleveland Argo, 36 Oklahoma City
Saundra "Sandy" Avery, 34, Midwest City, development clerk, Social Security Administration
Peter Avillanoza, 56, fiar housing and equal opportunity director, Housing and Urban Development
Calvin Battle, 62
Peola Battle, 51
Danielle Bell, 1
Oleta Christine Biddy, 54, Oklahoma City
Shelly Turner Bland, 26, Drug Enforcement Agency
Andrea Y. Blanton, 33, Oklahoma City, secretary, Housing and Urban Development
Olen B. Bloomer, 61, U.S. Department of Agriculture
Lola Rene Bolden, 40, Army Sgt. 1st Class, Birmingham, AL
James E. Boles, 51, U.S. Department of Agriculture administrative officer
Mark A. Bolte, 25, Federal Highway Administration
Cassandra Kay Booker, 25, Oklahoma City
Carol Louise Bowers, 53, Yukon, operations supervisor, Social Security Administration
Peachlyn Bradley, 3
Woodrow "Woody" Clifford Brady, 41, Oklahoma City
Cynthia Lynn (Campbell) Brown, 26, special agent, Secret Service
Paul G. Broxterman, 43, Housing and Urban Development
Gabreon DeShawn Lee Bruce, 4 months
Kimberly Ruth Burgess, 29, Tinker AFB, Federal Employees Credit Union
David Neil Burkett, 47, Housing and Urban Development
Donald Earl Burns Sr., 63, counstruction analyst, Housing and Urban Development
Karen Gist Carter, 32, U.S. Army Recruiting Office
Michael J. Carillo, 44, Federal Highway Administration
Rona Linn Chaffey, 35, Oklahoma City Cleveland County sherriff's secretary, assigned to DEA
Zackary T. Chavez, 3, Oklahoma City
Robert Neal Chipman, 51, Edmond, financial analyst, Oklahoma Water Resources Board
Kimberly Kay Clark, 39, Oklahoma City, legal division, Housing and Urban Development
Dr. Margaret Louise "Peggy" Clark, 42, veterinary medical officer, U.S. Department of Agriculture
Anthony C. Cooper II, 2, Moore
Antonio Ansara Cooper, 6 months
Dana Brown Cooper, 24, Moore, director, America's Kids day-care center
Harley Cottingham, 46, special agent, Department of Defense
Kim Robin Cousins, 33, Midwest City, Housing and Urban Development
Aaron Coverdale, 5
Elijah Coverdale, 2
Jaci Rae Coyne, 14 months, Moore
Kathy L. Cregan, 60, Oklahoma City, claims representative, Social Security Administration
Richard Leroy Cummins, 55, senior investigator, U.S. Department of Agriculture
Steven D. Curry, 44, Norman, General Services Administration inspector
Brenda Daniels, 42, Oklahoma City, America's Kids day-care center
Sgt. Benjamin L. Davis, 29, U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Station, operations clerk, Oklahoma City.
Diana Lynn Day, 36, Housing and Urban Development
Peter DeMaster, 47, special agent, Department of Defense
Castine "Brooks" Deveroux, 49, Oklahoma City, closing clerk, Housing and Urban Development
Sheila R. Gigger Driver, 28, Oklahoma City
Tylor Eaves, 8 months, America's Kids day-care center
Ashley Eckles, 4, Guthrie
Susan Ferrell, 37, attorney, Housing and Urban Development
Carroll June "Chip" Fields, 48, Guthrie, Drug Enforcement Administration
Katherine Finley, 45, Federal Employees Credit Union
Judy J. Fisher, 45, Housing and Urban Development
Linda L. Florence, 43, Oklahoma City, properties disposition, Housing and Urban Development
Donald Lee Fritzier, 64, Oklahoma City
