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JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 04:20 PM
i really think its only a matter of time before it gets moved to Jerry World and the big screen stadium.

OK2U
3/16/2010, 04:30 PM
Floating barge on Lake Texoma

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 04:31 PM
move it to the Sun Bowl

soonerfan28
3/16/2010, 04:46 PM
I'm all for Jerry World. I love tradition but make all the money you can.

Collier11
3/16/2010, 04:49 PM
Home n Home would be retarded, lets face it though, Fair Park is a dump and is not safe.

Jerry World is where it needs to be

MamaMia
3/16/2010, 04:51 PM
i really think its only a matter of time before it gets moved to Jerry World and the big screen stadium. Unless the Texas State Fair moves, that game will stay right where it is.

Collier11
3/16/2010, 04:53 PM
$$$$ Mama, eventually they all follow the $$$$

silverwheels
3/16/2010, 04:53 PM
I'd rather see it go home and home than go to that monstrosity in Arlington.

Collier11
3/16/2010, 04:54 PM
I dont want those *********s from Austin anywhere near my Great Town

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 04:55 PM
could you imagine going to Austin for a game....

has anyone alive ever been to the horns stadium to see OU-ut?
1922
heh.

silverwheels
3/16/2010, 04:56 PM
I dont want those *********s from Austin anywhere near my Great Town

Why not? I'd like to see how those *******s would act when they're outnumbered 10-1. Bet they wouldn't be so cocky and full of themselves then.

Collier11
3/16/2010, 04:59 PM
yea right

Herr Scholz
3/16/2010, 05:00 PM
Why not? I'd like to see how those *******s would act when they're outnumbered 10-1. Bet they wouldn't be so cocky and full of themselves then.

Oh yeah? Well meet me behind the gym after school. Be there or be square.

And I hope the game never moves from Fair Park. It's perfection there.

oudavid1
3/16/2010, 05:01 PM
Guys guys guys!! Fair Park forEVAR! I go every year now and Absolutely love it! And I don't even have great seats, 4 rows from the top. I know the "hood" is bad but its all apart of it. And home and home is insane, I don't wanna go there and I don't want them here, it would be so bad with security. This game is meant to stay and the latest contract has them in fair park til 2015.

silverwheels
3/16/2010, 05:02 PM
Oh yeah? Well meet me behind the gym after school. Be there or be square.

And I hope the game never moves from Fair Park. It's perfection there.

At least this Horn has it right.


And it's a knife fight, sucka. :D

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 05:04 PM
Guys guys guys!! Fair Park forEVAR! I go every year now and Absolutely love it! And I don't even have great seats, 4 rows from the top. I know the "hood" is bad but its all apart of it. And home and home is insane, I don't wanna go there and I don't want them here, it would be so bad with security. This game is meant to stay and the latest contract has them in fair park til 2015.

contracts don't always last! buyouts :P

badger
3/16/2010, 05:08 PM
It needs to stay at a neutral site, and Jerryworld ain't neutral.

The Cotton Bowl can be sold 50-50 to each school, whereas donors like Mama were relegated to cheap seats at Jerryworld's OU-BYU game, which would likely happen for the OU-texas game too.

I am not a big-time donor, but I know that OU needs to have games that cater to big-time donors like OU-texas at the Texas State Fair to keep the money rolling in.

If they can get another venue (like Texas Motor Speedway, haha) that will give us even ticket allotment, I'd be for that. Jerryworld, however, has it's own agenda apart from the universities.

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 05:09 PM
sun bowl

oudavid1
3/16/2010, 05:22 PM
sun bowl

Moon Bowl!!! Its new

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 05:29 PM
keep it at the Cotton, but 1 random year, make it sooner, horn, sooner, horn seating. :D

yermom
3/16/2010, 05:44 PM
Jerry World blows. i can just imagine getting stuck with party pass tickets for OU/Texas

:barf:

it would still be better than having to go to Austin every other year

Collier11
3/16/2010, 05:50 PM
100,000 as opposed to 80k

yermom
3/16/2010, 05:54 PM
where as opposed to where?

ouwasp
3/16/2010, 06:09 PM
let's find out what :texan: desires and clamor for the opposite. :)

Collier11
3/16/2010, 06:24 PM
jerry world can fit over 100k is what ive heard

XingTheRubicon
3/16/2010, 06:34 PM
fair park, **** jerry world.

oudavid1
3/16/2010, 06:38 PM
jerry world can fit over 100k is what ive heard

80k actual seats, 20k people standing for 3 hours on the sides

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 06:41 PM
Cowboys-Giants game had a crowd of 105,121

not sure how many were standing.

but are yall trying to say that if there was 105,121 tickets to OU-ut, it would not fill up ?

ouleaf
3/16/2010, 06:52 PM
I think they realize the majority of fans and certainly the City of Dallas want to keep the tradition alive and play it at Fair Park. If I had to vote between a home and home and playing it at the Death Star, I would choose the Death Star.

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 06:57 PM
heh. nobody said it would be an easy vote :D

yermom
3/16/2010, 07:39 PM
Cowboys-Giants game had a crowd of 105,121

not sure how many were standing.

but are yall trying to say that if there was 105,121 tickets to OU-ut, it would not fill up ?

party passes blow. it would suck to get those tickets.

the Cotton Bowl had 96,000 last year for our game

JLEW1818
3/16/2010, 07:51 PM
what if there are naked women there

sooner ngintunr
3/16/2010, 08:13 PM
RRS @ Jerrys World???!!! You guys cant be serious.


that, and **** saxet

agoo758
3/16/2010, 08:15 PM
80k actual seats, 20k people standing for 3 hours on the sides

Another 20k people who are dumb enough to pay to go to the stadium and watch it on tv.....

