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Collier11
4/3/2010, 10:27 PM
Monday Night, be there!

Collier11
4/3/2010, 10:28 PM
BTW, I dont see any possible way that Butler can keep Duke off the boards or stop them inside so they are gonna have to shoot lights out to hang with Duke IMO

Boomer.....
4/3/2010, 10:29 PM
They will definitely have to shoot better than they did tonight. Go Butler!

silverwheels
4/3/2010, 10:30 PM
Butler is a scrappy team, though. I wouldn't count them out. They are capable of shooting as well as or better than Duke, and they play great defense.

Collier11
4/3/2010, 10:31 PM
certainly not counting them out, they havent lost yet either. Just think if all things play out normal, Duke is a better team. Im hoping for a great game

silverwheels
4/3/2010, 10:32 PM
Yeah, Duke probably is the better team, but Butler is here for a reason, and hopefully they win.

Collier11
4/3/2010, 10:34 PM
itd be a cool deal

SoonerJack
4/3/2010, 10:39 PM
Go Butler!!

Curly Bill
4/3/2010, 11:38 PM
I don't care for Duke one damn bit, but I still hope they trounce Butler.

I only want to hear the term Cinderella so many times.

Collier11
4/3/2010, 11:43 PM
Venables

Salt City Sooner
4/3/2010, 11:48 PM
I don't care for Duke one damn bit, but I still hope they trounce Butler.

I only want to hear the term Cinderella so many times.
If you hear it at all, then whoever said it was mistaken. Butler was ranked #11 in the first poll this year, exactly 2 spots behind Duke. They're a good team who doesn't need any glass slipper talk.

Collier11
4/3/2010, 11:56 PM
theyve beat a ton of really good teams, the only reason people say cindarella is cus of their conf, kinda like Boise

Curly Bill
4/3/2010, 11:59 PM
If you hear it at all, then whoever said it was mistaken. Butler was ranked #11 in the first poll this year, exactly 2 spots behind Duke. They're a good team who doesn't need any glass slipper talk.

They may be mistaken, but hype is hype, and one way to hype this is to portray Duke as the big ol traditional power against the Cinderella kids from Butler.

misplacedsooner
4/4/2010, 01:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy8NVPmbHOk

Sooner95
4/4/2010, 01:23 PM
Looking forward to it. Butler will have to step up against Duke's bigs..but this Butler team just seems to be able to find a way to win. Hayward is top notch..though they will need Mack healthy.

Sooner95
4/4/2010, 01:26 PM
Of course, I just read that Mack was just sick and will be fine, it's Howard who is banged up and a game time desicion. They have to have him.

JLEW1818
4/4/2010, 03:52 PM
In

Eielson
4/4/2010, 04:03 PM
I'm picking Duke to win by about 15-20. I've got respect for what Butler has done, but I have more for West Virginia.

wolfeco24
4/4/2010, 09:13 PM
Duke winning wins me 600 in my bracket. Go Duke!

JLEW1818
4/5/2010, 08:25 PM
Butler is winning :D

Collier11
4/5/2010, 08:44 PM
Duke is winning, good game so far though

oumartin
4/5/2010, 08:50 PM
again, absolutley no fouls being called when butler drives the ball, there have been a couple clean blocks but holy smoke they are getting mugged on occassion

PLaw
4/5/2010, 09:04 PM
If Butler wins, then we hopefully have heard the last of the BSU Fiesta bowl.

GO BUTLER!!

Collier11
4/5/2010, 09:25 PM
Really good 1st half

and again, Martin, NO.

I have seen about 4 that shouldve been called on Duke when Butler was driving but I have also seen a cpl that werent called when Duke was driving

Collier11
4/5/2010, 09:41 PM
good 2nd half so far, all tied up

Collier11
4/5/2010, 09:53 PM
now that charge on Hawyard was a bad call

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 09:55 PM
One of the few games I've seen Duke in where I didn't think they were gifted several calls. I think if anything Butler is being given some gifts.

OU Adonis
4/5/2010, 09:59 PM
Is it me or do these teams seem like they are slow?

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:04 PM
Is it me or do these teams seem like they are slow?

It's all the white guys. ;)

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:04 PM
they play Defense

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:06 PM
The officiating in this game is below average.

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:06 PM
The officiating in this game is below average.

No doubt.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:07 PM
Who fouls out first? Howard for Butler or Zoobeck from Duke?

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:10 PM
Back to Duke?

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:13 PM
Duke is one big shot from possibly putting this away, Butler is one big shot from stealing momentum

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:14 PM
we may be going right down to the wire here

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:15 PM
Nothing flagrant my ***.

Thomas sure as hell wasn't going for the ball there.

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:16 PM
Nothing flagrant my ***.

Thomas sure as hell wasn't going for the ball there.

