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RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/20/2010, 01:09 AM
Out of Aspen: I had not seen this til today.
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100228/ASPENWEEKLY/100229854&parentprofile=search

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 01:35 AM
wasnt it dick cheney who said it... defecits dont matter?

you rail on and on and on about how bad the president is for america, and yet the republicans still offer no solutions.

if we are so bad off right now, is it really because obama has been there for a year, or were we headed down this road long before then?

im still waiting for a single republican lawmaker to offer a solution to the massive problems facing our nation, yet all they do is whatever they can to protect the status quo, which is that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. i still hold to my (and many experts) belief that this entire mess was caused by the short-sightedness of a few republican lawmakers in the late 90s/early 2000s. had the restrictions limiting the interactivity between investment banking and insurance companies never been removed, this entire financial meltdown would have never occurred in the first place. but it has. this is what we have and still i have yet to hear anything from the right side of the isle other than how bad the left sides ideas are, and not offering up a single solution of thier own.

im sure ill get even more negs for this, but seriously... what are the republicans offering?

if one of em has a better idea, lets hear it.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/20/2010, 02:06 AM
wasnt it dick cheney who said it... defecits dont matter?

you rail on and on and on about how bad the president is for america, and yet the republicans still offer no solutions.

if we are so bad off right now, is it really because obama has been there for a year, or were we headed down this road long before then?

im still waiting for a single republican lawmaker to offer a solution to the massive problems facing our nation, yet all they do is whatever they can to protect the status quo, which is that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. i still hold to my (and many experts) belief that this entire mess was caused by the short-sightedness of a few republican lawmakers in the late 90s/early 2000s. had the restrictions limiting the interactivity between investment banking and insurance companies never been removed, this entire financial meltdown would have never occurred in the first place. but it has. this is what we have and still i have yet to hear anything from the right side of the isle other than how bad the left sides ideas are, and not offering up a single solution of thier own.

im sure ill get even more negs for this, but seriously... what are the republicans offering?

if one of em has a better idea, lets hear it.What do you think the R's are going to do to stop Obama's socialism?(after this yr's election)

yermom
3/20/2010, 02:57 AM
whatever their corporate sponsors want them to

SoonerBorn68
3/20/2010, 03:23 AM
wasnt it dick cheney who said it... defecits dont matter?

you rail on and on and on about how bad the president is for america, and yet the republicans still offer no solutions.


Here's a simple solution: Stop trying to ram this "health care" legislation down America's throat. I agree we need health care reform, but to vote "aye" on a bill that is 2000+ pages? Even the president doesn't know what's in it--he admitted it in the Baier interview. There's so much bull**** in there that doesn't pertain to anything about healthcare. The president is obsessed with it. He's so arrogant he won't back off and redo the bill to make consessions.

The people don't want this bill, the liberal Democrats do. This oligarchy will pay dearly for not listening to the American people.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 03:26 AM
wasnt it dick cheney who said it... defecits dont matter?

you rail on and on and on about how bad the president is for america, and yet the republicans still offer no solutions.

if we are so bad off right now, is it really because obama has been there for a year, or were we headed down this road long before then?

im still waiting for a single republican lawmaker to offer a solution to the massive problems facing our nation, yet all they do is whatever they can to protect the status quo, which is that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. i still hold to my (and many experts) belief that this entire mess was caused by the short-sightedness of a few republican lawmakers in the late 90s/early 2000s. had the restrictions limiting the interactivity between investment banking and insurance companies never been removed, this entire financial meltdown would have never occurred in the first place. but it has. this is what we have and still i have yet to hear anything from the right side of the isle other than how bad the left sides ideas are, and not offering up a single solution of thier own.

im sure ill get even more negs for this, but seriously...what are the republicans offering?

if one of em has a better idea, lets hear it.

You have a list of some kind, or a link naming these "experts?"

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 03:28 AM
You have a list of some kind, or a link naming these "experts?"

ill find it tomorrow. too tired right now.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 03:30 AM
ill find it tomorrow. too tired right now.

I know right? Making the world a better more socialist place is tough work. ;)

SoonerBorn68
3/20/2010, 03:33 AM
ill find it tomorrow. too tired right now.

LAS has another troll?

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 03:37 AM
LAS has another troll?

It's looking like a strong possibility.

There's LAS, the: I'm really a republican, I just think and post like a liberal poster.

...and then there's GKeeper: Republicans suck, I'm a liberal and proud of it poster.

