2010 NFL Combine

[OK2U]

Any update on Sooners at the combine?

Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham measured 6'5/261 at Thursday's Combine weigh-in.

He's an inch shorter and three pounds heavier than the Sooners listed him. For Gresham, though, the forty-yard dash and agility drills will be most telling. The draft's consensus No. 1 tight end is coming off a major knee injury.
Source: Move The Sticks on Twitter

[HillbillyRay]

just heard on the radio that gresham has been in with the docs for about 8 hours, even missed his media interviews...i bet that was one long day!

[sooner59]

If Gresham is 6'5", then Randy Moss is only 6'4". I stood next to him and I have friends who are 6'5". Unless knee surgery shrunk him. But his height is actually less important for him than his wingspan. His giant wingspan made him the big target.

[JLEW1818]

where can i view the height/weight

[swardboy]

where can i view the height/weight

http://www.nfl.com/combine/players

[JLEW1818]

I'm ready to see Colt McCoy height.

I'm saying 6 foot. maybe 6'1

[pappy]

According to that Jermaine and Brody are both 6'5" 261 ... I'm pretty sure Jermaine is taller than Brody.

[OU-HSV]

http://www.nfl.com/combine/players
Just to go more in depth for the lazy, here's this link..directly to the Sooners' measurements:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/players#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-college

[colleyvillesooner]

Bradford just checked in at an impressive 6' 4 1/4", 236 lbs.

Dude hit the weight hard since 2007.

[colleyvillesooner]

Colt Mccoy 6' 1 1/8" 216 lbs.

[colleyvillesooner]

Tebow 6' 2 3/4", 236 lbs

so Bradford is bigger. :)

[rawlingsHOH]

Bradford just checked in at an impressive 6' 4.2", 236 lbs.

Dude hit the weight hard since 2007.

Jeezes!

That was about 15-20 pouns heavier than I would have expected.

[KantoSooner]

He had a big breakfast.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Jeezes!

That was about 15-20 pouns heavier than I would have expected.

he's wirey

[badger]

If you go to Bob Stoops' Web site (that one that was linked here awhile back) you can see Sammie working out and that kid is BUILT. I don't think he went and got fat during his time off. That added weight is probably 100 percent muscle :D

[CU Sooner]

So you're saying he was lifting weights.;)

[cheezyq]

If Gresham is 6'5", then Randy Moss is only 6'4". I stood next to him and I have friends who are 6'5". Unless knee surgery shrunk him. But his height is actually less important for him than his wingspan. His giant wingspan made him the big target.

This. I was on the field next to the guy. No way he's under 6'6". Even on his crutches the guy was taller than me, and I'm 6'3".

[badger]

I am hearing more and more reports that Sam is going to St. Louis like this one. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20100226_92_0_INDIAN508117)

This brings up new, awesome nickname potential.

St. Louis Sam?

Sam the Ram?

Rammie Sammie?

In any event, if they take him, St. Louis isn't too far away, amirite? We could take a big ol' sooner caravan up there and cheer for nobody but sam :D

[NormanPride]

I just hope they make other moves before they start playing him. Like getting a better OL, RB, WRs, Coach, and Defense.

[rawlingsHOH]

Gresham was officially 6052, in other words 6 - 5 and 1/4 inch.

And since nearly every human on the planet rounds up to the nearest inch on their "height", 6-6 is good enough!

[badger]

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[badger]

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Colt: You must be an Aggie!

(texags.com currently fuming over this)

[Collier11]

Ive played bball against Gresham, im 6'2'' and he towered over me

Colt was pretty surprising, bigger than I though

[Collier11]

wow

[Collier11]

wow

[Collier11]

wow

[Collier11]

wtf

[Collier11]

wtf

[Collier11]

wtf

[ouleaf]

I am hearing more and more reports that Sam is going to St. Louis like this one. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20100226_92_0_INDIAN508117)

This brings up new, awesome nickname potential.

St. Louis Sam?

Sam the Ram?

Rammie Sammie?

In any event, if they take him, St. Louis isn't too far away, amirite? We could take a big ol' sooner caravan up there and cheer for nobody but sam :D

Another reason for this scenario would be that Defensive Tackles just don't get paid that much on average. I think even top DT's make something like 7 or 8 million a year. And if you pick a DT as first overall they are going to see the past No. 1 picks have been getting 11-12 million and you end up paying a lot of money to a guy, who as great as they may not be, are not worth the 11 million they are being paid.

