G. Gilbert .... I don't get it.... is * smoking something?

[Tigeman]

I don't get it.... did I watch a different game than the * fans did?

Rather it was the NCG or not, the kid was 15/40 ... that means he only completed 37% of his passes. Thats pretty pathetic. Even Landry was at least 50% against BYU, and * fans ran around saying Landry sucked after that game. I agree that he wasn't overly impressive that game, or this season. I'll admit there is stuff to look forward too, but you don't see us running around saying he's gonna be better than Bradford. Fast Forward to after the mNCG, and * fans abound like to claim Gilbert is gonna be the best QB to ever attend their school.

I've watched them talk about his second half.... he was still only 46% and most of those were super short passes that a 12 y/o could complete. I watched the second half.... the kid sucked... PERIOD!!!! I realize he was thrown into a game he wasn't ready for, but even his skill set didn't look that great to me. TBO though, I find this excuse ridiculous. If your a collegiate athlete and you get your chance to play, you don't get scared, you get pumped and see it as your chance to shine! I'm sure he'll be a decent QB one day, but I don't see him ever reaching the level of a Pony boy or Bradford.

Thoughts?

[oudavid1]

I think Garret was a scared puppy, but he will be really good eventually. But Landry is just chop full of potential and i cant wait to see him against Utah State. But there both gonna be better than John Brantley. F### John Brantley

[Collier11]

He was scared sh*tless, it is obvious he has big time talent. Its just a matter of how long it takes him to develop. He will likely have some really good games and some really bad games next yr

[bluedogok]

At Lake Travis HS he was tremendous. Being thrown into a game as a freshman QB due to injury is hard enough, to do it in the NCG adds a whole different level.

It is hard to base how good a QB is going to be off that type of situation, Aikman looked like a complete bust when he had to start against Kansas when Danny Bradley was injured...he turned out to have a pretty good career. Jamelle didn't exactly look great coming in for Aikman against Miami. Time will tell all.

[Tigeman]

I'm not saying there isn't alot of upside, or that it's possible he wasn't a bit scared. But even late in the game, watching his decision making and skillsets, I just wasn't that impressed. Now Barkley out at SUC, you can just tell that kid has it from game 1, and supposedly these 2 could have been flip flopped in position ranking during recruiting. Gilbert has ALOTTTTTTT of work to get done.

I wouldn't have said this before the NCG, but I truly think Landry might possibly have alot more upside than Gilbert. Guess we'll see though.

[Leroy Lizard]

Let's not treat Gilbert like the Horns treated Bradford. Gilbert is not going to suck.

[Jacie]

TBO = ???

[oudavid1]

Andrew Luck looks like a dam J*W

[badger]

Let's not bash the whorns too much (although when is it TOO much?)

Gilbert was playing against a very good Bammer team for the national title at the Rose Bowl.

Landry was playing against an okay BYU team for a regular season, non-conference game at Jerryworld.

[Sabanball]

I think a lot of horn fans are simply in denial about the BCSCG and are hung up on the hypothetical outcome if their golden boy had not got hurt--they seem to forget that injuries and how you deal with them are part of the game of football. We lost our second best player on D, Donta Hightower, against Arkie for the season--we didn't whine, we made adjustments and did the best we could without him.

Heck, one deranged Texas fan even bought up several billboards in the Tuscaloosa area back in jan/feb that said, "Don't Mess with Texas". Huh?:rolleyes:

[Sabanball]

Let's not bash the whorns too much (although when is it TOO much?)

Gilbert was playing against a very good Bammer team for the national title at the Rose Bowl.
Landry was playing against an okay BYU team for a regular season, non-conference game at Jerryworld.

Umm...you mean that you guys give us credit for that national championship?;)

[Tulsa_Fireman]

We sure do.

We're still iffy on the other five hundred and ninety eight, though.

[Boomer38Sooner]

F*** TEXAS and F*** GARRET GILBERT

[Sabanball]

We sure do.

We're still iffy on the other five hundred and ninety eight, though.

I do declare...we need an asterisk next to this one just showing that we have the Sooner Nation's stamp of approval.;)

[yankee]

if you think the national championship game is any indication of how good garrett gilbert is going to be, then you've got another thing coming. i honestly hope we don't have to see him in the RRS for the next 3 years...i'm hoping he leaves early for the NFL and we only see him the next 2.

[ashley]

if you think the national championship game is any indication of how good garrett gilbert is going to be, then you've got another thing coming. i honestly hope we don't have to see him in the RRS for the next 3 years...i'm hoping he leaves early for the NFL and we only see him the next 2.

I am afraid he is going to be good.

[BoulderSooner79]

The title game was no reflection on Gilbert - that was an impossible situation.

Experience-wise, Gilbert will be the equivalent of a RS FR this year similar to the way Jones came in last season. But he'll have a big advantage over the situation Landry had; he will practice as the expected starter spring and fall instead of the expected backup behind a Heisman contender.

[oumartin]

Gilbert will be dang good. You could see glimpses of it in the BCS game.

[josh09]

Heres the deal, I agree with about half of what you are saying. But this kid is a true freshman, who basically started in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME for his first game! That's gonna scare any 18 year old kid (from what I hear he's STILL 18. Very young). Anyways, I have also heard the rumors about texass fans saying he'll be "better than McCoy". I think this kid is gonna be good, but not that good. IMO, he looks more like a Chris Simms "good". Which, of course, would be stupendous for us :D

[josh09]

Oh, and another huge point of mine. Yes, texass fans point out that he had a decent 2nd half. But if you go back and watch the game, who was it that he was looking at or passing to about 75% of the time, maybe more? Jordan Shipley. And Shipley is good enough to make any QB look good, even an 18 year old freshman. He better learn to not choose favorite receivers, or good defenses (like ours :D) will destroy him.