Mary Anne Fritzier, 57, Oklahoma City
Tevin Garrett, 18 months, Oklahoma City
Laura Jane (Washington) Garrison, 61, Oklahoma City
Jamie Genzer, 32, Federal Employees Credit Union
Margaret Betterton Goodson, 54, Social Security claims representative
Kevin "Lee" Gottshall II, 6 months, Norman
Ethel Louise Griffin, 55, Edmond, Social Security claims representative
Colleen Guiles, 59, Oklahoma City, senior underwriter, Housing and Urban Development
Capt. Randolph A. Guzman, 28, Castro Valley, CA, executive officer, U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Office
Cheryl Bradley-Hammons, 44, Oklahoma City
Ronald Vernon Harding, 55, Oklahoma City
Thomas Lynn Hawthorne St., 52, Choctaw, Social Security customer
Doris A. Higginbottom, 44, purchasing agent, U.S. Department of Agriculture
Anita C. Hightower, 27
Gene Hodges Jr., 54, Norman, evaluation supervisor, Housing and Urban Development
Peggy Louise Holland, 37, Oklahoma City, civilian computer specialist, U.S. Recruiting Office
Linda Coleen Housley, 53, Oklahoma City, Federal Employees Credit Union
George M. Howard, 45, Housing and Urban Development
Wanda Lee Howell, 34, Spencer, teacher, America's Kids day-care center
Robbin A. Huff, 37, Bethany, loan officer, Federal Employees Credit Union
Dr. Charles E.Hurlburt, Oklahoma City
Jean Hurlburt, Oklahoma City
Paul Douglas Ice, 42, Midwest City, senior special agent, Customs Service
Christi Y. Jenkins, 32, teller, Federal Employees Credit Union
Norma Jean Johnson, 62, executive secretary, Department of Defense, Defense and Investigative Service
Raymond Lee Johnson, 59, Oklahoma City, senior volunteer, Social Security Administration
Larry J. Jones, 46, Yukon, computer specialist, Federal Highway Administration
Alvin Justes, 54
Blake Ryan Kennedy, 18 months, Amber
Khalil, Carole, 50, Oklahoma City
Valerie Koelsch, 33, Oklahoma City, marketing director, Federal Employees Credit Union.
Carolyn A Kreymborg, Housing and Urban Development
Teresa L. Lauderdale, 41, Housing and Urban Development
Kathy Leinen, Federal Employees Credit Union
Carrie Ann Lenz, 26, Choctaw, contract employee, Drug Enforcement Administration
Donald Ray Leonard, 50, Edmond, special agent, Secret Service
Airman 1st Class Lakesha R. Levy, 21, U.S. Air Force
Dominique London, 2, Oklahoma City
Rheta Long, 60, Oklahoma City, secretary, U.S. Department of Agriculture
Michael L. Loudenslager, 48, Harrah, planner/estimator, General Services Administration
Aurelia "Donna" Luster, 43, Guthrie
Robert Lee Luster Jr., 45, Guthrie
Mickey Bryant Maroney, 50, Oklahoma City, special agent, Secret Service
James K. Martin, highway engineer, Federal Highway Administration
Gilberto X. Martinez, 35, Oklahoma City
James A. McCarthy, 53, Housing and Urban Development
Kenneth Glenn McCullough, 36, Edmond, special agent, Drug Enforcement Administration
Betsy A. McGonnell, Housing and Urban Development
Linda McKinney, 47, office manages, Secret Service
Cartney J. McRaven, Airman 1st Class, U.S. Air Force
Claude Medearis, 42, senior special agent, Customs Service
Claudette Meek, 43, Federal Employees Credit Union
Frankie Ann Merrell, 23, teller, Federal Employees Credit Union.