[Collier11]

DTs are easily worth top dollar if they are good enough, also, #1 picks get like $30 mil gauranteed, not 11 or 12

[badger]

I have confidence that the Rams are the wasteland they seem to have turned into. A franchise player could get the team turned around and winning again and fill the stands.

Plus, Sam the Ram... St. Louis Sam... it just sounds perfect, doesn't it?!

Oh, and Rammie Sammie. That's my favorite :D

[Collier11]

The Rams need a good QB but they also need Oline help badly

[RacerX]

.

Your most succinct post ever.

[badger]

Your most succinct post ever.

I don't do succinct. I type too fast. If I sucked at typing, I'd probably write a lot less :D

[badger]

Also, since I already posted another combine-ad-that-features-rival-school-athlete, have another:

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[Collier11]

Here is a generic one from before this season but Bradford is in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX2ph7psDAE

[VA Sooner]

Sam the Ram... Rammie Sammie... St Louis Sam.

All have a good ring to it. I can't believe he's bulked up to 236#... most impressive!

[rainiersooner]

Plus, Sam the Ram... St. Louis Sam... it just sounds perfect, doesn't it?!

Oh, and Rammie Sammie. That's my favorite :D

It doesn't sound any better than Seattle Sam! :D

[cvsooner]

236 pounds? Wow....that means he weighs more than Adrian Peterson.

He's either really worked out hard with Schmitty, taking steroids or he's gotten fat.

[pappy]

there was a scout talking about him on espn wasn't mcshay or kiper and said bradford looks to be in incredible shape and the size should move him up draft boards. Lots of guys are predicting bradford to the rams now and there a also a lot of scouts who say mccoy over suh if the rams do go the dt route.

[swardboy]

A Rotoworld tweet makes it sound like Sam is throwing. That can't be the case, can it?
It says both had excellent weighins, and Sam is clearly the better athlete and more accurate passer, but that Clausen has superior arm strength...hard to believe that too.

Edit: Nevermind...just read John Hoover's report from the combine which confirms Bradford is NOT throwing. Also confirms that the extra weight is ALL muscle.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

This bullet from Yahoo doesn't really fit this thread, but I didn't want to start a new one for this ....


• Arizona quarterback Matt Leinart will have much to prove as he enters his fifth season in the NFL and replaces Kurt Warner(notes) as the Cardinals starter. One teammate recently gave Leinart little chance to become a successful player or even a good leader. “A complete pu$$Y,” one Cardinals player said. Ouch.

[Collier11]

Holliday from LSU ran a 4.22 40 time, wow!


Terrance Cody weighs in at 354 which the scouts are happy about, lol

[Collier11]

Gresham did 20 reps on the bench

[Collier11]

Bruce Campbell, OT from Maryland ran a 4.78, another wow!

[okienole3]

Trent Williams ran a 4.82. That's quik. I realized how fast he was when he trucked after the guy after Landry's pick in the Sun Bowl.

[Collier11]

Thats a helluva run for big Trent

[ousooners182]

Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham unofficially ran 4.76 and 4.73 forty times at the Combine Saturday morning.

[Collier11]

not bad for a TE coming off of Knee surgery Im guessing

[Eielson]

not bad for a TE coming off of Knee surgery Im guessing

Sub-4.7 is what was kinda wanted. It's not going to drop him out of the first round, though.

[Collier11]

after looking at the other TE times it would def help him to get that down in the 4.6s at pro day

[icmwhOU72]

Greshams problem was his start. He took a huge first step and it slows you down. He looked a little nervous today. I do not think he hurt his stock i just think he didnt help it. Just to let you all know just how athletic trent williams is Gresham had a 35 inch vert and willilams had a 34 inch vert. i think williams might have moved up the the number 2 tackle

[oumartin]

Looked like Gresham was running in quick sand compared to the other tight ends. Hopefully it improves on pro day. Knee injury has to be what limited him

[yankee]

Bruce Campbell, OT from Maryland ran a 4.78, another wow!

al davis already has him penciled in.

[badger]

Sub-4.7 is what was kinda wanted. It's not going to drop him out of the first round, though.

I bet he could hit that at OU's pro day. Improvement will be huge for the scouts. Shows he's working hard to come back from the knee thing

[Big Red Ron]

Holliday from LSU ran a 4.22 40 time, wow!

Isn't he like 5'5 145lbs?