[Soonerman08]

Let's not bash the whorns too much (although when is it TOO much?)

Gilbert was playing against a very good Bammer team for the national title at the Rose Bowl.

Landry was playing against an okay BYU team for a regular season, non-conference game at Jerryworld.

Big difference here. Landry didn't have an O-Line and didn't have Gresham. Take Shipley out of the equation and Gilbert sucks even more.

[King Barry's Back]

Look, if you take a true freshman, who hasn't played, and tell him "You are going to start your first game in the NCS. We are going to take the next four weeks and get you ready to go. But it's up to you to lead the team," and that kid goes out and ALMOST wins the game -- then that boy is a gamer. End of story.

You take the same situation -- and it happens DURING THE NCS GAME -- and the QB is told "we'll take the next FOUR MINUTES to get you ready," and the kid STILL almost wins the game, then I think those of us watching on TV can STFU that he didn't actually win.

Said boy is good enough to get my respect, and my attention.

Could this thread by motivated by wishful thinking that Gilbert won't be good?

[Jacie]

Heck, one deranged Texas fan even bought up several billboards in the Tuscaloosa area back in jan/feb that said, "Don't Mess with Texas". Huh?:rolleyes:

sa*et fans = crybabies

[SoonerDood]

Texas should be more concerned that Colt McCoy was a better QB Coach in that game than whoever it is they're paying.

[gaylordfan1]

Which will be his soon to be job....

[...sooner]

gilbert grape is gonna be good. colt mccoy good.. no way

[badger]

I do declare...we need an asterisk next to this one just showing that we have the Sooner Nation's stamp of approval.;)

:D

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

i didn't watch the whole game, but from what i saw, outside of shipley, the horn receivers couldn't catch. he was probably 15/40 with 11 or 12 drops.

and that was also part of the problem this year with landry. we've never been what i'd call a bastion of WR talent, but we typically have one college superstar and several solid guys around him.

[oudavid1]

I just think he is very talented, as well as Landry

[KantoSooner]

He'll be just fine. Coming in as he did, 99% of the rest of the world would have collapsed into a little ball. That he didn't indicates that he's a gamer. That said, I am happy beyond words that Colt and Shipley are gone.

[TXBOOMER]

Seriously boys...playing the Bama D in the NC game may have been a little tough. I think he is one of the most talented young QB's in the country. Hopefully he won't get to good to quick.

[Soonez]

Why is it getting to the point that if you say Texas Sucks you get shouted down on this board? Texas does indeed suck. There, I said it. And GG looked terrible in that game. I agree it is hard to judge and that one game doesn't mean he'll end up sucking forever, but there is no crime in saying he looked terrible. Because he did look overwhelmed. Too many UT suck asses on here. I hate 'em. Bad. F**& Texas. Anyone agree???????

[NormanPride]

He had 10x the amount of time in the pocket than Landry, and he had one person that could at least catch. Our gameplan on offense in that BYU game was completely shot because Gresh was out as well. So at least they still had mostly the same gameplan.

Still, the kid stepped up and played about as well as you could ask him to. He'll be fine. Bama also played like utter trash that game.

[goingoneight]

This thread reeks of "Sam Bradford seems like he sucks" on hornfans circa August 2007.

[Soonez]

And btw, I also think that Colt McCoy was overrated too. He threw 30 5 yard passes a game. Shipley on the other hand was a beast and does indeed have my respect.

[Soonez]

I'm not saying GG will suck. Who knows for sure? He might be Chrissy Sims or he might win a Heisman. But he sure as hell didn't look good in that game.

[NormanPride]

This thread reeks of "Sam Bradford seems like he sucks" on hornfans circa August 2007.

Whereas Sam did nothing but look awesome at all times, Gilbert had a bad game. We at least have SOME footing to stand on. :D

And no, I don't think Gilbert will suck. I think he'll struggle with no run game and no Shipley, but they'll be fine.

[Dio]

Heck, one deranged Texas fan even bought up several billboards in the Tuscaloosa area back in jan/feb that said, "Don't Mess with Texas". Huh?:rolleyes:

Billboards? Did they run out of banner-pulling airplanes?

[Soonez]

Billboards? Did they run out of banner-pulling airplanes?

HA! Now that's funny!

[jumperstop]

Oh, and another huge point of mine. Yes, texass fans point out that he had a decent 2nd half. But if you go back and watch the game, who was it that he was looking at or passing to about 75% of the time, maybe more? Jordan Shipley. And Shipley is good enough to make any QB look good, even an 18 year old freshman. He better learn to not choose favorite receivers, or good defenses (like ours :D) will destroy him.

You beat me to it...He looked 'good' for the same reasons Colt looked good. Because of Shipley. Almost every single good pass he had in that game was Shipley. Not saying the kid doesn't have some potential, but they just wanted to talk about how much they got to look forward to because Colt getting knocked out was the game for them. I would say overall he did well considering the circumstances.

[goingoneight]

Some people want this kid to bring Texas a 6-6 season so bad, they don't see the truth.

[TexasLidig8r]

Some people want this kid to bring Texas a 6-6 season so bad, they don't see the truth.

