Just saw on Channel 8

[olevetonahill]

That the schools are thinking about selling AD space on the school buses.

Now I really dont care one way or the other, They say they are gonna do this to help the schools raise MONEY to pay for teachers and such .

My question is Wasnt the ****ing lottery supposed to pay for all the schools needs ? Where in hell is THAT money going ?

[delhalew]

It used to go for advertisement for the lottery. Makes a lot of sense huh.
Maybe, the schools can sell ad space to the lottery commission...two birds.

[Leroy Lizard]

That the schools are thinking about selling AD space on the school buses.

Now I really dont care one way or the other, They say they are gonna do this to help the schools raise MONEY to pay for teachers and such .

My question is Wasnt the ****ing lottery supposed to pay for all the schools needs ? Where in hell is THAT money going ?

The same place where all those kajillion tax revenue dollars went from legalizing tattoos. (A dumb idea from a financial angle.)

California wants to legalize marijuana for the same reason. The state will be just as broke after as before. It always works that way.

At least selling ads on school buses doesn't hurt anyone monetarily. Wait until a tattoo parlor wants to buy space. Or Planned Parenthood. Again, don't create problems that you have to solve.

[olevetonahill]

Like I said IDGAS if they do or dont .
I want to know That IF the Lottery was gonna be the savior or our schools , what the hell has happened to the money?

[sooner59]

Supposedly $322,000,000 has been given to Oklahoma higher education (45%), elementary and secondary education (45%), teachers' retirement (5%), and school consolidation and assistance (5%). I don't do their taxes, so I can't back that up, but here is the link that breaks it down. According to the Oklahoma Education Act, 100% of net proceeds go to Oklahoma education.

http://www.lottery.ok.gov/beneficiary_vhtml.asp

Oklahoma Education Act

On November 2, 2004, Oklahomans overwhelmingly voted to pass the "Oklahoma Education Lottery Act". Net proceeds of all lottery games are to be used to support improvements and enhancements for education purposes and programs; furthermore, net proceeds will be used to SUPPLEMENT rather than replace existing funds for education. Proceeds will benefit all levels of education from Pre-K to higher education.

[olevetonahill]

Thats what Im sayin 59 .

The skools should be in great shape .Instead I think the Pos. have shoved another GREAT idea down our throats then pizzed the good part away .:mad:

[Scott D]

Costs continue to go up. Base expenditures (lottery) have to be paid. Another thought to keep in mind vet, is for every $ that the lottery puts into the education system, odds are the state budget took $2 out of the money that was going into education before the lottery passed.

No state should be foolish enough to cut the state budget on education on the promise of lottery money taking over...if anything, the lottery money should be covering budgetary shortfalls.

[Okla-homey]

This will not end well. Wait'll a casino asks to buy ad space. or Budweiser asks. Or Night Trips.

[olevetonahill]

Aint that what 59s post said ?

The lotto was sold as a savior of the skool system.
So now we got the Lotto AND failin skools
Good jorb Gov.

[Scott D]

59 quoted that they were supposed to be supplementing the budget dollars, I'm saying that I'd lay odds that they've been replacing those budget dollars with lottery revenue rather than using it in addition to.

[AlbqSooner]

I am not familiar with the situation in Oklahoma, but when Florida voted for a lottery, the same thing was said, 35 cents of every dollar spent on the lottery will go to education.

The kept that promise and paid 35 cents of every lottery dollar to education. HOWEVER, the state legislature - keeper of the purse strings on the general fund - decided to reduce the amount spent from the general fund on education by an amount roughly equal to the amount that the lottery contributed to education. I suspect Oklahoma's legislature did something similar.

[olevetonahill]

59 quoted that they were supposed to be supplementing the budget dollars, I'm saying that I'd lay odds that they've been replacing those budget dollars with lottery revenue rather than using it in addition to.

I see, I missed that part


I am not familiar with the situation in Oklahoma, but when Florida voted for a lottery, the same thing was said, 35 cents of every dollar spent on the lottery will go to education.

The kept that promise and paid 35 cents of every lottery dollar to education. HOWEVER, the state legislature - keeper of the purse strings on the general fund - decided to reduce the amount spent from the general fund on education by an amount roughly equal to the amount that the lottery contributed to education. I suspect Oklahoma's legislature did something similar.

It all makes sense now :eek:

[Scott D]

it's the same trap nearly every state that participates in the lottery has fallen into.

[olevetonahill]

it's the same trap nearly every state that participates in the lottery has fallen into.

Its the same **** every Gov. be it City , county . State . or Fed feeds the citizen, Just to get what they want approved by the voters .

Dont matter what it is .

[bluedogok]

59 quoted that they were supposed to be supplementing the budget dollars, I'm saying that I'd lay odds that they've been replacing those budget dollars with lottery revenue rather than using it in addition to.
That is exactly what most states did with their "lottery money", tried to replace the education monies from the general fund with lottery money. That way they didn't "lie" to the public, that lottery money was for education but they took the wheelbarrow of original money out the back door for other things. Nothing more than a shell game.

[Harry Beanbag]

That the schools are thinking about selling AD space on the school buses.

Why would Adrian Peterson be interested in riding around on school buses? And why would he pay to do so?