[Collier11]

yea he is small, I doubt he could be anything other than a return specialist and a part time WR like Dante Hall was most of his career

[unbiasedtruth]

the deal about Sam, pony and the messiah.... last year's heisman trophy award, when the 3 were standing together Sam was a good 2 inches taller than the messiah who was another 1-2 inches taller than pony boy. I knew Sam was a legit 6'4" but no way was the messiah and pony boy both 6'3" as listed....

[VA Sooner]

Taller than Tebow and McCoy... same weight as Tebow... and more accurate than either two. That... and a very smart head on his shoulders... Bradford should go number 1 to the Rams.

Good for him but I'd rather see him go to a better team with a much better line.

Gresham needs to get that 40 time down a bit. Still strong and will prove himself at his Pro day at OU.

Good showing for Williams. 3 Sooners in the top 10-15 picks, possibly a fourth if Gresham gets his speed back.

[Big Red Ron]

If you go to the Bradford Presser link. You can also see Claussen's presser. The difference is night and day. Sam seems like a CEO, Claussen seems like a goof ball.

They asked both the same question, "What teams are you talking with?"

Bradford, "Well, I'm not sure that that information should be out there at this point."

Claussen, "The Redskins and Buffalo."

IMO, it's very smart to keep those cards close to the vest and Claussen showed his hand before the flop.

[HillbillyRay]

hmmm... reminds me of '98 kinda,
manning was the one with the good head on his shoulders and the character/work ethic, leaf had all the tools but couldnt put it together upstairs, as a cowboys fan i would love to see clausen go there and be a total train wreck!!!

[HillbillyRay]

hmmm... reminds me of '98 kinda,
manning was the one with the good head on his shoulders and the character/work ethic, leaf had all the tools but couldnt put it together upstairs, as a cowboys fan i would love to see clausen go there and be a total train wreck!!!

the redskins that is

[Collier11]

A complete shocker, to me atleast. Tebow out runs Mccoy in the 40, I stand corrected as I thought Mccoy would blow him away in a sprint.

Jacoby Ford runs a 4.28, tied for 2nd fastest time since 2000

[soonerinkaty]

Just to satisfy my curiousity, did Sam run?

[Collier11]

Not that I know of

[Eielson]

I love how the media can't give the truth if it isn't that interesting. They were all over Suh after the college football season ended. He was the no-brainer first pick in the draft. Then people start changing their pick to McCoy even though there is absolutely nothing that had happened to make them change their opinion. Now they are saying Bradford even though he still has yet to throw a ball.

[Collier11]

Part of it is speculation and part of it is stuff they hear from the scouts and front office peeps, nothing else going on so they have to create a story

[OK2U]

Gresham's numbers are not at all good....
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

[Collier11]

Notes in here about Gresh and Trent


Risers & Sliders: Athletic tackles, tight ends rule Day 3 of Combine


Full combine workouts got under way in Indianapolis on Saturday, as the offensive linemen and tight ends took the field. There were several outstanding performances, with a number of prospects moving up draft boards and improving their stocks. Several other players, including a few top names, moved in the other direction. Here's a look at the initial workouts at this years NFL Combine:
Risers

Bruce Campbell/T/Maryland: As we alluded to in last week's Top 50 list, Campbell was expected to turn in a great workout -- and he didn't disappoint. The 314-pound Campbell posted two solid 40 times around 4.7 seconds; he also looked terrific during offensive line drills. On Friday, he completed 34 repetitions of 225 pounds on the bench press. Though not a staggering number, it's impressive when factoring in his arm length of 36&#188; inches -- the longest of any offensive lineman. Campbell has solidified himself in the top half of Round 1.

Russell Okung/T/Oklahoma State: Okung showed why he is widely considered the top offensive lineman in this draft. He put up a solid 38 reps on the bench with arms that measured just a quarter inch shy of Campbell's. Okung then ran a pair of solid forty's in times which averaged around 5.12 seconds. He started strong in drills before a minor leg injury sidelined him.

Jimmy Graham/TE/Miami (Fla.): Graham continues to impress scouts every time he takes the field. Graham broke 4.6 in both 40 times. His receiving workout was stellar, too, as Graham flowed about the field making all the catches. Graham was not even on the scouting radar entering the season but has now moved into the draft's top 60 picks.