Or... at least 7 -5 and have us go to..

now...

which bowl game did you go to this past year?...

and...

was it even televised?

[NormanPride]

If you guys have all the injuries we did, you'll end up in the same boat. Except your schedule is **** easy.

[badger]

Texas just better hope they don't have another Chance Mock or Chrissy Simms on their hands. It's not like all of their QB's have been stellar, Heisman finalists like Vince and Colt.

[EnragedOUfan]

To me, Garret Gilbert is nothing spectacular. Sure, he's a freshmen who got thrown into the biggest game of the season, but I wasn't impressed. The one thing that stood out to me was how immobile he was. I can see OU winning the next two, possibly three RRS's. Like someone in some other thread stated a while ago, Texas is lethal when the have a QB who can scramble. Otherwise, they're average. And Garret Gilbert is no scrambler nor does Texas have any type of running game so I think the future is bright for us. Shipley made Gilbert look good in my opinion.......BOOMER!

[TXBOOMER]

texass sucks green donkey dix!

[yankee]

And btw, I also think that Colt McCoy was overrated too. He threw 30 5 yard passes a game. Shipley on the other hand was a beast and does indeed have my respect.

if "overrated" is winning 3 of the 4 RRS against us, then i can only imagine what "underrated" is. seriously, some of you crack me up. sure GG sucked it up in the nat'l championship's first half. there's no denying that and there's no need to talk about it any more. if we made the nat'l championship in the '09 season and sam went down in that game and landry had to step up and put up numbers like GG's...everyone on here would be proclaiming what a great performance that was considering the circumstances blah blah blah. just because colt and shipley are gone does NOT automatically mean we're going to have it easy the next few years. in case everyone's forgot, texass pulls in top notch recruiting classes like nobody's business and they still have tons of talent (hard to believe, i know). plus, the RRS is a rivalry game. anything can happen.







oh, and texas sucks. :D

[East Coast Bias]

I hate Texas like everyone else, but if you guys think Gilbert sucks, you are kidding yourself. I personally hope he does well, it will mean more when we beat him. The defense we put on the field will ruin his day.....

[Herr Scholz]

Gilbert wasn't great in the title game but we also didn't have a running game to fall back on to help him out. Our offense will look different next year with more two back sets/H back looks to help with the run (and hopefully a reintroduction of the TE position which has been completely lacking for 2 straight years). We'll see how that plays out. Kid has an enormous arm though. He's the all time state of Texas passing leader and led his team to 2 state titles. Definitely a pro style passer which will be different.

Keep in mind that Greg Davis knows how to craft an offense around the talent at hand. It wasn't always the VY/Colt running QB offense. We also had successful offenses relying on RBs (Williams, Benson, Charles, etc.).

[pweitkem]

The fans in Austin have been all over this Gilbert kid's nutsack since his sophomore year in Lakeway. He's the prodigal son... they'll change their story next year when they see an inexperienced kid make a few errors.

[TMcGee86]

I think GG will easily be as good as Colt McCoy. Probably better.


However there is no way he will ever be as good as Major Applewhite. To say so is just foolish.

[Jacie]

Evaluations of Gilby based on the MNC are premature being extrapolations from a limited data set. But we do know that in that game, if he had not had Ponyboy's roommate to throw to, his completion percentage would have been much worse.

Gilby's upside potential is huge. Whether or not he has a stellar career depends on the whorn coaches putting together an O-line that can block for him, a running game so Greg Davis won't have to run a version of Mike Leach's offense, finding someone who can actually catch a ball now that Shipley is gone, have someone step up to play tight end and a short yardage specialist so that Gilby doesn't have to sneak everytime they face a 4th & 1.

What has Sooner fans thinking things have tilted back to OUr side of the table is that all five of the aforementioned fixes have been issues since Colt was a freshman and the sa*et coaches have not solved any of them in that time. McCoy was the offense. Do even the most die-hard whorn fans believe Gilby can step in and run that with the same lack of support Ponyboy had to deal with most of his career?

[Herr Scholz]

What has Sooner fans thinking things have tilted back to OUr side of the table is that all five of the aforementioned fixes have been issues since Colt was a freshman and the sa*et coaches have not solved any of them in that time.
So let me get this straight. You listed as liabilities we've had for the past 4 years as: no running game (Jamaal Charles might beg to differ), no OL blocking (Studdard, Sendlein and Blalock might argue), no TE (got me there) and no WRs except Shipley (who was hurt the first 2 years of Colt's run btw - Quan Cosby was also pretty good - Limas Sweed). And we haven't fixed any of them?

How did Colt win 45 games then? That's the most ever btw.

[SoonerDood]

So let me get this straight. You listed as liabilities we've had for the past 4 years as: no running game (Jamaal Charles might beg to differ), no OL blocking (Studdard, Sendlein and Blalock might argue), no TE (got me there) and no WRs except Shipley (who was hurt the first 2 years of Colt's run btw - Quan Cosby was also pretty good - Limas Sweed). And we haven't fixed any of them?

How did Colt win 45 games then? That's the most ever btw.

I remember Shipley catching TDs against us in 06-07-08.

[Tigeman]

The last two years, you guys absolutely had no run game. Even your fans admit it. Actually, between 05' and now you only had 2 years w/ one. 05' was only b/c of VY and 07' you finally had Charles live up to his talent. In addition to your lack of a RB the last 2 years, you also had no run blocking the last 2 years. That being said, neither did we last year and we saw what that did to our talented RB's. So alot of it falls back to the OL b/c we all know * always has some kind of talent, rather we want to admit it or not.