Derwin Miller, 27
Eula Leigh Mitchell, 64
John C. Moss III, 51, Warren, Ark., chief of public affairs, U.S. Army Recruiting Office
Patricia Nix, 47, Edmond, Housing and Urban Development
Jerry L. Parker, 45, Federal Highway Administration
Jill Diane Randolph, 27, Oklahoma City, Federal Employees Credit Union
Michelle A. Reeder, 33, Federal Highway Administration
Terry Smith Rees, 41, Midwest City, acting director of public housing, Housing and Urban Development
Mary Leasure Rentie, 39, Bethany, organization management personnel specialist, Housing and Urban Development
Antonio Reyes, 55, fair housing, Housing and Urban Development
Kathryn E. Ridley, 24
Trudy Rigney, 33, Midwest City, draftswoman, Oklahoma Water Resources Board.
Claudine Ritter, 48, Federal Employees Credit Union
Christy Rosas, 22, Oklahoma City, Federal Employees Credit Union
Sonja Sanders, 27, Federal Employees Credit Union
Lanny L. Scroggins, 46, Oklahoma City, accounting, Housing and Urban Development
Kathy Lynn Seidl, 39, Shawnee, investigative assistant, Secret Service
Leona L. Sells, 57, Housing and Urban Development
Karen Denise Shepherd, 27, Moore, loan officer, Federal Employees Credit Union
Chase Smith, 3, Oklahoma City
Cotton Smith, 3, Oklahoma City
Master Sergeant Victoria L. Sohn, 36, Moore, U.S. Army
John T Stewart, 51, Oklahoma City, Housing and Urban Development
Dolores Marie Stratton, 51, Moore, civilian personnel clerk, U.S. Army recruiting office
Emilio Rangel Tapia, 50, Oklahoma City
Victoria Texter, 37, Federal Employees Credit Union
Charlotte A. Thomas, 43, Social Security appointment clerk.
Michael G. Thompson, 46, Social Security Administration
Kayla Marie Titsworth, 3, Oklahoma City
Ricky L. Tomlin, 46, division program specialist, U.S. Department of Transportation.
LaRue Treanor, 56, Guthrie
Luther Treanor, 61, Guthrie
Larry L. Turner, 43
Jules A. Valdez, 50, Housing and Urban Development
John Karl VanEss, 67, Chickasha, Housing and Urban Development
Johnny Allen Wade, 42, Oklahoma City, planning and research engineer, Federal Highway Administration
David J. Walker, 54, environmental specialist, Housing and Urban Development
Robert Nolan Walker Jr., 52
Wanda Lee Watkins, 49 Midwest City, clerk, U.S. Army
Michael Don Weaver, 45, Edmond, attorney
Julie Marie Welch, 23, Oklahoma City, claims representative and interpreter, Social Security Administration
Rogert Glen Westberry, 57, Daytona Beach, Fla., special agent in charge, Department of Defense, Defense and Investigative Service
Alan Gerald Whicher, 40, Oklahoma City, assistant special agent in charge, Secret Service
Jo Ann Whittenberg, 35, Oklahoma City, program assistant, Housing and Urban Development
Frances A. Williams, 48, community planning, Housing and Urban Development
Scott Dwain Williams, 24, Tuttle
William Stephen Williams, 42, Cashion
Clarence Eugene Wilson, 49, chief counsel and acting manager, Housing and Urban Development
Ronota A. Woodbridge, 31, engineer, Federal Highway Administration
Sharon Louise Wood-Chesnut, 47, Oklahoma City, claims representative, Social Security Administration
Tresia Worton, 28, Federal Employees Credit Union
John "Jack" Youngblood, 52