Dorin Dickerson/TE/Pittsburgh: Dickerson continues the upward momentum he built during Senior Bowl week. He was the fastest tight end on the field, at one point timing 4.47 seconds in the 40. Dickerson later displayed reliable hands during his workout. He measures just 6-1&#189; and 226 pounds and is not a player for everyone. Yet Dickerson has established himself as a receiving threat that's too fast for linebackers to cover yet big enough to outmatch defensive backs.

Mike Iupati/OL/Idaho: Iupati's physical tests were not overly impressive, running the 40 in the 5.3 range and completing only 27 reps on the bench. Yet once the offensive line drills started, Iupati looked terrific. He was athletic and explosive, displaying good movement skills -- besides footwork -- in pass protection drills. Iupati continues to move up draft boards.

Bryan Bulaga/T/Iowa: Bulaga did not put up impressive numbers during the bench press or 40, but like Iupati, he was terrific when asked to showcase his football skills. The Hawkeye junior moved effortlessly about the field, displaying outstanding footwork, hand quickness and overall explosion. Bulaga looked more polished than people thought and is likely to move into the middle of Round 1.

Dennis Pitta/TE/BYU: The combine is about expectations more than anything else, and Pitta exceeded them. He's a known commodity catching the football, but his 27 reps on the bench and 40 times (below 4.7) were a pleasant surprise.

Jared Veldheer/T/Hillsdale: The small-school tackle has looked like a big-time player at the combine. His physical tests were solid, running the 40 under 5.1 after tipping the scales at 312. He also looked effective in drills, but Veldheer really impressed people during the interview process. Scouts said Veldheer was not at all intimidated by the combine atmosphere -- unusual for a player from such a small school. He's being compared to Sebastian Volmer, the Patriots' second-round pick in 2009, though many feel Veldheer has greater upside.

Trent Williams/OL/Oklahoma: Williams is giving scouts reason for pause after his poor senior season. The 315-pound lineman ran 40s in the 4.85 range, second-fastest of any blocker. He then looked very athletic during line drills. Hence, scouts must either upgrade Williams based on the physical skills he's displayed at the combine or downgrade him on the poor play last season.
Sliders

Anthony Davis/T/Rutgers: Davis looked sluggish, poorly conditioned and worst of all, very ordinary at the combine. He completed just 21 reps on the bench press and could not break 5.4 in the 40. Davis looked very stale on the field, almost as if he hasn't been working out recently. In our Top 50 list, we mentioned scouts would grill Davis about his passion for football. He did nothing to quell the criticism or answer questions in Indianapolis.

Cole Pemberton/T/Colorado State: Pemberton looks the part but did not test to it the past two days. The 6-7/315-pound tackle was only able to complete 18 reps on the bench press, a number equaled or bettered by all but two tight ends. His 40 times were slow, and Pemberton displayed little in the way of athleticism during drills.

Dace Richardson/G/Iowa: The 320-pound lineman was sluggish, slow and did not counter with a strong showing on the bench. Richardson could not break 5.7 in the 40 and completed just 19 reps on the bench press.

Notes: Jermaine Gresham of Oklahoma had an adequate showing at the combine. Sitting out the '09 season with a knee injury, Gresham ran the 40 in the mid-4.7 area and lacked quickness and explosion throughout his workout. He was not able to run to the deep throw and displayed a marginal burst of speed, two traits he showed as a junior and sophomore with the Sooners.

Arkansas offensive lineman Mitch Petrus tied a combine record by completing 45 reps on the bench press Friday. The former fullback was unable to capitalize with a good workout on Saturday, as many had expected. Petrus injured his left hamstring during his first running of the 40 (5.25) and was sidelined the rest of the day.

With all the quarterbacks that have announced they will not take part in their combine workout Sunday, who will throw the ball? Dan LeFevour, for one. It was erroneously reported LeFevour would join the likes of Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen as non-participants here in Indianapolis. LeFevour set the record straight and said he intends on completing all the physical tests, then take part in at least 50 percent of the throwing workout.

Terrence Cody tipped the scales at 354 pounds during combine weigh-ins, 20 less than his Senior Bowl weight. While Cody will not win any upcoming Mr. Universe contests, he is headed in the right direction. Cody must now convince NFL teams his recent weight loss is a change in lifestyle moving forward, rather than a short-term fix to reverse his tumbling draft grade.

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[Eielson]

A complete shocker, to me atleast. Tebow out runs Mccoy in the 40, I stand corrected as I thought Mccoy would blow him away in a sprint.