As for Jamaal Charles, the guy had one outstanding year (his last before he chose to abandon you guys and choose a 3rd rd pick). Heck he only broke 1K once!!!! So lets not pretend he was an AD, Barry Sanders, or a Reggie Bush.

[yankee]

So lets not pretend he was an AD, Barry Sanders, or a Reggie Bush.

no one compared him to those 3.

[Soonez]

About half of you on here would make good French citizens. I'm not saying we'll beat Texas the next 3 years. I'm saying I don't think Colt was anything special and GG looked down right pitiful. If you could pull yourselves off the longhorn *&^% for a second maybe you could see straight. You act like having pride in your team is terrible. BOOOOOOOOOOMER!

[yankee]

About half of you on here would make good French citizens. I'm not saying we'll beat Texas the next 3 years. I'm saying I don't think Colt was anything special and GG looked down right pitiful. If you could pull yourselves off the longhorn *&^% for a second maybe you could see straight. You act like having pride in your team is terrible. BOOOOOOOOOOMER!

making irrational comments about texass has nothing to do with having pride in your team. if you could pull off the crimson-colored glasses for a split second, maybe you could see that. i don't see how you can justify in any way that colt is overrated, considering all he accomplished in his career and against us. as for GG looking terrible, he did. no one is arguing that here. not sure what the point of arguing about that is.

[BoulderSooner79]

About half of you on here would make good French citizens. I'm not saying we'll beat Texas the next 3 years. I'm saying I don't think Colt was anything special and GG looked down right pitiful. If you could pull yourselves off the longhorn *&^% for a second maybe you could see straight. You act like having pride in your team is terrible. BOOOOOOOOOOMER!

If only chest thumping could win football games...

[Tigeman]

no one compared him to those 3.

No, but this statement
Jamaal Charles might beg to differ makes it sound like he was a top tier RB, and the fact of the matter is, he wasn't!

[yankee]

No, but this statement makes it sound like he was a top tier RB, and the fact of the matter is, he wasn't!

i believe his point was to say that texass had a running game that year, regardless of whether charles lived up to his expectations.

[Jacie]

Scholz, my post was unclear, my mistake.

The problems listed did not occur all in the same season. When Colt came in he had the benefit of a veteran receiver corp but by his senior year, he had one true go-to guy and a bunch of others who hurt rather than helped his completion percentage. Same thing with the running game. It deteriorated to the point that the QB was your leading rusher two years ago. The running-back-by-committee approach implemented for 2009 was a patch on the problem that failed to show up in the championship game. As for the TE and short yardage back, well . . . the best, some would say first, TE since Bo Scaife just transferred and everyone knows that lack of a short yardage RB led to back-to-back losses to aggie. None of this is meant to imply that Mack does not recruit great athletes at every position. But it seems that getting them on the field all at once and performing at the level their potential would otherwise indicate has been problematic for the UT coaching staff. It has been your good fortune to have had two great QB's, each with their own style of play, surrounded by highly touted athletes who have been hit-or-miss at different times.

The whole point is, your vaunted offensive coordinator once more let one player dictate the direction the offense would take to the detriment of every other position. The results were spectacular from a W-L perspective except for those occassions when he was injured.

The discussion about Greg Davis' abilities used to take up a lot of wordage on UT fan forums until Vince Young showed up and made him look like a genius. Colt helped keep him looking good. Can Gilby continue this streak? That is what this whole discussion is about and why Sooners think maybe it is finally going to catch up with your guys on the offensive side of the ball.

[MrJimBeam]

I'm saying I don't think Colt was anything special

Yeah, me neither. I'm surprised he won 85% of his games. :rolleyes:

[Tigeman]

I want to bump this thread, just for a big "I told you so" to *

Hey Scholz, Lid, where are you guys at to accept it? ;):rolleyes::D

[Leroy Lizard]

This is one to cherish, courtesy of Lid:


Or... at least 7 -5 and have us go to..

now...

which bowl game did you go to this past year?...

and...

was it even televised?

[85sooners]

:pop:

[Tigeman]

LOL, I saw that too Leroy! I've been waiting till the bowl selections were over to make a thread about this time last year * was laughing about our Bowl. What bowl are they in this year again?

[47straight]

Or... at least 7 -5 and have us go to..

now...

which bowl game did you go to this past year?...

and...

was it even televised?

:texan:

[NormanPride]

If you guys have all the injuries we did, you'll end up in the same boat. Except your schedule is **** easy.

****, I was wrong as hell.

Texas didn't have any injuries to speak of and wound up MUCH worse than us.

At least I was right about their schedule being **** easy.

[47straight]

Big difference here. Landry didn't have an O-Line and didn't have Gresham. Take Shipley out of the equation and Gilbert sucks even more.


SPIT THA TRUFF!

[Jacie]

After sa*et's 5-7 season my 3/9 post makes it look like I know what I was talking about.

[btb916]

Nice :D

[BigJerm7]

allsome post.

[usaosooner]

epic bump is epic

[SunnySooner]

....can't...stop...laughing...must...breathe....

All that AND the whorn in my neighborhood took down his flag. No more burnt orange first thing every morning. Christmas came early!!!!

[bikerdood]

...Sahweeeeeeet!!!.whorns???...Oh yeah!...Upstart aggies???...Next year???...gotcha...