[JohnnyMack]

Why would Adrian Peterson be interested in riding around on school buses? And why would he pay to do so?

He could work on ball control by running up the aisle and letting the kids try and knock the ball away. He does fumble a lot.

[Leroy Lizard]

Supposedly $322,000,000 has been given to Oklahoma higher education (45%), elementary and secondary education (45%), teachers' retirement (5%), and school consolidation and assistance (5%). I don't do their taxes, so I can't back that up, but here is the link that breaks it down. According to the Oklahoma Education Act, 100% of net proceeds go to Oklahoma education.

http://www.lottery.ok.gov/beneficiary_vhtml.asp

Oklahoma Education Act

On November 2, 2004, Oklahomans overwhelmingly voted to pass the "Oklahoma Education Lottery Act". Net proceeds of all lottery games are to be used to support improvements and enhancements for education purposes and programs; furthermore, net proceeds will be used to SUPPLEMENT rather than replace existing funds for education. Proceeds will benefit all levels of education from Pre-K to higher education.

The key is NET proceeds.

[OULenexaman]

HA!!!! You folks should live and see the **** in Chicago that was promised and has never happened...and it's now in DC...

[SicEmBaylor]

Wanda Sykes had the best joke about Tiger's situation that I've heard. In fact, I think it's one of the funniest jokes I've heard all year.

"The black in Tiger bought the Cadillac and the Asian in him crashed it."

I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread.

[Jacie]

When the lottery was started in Texas there was a call for earmarking some of the proceeds for education among other things. It was decided the money would go into the state's general fund rather than doing so because the take from the lottery cannot be controlled or predicted from year to year, unlike having a tax base where the number of people, an example is property owners, paying in a set amount each year. I don't know if this is still the case but it made sense at the time.

[Condescending Sooner]

Costs continue to go up. Base expenditures (lottery) have to be paid. Another thought to keep in mind vet, is for every $ that the lottery puts into the education system, odds are the state budget took $2 out of the money that was going into education before the lottery passed.

No state should be foolish enough to cut the state budget on education on the promise of lottery money taking over...if anything, the lottery money should be covering budgetary shortfalls.

I've corrected you on this before, but here it goes again. By law, the state cannot reduce Education funding received from the general fund to offset proceeds from the lottery. I hear this every time the discussion comes up, and it is just not true.

Education hasn't received the cuts that other agencies have, and have actually seen a large increase in their budgets due to the lottery. Yet, they still cry for more funding. The legislators are afraid to cut any education funding.

[SoonerJack]

I don't know if this is the case in Oklahoma, but in Missouri state tax receipts have declined due to fewer people having jobs, property values have declined (and therefore property tax assessments have declined), while the costs of all of the other components of educating kids have risen.

While our state legislators claim to be "increasing funding for education" on one hand they are taking it away with the other through reductions in reimbursements for transportation offsets, etc.

Anytime someone tells you that if you'll just vote for the ____ and all your education funding problems will go away, they are lying.

[olevetonahill]

Why would Adrian Peterson be interested in riding around on school buses? And why would he pay to do so?

Why ya be such a Dumas ?
AD is gonna get PAID not the other way round !
Which comes back around to Why they Gonna Pay AD ? they jes gonna lose MO money !

[olevetonahill]

When the lottery was started in Texas there was a call for earmarking some of the proceeds for education among other things. It was decided the money would go into the state's general fund rather than doing so because the take from the lottery cannot be controlled or predicted from year to year, unlike having a tax base where the number of people, an example is property owners, paying in a set amount each year. I don't know if this is still the case but it made sense at the time.

Great Bull shat point !
When this was sold to the Okies
it was a Great thing fer Education . Idjits here Bought it Hook Line and sinker !
Property Taxes still Pay the Bulk of Skool costs and the Lotto is just Bucks fer the Idjits in State Gov. To blow !:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :pop:

[olevetonahill]

I don't know if this is the case in Oklahoma, but in Missouri state tax receipts have declined due to fewer people having jobs, property values have declined (and therefore property tax assessments have declined), while the costs of all of the other components of educating kids have risen.

While our state legislators claim to be "increasing funding for education" on one hand they are taking it away with the other through reductions in reimbursements for transportation offsets, etc.

Anytime someone tells you that if you'll just vote for the ____ and all your education funding problems will go away, they are lying.

Well Said Bro

The State whether it Be OK or any other state .
Have Yall noticed that the 5 to 10 mile grace is Now gone ?

Do Not run OVER the speed limit .
Them bastages will Nail ya harder than a 2 bit Ho !

[sooner59]

Well, wherever the money goes, I'm still gonna buy scratch tickets every once in a while. Its fun. I don't really play to make money. I play because of the anticipation. I probably only spend $5 per month on them anyway.

And they might as well call Powerball what it really is.....a tax for people who aren't good at math. :D

[olevetonahill]

I think Ive said this
I bot 4, 1 dollar Scratch thingies
\ Lost my asz on em
Found a scratch ticket dealio on the ground
It were a 20 Buck winner !
I cashed it in
was 16 bucks ahead I quit

:D

[TUSooner]

Why would Adrian want space on a school bus? Oh wait....

[StoopTroup]

Or Night Trips.

What is this Night Trips you speak of?