Too bad 4.72 is still fullback speed.

[Eielson]

Holliday from LSU ran a 4.22 40 time, wow!

He's listed at 4.34.

[Eielson]

Marcus Easley had a 123 inch vertical jump according to NFL.com. What a stud.

[Collier11]

Too bad 4.72 is still fullback speed.

He is a QB, that is pretty fast for a qb


He's listed at 4.34.

Got it from Adam Schefter on Twitter

[Eielson]

He is a QB, that is pretty fast for a qb

Yeah, I guess, but not fast enough to be a running quarterback. That means he's going to have to rely on his arm. Ha!


Got it from Adam Schefter on Twitter

The guy who said Stoops was leaving even after Stoops addressed it about five different times?

[Eielson]

When does McCoy run his 40?

(Edit: Monday)

[Collier11]

Yeah, I guess, but not fast enough to be a running quarterback. That means he's going to have to rely on his arm. Ha!

Maybe Hback speed, lol

The guy who said Stoops was leaving even after Stoops addressed it about five different times?

Yep, never said he was 100% accurate :D

[Eielson]

Does Bruce Campbell scare anybody else?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d816a05c0/Campbell-on-combine

[Collier11]

Vernon Davis is scary

[Eielson]

Vernon Davis is scary

I was honestly thinking "this is a bigger version of Vernon Davis" when watching that video.

[Big Red Ron]

Gresham's numbers are not at all good....
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
Coming off of a knee surgery that still isn't 100%, he didn't run too bad. The NFL Network guys are still listing him as a late first rounder. Hell, if Willis McGehey (sp) can go in the first round on crutches, I think JG is going to be fine.

[swardboy]

Well crap....Chris Brown pulled his hamstring on his first 40 yard dash attempt.

[OK2U]

Jeezes!That was about 15-20 pouns heavier than I would have expected.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/353891-2010-nfl-combine-bradfords-weight-shakes-up-top-five


But the knock on Bradford has always been his size. Standing at 6’4”, 220 or so pounds, Bradford was too light for his own good. Scouts had questions as to whether or not he could hold up at the NFL level...Bradford took his turn, and surprised the sleep deprived room (the weigh-ins start at 7:30am after all) by weighing in at 236 pounds, and every bit of it appeared to be muscle.

[OK2U]

Well crap....Chris Brown pulled his hamstring on his first 40 yard dash attempt.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/28/oklahomas-brown-pulls-up-lame-spiller-best-fly/


INDIANAPOLIS — Oklahoma RB Chris Brown limped back to the sideline following his first 40-yard dash Sunday at the NFL Scouting Combine. A few moments later, it was announced that Brown had suffered a strained hamstring and was “done.”

While not widely considered one of the elite draft-eligible backs, Brown could have helped his stock by posting a phenomenal time.

[Leroy Lizard]

But the knock on Bradford has always been his size. Standing at 6’4”, 220 or so pounds, Bradford was too light for his own good.

I thought 6’4”, 220 lbs was pretty good for a QB. What is the average in the NFL?

[Collier11]

220-250

[Leroy Lizard]

Things have sure changed.

Here is what I found on Troy Aikman from Wiki:


Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m), Weight: 220 lb (100 kg)

That is exactly the same as Bradford. But wasn't Troy considered big for a quarterback in his day?

[swardboy]

I think Dante Culpepper was a defining moment in pro football....that QB's with great size are more durable. Not sure if I really agree. He's had his injury issues. Tarkenton was 6' and had pretty good longevity. But man, it sure gets violent back in that pocket...

[Leroy Lizard]

Does size really protect you? I'm not so sure. Do smaller RBs get hurt more?

[SunnySooner]

It's all about perception--bigger, stronger QB is perceived to be more durable, therefore more 1st-round-draftworthy. Whether it really has anything to do with anything is another matter.

[misplacedsooner]

agreed, fran and his counterparts had a much rougher time back then, there really was no protecting the qb back then.