[Partial Qualifier]

Keep in mind that Greg Davis knows how to craft an offense around the talent at hand.

On so many levels:


















BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!! :D

[Tigeman]

Scholz was sooooo confident Mr. Davis could get a running game going. Want a good laugh about that, go visit the Malcolm Brown recruiting thread.

[Tigeman]

epic bump is epic


Thank you, Thank you!!!!

http://michelleeuperio.theworldrace.org/blogphotos/theworldrace/michelleeuperio/ltr_bowing_respectfully_bw.jpg

[soonercastor]

SO much WIN in this thread

[Sooner_Tuf]

SO much WIND in this thread

FIFY

[VA Sooner]

I enjoyed reading history.

A lot of Whorn fans eating crow....

[silverwheels]

Nice.

[Joe]

Why do we allow those fag whorns on our board when they're not even around to take the lumps for a 5-7 season? When/If they're back to a 10 win season next year they'll be back on here talking **** on the team/posters with not a worry in the world of being banned.

[MeMyself&Me]

Why do we allow those fag whorns on our board when they're not even around to take the lumps for a 5-7 season? When/If they're back to a 10 win season next year they'll be back on here talking **** on the team/posters with not a worry in the world of being banned.

I kinda agree. They've spent so much time on here the last few years, even in the offseason that to be so absent now is a bit weak.

[Soonerwake]

**Gomer Pyle** Surprise, surprise, surprise **Gomer Pyle**

[Tigeman]

Why do we allow those fag whorns on our board when they're not even around to take the lumps for a 5-7 season? When/If they're back to a 10 win season next year they'll be back on here talking **** on the team/posters with not a worry in the world of being banned.

Kind of agree! I mean USAO and a few others gutted it out last year over on the Shag, and took their beatings. But Oh well.... look at it this way...if/when they do come back, you can just rag them even harder for showing their Vaj's!

[TMcGee86]

Keep in mind that Greg Davis knows how to craft an offense around the talent at hand. It wasn't always the VY/Colt running QB offense.

yeah, um... about that...

[47straight]

How did Colt win 45 games then? That's the most ever btw.

By a recruiting vacuum created by noone wanting to come and play behind Vince. By the vacuum created by Vince leaving early. By the recuiting vacuum created by noone being good enough to come in behind Colt and usurp him. By him being good enough to be the best thing in that vacuum but not good enough to leave early. By Texas stockpiling 5* talent around him that was good enough to win 10 games but having the coaching to win it all. By having good fortune not to get hurt enough to miss any games. And perhaps most significantly, by playing a big pansy non-conf schedule to guarantee 3/4 wins per year.

That's how.

[2121Sooner]

By a recruiting vacuum created by noone wanting to come and play behind Vince. By the vacuum created by Vince leaving early. By the recuiting vacuum created by noone being good enough to come in behind Colt and usurp him. By him being good enough to be the best thing in that vacuum but not good enough to leave early. By Texas stockpiling 5* talent around him that was good enough to win 10 games but having the coaching to win it all. By having good fortune not to get hurt enough to miss any games. And perhaps most significantly, by playing a big pansy non-conf schedule to guarantee 3/4 wins per year.

That's how.


And by maybe, and I am just taking a wild shot in the dark here........but maybe he was actually a pretty good college quarterback. I hate Texas as much as the next guy, but he was good. He had a LOT of talent around, and he won games. Give em credit if he is due it. And I think he is.

[47straight]

And by maybe, and I am just taking a wild shot in the dark here........but maybe he was actually a pretty good college quarterback. I hate Texas as much as the next guy, but he was good. He had a LOT of talent around, and he won games. Give em credit if he is due it. And I think he is.

If you'll quit fellating him, you'll notice that indeed I said he has "good enough to be the best thing in that vacuum but not good enough to leave early."

[2121Sooner]

If you'll quit fellating him, you'll notice that indeed I said he has "good enough to be the best thing in that vacuum but not good enough to leave early."

Yeah, that's what I was doing. And that is not all you said, so stop acting like you didnt try to come up with every excuse in the world why he was successful. How many of those reasons could Texas fans come up with why Bradford was so amazing here.

That is what I hate about some OU fans, they cant appreciate talent unless it is wearing Crimson and Cream.

I hate Colt McCoy and wished the plague upon him and couldnt stand that stupid look on his face, but to dismiss his success is silly and with all due respect.....a little ignorant.

Maybe living in Ausin has you a little defensive.

[bluedogok]

To me, Garret Gilbert is nothing spectacular. Sure, he's a freshmen who got thrown into the biggest game of the season, but I wasn't impressed. The one thing that stood out to me was how immobile he was. I can see OU winning the next two, possibly three RRS's. Like someone in some other thread stated a while ago, Texas is lethal when the have a QB who can scramble. Otherwise, they're average. And Garret Gilbert is no scrambler nor does Texas have any type of running game so I think the future is bright for us. Shipley made Gilbert look good in my opinion.......BOOMER!
Gilbert (or whoever is playing QB at *) will have a Shipley next season...and he looks pretty good. We saw him in a playoff game tonight against (Monahans, where my wife went to high school) and when they weren't doubling him or not kicking to him he did well. Brownwood has smoked everyone this season, this was another "close" game for them...a 30 point win.

[ouwasp]

we oughta keep on bumping this until those :texan: _______ are man enough to show up around here again... :mad:

[yankee]

if you think the national championship game is any indication of how good garrett gilbert is going to be, then you've got another thing coming. i honestly hope we don't have to see him in the RRS for the next 3 years...i'm hoping he leaves early for the NFL and we only see him the next 2.

what the **** is wrong with you?


double facepalm.


i apologize on behalf of sooner nation.