Oh please! The dude fell, that doesn't make it a flagrant.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:17 PM
Duke is in worse foul trouble right now.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:18 PM
Singler is smoove


and Grapevine, cmon dude, take the hater shades off. There was nothing at all flagrant about that, he reached his arm in for the all and got his arm, a good solid foul but no flagrant.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:19 PM
Wasn't flagrant.

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:19 PM
Singler is smoove


and Grapevine, cmon dude, take the hater shades off. There was nothing at all flagrant about that, he reached his arm in for the all and got his arm, a good solid foul but no flagrant.

He wasn't reaching for the ball. It wasn't malicious, to be sure.

But don't try and tell me he was going for the ball there.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:21 PM
what the hell was malicious about it? cus the dude fell hard, that wasnt a flagrant in any way, shape, or form

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:22 PM
The ball was in Haywards hand, Thomas reached in and hit his arm, that is not malicious

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:22 PM
I want to see Scheyer, Zoobeck, and Thomas foul out, then it go to OT, hehe.

tommieharris91
4/5/2010, 10:23 PM
Not flagrant.

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:23 PM
what the hell was malicious about it? cus the dude fell hard, that wasnt a flagrant in any way, shape, or form

I didn't say it was.


He wasn't reaching for the ball. It wasn't malicious, to be sure.Nobody got hurt, the Butler kid did flop on the play.

Let's move on.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:24 PM
thanks for admitting you were wrong :D


coming down to the wire

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:26 PM
btw, I misread what you wrote, I thought you said it was malicious

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:26 PM
That was not a good shot by Butler.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:26 PM
One more basket by Duke and its getting away from Butler.

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:27 PM
btw, I misread what you wrote, I thought you said it was malicious

No problem.

In hindsight, it probably was the right call by the ref in that situation.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:27 PM
3 pt game, 1:35 left

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:28 PM
1 pt game!!!

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:28 PM
Uh oh.

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:28 PM
How do you miss a layup Duke???

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:28 PM
Please let Duke lose.......pleeeeaaaaase. :D

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:29 PM
Please let Duke lose.......pleeeeaaaaase. :D

Oh shut up!

I don't wanna be hearing about the miracle of Butler for the next 20 years! :mad:

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:30 PM
Singler is taking this shot

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:30 PM
I actually kinda like Duke, but I have to go for Butler. Still not better than the 1966 upset.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:31 PM
Butler ball

GrapevineSooner
4/5/2010, 10:31 PM
I think Butler got away with about 3 loose ball fouls there. :D

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:31 PM
13.6 left :eek:

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:31 PM
I don't like Duke at all, and I still hope they win.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:31 PM
Win it or lose it with one shot here.

starrca23
4/5/2010, 10:32 PM
Butler can't let Duke take the last shot. Gotta score with less than 4 on the clock.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:32 PM
Duke is at that magic # of 60, will it be enough

tommieharris91
4/5/2010, 10:33 PM
I can't wait for the buzzer beater that wins the NC.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:33 PM
why doesnt Gus Johnson call the final 4, what a sham

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:34 PM
man, im actually kinda nervous

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:35 PM
Heyward needs it.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:35 PM
That was a tough miss.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:35 PM
man, that shot was on line, just a little long...big FTs here for Zoubek, no timeouts for Butler

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:36 PM
1st one good

starrca23
4/5/2010, 10:36 PM
Dang.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:36 PM
Hawyard almost hit it from half court, holy ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:37 PM
OMG! That halfcourter nearly dropped.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:37 PM
guys dont forget, Butler returns their 4 best players

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:38 PM
Holy Carp!

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:38 PM
WHAT.A.GAME

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:38 PM
Good game. Props to Butler for playing hard. I thought Duke might run away with it.

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:38 PM
guys dont forget, Butler returns their 4 best players

Yeah, but those glass slippers don't have much wear in them.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:39 PM
Butler is legit, theyre no cindarella except in the medias eyes. They will be back

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:40 PM
Butler is legit, theyre no cindarella except in the medias eyes. They will be back

They'll probably get back in the dance, but I bet they don't make another run at it.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:41 PM
I bet they make atleast the sweet 16 if Hayward doesnt go pro...wanna make a bet? :D

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:42 PM
They will make it to the Sweet 16 where they are no stranger. May depend who they play whether or not they have a shot at an Elite 8 or Final Four.

yankee
4/5/2010, 10:43 PM
**** dook.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:44 PM
how much are Duke fans loving this right now, NC was in the NIT while they just won a Natl title, lol

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:47 PM
I bet they make atleast the sweet 16 if Hayward doesnt go pro...wanna make a bet? :D

I got $50 that says they don't make the elite 8.

I'll go $20 on them not making the Sweet 16.

JLEW1818
4/5/2010, 10:47 PM
Gordon Hayward is the man. Good night

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:48 PM
I bet they make atleast the sweet 16 if Hayward doesnt go pro...wanna make a bet? :D

Go pro? Where at, in Europe?