[Collier11]

Numbers of interest thus far

QBs

Jarrett Brown of WVU ran a 4.54
Tebow had the highest verticle ever for a QB at 38.5
Zac Robinson ran a 4.71, faster than Tebow or Mccoy
Dan Lefevour ran a 4.66

RBs

CJ Spiller ran a 4.37
Jahvid Best ran a 4.35
They have Chris Brown listed at 4.58 so I guess he was able to finish his 1st run?
Toby Gehrhart ran a 4.53 which is faster than I thought
Montario Hardesty ran a 4.49, had a 41 inch vertical and I hear he is cruising up the boards
Ryan Matthews ran a 4.53
Joe McKnight a 4.47
Ben Tate of Auburn ran a 4.43 and did 26 reps on the bench, tied for 1st among RBs
Keith Toston a 4.7


WRs

Arrelious Benn ran a 4.43
Dez Briscoe only ran a 4.61
Marty Gilyrard a 4.56
Jordan Shipley a 4.57 which is much faster than I expected
Golden Tate a 4.42

[Crucifax Autumn]

Numbers of interest thus far


Tebow had the highest verticle ever for a QB at 38.5


All those jump passes really paying off!

[Collier11]

extra calf raises, he is a smart dude :D

[Leroy Lizard]

So has Tebow's stock in the draft changed? Just curious. He was projected by some to be a halfback, but I just don't see it.

[Big Red Ron]

So has Tebow's stock in the draft changed? Just curious. He was projected by some to be a halfback, but I just don't see it.
Not a tail back but maybe an H-Back/tight end.

[ouleaf]

A few observations I had when watching the Combine.

1) The tackle from Maryland, Campbell, is an absolute athletic freak. Dude is 300 lbs of muscle
2) I definitely think Tebow improved his stock to be drafted as a QB. He had a great workout, despite not throwing. By all accounts he was great in the interview room. They also showed video of him re-tooling his throwing motion, and it does look a lot better. I'm excited to see what he can do at his pro-day.
3) There were some fast dudes (Ford, Best, Spiller, Holliday), but still no one was really close to Chris Johnson's time last year when all the times were official. We'll have to see if their are any D-backs that can threaten the time.
4) Golden Tate for the Domers did a lot to improve his stock. Fast times, looked good catching the ball. I'd look for him to be one of the first WR off the board
5) This RB class looks loaded. All of those guys have real potential to succeed at the next level. And there was a good mix of smaller speed guys, and big bull RBs. Toby Gerhart is the real deal. He'll definitely make an impact at the next level.

on to our guys

1) Trent Williams had a great workout. I think he would have had the best workout if it weren't for Campbell. His kickback slide in the edge rushing drill was outstanding.
2) Gresham was a little bit dissapointing, but it was great just seeing him out there. He's still thought of as the No. 1 TE prospect though, for his abilities in both the passing and blocking games.
3) I'm not sure if Eldridge was already hurting a little bit going into it, but he definitely got hurt during one of the gauntlet drills. I think it was a pulled hammy. The analysts were all very complimentary of him though, and said he is the best blocker in the draft this year.
4) Chris Brown tweaked something either a hammy or something in his back. He ran an okay 4.58 time, but wasn't able to continue the workouts after that.

On a final note, I don't know if they have done this before, but the NFL network has this cool graphic now after guys run their 40's. It's like where the sync up 3 or 4 guys videos while running their 40's at the same time, so you can really see who the faster guy is. It was cool when the did the QBs. I think they had LeFevour, Tebow, McCoy, and Snead together and it's cool how they all start together and then they start to pull away from each other as they get to the end of the 40.

[OK2U]

McCoy v Suh:

Suh outbenched McCoy with 32 reps at 225 pounds to McCoy's 23. McCoy ran better (and worse) in the 40-yard dash with times of 4.96 and 5.14 seconds (unofficially) to Suh's 4.98 and 5.07.

NFL analysts said they were "stunned" by McCoy's low number of reps, suggested he hasn't been lifting enough during "the last three years." His 23 reps were not listed in the top 12 by D-Line men.

[OK2U]

Keenan Clayton--still waiting on 40 times and other events.
5th best bench @ 27 reps

[OK2U]

Update:
Clayton unofficial 40 first attempt: 4.59
pretty good so far for the LBs.

[rawlingsHOH]

McCoy v Suh:

Suh outbenched McCoy with 32 reps at 225 pounds to McCoy's 23. McCoy ran better (and worse) in the 40-yard dash with times of 4.96 and 5.14 seconds (unofficially) to Suh's 4.98 and 5.07.

NFL analysts said they were "stunned" by McCoy's low number of reps, suggested he hasn't been lifting enough during "the last three years." His 23 reps were not listed in the top 12 by D-Line men.