VA Sooner
3/16/2010, 10:20 PM
Would love to see it at Jerry World. The Texas State fair is a dump.

unbiasedtruth
3/17/2010, 12:25 AM
after attending 2 games this past year at Jerry world all I can say if the RRSO doesnt stay at the Cotton Bowl in Fair Park, home and home. No way am I ever attending anothe game at Jerry world if I absolutely dont have to, meaning if OU isnt playing unless I have tickets in the 1st 5 rows so I dont have to put up with that worthless POS big screen... what a distraction from the game itself....

yermom
3/17/2010, 12:29 AM
Would love to see it at Jerry World. The Texas State fair is a dump.

have you been there?

in the crappy seats at the Dallas game i went to i didn't even see all of the plays. you can't see much of the field, and you have to watch on the smaller screens in the end zone

it's basically not worth being there if you actually care about the game. if you are there to tailgate inside the stadium and watch crappy TV coverage of the game, then it's fine

oudavid1
3/17/2010, 12:59 AM
Everyone who has been to Jerry World donst like it and everyone agrees home and home is bad (which it is). I know fair park isnt safe but thats also why the games at 12pm every year. Duh!

MamaMia
3/17/2010, 06:11 AM
Why not? I'd like to see how those *******s would act when they're outnumbered 10-1. Bet they wouldn't be so cocky and full of themselves then.
I take it you didn't see the spectacle they made out of themselves at the OU oSu Bedlam game in Stillwater? If they'll fly little banner planes across state lines to an in state rival game with dozens of nimrods walking around the tailgates with signs saying "35-45 on a neutral field" mounted to 10 feet of PVC pipe, there is no end to the amount of embarrassment they would bring upon themselves.

gaylordfan1
3/17/2010, 08:06 AM
Say what you will, but having TU come into our stadium would be nice.... not so nice going to their turf. So, thats why I would ask if we could just play them here every year.

Breadburner
3/17/2010, 08:20 AM
**** Texas and **** Jerry Jones.....

goingoneight
3/17/2010, 11:48 AM
If somebody in the higher ups is stupid enough to take it away from where it's at... hopefully they're not stupid enough to make it home-and-home... but stupid is as stupid does, so don't be surprised.

ouwasp
3/17/2010, 11:59 AM
well, the higher ups at OU think Bob Barry is worthy of keeping around... so who knows what will come next...

silverwheels
3/17/2010, 12:58 PM
I take it you didn't see the spectacle they made out of themselves at the OU oSu OU-OSU game in Stillwater? If they'll fly little banner planes across state lines to an in state rival game with dozens of nimrods walking around the tailgates with signs saying "35-45 on a neutral field" mounted to 10 feet of PVC pipe, there is no end to the amount of embarrassment they would bring upon themselves.

No, I try to avoid stepping foot in Stillwater whenever possible. I get nosebleeds whenever I travel back in time to the 80s.

yermom
3/17/2010, 01:20 PM
If somebody in the higher ups is stupid enough to take it away from where it's at... hopefully they're not stupid enough to make it home-and-home... but stupid is as stupid does, so don't be surprised.

i think they get a lot of extra donor money by holding season ticket holders hostage to keep their OU/Texas tickets

there is a lot to lose by OU and Texas if it goes home and home

oudavid1
3/17/2010, 01:31 PM
i think they get a lot of extra donor money by holding season ticket holders hostage to keep their OU/Texas tickets

there is a lot to lose by OU and Texas if it goes home and home

I don't want our boys in Austin and I defiantly don't want the crime rate going up here for a weekend. Book'em!

NormanPride
3/17/2010, 01:40 PM
**** Texas. **** Jerry World. That place was the worst game atmosphere ever, and I've been to Stillwater AND Manhattan. It was like the cheap materials and acoustics at Stillwater combined with the sterile and failtastic atmosphere of Manhattan. Combine that with concession prices that would make your grandmamma faint, and you've got the worst place to watch football.

That being said, I'd rather gouge my eyes out with lemon-coated razors than watch my Sooners play a game in Austin. **** that.

Collier11
3/17/2010, 01:45 PM
I didnt think the concessions were that bad, I did pay $6 for nachos but they could have fed 8 people, I snuck in pocket shots and just drank rum n coke so I saved money there :D The big screen is very distracting though

oudavid1
3/17/2010, 01:50 PM
I snuck in pocket shots and just drank rum n coke so I saved money there


Nuff Said.

yermom
3/17/2010, 01:56 PM
i don't really care about going to Austin or them coming here. i don't want what is awesome about playing at the Cotton Bowl to be gone.

Collier11
3/17/2010, 02:00 PM
i don't really care about going to Austin or them coming here. i don't want what is awesome about playing at the Cotton Bowl to be gone.

so 1st you libs want change and now youre afraid of it? :D

yermom
3/17/2010, 02:08 PM
only good change ;)

goingoneight
3/17/2010, 05:42 PM
well, the higher ups at OU think Bob Barry is worthy of keeping around... so who knows what will come next...

They aren't losing any $$$ keeping BB,Sr around. If Bob Stoops stuck around until he was 80 and his work was slipping ala Bobby Bowden, there'd be some changes... no matter how much the people like or dislike him.

w0lfe
3/18/2010, 08:35 AM
Fair park FTW

Doyen
3/18/2010, 09:05 AM
100,000 seats as opposed to 80k

Wrong.


Cotton Bowl: 92,200 seats
Jerry-world: 80,000 seats

Do your research idiot. 12,200 more people can have a seat at the Cotton Bowl.

Having a party pass and walking around the stadium waching big screens is not the same assitting in a seat.

Doyen
3/18/2010, 09:08 AM
jerry world can fit over 100k is what ive heard

do your research. only 80,000 seats. Fire Marshall will no longer let Jerry seel more than 3,000 additional "Party Passes" (no seat, look at big screens)

Doyen
3/18/2010, 09:10 AM
after attending 2 games this past year at Jerry world all I can say if the RRSO doesnt stay at the Cotton Bowl in Fair Park, home and home. No way am I ever attending anothe game at Jerry world if I absolutely dont have to, meaning if OU isnt playing unless I have tickets in the 1st 5 rows so I dont have to put up with that worthless POS big screen... what a distraction from the game itself....

^ agreed

MrJimBeam
3/18/2010, 09:40 AM
Fair Park is not dangerous, the neighborhood around the park is. Here is a tip, don't get drunk and try to walk back to your hotel.