[CatfishSooner]

what the **** is wrong with you?


double facepalm.


i apologize on behalf of sooner nation.


:D

[47straight]

Yeah, that's what I was doing. And that is not all you said, so stop acting like you didnt try to come up with every excuse in the world why he was successful. How many of those reasons could Texas fans come up with why Bradford was so amazing here.

That is what I hate about some OU fans, they cant appreciate talent unless it is wearing Crimson and Cream.

I hate Colt McCoy and wished the plague upon him and couldnt stand that stupid look on his face, but to dismiss his success is silly and with all due respect.....a little ignorant.

Maybe living in Ausin has you a little defensive.

1) Learn some reading comprehension.

2) Stop sucking McCoy's ****, Shipley is going to be jealous.

3) Go the **** away. Listen, Horn troll, these are some places you can go if you don't like it if someone points out some reasons why McCoy won so many games that don't involve wearing burnt-orange colored glasses.

orangebloods.com

shaggybevo.com

hornfans.com

[2121Sooner]

1) Learn some reading comprehension.

2) Stop sucking McCoy's ****, Shipley is going to be jealous.

3) Go the **** away. Listen, Horn troll, these are some places you can go if you don't like it if someone points out some reasons why McCoy won so many games that don't involve wearing burnt-orange colored glasses.

orangebloods.com

shaggybevo.com

hornfans.com



You are one ignorant, indigenous, inbred mother F'er 47 Straight if you think I am a Horn Troll. Just cause I dont agree with your obviously superior intellect and vast football knowledge I MUST be a troll.

Good to know we have people like YOU in Austin representing the Sooner faithful. You are the reason we get called Hillbillies and Redneck. Kindly shut the F up.

[Tigeman]

Let's not treat Gilbert like the Horns treated Bradford. Gilbert is not going to suck.


Since Yankee already ate his dish of crow, would you like yours now Leroy? Or would you like to wait 2 more years? :D

[Tigeman]

Gilbert will be dang good. You could see glimpses of it in the BCS game.


and here's your dish too Martin :D

[47straight]

You are one ignorant, indigenous, inbred mother F'er 47 Straight if you think I am a Horn Troll. Just cause I dont agree with your obviously superior intellect and vast football knowledge I MUST be a troll.

Good to know we have people like YOU in Austin representing the Sooner faithful. You are the reason we get called Hillbillies and Redneck. Kindly shut the F up.

I offered a bunch of reasons why maybe McCoy won a whole lot of games while not being the #1 pro prospect in the draft. You haven't contradicted a single one of those reasons. Instead all you can do is ignore these and stick words in my mouth. You're either illiterate, or a whorn troll.

You are right that I'm indigenous, though. Way to get one thing right. Cheers to you!

[2121Sooner]

I offered a bunch of reasons why maybe McCoy won a whole lot of games while not being the #1 pro prospect in the draft. You haven't contradicted a single one of those reasons. Instead all you can do is ignore these and stick words in my mouth. You're either illiterate, or a whorn troll.

You are right that I'm indigenous, though. Way to get one thing right. Cheers to you!


Ok, lets look at your comments other than :texan: and "Spit da truff" that were so eloquent.

By a recruiting vacuum created by noone wanting to come and play behind Vince. By the vacuum created by Vince leaving early.

So if we are to agree that Bradford was the best QB in the Nation, and since we both love our Sooners that isnt much of a stretch to agree upon that, how did we get a quality QB like Landry Jones to commit to OU? I mean, he isnt going to play until he is a Sophomore since Bradford stayed for another year when he could have come out as a Junior. Why come in and play behind a Heisman Trophy candidate and eventual winner. Why play behind someone as revered as Sam Bradford that you will always be compared to? And if there was this vacuum, why did McCoy want to go play there?


By the recuiting vacuum created by noone being good enough to come in behind Colt and usurp him.

So you are saying there wasnt a 5-star recruit out there that could come in and unseat a very lucky and shiitty Colt McCoy. So the vacuum created a situation that made it so nobody good could come in to play after Vince Young but also a situation that made McCoy good enough to not lose his job. Very interesting.

By him being good enough to be the best thing in that vacuum but not good enough to leave early.

He is good enough to stay and win games, but not good enough to go out and be the #1 pick in the draft like Bradford. Won't disagree with that. He will never be the QB Sam Bradford is or will become.

By Texas stockpiling 5* talent around him that was good enough to win 10 games but having the coaching to win it all.

We all bash Mack Brown and his inability to coach this 5 star talents to wins. He got fortunate with Vince Young and that team and again against Nebraska last year to even GET into the MNC.


By having good fortune not to get hurt enough to miss any games.

He gets hurt against Alabama and the team looks like arse until they make a couple of plays in the second half. McCoy doesnt make the stupid interception at the end of the half to really give Alabama a lead that killed Texas. If Gilbert's dumass doesnt throw that pick 6 and maybe it isnt such a crappy game.


And perhaps most significantly, by playing a big pansy non-conf schedule to guarantee 3/4 wins per year.

Yeah, cause we never play Idaho State, Chattanooga, Utah State, or UAB......



Now excuse me, I have to go back to my Whorn boards ........

[47straight]

Ok, lets look at your comments other than :texan: and "Spit da truff" that were so eloquent.

