Best Coach(es) to not win AP/UPI/BCS title?

[SteelClip49]

Who do you think?

Here are some names.......


Frank Kush
Bill Snyder
Frank Beamer
Bo Schembechler
John Cooper
R.C. Slocum
Bobby Dodd
John Vaught
Frank Broyles
Chris Peterson
Barry Alvarez
Don Nehlen
Jackie Sherrill

[yermom]

i really wish Mack Brown was still on that list :D

[Mississippi Sooner]

Bennie Owen!

[oumartin]

John Blake, I mean he did have the players in place and if not for that dang Bob Stoops.



Mike Gundy

[badger]

John Blake, I mean he did have the players in place and if not for that dang Bob Stoops.
Didn't he win as a player?




Mike Gundy

[hairGel]:les:
two coaches diverged in the forest. OSU took the one less experienced and that made all the difference :D

[Leroy Lizard]

Bill Snyder. Easily.

[rawlingsHOH]

Didn't he win as a player?


I don't think so.

[SoCal]

Lane Kiffin
Gerry Faust
Mike Shula
Mike Dubose.....

Gary Patterson
Hayden Fry
Pat Dye
Paul Johnson
Kirk Ferentz
Mike Belotti
Mike Leach
Dick Macpherson

[oudavid1]

Lane Kiffin
Gerry Faust
Mike Shula
Mike Dubose.....

Gary Patterson
Hayden Fry
Pat Dye
Paul Johnson
Kirk Ferentz
Mike Belotti

Mike Leach
Dick Macpherson



The Best Evar!

[Herr Scholz]

i really wish Mack Brown was still on that list :D

And Les Miles too I imagine.

[Leroy Lizard]

Let's not forget Glen Mason of Kansas.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

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Hayden Fox.

[Jacie]

I thought Sherrill did win when he was at Pitt but he only finished #2. Was surprised to find out he was born in Duncan, OK though.

As for Schembechler, given that he coached 21 seasons at Michigan and did not win an AP/UPI/BCS title, does he deserve to be on a list of Best Coaches in that category? Maybe he should be on the list of Worst Coaches not to win a title . . .

[Leroy Lizard]

There are a lot of really bad coaches who haven't won a title. :D

BTW, you could also say the same about Hayden Frey. (Although I have always liked him since he turned UT into the SWC for recruiting violations.)

[agoo758]

Allow me to venture Jerry Moore.

Despite his lack of success at Tech, he has done a phenominal job at App. State.

[Sonner magic923]

Bo Schembechler

This one surprised me. He was well before my time but I always hear about how great he was. With a little research though, wow 3-10 in big bowls (Rose & Orange) and lost the first six. So was his whole legacy just on the fact that he gave Ohio State a good fight or what?

[Salt City Sooner]

Bo Schembechler

This one surprised me. He was well before my time but I always hear about how great he was. With a little research though, wow 3-10 in big bowls (Rose & Orange) and lost the first six. So was his whole legacy just on the fact that he gave Ohio State a good fight or what?
Well, that & the fact that he got his Masters from Ohio St., & was an assistant under Woody Hayes there for several years.


Oh, I'd also nominate Terry Donahue for this thread. All-time winningest coach in the Pac-10 & a HOF'er.

[boomermagic]

I think Frank Broyles won one NC at Arkansas {1964} NOT AP OR UPI> As for the best to not win one Snyder might be the best period..

[Leroy Lizard]

Bo Schembechler

This one surprised me. He was well before my time but I always hear about how great he was. With a little research though, wow 3-10 in big bowls (Rose & Orange) and lost the first six.

I'm not inclined to criticize Bo over his Big Bowl record.

[Breadburner]

Pat Hill Fresno State.....

[oumartin]

I'm not inclined to criticize Bo over his Big Bowl record.


why? ;)

[Leroy Lizard]

Pat Hill Fresno State.....

Depends on who you talk to. I have a friend who lives in Fresno and he says many of the locals want him out.

[JLEW1818]

Charlie Weis

[Sabanball]

As a true fan of the Tide, it's kinda hard for me to say this but gotta give credit where credit is due.

Pat Dye would definitely be on my list --he had a pretty good run at Auburn in the eighties and probably deserved at least one of those titles after the 1983 season when Nebraska and Texas both went down in their new years day bowl games at the conclusion of that season, when the barners were ranked
3rd right behind both of them.

[silverwheels]

Bo Schembechler

This one surprised me. He was well before my time but I always hear about how great he was. With a little research though, wow 3-10 in big bowls (Rose & Orange) and lost the first six. So was his whole legacy just on the fact that he gave Ohio State a good fight or what?

Michigan football is extremely overrated.


Also, in the opposite direction of the thread, Les Miles has to be hands-down the worst coach to win a BCS title.


Wait, I forgot about Larry Coker.

[ashley]

But, the won didn't they.

[royalfan5]

I think Mike Price has to be mentioned here. Getting Wazzu to a Rose Bowl is pretty impressive. He has coached at some of the worst outposts in CFB and had a reasonable amount of success. However, there is probably a reason he was stuck in outposts give the Bama debacle.

[OU_Sooners75]

Dennis Franchione

[Sabanball]

I think Mike Price has to be mentioned here. Getting Wazzu to a Rose Bowl is pretty impressive. He has coached at some of the worst outposts in CFB and had a reasonable amount of success. However, there is probably a reason he was stuck in outposts give the Bama debacle.

You've got to be kidding. Dont get me wrong--Mike Price is a decent coach, but I would not rank him as one of the best to not win a title.

[Sabanball]

Dennis Franchione

A competent coach whose career peaked with us, but a very weird person. As a Bama fan, that's all I 'll say...

[Breadburner]

Depends on who you talk to. I have a friend who lives in Fresno and he says many of the locals want him out.

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.....

[Leroy Lizard]

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand.....

Yeah it does.

[PalmBeachSooner]

Sherry Coale

[Leroy Lizard]

Never heard of her.

[goingoneight]

Urban Meyer...

... because we all know that was all about the Snipper.

[royalfan5]

You've got to be kidding. Dont get me wrong--Mike Price is a decent coach, but I would not rank him as one of the best to not win a title.

No worse than some of the others mentioned.

[Jacie]

Does Fred Akers make the list for coming within 2 points of winning one . . .

[PrideTrombone]

Bill Snyder took KANSAS FREAKING STATE from...

"by 1989 the school was statistically the worst program in NCAA Division I with an overall record of 299-509-41."

to one Texas A&M upset away from the BCS title game in 1998.

Snyder HAS to be #1 on this list.

[ashley]

Bill Yoeman

[Leroy Lizard]

Did Knute Rockne ever win one?

[The Remnant]

George Allen