[Frozen Sooner]

Haven't. Won't.

[olevetonahill]

Does anyone know the story on this child ?

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[Mjcpr]

I don't know what specifically happened to her but I'm pretty sure she died if she hadn't already when this was taken. :(

[yermom]

big lawsuit from the family over its use as well, i believe

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'll never forget, despite being far from Oklahoma when it happened.

Prayers to all affected.

[Hot Rod]

Will never forget. Prayers with those who lost loved ones and friends that day 15 years ago.

[BudSooner]

Does anyone know the story on this child ?

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3month old Baylee Almon, carried by fireman Chris Fields.

I can't ever get that image out of my mind. I'm not sure if it was her mother but there was one child who died in the bombing, the mother tried to have another child after it happened and named it after the child who died.

I kinda think that is morbid, imagine growing up and having people tell you you are named for a sibling who perished in that act of hatred??

[olevetonahill]

The beatles had it pretty Spot on
5jMJSbDBF2g

[TUSooner]

I visit the Memorial every time I go to OK. I went to the museum a couple of weeks ago; if you haven't, you should.

[sooner59]

I was in 5th grade when this happened. I was in school no more than an hour when someone came in and called my teacher to the principles office. We then had a substitute for the rest of the day and I didn't find out until I got home what had happened.

We knew something was wrong because out the door we saw our teacher crying as she left school. The next day she was back and we had found out that her sister worked in the Federal Building.

Her sister had left less than 5 minutes before the explosion to get coffee for her and others in the office. She was in the coffee shop when it happened. Fate, my friends. It just wasn't her time that day. I would imagine she still struggles with the thought that she should have been a victim that day, but was saved by running for coffee.

[TUSooner]