Keep the game at the Cotton Bowl, corney dogs, wax cup beer, and October sun burns. That's OU / texas.

That being said, I vote home-n-home.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 12:16 PM
Wrong.


Cotton Bowl: 92,200 seats
Jerry-world: 80,000 seats

Do your research idiot. 12,200 more people can have a seat at the Cotton Bowl.

Having a party pass and walking around the stadium waching big screens is not the same assitting in a seat.

enjoy your time while it lasts, arrogance and stupidity often dont

Doyen
3/18/2010, 12:38 PM
enjoy your time while it lasts, arrogance and stupidity often dont
Well, when you slap-down false information... you're going to get called-out.


Posting false information and building an argument like you did in this thread usually falls inline with "stupidity". Then not looking things up as you continue your argument falls inline with "arrogance". I'm calling you out on it. Do your research, friendo.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 12:59 PM
I didnt post false info, jerry world holds over 100k people in certain settings, maybe not every single game but they can do it. I dont know what your allegiance is to the cotton bowl but if you love it that much that you are going to not only lie but be a prick as well then thats on you

Whats funny is you claim jerry world holds 80k when they averaged nearly 90k over their 8 game home schedule so maybe you should do some fact checking

Doyen
3/18/2010, 01:07 PM
I didnt post false info, jerry world holds over 100k people in certain settings, maybe not every single game but they can do it. I dont know what your allegiance is to the cotton bowl but if you love it that much that you are going to not only lie but be a prick as well then thats on you

Whats funny is you claim jerry world holds 80k when they averaged nearly 90k over their 8 game home schedule so maybe you should do some fact checking

Where have I lied? Again, I'm going to have to call you out.

I check my facts. You don't.

Again... you're not doing your research. 80,000 seats for football, that's it. The rest is standing-room only, walking around looking at big screens (it' scalled the Party Pass - cheaper ticket). You get to be "in attentance", bt you don't get a seat at all... and most of those don't even get to see the field. But hey... you can watch to big screen and buy food at the consessions.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:11 PM
go away troll

Doyen
3/18/2010, 01:18 PM
go away troll

Well, next time ...check your facts. A lot of people are falling victim to the false rhetoric that Jerry World is this huge venue that can seat 100K+

Just not true. Most seats are far too away from field to appreciate the action anyway.

I don't want the OU-TX game to move to smaller, more boring, and purely commercial venue. Keep it at the fair.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:21 PM
lolol

yermom
3/18/2010, 01:28 PM
Collier, have you been there?

i've been twice, and both times it sucked. i would have had a better viewing experience at home.

the seats up high, all you can see is the screen. you can see the field, but half your vision is the screen. and you are so far from the field, you can't make out much. with the BYU game it seemed like a very inefficient way to pack 75k people somewhere

and with the party passes, if you aren't in the very front you can't see the field at all. you are better off standing outside.

so you get 10,000 extra seats, but you also have to deal with the Dallas fans who would get seats too

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:30 PM
I was there for the BYU game, had a ticket on the 200 level and had a great view...I see your point with sitting up higher and my only point in all of this is that it is inevitable that it will move to Jerry World.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:32 PM
the key question is will the City of Dallas keep making the required improvements to keep the game there. If they do im all for that, considering how hard it has been to get those improvements in the past coupled with the fact that they have already lost the actual cotton bowl game, I dont see it staying there, right or wrong

GKeeper316
3/18/2010, 01:41 PM
without the state fair goin on in the background, the game loses its atmosphere. if it isnt gonna be at fair park, why would we want to give the state of texas all our hard earned money?

home and home so we can get some of those awesome out of state tax dollars.

GKeeper316
3/18/2010, 01:42 PM
Well, next time ...check your facts. A lot of people are falling victim to the false rhetoric that Jerry World is this huge venue that can seat 100K+

Just not true. Most seats are far too away from field to appreciate the action anyway.

I don't want the OU-TX game to move to smaller, more boring, and purely commercial venue. Keep it at the fair.

dont try to debate collier using facts.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:43 PM
well ive heard rumors that they might move it to Arlington, now those are just rumors and I dont even know if it would work in that area so who knows

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:44 PM
dont try to debate collier using facts.

Do I need to quote again that jerry world averaged nearly 90k a game for the Cowboys and had a game high of 105k. I never said anything about actual seats, I said that the stadium would hold that many people so if you want to look retarded like your buddy over there then by all means, jump on his side of the argument

GKeeper316
3/18/2010, 01:47 PM
jesus loves you

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:48 PM
typical of a troll, get facts shoved right back at ya and when you realize you are wrong you try and say something smart azzed...what a guy


...and I know

GKeeper316
3/18/2010, 01:50 PM
neg me all you want... dont give a ****. you're still as arrogant as i am

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:51 PM
im far from arrogant, I get along with pretty much everyone on this board. Doyen started calling people names when ive never even spoken to him, thats why I have no patience for him.

You, well youve always been a particular type of person on this board so I could care less about you

Doyen
3/18/2010, 01:53 PM
Do I need to quote again that jerry world averaged nearly 90k a game for the Cowboys and had a game high of 105k. I never said anything about actual seats, I said that the stadium would hold that many people so if you want to look retarded like your buddy over there then by all means, jump on his side of the argument

"stadium holding that many people" is false rhetoric. No seats for those more than 80,000.


The OU-TX game in the last two years averaged over 94,000. More than the Cowboy's averaged last year... even with all those standing-room only tickets sold by Jerry.

GKeeper316
3/18/2010, 01:55 PM
no ive always been a particular type of person in the south oval. on the football board, im die hard crimson and cream and am very rarely wrong about anything at all.

Doyen
3/18/2010, 01:55 PM
im far from arrogant, I get along with pretty much everyone on this board. Doyen started calling people names when ive never even spoken to him, thats why I have no patience for him.

You, well youve always been a particular type of person on this board so I could care less about you

^ you mean "couldn't care less" ;)

NormanPride
3/18/2010, 01:56 PM
I don't know how this is an argument. The stadium holds upwards of 100k. The first home game for the cowboys had over 105k. Why are people denying this?