Collier11
4/5/2010, 10:50 PM
I got $50 that says they don't make the elite 8.

I'll go $20 on them not making the Sweet 16.


Ill take the sweet 16, too much has to happen with the tourney draw to make the elite 8 and beyond. $20 is it...


Go pro? Where at, in Europe?

Hayward is a borderline 1st rd draft pick already buddy, check the draft sites. This tourney only helped him

Curly Bill
4/5/2010, 10:52 PM
Ill take the sweet 16, too much has to happen with the tourney draw to make the elite 8 and beyond. $20 is it...

OK, you're on.



Hayward is a borderline 1st rd draft pick already buddy, check the draft sites. This tourney only helped him

Maybe so, but I don't see it. To me he's just another crafty white guy that doesn't have the athleticism to excel in the NBA. Maybe make it as a journeyman.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:54 PM
I am tempted to take the Sweet 16 bet, but as soon as I did they would end up meeting a team that couldn't miss a shot in round 2.

sooner59
4/5/2010, 10:59 PM
Maybe so, but I don't see it. To me he's just another crafty white guy that doesn't have the athleticism to excel in the NBA. Maybe make it as a journeyman.

Same could have been said about Larry Bird back in the day. He was a crafty semi-athletic white guy who was looked at to make big shots......also took a small Indiana school to a title game back in 1979. Now Bird also won the Naismith and Wooden awards and was POY and finished 5 all-time in NCAA scoring. But never count out a white dude that can ball. :D

silverwheels
4/5/2010, 11:04 PM
Same could have been said about Larry Bird back in the day. He was a crafty semi-athletic white guy who was looked at to make big shots......also took a small Indiana school to a title game back in 1979. Now Bird also won the Naismith and Wooden awards and was POY and finished 5 all-time in NCAA scoring. But never count out a white dude that can ball. :D

Basketball is a little different than it was then.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 11:17 PM
if Korver, Harpring, Redick, etc... can make it in the NBA, Hayward can

Eielson
4/5/2010, 11:38 PM
Basketball is a little different than it was then.

There isn't a time period where Bird wouldn't have been one of the best.

Eielson
4/5/2010, 11:42 PM
Redick, etc... can make it in the NBA, Hayward can

Redick was twice the college player Hayward is, and his most notable NBA achievement to date is air balling a lay-up.

misplacedsooner
4/5/2010, 11:46 PM
bird in his prime would be a stud in todays game and if you think different your wrong!!
props to duke...still cant stand them but the refs let em play on both sides so i got nothing to say about the refs. it was a good game that could of went either way.

Collier11
4/5/2010, 11:46 PM
Redick is avg 13 ppg game this year, he will never be a superstar but will have a long career.

My point is that hayward is more athletic than Redick although Redick is a better shooter

misplacedsooner
4/5/2010, 11:48 PM
[QUOTE=Eielson;2862210]Redick was twice the college player Hayward is,

i doubt that

Collier11
4/5/2010, 11:53 PM
[QUOTE=Eielson;2862210]Redick was twice the college player Hayward is,

i doubt that

Redick was natl player of the year in back to back seasons (won 1 natl poy award his jr year), 2 time ACC poy, is Dukes all time leading scorer, 2nd in ACC history, etc... lets be real now

misplacedsooner
4/5/2010, 11:55 PM
ok dang it he was good and you have no idea how it pains me to say that....he is one of the reasons i dislike duke along with laitner, bilis, gminski...the list goes on.

Eielson
4/5/2010, 11:56 PM
Redick was twice the college player Hayward is


i doubt that

Okay fine. If two Haywards played against one Redick, they would probably win.

hawaii 5-0
4/6/2010, 12:49 AM
I was very impressed with the movement of the players that didn't have the ball. Very little standing around. On both teams

misplacedsooner
4/6/2010, 12:51 AM
actually 1 on 1 id put my money on hayward...

Curly Bill
4/6/2010, 12:13 PM
I gotta say: I didn't see anyone on the floor last night from Butler that reminded me of Larry Bird.

Eielson
4/6/2010, 05:17 PM
actually 1 on 1 id put my money on hayward...

In a real game of basketball, I'd take Redick.

JLEW1818
4/6/2010, 06:15 PM
Hayward only a soph.

now i don't really know much about judging "college to NBA talent"

but if he entered would he be a first rounder?

Collier11
4/6/2010, 10:01 PM
he is projected as one, not sure how that would play out after draft camps and stuff. I think he needs to work on his shot, he has all the intangibles though

sooner59
4/14/2010, 10:31 PM
Hayward just declared for the draft. So I take back my Butler prediction for next year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5088162

Collier11
4/14/2010, 11:36 PM
he isnt getting an agent I dont think?