I see a connection. :D

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 03:48 AM
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html

heres a pretty good list, and granted most of the guys on there are corporate ceos, but it was the **** phil gramm pulled that let them do what they did.

phil gramm is a piece of **** rat bastard ******* and the champion of republican economic theory that once called the american working class "a bunch of whiners"

and not all republican suck. i really like ron paul and would have voted for him had he won the nomination instead of mccain, who i might have voted for were it not for his extremely poor choice of vice presidential candidate.

and conversely, i think there's plenty of democrats that suck balls as well. nancy pelosi comes to mind. shes just a bitch that refuses to listen to anything the republicans have to say, just because they're republicans.

keep the negs coming... im starting to like em.

SoonerBorn68
3/20/2010, 03:55 AM
I see a connection. :D

It's the D Factor they both have in common. ;)

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 03:56 AM
I wanted that list of experts you said blame republicans for our fiscal mess. The list you gave above is definitely not that.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:01 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102312504

here ya go... these are experts.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:07 AM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=102312504

here ya go... these are experts.

Wow, 6 people comprises your "many" experts?

Really?

Oh, and I missed the part where even these 6 said republicans are to blame.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:08 AM
and feel free to google the **** for yourself. it wont kill you to read and understand what happened, when, and by whom.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:09 AM
Wow, 6 people comprises your "many" experts?

Really?

drop in the bucket. it isnt my job to try to educate you. be proactive and find out for yourself, or just keep on blaming obama, even tho all hes doing is reacting to a ****ty situation thats been in the making for the last 15-20 years.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:10 AM
and feel free to google the **** for yourself. it wont kill you to read and understand what happened, when, and by whom.

You're the one that mentioned "many" experts. I figured you'd have some proof of that, as opposed to just being full of ****.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:13 AM
drop in the bucket. it isnt my job to try to educate you. be proactive and find out for yourself, or just keep on blaming obama, even tho all hes doing is reacting to a ****ty situation thats been in the making for the last 15-20 years.

Drop in the bucket? Then come on, where are the rest of them?

You keep talking crap, like some crazed marxist demon, just admit you're doing nothing more than providing your own looney-assed opinion and don't mention things like "many experts" agree with me.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:19 AM
You're the one that mentioned "many" experts. I figured you'd have some proof of that, as opposed to just being full of ****.

your being on this board is proof that you own a computer. a simple google search will bring up many results full of experts chiming in and how it all went down.

if you're too lazy to spend a few hours reading what all those experts opinions are on this mess, thats your own problem.

seriously. why is it that its my resposibility to educate you? are you incapable of doing your own research?

instead of calling me out, why dont you get off your *** and propose an alternate theory of whose to blame for this. im all ears.

prove to me it wasnt phil gramm and his gramm-leach-bliley act that repealed depression era safeguards that were in place to prevent exactly this sort of thing. go ahead. if you can prove to me that it wasnt a handful of republicans sneaking in this ****-poor legislation on the last day of congress's session before the christmas break in 99, when less than half of congress was actually there to vote, ill delete my soonerfans account and you'll never hear from me ever again.

go ahead.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:22 AM
I asked you to provide some proof of an outlandish statement you made. You now trying to turn this into a "why don't you educate yourself" tirade is proof that you can't do that.

So, I was right, you're simply full of ****.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:25 AM
I asked you to provide some proof of an outlandish statement you made. You now trying to turn this into a "why don't you educate yourself" tirade is proof that you can't do that.

So, I was right, you're simply full of ****.

nope ive done my research. im waiting for you to provide me with your reasoning that it is all obama's fault, and you cant. because instead of educating yourself, all you can do is bash me personally.

http://www.google.com/search?q=whos+to+blame+for+the+financial+crisis&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en

heres your list. now wheres your alternate theory?

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:26 AM
By the way, you're definitely not an LAS troll. While your feeble attempt at diversionary tactics is indeed out of the LAS playbook, the fact it was such a poor attempt I'll take as an indication you are not LAS.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:27 AM
im just curious to know who you blame and why, but you're unable to do that because you dont know. all you know is grrr obama bad

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:28 AM
nope ive done my research. im waiting for you to provide me with your reasoning that it is all obama's fault, and you cant. because instead of educating yourself, all you can do is bash me personally.

http://www.google.com/search?q=whos+to+blame+for+the+financial+crisis&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en

heres your list. now wheres your alternate theory?

First show me where I said it was all Obama's fault.

...and bashing you is easy. It's the proverbial battle of wits against an unarmed man. I almost feel sorry for your situation. :D

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:30 AM
how is it diversionary to offer up my opinion which, incidently is backed up by fact, while you have yet to offer up a countering theory of your own?

then whose fault is it?

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:33 AM
You get me that list of "many experts" blaming republicans for this mess, and we'll take it from there. Most everything you've said since then is just attempting to gloss over you were full of **** when you said that.