Collier11
3/18/2010, 01:58 PM
I got called for posting false numbers, when I verified those numbers and reposted them it turned into a (only has that man actual seats argument) some people just hate to be wrong. The funny thing is that it isnt even a big deal, who cares

Doyen
3/18/2010, 01:58 PM
I don't know how this is an argument. The stadium holds upwards of 100k. The first home game for the cowboys had over 105k. Why are people denying this?

Because 25K didn't have seats. They were walking around the concours watching TVs, trying to get a glimse of the field. And most of them left very unhappy.

Seating capacity is 80,000.

yermom
3/18/2010, 01:59 PM
it has seated 100k+, but it's now not supposed to

and it's also not a good thing

i'm sure OU/Texas will eventually end up there, but it's going to suck

Collier11
3/18/2010, 02:01 PM
it has seated 100k+, but it's now not supposed to

and it's also not a good thing

i'm sure OU/Texas will eventually end up there, but it's going to suck

thats probably true but id still rather have it there than a home n home if those are our two choices

NormanPride
3/18/2010, 02:04 PM
Because 25K didn't have seats. They were walking around the concours watching TVs, trying to get a glimse of the field. And most of them left very unhappy.

Seating capacity is 80,000.

Who the hell cares if they had seats? Not everyone in Owen Field has a seat.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 02:09 PM
If there are 105k people in the stadium, that means there are 105k people at the game, that is not false rhetoric and if you think it is then you need to grab a dictionary

yermom
3/18/2010, 02:11 PM
Who the hell cares if they had seats? Not everyone in Owen Field has a seat.

trust me, it's not the same

Collier11
3/18/2010, 02:13 PM
when the argument is if the stadium holds a certain amount of people, it is. We arent talking about the quality of seat, we are talking about the # of people

NormanPride
3/18/2010, 02:26 PM
I know exactly how it is, I was there for the BYU game. You're essentially watching TV, but you're still in the stadium and can look at the field if you get close to the railing.

SOONERJOSHUA
3/18/2010, 04:30 PM
See il tell you i went to the BYU game and it sucked the seats were ok but, everything else sucked just keep it at the damn cotton bowl so i can keep having my fried snickers bar!

NormanPride
3/18/2010, 04:33 PM
Word. Fried Snickers fixes all.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 04:54 PM
Here it is, once again since you want to keep arguing

Seating Capacity: A capacity of 80,000 plus standing room or additional seating in the end zones, along with ticketed areas in the end zone plazas can increase total capacity to 100,000.

Since I said the stadium will hold 100k then I was not incorrect in my statement, in fact I was quite correct...get over it Doyen

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/index.html?detectflash=false

yermom
3/18/2010, 05:08 PM
but you also quoted the Cotton Bowl at 80k which isn't right either ;)

here is some of the info on the GA changes:

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/football/Party-Pass-concerns-linger--80665152.html


The Cowboys sold 30,000 Party Passes, which is twice the number allowed inside the stadium, for the game.

they may or may not be holding crowds above 100k anymore...

Collier11
3/18/2010, 05:10 PM
yes I realize that but apparently this argument is over the diff between saying people and seats, it is really a big waste of time. In fact, ive never seen someone fly off the handle over something so asinine before, big freakin deal.

Ive been to both places though YM and the cotton bowl is still a dump, I wish they would put even more money into it

JLEW1818
3/18/2010, 05:10 PM
i took a pee on the bathroom wall in jerry world :D

then Colliers girl met me in there, section 202-203


:D :D :D

Collier11
3/18/2010, 05:12 PM
heh, my friends actually did get it on in the bathroom, sick bastards :D

you probably stepped in the goo :D

JLEW1818
3/18/2010, 05:13 PM
what were the "guys" names?

Collier11
3/18/2010, 05:17 PM
Jlew and CK

JLEW1818
3/18/2010, 05:19 PM
ha, u going to spring game this year? me and step need to stay at your place

Collier11
3/18/2010, 05:21 PM
Ill probably go, last year my buddy and I decided afterwards to do a campus crawl by ourselves and ended up running up a $75 tab getting D-runk for the spring game :eek:

JLEW1818
3/18/2010, 05:22 PM
let do it

Collier11
3/18/2010, 05:23 PM
just hit me up

Doyen
3/18/2010, 07:11 PM
Here it is, once again since you want to keep arguing

Seating Capacity: A capacity of 80,000 plus standing room or additional seating in the end zones, along with ticketed areas in the end zone plazas can increase total capacity to 100,000.

Since I said the stadium will hold 100k then I was not incorrect in my statement, in fact I was quite correct...get over it Doyen

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/index.html?detectflash=false

· You said the stadium "seated" over 100,000. Wrong. "seats" 80,000. The rest is standing room only, consourse standing, or sit on the lawn/concrete outside the stadium via the concourse to watch a special large screen like they did for the Giants and Eagles game. At no point was there ever over 95K "inside" the stadium. It has been a point of contention for months on Dallas sports radio. The 100K is a marketing ploy to say that is how many people can pay to get onto the grounds ...and thus, be "in attendance".

· You said that the Cotton bowl only seated 80,000. Wrong. It seats 92,200. (although you did tell me in a PM behind the scenes that you were wrong here - I'll give you that much)

^ These are why I posted originally. If you got the facts correctto begin with... maybe your opinion of the Cotton Bowl would change. Similar to you, I would rather see a home-and-home setup than a Jerry-World rivalry. But I will fight tooth and nail to keep it at the Cotton Bowl.

Collier11 - you love to keep telling me you're one of the nicest and most respected posters on this board... but on this topic you refused to admit you were wrong and continued to neg me all afternoon. It doesn't bother me. At least I never promoted myself to be one of the nicest or most well-respected people on the board like you did to me. I posted simply to call you out and inform you that the basis of you argument was wrong.

Sorry for calling you an idiot... but it bugged me that such a Sooner fan didn't know some of the facts that he wa using to support hs argument. I'd like to think most Sooner fans would know how many people were sitting and enjoyng the OU-TX game in-person these last few years... and how many fewer there would be if the game got moved to Arlington.

silverwheels
3/18/2010, 07:21 PM
I think Doyen wins.