OU program isn't based on lifting light weight for high reps. And it isn't all that centered around the bench press any to begin with. A lot of guys go off and do their own thing anyway. But the high rep bench test is a silly combine related excercise that will never be applicable to these cats again.

It's also subjective to which lift count as being "good". I remember I saw Joe Jon Finley a couple years ago do about 25, but half of them were wiped out due to "incorrect" form.

[Collier11]

Im really surprised that Mccoy ran so slow

[Collier11]

Id like to know STEPs opinion on some of what weve seen so far in the combine but I have to think that Clayton having a good workout will push him up from late rd to possible 4th-5th rd

[NormanPride]

Yeah, I'm missing the STEP action in here.

[TXBOOMER]

I would be shocked if GM goes before Suh. Suh is as quick, stronger and bulkier. That extra bulk is huge in the NFL. Good for both of them. They will make more money when they sign than I will if I live to be 1200 years old.

[Collier11]

Claytons 2nd time is 4.65

[OK2U]

yuck, but as usually, the first time is the best.
Are his number "official" yet?

[Collier11]

clayton has had two pretty decent times compared to the rest

[OK2U]

He weighs less than most of the LBs,too

[ouleaf]

Yeah, he is pretty small to play LB at the NFL, so he won't be as high on teams who look for specific measurables. He'll have to prove he can get it done on Kickoff Coverage to ensure a roster spot.

I'm not really surprised that McCoy's bench was as low as it was. he's never been a brute strength guy. It's his agility, quick burst, and good handwork that gets him into the back field to get to the RB or QB. If McCoy were going to play a NT at the next level, then I'd be a little more concerned about the strength thing, but he's more of a 3 technique guy lining up between the Guard and Tackle.

[Eielson]

McCoy v Suh:

Suh outbenched McCoy with 32 reps at 225 pounds to McCoy's 23. McCoy ran better (and worse) in the 40-yard dash with times of 4.96 and 5.14 seconds (unofficially) to Suh's 4.98 and 5.07.

NFL analysts said they were "stunned" by McCoy's low number of reps, suggested he hasn't been lifting enough during "the last three years." His 23 reps were not listed in the top 12 by D-Line men.

The bench press test is silly. What importance is a 25 rep bench max for football? Basically none. The bench isn't the supreme judge of strength anyway...even if it were used correctly.

As for a 40 yard dash...when is the last time you saw a DT run for 40 yards in a straight line during a play? It's useless for a DT.

Anyway, it's always looked to me that McCoy is quicker and Suh is stronger. I'm not going to be surprised by any of these tests unless they point the other direction.

[SoonerInKCMO]

I think I could outrun this Mount Cody guy.

[ashley]

Holliday from LSU ran a 4.22 40 time, wow!


Terrance Cody weighs in at 354 which the scouts are happy about, lol

Where did you see Holiday ran 4.22.

[Collier11]

if you would read the thread I already answered this question

[ashley]

McCoy v Suh:

Suh outbenched McCoy with 32 reps at 225 pounds to McCoy's 23. McCoy ran better (and worse) in the 40-yard dash with times of 4.96 and 5.14 seconds (unofficially) to Suh's 4.98 and 5.07.

NFL analysts said they were "stunned" by McCoy's low number of reps, suggested he hasn't been lifting enough during "the last three years." His 23 reps were not listed in the top 12 by D-Line men.

Maybe he is just not as strong.

[ashley]

if you would read the thread I already answered this question

I can't find it.

[misplacedsooner]

i think your on to something there

[Collier11]

Got it from Adam Schefter on Twitter


Where did you see Holiday ran 4.22.


I can't find it.

There ya go

[texaspokieokie]

i feel that any of these tests where the OU guy does not excell;just really
are not valid.

[SCxxSOONER]

Hollidays unofficial time was the fastest.....but i think Jacoby Ford had the fastest official time of 4.28

[rawlingsHOH]

Keenan Clayton's 41 1/2" vert, third best at combine so far.

[rawlingsHOH]

.

[OK2U]

Any news on Franks or Jackson today?

[OK2U]

Any news on Franks or Jackson today?

[OK2U]

Any news on Franks or Jackson today?

[OK2U]

Any news on Franks or Jackson today?

[My Opinion Matters]

Noticed no one has brought it up, is there any news on Franks or Jackson today?

[icmwhOU72]

all i have seen is that jackson got 20 on the bench which was second best at corner. kyle wilson from bsu got 25.