The beatles had it pretty Spot on
5jMJSbDBF2g
True.

~~~~
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you'll have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right

[BudSooner]

I visit the Memorial every time I go to OK. I went to the museum a couple of weeks ago; if you haven't, you should.

We have, it's very sobering to be on the grounds where that happened.
That fence and the plaque stating where Americas Kids daycare once stood made me feel like someone just ripped your heart out, knowing that someone intentionally murdered children and adults....it still makes me angry to this day.
Terry Nichols does not deserve to live, i'm not getting into the the conspiracy angle of the bombing but one of the men is allowed to live and should not be walking around on god green earth while those he helped to murder are being mourned to this day.


****, i'm gonna shut up, talking about this just pisses me off to this day.

[Boomer.....]

Never forget! :(

[sooner n houston]

Never forget!

[stoopified]

Looking at those pictures opened the floodgates.My sons (Ryan 6,Jason 3) came to me and asked me what was wrong.How do I answer that ?

[olevetonahill]

Looking at those pictures opened the floodgates.My sons (ryan 6,Jason 3) came to me and asked me what was wrong.How do I answer that ?

I think ya just Hug em Bro
I dont know how you could even begin to try to explain that to Kids that age .

[Okla-homey]

3month old Baylee Almon, carried by fireman Chris Fields.

I can't ever get that image out of my mind. I'm not sure if it was her mother but there was one child who died in the bombing, the mother tried to have another child after it happened and named it after the child who died.

I kinda think that is morbid, imagine growing up and having people tell you you are named for a sibling who perished in that act of hatred??

OKC Fireman Chris Fields subsequently took his own life. RIP.

[Viking Kitten]

Many of the rescue workers suffered emotional problems after the bombing, as you can probably imagine. One of the first police officers on the scene that day is a friend of our family's. He had to spend some time in a residential mental health facility a few years after the bombing.

By the way, Baylee Almon was a year old. Her first birthday was the day before she died. Her little sister's name is Bella, who spoke at the ceremony today.

[Harry Beanbag]

OKC Fireman Chris Fields subsequently took his own life. RIP.


When was this? He did a 10th anniversary interview 5 years ago and was a battalion chief at the time.

[BudSooner]

OKC Fireman Chris Fields subsequently took his own life. RIP.
I did not know that.:(


Many of the rescue workers suffered emotional problems after the bombing, as you can probably imagine. One of the first police officers on the scene that day is a friend of our family's. He had to spend some time in a residential mental health facility a few years after the bombing.

By the way, Baylee Almon was a year old. Her first birthday was the day before she died. Her little sister's name is Bella, who spoke at the ceremony today.
Few people who had anything to do with it came away without losing something emotionally, very tragic not only for those whose family were lost, but those who had to cope with life afterwards knowing they had witnessed the handiwork of evil firsthand.

[delhalew]

It does come rushing back. I haven't seen those photos in a long time. I was in Walker tower on campus. I was sleeping in that day. I woke up right when it happened. I don't know why. It doesn't seem possible that I felt it. :(

[yermom]

i was in Couch. i had no idea about anything until i went to class that afternoon

[delhalew]

i was in Couch. i had no idea about anything until i went to class that afternoon

I didn't have class that morning, but turned on the tv within minutes of waking up. Sat there for a couple of hours just thinking wtf?

[Frozen Sooner]

It does come rushing back. I haven't seen those photos in a long time. I was in Walker tower on campus. I was sleeping in that day. I woke up right when it happened. I don't know why. It doesn't seem possible that I felt it. :(

I had the same experience at 1300 College.

[SunnySooner]

Prayers for all the families of those who died, and all the survivors--the ones with the scars on their physical bodies, and the ones with the scars on their souls, may they all find comfort and peace. We do remember. I've never been so proud to be an Okie as those days after the bombing. We showed the world what kind of people live in Oklahoma, and the world was humbled. Evil broke our hearts, but never our spirit. God Bless Oklahoma.

[Turd_Ferguson]

When was this? He did a 10th anniversary interview 5 years ago and was a battalion chief at the time.I don't have a direct # to him, but I believe he is alive and well.

[JLEW1818]

:(

[Okla-homey]

I don't have a direct # to him, but I believe he is alive and well.

I'm just going by what is posted on the display board at the Museum underneath that very famous photograph.

[BudSooner]

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC is going to play previously unheard tapes of interviews with McVeigh, personally I don't think they need shown out of respect for the family members but I know in the media they have no respect for anyone.

Anything to garner ratings.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/236615?g=1

[JLEW1818]

sad couple of days, Columbine is tomorrow.

[OKC-SLC]

Haven't. Won't.

this.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I'm just going by what is posted on the display board at the Museum underneath that very famous photograph.I just called one of his fireman buddy's who assures me that Chris is not Tango Uniform.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Yes...He is alive and Batallion Chief, or at least was 5 years ago.

The confusion probably comes due to this:


Capt. Chris Fields. Knew he had to be careful with his newfound fame. He knew of fireman who took it too far. One in Texas had his 15min when he saved a baby trapped in a Texas well but when the publicity faded he couldn’t take it and committed suicide. Even days after the picture was flashed around the world some of the men at his station started to grumble, "I did more rescues than he did,". He could understand their attitude because of one picture it was Chris, not them, who got to have breakfast with Tom Brokaw and Barbara Walters, and get free trips to New York and Los Angeles for TV interviews.

Chris by all accounts didn’t let the attention go to his head; he didn’t even consider himself a hero. How could he when everyone he tried to save that day was dead or died later of their injuries. The one thing he could do was being there for the Aren. He thought Aren would find it was important that as he was the last one to hold Baylee. He felt it was his duty to comfort and protect her.

When resentful bombing victims vilified her on the TV news, he defended her. When she needed help to stop the exploitation of Baylee’s photo, he gave her names of lawyers. As time went on he felt more of a friend to Aren rather than Aren being just another one of his duties as a fireman.

[Boomer_Sooner_sax]

Does anyone know the story on this child ?

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Her 16th birthday would have been yesterday. Sad deal. I remember where I was, in my 9th grade physical sciences class. I heard the boom, but thought it was a sonic boom. Sad deal, I can't believe that it has been 15 years ago. Never forget OKC.

[soonerloyal]

My youngest used to love to get quarters and play video games with little Zack Chavez at the indoor soccer arena near Moore/SOKC. Zackary was such a cutiepie, always a huge, beautiful smile and a real enthusiast of charming quarters out of everyone for those games. From what I remember, it was his uncle who played with an adult team up there. Precious kiddo. All of them lost that day were.

Terrorism doesn't fix things. Terrorism doesn't prove patriotism, or faith, or rightness. Terrorism takes lives.

God bless my beloved Oklahoma. We send our love, strength and remembrance.

NEVER FORGET.

[IronSooner]

I was in band class in Edmond. We all heard it, and everyone thought the percussion guys had inadvertently hit the drum. Can't believe it's been 15 years since that day.

Like someone else noted above, I'll always be proud that everyone on TV and the radio had to tell people to stop coming down to help because so many people did that it was clogging things up, and that they should donate blood and other things instead. That speaks volumes.

[John Kochtoston]

I didn't have class that morning, but turned on the tv within minutes of waking up. Sat there for a couple of hours just thinking wtf?

A similar thing happened to me, in Walker Tower, no less. It was bizarre, because my habit my freshman year was to wake up at the crack of noon.

[delhalew]

A similar thing happened to me, in Walker Tower, no less. It was bizarre, because my habit my freshman year was to wake up at the crack of noon.

Exactly. When I had late classes it was very out of character for me to practically leap out of bed at 9:02 AM.

[stoopified]

The only comfort I get from this is that cokksucker McVeigh is burning in HELL and eternity is a real long time .

[Crucifax Autumn]

Against my better judgment I watched the Maddow MSNBC thing tonight. It had me on the verge of puking because of what a total irridemable bastard he really was, but at the same time I was really glad it DID convey that rather than giving any glory to the slimeball baby murdering cokknocker. It gave a really good overview and instead of his words sounding like anything that would inspire some other sicko it really did seem to be handled in a way that would even cause other would-be terrorists to perhaps rethink their idiocy.

I'm no more a Maddow fan than anyone else here, but in this case I have to give her good marks. Contrary to our worries and even the advertising for the special, it didn't concern itself much with drawing any comparisons to other anti-government movements, but instead kept a steady focus on showing just how cold, ruthless, and worthless the guy really was. Not to mention it showed him as an idiot despite the fact that it would have been easy to slip into implying he was an evil genius. It really showed him for the ***** he was IMO.

I'm not gonna get into any details on some of the other coverage today, but I will say I was disappointed in CNN for the lack of any real coverage and absolutely appalled by Limbaugh's idiotic statements. I understand the point he was attempting to make, but the point was as far off base as possible and he also managed to fail in an epic manner.

Overall, the good coverage and the bad just made me hate that dead hunk of shat even more. Someone needs to dig his azz up and pizz on his rotting face. I even hate that guy more than islamic terrorists who attack us...He did it to his own people for f*ck's sake! They just don't have words bad enough for that self-righteous, soulless, sick little c*nt.

Tomorrow won't be much better either, despite a more complex set of circumstances, the shat at Columbine is pretty damned bad too, mainly because it was so personal and those bastards did it to people they'd shared classrooms with and most of the ones killed weren't the ones they were so angry with.

And that leads me to what really sickens me about these and other incidents of terror...the fact that these arseholes all hurt everyone but the ones they are so angry with. F*ck...

I really need to put down the beers and go to bed before the rage I feel toward these pieces of rotten sh*t overwhelms me. It was bad enough this morning, but now, this late, I just feel sick, angry, confused, and just out of sorts. Why can't all these humans have some humanity????????????

[Boomer_Sooner_sax]