I Am Right
3/18/2010, 07:46 PM
Have any of you been to Jerry World, DUMP!

Collier11
3/18/2010, 07:50 PM
You said the stadium seated over 100,000. Wrong. "seats" 80,000. The rest is standing room only, consourse standing, or sit on the lawn outside the stadium via the concourse to watch a special large screen like they did for the Giants and Eagles game.

You said that the Cotton bowlonly seated 80,000. Wrong. It seats 92,200.

Collier11 - you love to keep telling me you're one of the nicest and most respected posters on this board... but cannot admit when he is wrong and negs me all afternoon. At least I never pretended to be one of the nicest or most well-respected people on the board. I posteed simply to call you out and inform you that the basis of you argument was wrong.

Sorry for calling you an idiot... but it bugged me that such a Sooner fan didn't know how many people were sitting and enjoyng the OU-TX game in-person these last few years.


and I told you I was wrong about the Cotton Bowl, im sorry that this is so important to you that you cant let it go but if it makes you feel better to keep dragging it out then go right ahead. We all know how important it is to clearly define the difference between "seats" and "holds".

And I said there is a reason you are bright red and im green, I get along with pretty much everyone on this board while it is obvious that most people dont think too highly of you, and you are the one who started negging, I dont neg people on this board unless they neg me 1st but you keep trying to spin this...goodnight

Doyen
3/18/2010, 07:59 PM
and I told you I was wrong about the Cotton Bowl, im sorry that this is so important to you that you cant let it go but if it makes you feel better to keep dragging it out then go right ahead.

And I said there is a reason you are bright red and im green, I get along with pretty much everyone on this board while it is obvious that most people dont think too highly of you...goodnight

I barely post on this site. So it doesn't take much to have red or green.

I have 14 negs.... 12 are from you. Of course I'm red now. That's fine, I find it amusing. I'm not out to gain green. You simply didn't like me calling you out. I'm not on this board pissing people off... just you I think.

I'm happy that you are green... you evidently are proud of it. You've admitted this both on the boards publicly and privately in your messages to me. Doesn't make your posts beyond reproach by the likes of me though. You are allowed to be called out. Little old red me.

SOONERJOSHUA
3/18/2010, 08:15 PM
Now cant we all just grow up D**M! something so little is why this whole country is f*****g screwed up. look jerry holds 80k and another 20k for party seats(i was in those 20k) cotton bowl (92k) i was in those seats too.... So jerry a s**t of a staduim without a doubt. keep it in dallas i love the rides and food no reason to move after such long tradition!:pop:

Collier11
3/18/2010, 09:44 PM
exactly, if you read my posts in this thread ive said several times that this is a stupid argument, be done with it, good grief.

And Doyen I really wouldnt consider what you did calling me out, I said that jerry world held 100k, I was right. I said that the cotton bowl holds 80k, I was wrong. Its not like I said some hateful racist statement and you were calling me out for being that type of person.

keep whining about neg, you were red before I negged you which by the way was in response to you negging me 1st, just like all of my other negs to you have been, but you left that part out...so, we can drop it and move on or not, your call

JLEW1818
3/18/2010, 09:46 PM
boner

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:07 PM
too late, spurt

Doyen
3/18/2010, 10:16 PM
exactly, if you read my posts in this thread ive said several times that this is a stupid argument, be done with it, good grief.

And Doyen I really wouldnt consider what you did calling me out, I said that jerry world held 100k, I was right. I said that the cotton bowl holds 80k, I was wrong. Its not like I said some hateful racist statement and you were calling me out for being that type of person.

keep whining about neg, you were red before I negged you which by the way was in response to you negging me 1st, just like all of my other negs to you have been, but you left that part out...so, we can drop it and move on or not, your call


I can't neg you... I'm red. I'm fairly certain you understand that.

By no means did I dispute that 100K+ have and can show up at Jerry World for an event... but only 80,000 had seats... and that's what you argued about with me. And you were wrong. At first, you flat-out didn't know. You really thought that Jerry World sat more football fans than the Cotton Bowl.

You laid-down some information that was wrong... I called you out on it and proved it with factual numbers. Get over it.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:22 PM
I didnt post false info, jerry world holds over 100k people in certain settings, maybe not every single game but they can do it.
Whats funny is you claim jerry world holds 80k when they averaged nearly 90k over their 8 game home schedule so maybe you should do some fact checking


Do I need to quote again that jerry world averaged nearly 90k a game for the Cowboys and had a game high of 105k. I never said anything about actual seats, I said that the stadium would hold that many people


If there are 105k people in the stadium, that means there are 105k people at the game, that is not false rhetoric and if you think it is then you need to grab a dictionary


Here it is, once again since you want to keep arguing

Seating Capacity: A capacity of 80,000 plus standing room or additional seating in the end zones, along with ticketed areas in the end zone plazas can increase total capacity to 100,000.

Since I said the stadium will hold 100k then I was not incorrect in my statement, in fact I was quite correct...get over it Doyen

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/index.html?detectflash=false


I said that jerry world held 100k, I was right. I said that the cotton bowl holds 80k, I was wrong. Its not like I said some hateful racist statement and you were calling me out for being that type of person.




I can't neg you... I'm red. I'm fairly certain you understand that.

didnt stop you from trying about 15 times

By no means did I dispute that 100K+ have and can show up at Jerry World for an event... but only 80,000 had seats... and that's what you argued about with me. And you were wrong. At first, you flat-out didn't know. You really thought that Jerry World sat more football fans than the Cotton Bowl.

You laid-down some information that was wrong... I called you out on it and proved it with factual numbers. Get over it.

So again, here are my posts on the subject...maybe now you can just drop it and get over yourself...you are making a mountain out of a mole hill which is made worse by the fact that you are wrong in your accusations.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:25 PM
100,000 as opposed to 80k


jerry world can fit over 100k is what ive heard

sorry, here are my 1st two posts regarding the matter, both saying the exact same thing...So again, Jerry world can hold up to 100kish which is correct and I was wrong about the Cotton Bowl, both things ive already stated. So, now that is cleared up...again, so just drop it

Doyen
3/18/2010, 10:41 PM
So again, here are my posts on the subject...maybe now you can just drop it and get over yourself...you are making a mountain out of a mole hill which is made worse by the fact that you are wrong in your accusations.