So, in other words: you first Karl.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:35 AM
By the way Karl, you're starting to be bothered by my perceived picking on you. That happened/happens to you a lot huh? :D


LOL Karl, I crack myself up sometimes! :D

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:38 AM
percieved yet you call me karl... im assuming thats karl marx, correct? hows about i call you karl and you can try to figure out who im talking about.

i may be an *******, but at least i dont have to resort to personal attacks on people with differing viewpoints than me because im incapable of making up my own mind based on my own understanding of a particular subject.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:44 AM
hell even the article this thread is about just bashes the president and offers up not a single alternative solution.

its just obamas bad the country's in a world of **** and i dont like it, but i cant reason my way out of a paper bag and completely lack the capacity for abstract thought, so im not going to try to help fix it. im just gonna keep spouting the same tired anti obama rhetoric till im hoarse because i dont have any idea how to even try to fix it. all i know is that if a democrat thought it up, it must be wrong.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 04:45 AM
Oh Karl, I can appreciate that you have a differing viewpoint. I just can't appreciate you making an outlandish statement how "many experts" blame this mess on republicans and yet you can provide me no proof that such is the case.

Let's just say you were well-intentioned when you said that, you know: trying to lend a little credence to your personally held opinion. I mean, who would really expect you to prove a statement like that right? Then here I come along and be all mean to you. Life is tough Karl, you'll learn from this and be more careful in the future.

SoonerBorn68
3/20/2010, 04:48 AM
http://gacetacojonuda.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/slingblade_240_001.jpg
Karl

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:53 AM
http://gacetacojonuda.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/slingblade_240_001.jpg
Karl

well i do likes me some french fried taters...

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:57 AM
you'll learn from this and be more careful in the future.

no i wont. when it comes to politics and the free exchange of ideas, ill rant rave and holler my point till theres nothing left to debate.

thats one of the great things about america. i can say my peace freely and without fear of persecution, even tho my opinion may be vastly different than yours. and ill go to great lengths to make sure you can do the same, even though i think you're very wrong.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 04:58 AM
and it isnt anti american to voice opposition to what may be the popular idea... in my opinion its the most patriotic thing any free thinking person can do.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 05:02 AM
no i wont. when it comes to politics and the free exchange of ideas, ill rant rave and holler my point till theres nothing left to debate.

thats one of the great things about america. i can say my peace freely and without fear of persecution, even tho my opinion may be vastly different than yours. and ill go to great lengths to make sure you can do the same, even though i think you're very wrong.

LOL, you don't know what I think.

The reason you don't know is because I haven't shared that with you. What I have done in this thread is ask you to provide some proof of a statement you made, proof that I knew you could not provide. So far I've been proven right.

Curly Bill
3/20/2010, 05:05 AM
Karl, I'm going to do an LAS-like thing myself here and declare myself the winner in this thread and call it good.

You get me some proof of those "many experts" you said blame our current fiscal mess on republicans and we might revisit the issue.

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 05:15 AM
and i told you a simple google search will list all the experts you can shake a stick at, new york times, wall street journal, washington post... its all right there for you to read for yourself.

it isnt my fault you wont do it.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/20/2010, 08:13 AM
Karl, I'm going to do an LAS-like thing myself here and declare myself the winner in this thread and call it good.

You get me some proof of those "many experts" you said blame our current fiscal mess on republicans and we might revisit the issue.He isn't concerned with the (D)politicians forcing the mortgage industry to abandon their eligibility requirements, in order to make bad loans to the democrat voting base, which really was the main cause of the recession/depression. Oh, no, not GKeeper.

walkoffsooner
3/20/2010, 09:52 AM
Thats what amazes me about politics, people will take sides and defend it to the death on which party they want to take all there money. And spend it on hookers and booze.

olevetonahill
3/20/2010, 10:37 AM
I asked you to provide some proof of an outlandish statement you made. You now trying to turn this into a "why don't you educate yourself" tirade is proof that you can't do that.

So, I was right, you're simply full of ****.

Must be a LAS Troll
Las said he could buy Hand grenades and rocket launchers at a Gun show in LA . then he said he hit a target at 1000 yards with a spotter! said spotter was his Bro.
We are ALL still waitin on the Proof .:pop:

olevetonahill
3/20/2010, 10:47 AM
Thats what amazes me about politics, people will take sides and defend it to the death on which party they want to take all there money. And spend it on hookers and booze.

Ya say that Like its a BAD thing !:eek:

walkoffsooner
3/20/2010, 11:27 AM
Yea what was I thinking

Scott D
3/20/2010, 02:44 PM
Thats what amazes me about politics, people will take sides and defend it to the death on which party they want to take all there money. And spend it on hookers and booze.

don't forget discovering they're gay well into their time in DC...apparently there's something in the bottled water on Capitol Hill ;)

Dio
3/20/2010, 03:53 PM
don't forget discovering they're gay well into their time in DC...apparently there's something in the bottled water on Capitol Hill ;)

It is the bottled water...go watch Heathers.