Wow. You got me there. Seriously - how are you not a whorn troll if you object to me using :texan: ? I guess I should stick to trying to call people Native American as an insult like you do.


And something else that really needs to be said - using "indigenous" as slur or insult doesn't really make you a whorn troll, it just makes you prejudiced.

On behalf of all other proud "indigenous" posters on this board, among OU fans, and in the great state of Oklahoma, **** you.

When bradford was here, we got a quality QB recruit in Jones. Not a program-changer. L Jones wasn't a 5 star recruit, so thanks for proving my point.

And to stay on topic of your beloved *, indeed in 2003, no qb's signed
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2003/texas-83

2004 - no qb's signed
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2004/texas-83

In 2005, 1 QB signed, that 3 star Colt McCoy
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2005/texas-83

So yeah, by the time Colt started as a freshman, there was without a doubt a vacuum. And it was b/c no big-time recruit would come to sit behind VY.

Texas has very talented players at every position and they're going to win a lot of games every year most years even with Chance Mock at the helm.

McCoy wasn't hurt and out of action for any wins. Helped bring his total wins up.

And please continue defending UT's OOC schedule against ours. It really shows your mettle.

[C&CDean]

Oh fer ****'s sake. Get a ****ing room you two.

[Collier11]

whats going on here?

[2121Sooner]

Wow. You got me there. Seriously - how are you not a whorn troll if you object to me using :texan: ? I guess I should stick to trying to call people Native American as an insult like you do.


And something else that really needs to be said - using "indigenous" as slur or insult doesn't really make you a whorn troll, it just makes you prejudiced.

On behalf of all other proud "indigenous" posters on this board, among OU fans, and in the great state of Oklahoma, **** you.

When bradford was here, we got a quality QB recruit in Jones. Not a program-changer. L Jones wasn't a 5 star recruit, so thanks for proving my point.

And to stay on topic of your beloved *, indeed in 2003, no qb's signed
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2003/texas-83

2004 - no qb's signed
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2004/texas-83

In 2005, 1 QB signed, that 3 star Colt McCoy
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2005/texas-83

So yeah, by the time Colt started as a freshman, there was without a doubt a vacuum. And it was b/c no big-time recruit would come to sit behind VY.

Texas has very talented players at every position and they're going to win a lot of games every year most years even with Chance Mock at the helm.

McCoy wasn't hurt and out of action for any wins. Helped bring his total wins up.

And please continue defending UT's OOC schedule against ours. It really shows your mettle.


So many places to start with your dumass on this post........

First, I am part Chickasaw and Yakama Indian so please save the feigned offense with the word indigenous as you had to probably Google what it even meant.

When bradford was here, we got a quality QB recruit in Jones. Not a program-changer. L Jones wasn't a 5 star recruit, so thanks for proving my point.

So you are trusting rivals.com and their scouting service as the end-all be-all for rating a QB? Ok, lets go there. I would take Landry Jones over most QB's in the country and he was only a 3 star recruit as you say. Would you take Landry Jones over Terrell Pryor out of Ohio State? Go ahead.....you can say it.....we all know the answer......I would too. Any day of the week. But Pryor was the next coming of Jesus when he went to Ohio State. And since you dont consider Jones a program changer but you do Bradford, what exactly do we think Rivals.com had Bradford rated when he came to OU..........want to hazzard a guess? I have included the link but to give you a hint, him and Jones were rated the same......3 stars. I just really wish my Sooners could get a program changer to commit to OU. We just keep getting these crappy 3 star quarterbacks.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2006/oklahoma-24

Rivals and Scout dont know crap about most of these players coming into college. And seems like you dont either......but I digress. Lets move onto your next idiotic point.


Texas has very talented players at every position and they're going to win a lot of games every year most years even with Chance Mock at the helm.

You must think 5 wins in 2010 was a lot. This one doesnt even merit me discussing, cause you cant defend it.

I cant wait for your reply, I am sure it will be amazing.


HOOK EM!!!!!

[Collier11]

If anyone would take Pryor over Jones they are retarded

[2121Sooner]

whats going on here?


If anyone would take Pryor over Jones they are retarded


I am teaching 47straight a lesson about Sooner football

And I am not sure about whether 47straight would take Jones over Pryor. Pryor was a 5 star rated program changer. Shoot, he might even take Pryor over Bradford......once again.........only 3 stars......not a program changer.

I hope to find out. :pop:

[47straight]

If anyone would take Pryor over Jones they are retarded

Apparently the whorn troll would always take the lesser heralded recruit.

[Collier11]

I think basing anything off of recruiting stars is dumb, see AD vs Bomar, see Bradford and Landry vs Pryor

[2121Sooner]

Apparently the whorn troll would always take the lesser heralded recruit.


I am just using your logic about not getting top flight recruits.


It is about who fits your system not just listening to what everyone tells you and believes it is the gospel.

You should try it sometimes and have an original thought of your own



HOOK EM!!!!

[ouwasp]

tex sux Hook 'em

[SoonerShay]

Bump in honor of GG "almost" leading texas to victory over Bama. ESPNU is replaying the game right now and GG is showing off that awesome potential right now. The potential to turn the ball over 5 times in a game.

[Jello Biafra]

so did 21 and 47 ever get it on?