Get over myself? You're the one pulling rank by explaining to me how green you were and how you so respected in PM and neg comments. You're very into your postive rep.


Mountain out of a mole hill? Absolutely. But you're keeping the mountain up with me by holding your ground and adding more posts.


Good thing is... now you know the seating capacity of Jerry World is 80,000. And the seating capacity of Cotton Bowl is 92,200.

Both can go over 100,000 with standing-room only ticket sales and outside venue projection screens.

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:47 PM
Get over myself? You're the one pulling rank by explaining to me how green you were and how you so respected in PM and neg comments. You're very into your postive rep.

I hardly care about negs, that is why I never neg people unless they neg me 1st. All I said is that there is a reason you are red (and you were red before I ever negged you) and I never negged you til you negged me 1st. So, obviously you are the one who seems to care so much and you are the one who decided that the best way to approach me on the topic was to start calling names before I had ever even said a word to you, everything ive said in this thread or in negs are a direct response to you. And, if you remember correctly I tried to deal with this thru a PM initially and explained to you that the only reason I came after you was cus you started calling me names and you ignored that initially, this could have been done long ago

Mountain out of a mole hill? Absolutely. But you're keeping the mountain up with me by holding your ground and adding more posts.

well I figured that when my posts say one thing and you accuse me of something different that eventually you would get that, guess not


Good thing is... now you know the seating capacity of Jerry World is 80,000. And the seating capacity of Cotton Bowl is 92,200.

Both can go over 100,000 with standing-room only ticket sales and outside venue projection screens.

Alright, this is the last thing im saying on this topic and then im done with it, this is retarded beyong belief so if you want to keep harping on it feel free, im sure you will enjoy yourself

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:50 PM
Jlew, you goin to the OU-ut game this year?

Doyen
3/18/2010, 10:50 PM
Enjoy...

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae186/matthewayne/Capture.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae186/matthewayne/Capture2.jpg

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae186/matthewayne/Capture3.jpg

Collier11
3/18/2010, 10:53 PM
Here it is, once again since you want to keep arguing

Seating Capacity: A capacity of 80,000 plus standing room or additional seating in the end zones, along with ticketed areas in the end zone plazas can increase total capacity to 100,000.

Since I said the stadium will hold 100k then I was not incorrect in my statement, in fact I was quite correct...get over it Doyen

http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/index.html?detectflash=false

Do you not understand the difference between a stadium holding a number of people and seating a number of people, are you really this dense? Good grief...ok, now im done with this topic :D

Doyen
3/18/2010, 10:58 PM
Do you not understand the difference between a stadium holding a number of people and seating a number of people, are you really this dense? Good grief...ok, now im done with this topic :D

No.... it is you that don't understand that difference in the line of this discussion. You argued the seating capacity with me many times... public and private. You didn't know the facts until today. Now you do: standing-room only aside... Cotton Bowl is bigger by 12,200 seats.

soonerboy_odanorth
3/18/2010, 11:57 PM
Oh yeah? Well meet me behind the gym after school. Be there or be square.

And I hope the game never moves from Fair Park. It's perfection there.


"I'll kick you in the nuts, Cartman, you fat bastard!"

Collier11
3/18/2010, 11:58 PM
RESPECT MY AUTHORITYYYYY

setem
3/19/2010, 12:16 AM
I hated Jerryworld and I never ever want to go back!

MclOUvin
3/19/2010, 02:40 AM
No.... it is you that don't understand that difference in the line of this discussion. You argued the seating capacity with me many times... public and private. You didn't know the facts until today. Now you do: standing-room only aside... Cotton Bowl is bigger by 12,200 seats.

youve got reading comprehension issues fella

SOONERJOSHUA
3/19/2010, 12:03 PM
:pop: OK look am in red i dont know why can i get good comments please? or someone explain to me? thanks

Collier11
3/19/2010, 12:12 PM
explain what?

Texas_Longhorn
3/19/2010, 12:20 PM
JerryWorld is awful and I agree with Doyen about the seating issue. It is bull**** to count the people standing on the concourses as people at the live game. We might as well count people watching large screen tvs at tailgates outside the stadium. The Cotton Bowl holds 12,000+ more than that sterile place in Arlington.

ouleaf
3/19/2010, 12:28 PM
LOUD NOISES!!!!

Collier11
3/19/2010, 12:58 PM
Rubble Rubble Rubble

SOONERJOSHUA
3/19/2010, 05:22 PM
Eplain why i have red bars?

Collier11
3/19/2010, 05:26 PM
because someone negged you, click on usercp in the top left corner and you can see who negged you and for what post. IF you are green that means people have given you green spek which is good

Collier11
3/19/2010, 05:27 PM
see how that worked after I green'd ya :D

silverwheels
3/19/2010, 06:21 PM
The reputation system should have been done away with a long time ago. Way too much drama over it, when it is essentially useless.

yermom
3/19/2010, 06:35 PM
don't make me neg you

silverwheels
3/19/2010, 07:16 PM
wat

Collier11
3/19/2010, 07:34 PM
The reputation system should have been done away with a long time ago. Way too much drama over it, when it is essentially useless.

it was done away with any everyone made a big fuss...while in the scheme of things it is worthless

setem
3/19/2010, 10:13 PM
Shut up Meg!

GKeeper316
3/20/2010, 08:04 AM
id like to retract my vote of home and home.

after a little bit more thought it occured to me that a home and home would mean id have to go to austin... and there's no ****ing way in hell thats gonna happen. as bad as jerryworld is id take it over the 40 acres any day.

bonkuba
3/20/2010, 08:13 AM
I hate to say it but I would like it to be at home.....BUT......each school would figure out a way to **** the season ticket holders.....meaning not make this part of the season ticket package.

I do like tradition.....but I just wish there was a better venue....