Crucifax, I agree 100% with you. To think someone could be so cold and heartless is amazing, but one thing he said almost made me puke it was so bad. When talking about how the government was going to give him the death penealty, he said "the score was 168 to 1." That shows how cold, useless, and ruthless he really was. He is lucky the people of OKC didn't get to him. He is lucky he went peacfully by a needle. He had it to easy. These people live with that horror ever day and he "escaped" it. Hell is too good for him. I can't tell you my despise for this idiot.

[85Sooner]

I was at work in Austin and received a call to come to OKC to run the family notification building First Christian Church, during the nights. I was there for seven days and for the most part it was just me and two police officers from 9p-7a. I received the death notifications for the day in the AM and learned of the loss of one of my dear friends... See More ... See More and one of my classmates ... Valerie Koelsch. The feds had everything locked up. (Too bad that they didn't know there were other ways into the rooms they were using.) heh. Doing therapy over the phone with friends and family of victims across the country all night was not something that I expected. The best I can describe it is that the demons come out in the darkness. Lots of stories remain with me. I promise that there are a lot of those who helped during that time that are still experiencing difficulties from time to time due to their experiences. My thoughts are with you all.

[stoopified]

Against my better judgment I watched the Maddow MSNBC thing tonight. It had me on the verge of puking because of what a total irridemable bastard he really was, but at the same time I was really glad it DID convey that rather than giving any glory to the slimeball baby murdering cokknocker. It gave a really good overview and instead of his words sounding like anything that would inspire some other sicko it really did seem to be handled in a way that would even cause other would-be terrorists to perhaps rethink their idiocy.

I'm no more a Maddow fan than anyone else here, but in this case I have to give her good marks. Contrary to our worries and even the advertising for the special, it didn't concern itself much with drawing any comparisons to other anti-government movements, but instead kept a steady focus on showing just how cold, ruthless, and worthless the guy really was. Not to mention it showed him as an idiot despite the fact that it would have been easy to slip into implying he was an evil genius. It really showed him for the ***** he was IMO.

I'm not gonna get into any details on some of the other coverage today, but I will say I was disappointed in CNN for the lack of any real coverage and absolutely appalled by Limbaugh's idiotic statements. I understand the point he was attempting to make, but the point was as far off base as possible and he also managed to fail in an epic manner.

Overall, the good coverage and the bad just made me hate that dead hunk of shat even more. Someone needs to dig his azz up and pizz on his rotting face. I even hate that guy more than islamic terrorists who attack us...He did it to his own people for f*ck's sake! They just don't have words bad enough for that self-righteous, soulless, sick little c*nt.

Tomorrow won't be much better either, despite a more complex set of circumstances, the shat at Columbine is pretty damned bad too, mainly because it was so personal and those bastards did it to people they'd shared classrooms with and most of the ones killed weren't the ones they were so angry with.

And that leads me to what really sickens me about these and other incidents of terror...the fact that these arseholes all hurt everyone but the ones they are so angry with. F*ck...

I really need to put down the beers and go to bed before the rage I feel toward these pieces of rotten sh*t overwhelms me. It was bad enough this morning, but now, this late, I just feel sick, angry, confused, and just out of sorts. Why can't all these humans have some humanity????????????I caught it between 11PM and 1AM .I only thought that I understood the evil and depravity of that piece of sh!t,after watching the MSNBC piece I realize I had no clue how TRULY EVIL McVeigh is.I was so overwrought afterward that it was after 230AM before I got to sleep.Had to get up at 730 to get my boys ready for school.It is gonna be a long day.

[btk108]

It's been 15 years...and it's still one of those experiences I don't want to talk about. Skipped the memorial yesterday and spent it with good friends and enjoyed life. That's the most valuable lesson I learned, enjoy everyday and hug your friends like you won't see them tomorrow.

[olevetonahill]

It's been 15 years...and it's still one of those experiences I don't want to talk about. Skipped the memorial yesterday and spent it with good friends and enjoyed life. That's the most valuable lesson I learned, enjoy everyday and hug your friends like you won't see them tomorrow.

WEll said bro.

[BudSooner]

I caught it between 11PM and 1AM .I only thought that I understood the evil and depravity of that piece of sh!t,after watching the MSNBC piece I realize I had no clue how TRULY EVIL McVeigh is.I was so overwrought afterward that it was after 230AM before I got to sleep.Had to get up at 730 to get my boys ready for school.It is gonna be a long day.
I just watched it, don't know why and i'm not sure if there is just cause to see it. I'm just sitting here trying to think of something that can describe what it's like hearing his voice describing in military terms acts of violence towards people he does not know. But I cannot.

There is just no way to comprehend the evil that concocted that plan to take lives and injure. Knowing that Michale Fortier is out there somewhere under another name, under the watchful eye of the government doesn't make me sleep any easier. He is just as guilty as McVeigh/Nichols and should die as well, Nichols should be put to death.

And today will not be any easier, over the past week i've read up on the town I live in..history and what happened in 1977, then the OKC bombing...damn.

After a point you lose touch with reality knowing that the next horrific act is around the corner.