[badger]

As long as we're on teh subject of whorn, qbs et al... here's an update on the top recruit out of Oklahoma last year (aka "i'm recruited by texas so i'm automatically a 5-star) Demarco Cobbs:

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/sportspost.aspx?/Demarco_Cobbs_new_position_at_Texas/26-11202)

Cliff's Notes Version: They're converting him to linebacker so that he can get more playing time and because they're so thin at that position... thin, heh. I think he's like 210 right now. I would not be surprised to see running backs run right at him. But, I know the summer can lend a few pounds. :eek:

[LakeRat]

As long as we're on teh subject of whorn, qbs et al... here's an update on the top recruit out of Oklahoma last year (aka "i'm recruited by texas so i'm automatically a 5-star) Demarco Cobbs:

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/sportspost.aspx?/Demarco_Cobbs_new_position_at_Texas/26-11202)

Cliff's Notes Version: They're converting him to linebacker so that he can get more playing time and because they're so thin at that position... thin, heh. I think he's like 210 right now. I would not be surprised to see running backs run right at him. But, I know the summer can lend a few pounds. :eek:

I am struggling with depth at running back. They are horrific at that position. They must really be bad at LB.

[NormanPride]

yay!

[Tigeman]

I was just thinking about this thread the other day.... wanted to pull a "Damn I was right".... but decided against it. LOL

[Tigeman]

Let's not treat Gilbert like the Horns treated Bradford. Gilbert is not going to suck.

Ready to rephrase yet? Or still sticking with this one? :D

[Leroy Lizard]

Ready to rephrase yet? Or still sticking with this one? :D

Ask me at the end of next season.

[Quik Sand]

On OUI there was a Texas fan guaranteeing that Gilbert would have a better first season starting than Landry had. That Texas fan is probably (was) on here as well. He/she had a bet on there...almost wish OUI was still around just to bump that one. The OUI poster was keeping updates of the stats comparison weekly.

[Tigeman]

Ask me at the end of next season.

At least your willing to let him battle it out. The TX fans are already throwing the kid under the bus.

[JLEW1818]

yah maybe in 2009 Landry sucked on the road

but Gilbert sucked AT HOME and on the road in 2010

big difference.

Gilbert sucks.

[47straight]

Or... at least 7 -5 and have us go to..

now...

which bowl game did you go to this past year?...

and...

was it even televised?

Bumpa-bump-bump.

[47straight]

Keep in mind that Greg Davis knows how to craft an offense around the talent at hand. It wasn't always the VY/Colt running QB offense. We also had successful offenses relying on RBs (Williams, Benson, Charles, etc.).

Bumpa-bump-bump.

Need to keep these two posts at the forefront of this thread from here out.

[silverwheels]

Where are those little ****ers?

[Tigeman]

Lid's been gone for a while. Actually saw him on the Shag today.

Scholzy's back here though.

[VA Sooner]

Loved this thread. Bump.

[Sooner_Tuf]

Good Times!

[yankee]

Thanks for the bump. Now I get to look back at my idiot f'n post about how great GG was going to be. I am so dumb, fo real.

[sooneron]

Or... at least 7 -5 and have us go to..

now...

which bowl game did you go to this past year?...

and...

was it even televised?
Ya know, this might have to be my sig...:texan:

[85sooners]

**** u lid

[Leroy Lizard]

At least your willing to let him battle it out. The TX fans are already throwing the kid under the bus.

Why? He's a 5-star recruit!

[kelloggOUballa]

Ya know, this might have to be my sig...:texan:

haha, join the club!

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

By the recuiting vacuum created by noone being good enough to come in behind Colt and usurp him.

So you are saying there wasnt a 5-star recruit out there that could come in and unseat a very lucky and shiitty Colt McCoy. So the vacuum created a situation that made it so nobody good could come in to play after Vince Young but also a situation that made McCoy good enough to not lose ........

Well technically the horns got as lucky with McCoy as we got with Bradford. They told colt to take a hike when perriloux committed and then had to talk him into staying when perriloux decommitted.

[olevetonahill]

Thanks for the bump. Now I get to look back at my idiot f'n post about how great GG was going to be. I am so dumb, fo real.

Been tryin to tell ya But would ya listen? NOOOOOOO. :D

[swardboy]

In other news....hornfans is down again.

[JLEW1818]

LOL

[TahoeSOONER]

In other news....hornfans is down again.

Should take 5-7 hours to get back online.

[47straight]

Lid's been gone for a while. Actually saw him on the Shag today.

Scholzy's back here though.

Scholtz was on another thread talking smack about Fleming.

I even directed him over here.

Maybe I'm on ignore?

[badger]

Speaking of * smoking something, your token Chrissy Simms update:

Link (http://newsok.com/nyc-testimony-pal-used-pot-titans-simms-didnt/article/feed/255914?custom_click=headlines_widget)

[Sooner_Tuf]

Speaking of * smoking something, your token Chrissy Simms update:

Link (http://newsok.com/nyc-testimony-pal-used-pot-titans-simms-didnt/article/feed/255914?custom_click=headlines_widget)

That's quite a trick Mr Simms. You suck yet you don't inhale. Not sure who is going to buy that. But congrats on dragging this out for a year to keep reminding all of us about your transgression.

[soonerloyal]

"A police officer says Simms was "zombie"-like..."

Don't bust him for that, Officer. Chrissy has the personality & pizzazz of an after-dinner mint.

[85sooners]

Simms is a punk bitch just ask trrw

[SoonerofAlabama]

Gilbert most likely won't be the starter next season. I didn't think he was very good even for the situation, although Alabama did play hard enough to knock out McCoy and did not give Gilbert an inch of room to work with.