Jerry's world is not great either as Momma said....it is for the big time donors. The BYU game is a perfect example. I went....took the RV.....after.....spent too much money and lost the farm :-)

Saying all if this......I wil follow my Sooners ANYWHERE they go.....no matter what!!

JMO.


Oh yeah......BOOMER!!!

I Am Right
3/20/2010, 08:31 AM
I hated Jerryworld and I never ever want to go back!

Man, do I agree with this post.

Collier11
3/20/2010, 01:10 PM
id like to retract my vote of home and home.

after a little bit more thought it occured to me that a home and home would mean id have to go to austin... and there's no ****ing way in hell thats gonna happen. as bad as jerryworld is id take it over the 40 acres any day.

thats what ive been saying

oudavid1
3/20/2010, 02:14 PM
Floating barge on Lake Texoma

Lets go back to this guy, he may have something.

soonerloyal
3/20/2010, 05:47 PM
BILL


Amount Owed: Five minutes of my life back after reading this thread.
Due Date: Immediately upon receipt

TYVMIA.
:D

Thousands Strong
3/20/2010, 10:56 PM
a provoking "what if", but luckily a JerryWorld or home/home choice will never come to pass.

HillbillyRay
3/21/2010, 09:00 AM
no way jerry lets the opportunity to hoast the RRS slip away, hopefully it stays at the cotton bowl :-)

texas bandman
3/21/2010, 08:46 PM
Home and Home, I think that Norman is a much harder place to play than Austin.

josh09
3/23/2010, 01:34 AM
I dont care where we move it, but it cant ever be home and home. That would ruin the tradition and no longer make it unique.

Leroy Lizard
3/23/2010, 03:33 AM
Tradition? What place is there for tradition in college football?

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 09:56 AM
id like to retract my vote of home and home.

after a little bit more thought it occured to me that a home and home would mean id have to go to austin... and there's no ****ing way in hell thats gonna happen. as bad as jerryworld is id take it over the 40 acres any day.

Yeah boy.. that Austin is HORRIBLE !! :rolleyes:

Besides the lakes, and rolling hills, very good restaurants, 6th Street for the kids.. 4th Street for the adults.. art galleries, museums,... thousands of beautiful women... there's not a damned thing to do there. :rolleyes:

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 10:25 AM
Yeah boy.. that Austin is HORRIBLE !! :rolleyes:

Besides the lakes, and rolling hills, very good restaurants, 6th Street for the kids.. 4th Street for the adults.. art galleries, museums,... thousands of beautiful women... there's not a damned thing to do there. :rolleyes:

besides get hit on by a bunch of fagtastic homeowners like yourself...

texass..it's like A-hole nother kuntry.

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 10:46 AM
besides get hit on by a bunch of fagtastic homeowners like yourself...

texass..it's like A-hole nother kuntry.

Your insecurity and homophobia are so endearing.

Got issues much Skippy?

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 10:51 AM
Your insecurity and homophobia are so endearing.

Got issues much Skippy?

just when we get bowtie clad pissants post defense arguments for a tard infested city.

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 11:10 AM
yip thanks for stopping by.

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 02:03 PM
just when we get bowtie clad pissants post defense arguments for a tard infested city.

I will type this very slowly with the hope that you may understand it .

The last time we mixed it up, naturally I got the better of you, we were both banned for a day, and instead of taking it like a man, you went on a profanity laced diatribe directed toward a moderator and like a petulant child, you sat in a corner and whined that you would never come back.

Stay in the shallow end... like the gene pool from whence you came.

Collier11
3/24/2010, 02:08 PM
Your insecurity and homophobia are so endearing.

Got issues much Skippy?

austin is ghey :D

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 02:12 PM
I will type this very slowly with the hope that you may understand it .


and as i recall, this was the exact same thing you posted last time we mixed it up...*yawn* try to buy a new joke book. it gets old beating your asss like a young pup in front of all these people

The last time we mixed it up, naturally I got the better of you, we were both banned for a day, and instead of taking it like a man, you went on a profanity laced diatribe directed toward a moderator and like a petulant child, you sat in a corner and whined that you would never come back.

of course, until i found out they banned your arrogant, self serving azz as well

Stay in the shallow end... like the gene pool from whence you came.


*snort* hahaha again with the jokes...gene pool...shallow end... i get it.

bottom line, this is my board. you come in here talking smack, you get paddled. i don't care how many times i get banned or neg speked. as long as you are here talking dooshery about your schlonghorns, i will be here telling the world you like to stand in front of the mirror with nothing but a orange flavored tie with your pecker tucked under showing off your man toe.

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 02:44 PM
*snort* hahaha again with the jokes...gene pool...shallow end... i get it.

bottom line, this is my board. you come in here talking smack, you get paddled. i don't care how many times i get banned or neg speked. as long as you are here talking dooshery about your schlonghorns, i will be here telling the world you like to stand in front of the mirror with nothing but a orange flavored tie with your pecker tucked under showing off your man toe.

Wow.. you really do have issues! I pity you even more now if that is even possible.

It's your board? I was not aware that you had paid for the initial rights and obtained the requisite copyright protections on it. Bet Phil would be interested in that Sparky.

And you will go on, continuing to bray your nocturne of despair and overcompensation... seeking relevance and acceptance with the same effectiveness as a rational voice in the Obama Administration.

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 02:57 PM
Wow.. you really do have issues! I pity you even more now if that is even possible.

It's your board? I was not aware that you had paid for the initial rights and obtained the requisite copyright protections on it. Bet Phil would be interested in that Sparky.

And you will go on, continuing to bray your nocturne of despair and overcompensation... seeking relevance and acceptance with the same effectiveness as a rational voice in the Obama Administration.



^^^ this?!?!? you literally spent 37 minutes typing this response? i guess dictionary.com wasn't cooperating too well with you today?


yeh i consider this my board as in this is where i hang out on a daily basis...as opposed to yours as in everything orange...oranges, department of corrections, hunting vests, picking up trash on the side of the road whatever have ya...

you are an outsider and i consider you an intruder from your lifestyle, to your choice in teams, to the state you live in.

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 04:07 PM
^^^ this?!?!? you literally spent 37 minutes typing this response? i guess dictionary.com wasn't cooperating too well with you today?


yeh i consider this my board as in this is where i hang out on a daily basis...as opposed to yours as in everything orange...oranges, department of corrections, hunting vests, picking up trash on the side of the road whatever have ya...

you are an outsider and i consider you an intruder from your lifestyle, to your choice in teams, to the state you live in.

Wrong again Skippy... so grievously, tragically, hopelessly wrong.

Sometimes people type.. and while they are typing, they get a telephone call. They take said telephone call and eventually, come back to the post. It's called.. multi-tasking.

As for this being "your board,".. it is not. You do not own the rights. From a pedantic point of view, I can see where you consider it "yours." The reality is much different.

As in my lifestyle.. you mean... being a well dressed, educated, financially solvent professional with a beautiful wife and kids being educated in some of the best private schools? You mean, .. that lifestyle?

As for "teams," I support a UNIVERSITY.. financially now, but in the past, by obtaining my degree. Unlike your glorified high school, the University of Texas is so much more than a football team.

As for the State of Texas, one cannot change your parochial views.. whether it's based on envy or just the realization that the State of Texas is one of the most diverse, fiscally sound states that encompasses so much more than just the University of Texas... your sad opinions and points of view that are not fact based at best... and infantile at worst will remain.. uniquely. yours.

Collier11
3/24/2010, 04:12 PM
talk all the crap you want LID but ive got to call you on one thing, I hear over and over again the crap talk about OU as an academic institution and it is flat out wrong, true we arent ranked as high as ut but you cant deny the improvements made since Boren took over, last time I looked (a few yrs ago) we were right on the cusp of the TOP 100 which in college talk is a big deal so you might check yourself on that one

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 04:14 PM
talk all the crap you want LID but ive got to call you on one thing, I hear over and over again the crap talk about OU as an academic institution and it is flat out wrong, true we arent ranked as high as ut but you cant deny the improvements made since Boren took over, last time I looked (a few yrs ago) we were right on the cusp of the TOP 100 which in college talk is a big deal so you might check yourself on that one

There certainly is no denying that academic standards have improved under Boren... and I have been up against a number of very good attorneys from Ou's law school.

At the end of the day, your degree is what you make it.

Collier11
3/24/2010, 04:24 PM
eggzackery

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 04:29 PM
Wrong again Skippy... so grievously, tragically, hopelessly wrong.

Sometimes people type.. and while they are typing, they get a telephone call. They take said telephone call and eventually, come back to the post. It's called.. multi-tasking.

well aware. as are most people thanks for pointing out the obvious

As for this being "your board,".. it is not. You do not own the rights. From a pedantic point of view, I can see where you consider it "yours." The reality is much different.

the reality MAY be different but when it comes to you and i....its mine, not yours. go find your own board to put a tramp stamp on

As in my lifestyle.. you mean... being a well dressed, educated, financially solvent professional with a beautiful wife and kids being educated in some of the best private schools? You mean, .. that lifestyle?

you call it well dressed, i call it "fabulous" as in, very metrosechsual. beautiful wife? whats his name? you have kids? christ on a stick...im suprised anyone would have you. again, in my mind, questioning whether or not your wife is legally blind.

As for "teams," I support a UNIVERSITY.. financially now, but in the past, by obtaining my degree. Unlike your glorified high school, the University of Texas is so much more than a football team.

good on ya...and you couldn't find anything else to do but law? hell, its the internet, you can pretend all you want and noone would know any different. me? i don't pretend to be anyone other than who i am. i know what im not, a pompous, self-absorbed, loquacious peckerneck who thinks its his job to spread his thoughts and feelings about someone elses school on thier fans website. got it yet? by the way, got two degrees and fixin ta have anuther. i don't sit around talking shiite about how much smarter i am than everyone else *ahem* leroy and lid

As for the State of Texas, one cannot change your parochial views.. whether it's based on envy or just the realization that the State of Texas is one of the most diverse, fiscally sound states that encompasses so much more than just the University of Texas... your sad opinions and points of view that are not fact based at best... and infantile at worst will remain.. uniquely. yours.

you call it parochial views, i call it experience. all i know is every time someone claims to be from the state of texas, first i think, "perfect another one of those buttfuggers escaped and is fixin to infect the rest of the nation" then i want to choke them...

TexasLidig8r
3/24/2010, 04:34 PM
you call it parochial views, i call it experience. all i know is every time someone claims to be from the state of texas, first i think, "perfect another one of those buttfuggers escaped and is fixin to infect the rest of the nation" then i want to choke them...


You do have the market cornered on inferiority complexes.

Congratulations.

As for expressing myself, either in writing or through word of mouth, it's the same.

Now.. here's $5.. go park my car in a place close to the front.

Collier11
3/24/2010, 04:41 PM
You do have the market cornered on inferiority complexes.

Congratulations.

As for expressing myself, either in writing or through word of mouth, it's the same.

Now.. here's $5.. go park my car in a place close to the front.

its the bright yellow miata with the tag that says butlvr :D

C&CDean
3/24/2010, 05:06 PM
This thread is full of more faggery and stupidity than I've seen in one thread in a long, long time. Nice job cretins.

silverwheels
3/24/2010, 06:26 PM
This thread is full of more faggery and stupidity than I've seen in one thread in a long, long time. Nice job cretins.

I was going to say something to this effect, but Dean always says it best.

Jello Biafra
3/24/2010, 06:29 PM
Now.. here's $5.. go park my car in a place close to the front.

word....make sure you take your wife with you or when you get back, she'll be showing the bottom of her feet to the ceiling of your car...

JLEW1818
3/24/2010, 06:52 PM
yah who the f made this thread? jackass

Collier11
3/24/2010, 06:55 PM
we shoulda known how it was gonna turn out

redhawk49
3/24/2010, 08:09 PM
could you imagine going to Austin for a game....

has anyone alive ever been to the horns stadium to see OU-ut?
1922
heh.
Bill Snyder???

TexasLidig8r
3/25/2010, 10:22 AM
This thread is full of more faggery and stupidity than I've seen in one thread in a long, long time. Nice job cretins.


OFF SEASON ! :D