[OU4LIFE]

Just curious if there was any news on Franks or Jackson?

Today?

[OU4LIFE]

That bench press for dline guys is pretty archaic, whats the point. I'd rather know how good a guys base is...I mean the guy is supposed to occupy blockers so LB's can make plays.

Maybe one of these days we'll see them stop the game for a bench press competition and award a TD for the team that does the most, but it's not played that way right now.

[misplacedsooner]

oh heck...you know all these scouts want to see how far each guy can ****.

[RedstickSooner]

al davis already has him penciled in.

As next head coach.:D

[Collier11]

Just curious if there was any news on Franks or Jackson?

Today?

neither of them ran in the 4.4s it looks like, I know Dfranks was expecting to run in the 4.3s so im sure he is disappointed

[Collier11]

Jackson ran a 4.58, Franks a 4.52

[rawlingsHOH]

sounds about right for BJ. i would have guessed 1/10th lower for franks.

[Collier11]

Franks said he wanted a 4.3, will be interesting to see if he improves at Pro Day

[MojoRisen]

It seemed like they were knocking off a tenth on a few guys - Spiller ran a 4.28 and ended up with a 4.37 official. Not sure why but they seem to do that after the fact with the officials.

[NormanPride]

Franks running a 4.52 really hurts him, IMO.

[ouleaf]

yeah, I'm surprised Franks wasn't in the 4.4's. He's got to show up with a better time at the Pro Day.

Jackson is probably one of the bigger corners you'll come across, and you might see him at a FS position in the NFL, so he wasn't expected to be a burner.

[Ruf/Nek7]

Anyone catch colt last night during the OU/texass bball game say he ran a 4.6 40 time? Thats funny colt, cause ESPN and NFL Combine results both say 4.79 jackass!

[Eielson]

Are unofficial times hand-timed or something?

[Collier11]

I think they call it unofficial because they later add time to their run because of the fast track, I could be wrong though

[gaylordfan1]

Jackson ran a 4.58, Franks a 4.52

Anyone else thinking maybe Franks might be second guessing his decision?

[goingoneight]

Not when Joe "Flash" Haden ran a 4.6

Franks isn't magically going to make the dramatic improvement to 4.4/4.3 by coming back.

[IronHorseSooner]

The way times have been going lately, that's actually decent, but he won't get any faster with another year in Norman.

[gaylordfan1]

Well, thats true... but I do think he would have helped himself by coming back. Regardless, he will make some money and I wish him the best. I'm sure Stoops was watching and said "I told you so" under his breath.

[Collier11]

atleast they didnt run in the 4.6s-4.7s like the last few yrs when our guys went pro

[primetime43]

atleast they didnt run in the 4.6s-4.7s like the last few yrs when our guys went pro

Lendy Holmes, Nic Harris, Derrick Strait...

[Collier11]

Reggie Smith and DJ as well

[sooner518]

why does the NFL not immediately post the laser-timed times? it makes no sense to post these 40 unofficial times, only to put the "official" times up hours later. its 2010, surely someone can make this process automated so the official times are known immediately.

[MojoRisen]

Even the Analyst are complaining about the desparity from the unofficials to the electronic times.

Does OU have electric for Winter Testing? Some guys are loosing almost 2 tenth's off thier times. Basically a 4.52 could easily be a 44 flat on hand held.

[OK2U]

Lendy Holmes, Nic Harris, Derrick Strait...
Well. to be fare, Harris was a DB in a linebacker's body.
He probably should have tested with the LBs, after all that IS where he plays know in Buffalo.

The others have no excuse for being lard-as$es though.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Derrick Strait ran in the 4.5's

[rawlingsHOH]

Derrick Strait ran in the 4.5's
yep, anywhere from 4.47 to 4.58. It wasnt his size or his speed that held him back, it was his man-to-man skills, or lack there of.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

yup...and his health once he got into the league

[Eielson]

I wouldn't mind another Derrick Strait at OU.

[NormanPride]

I'd take seven of them.

[primetime43]

Derrick Strait ran in the 4.5's

For some reason I thought he was slower than that. Makes sense though because wasn't it Strait who ran down Justin Vincent in the Sugar bowl on the very first play? He was definitely running a 4.5 on that play.

[Collier11]

yea it was Strait after a cpl of missed tackles at the LOS, blaht

[MojoRisen]

Straight played great in that game, we should have won! White should have been on cruches....

[misplacedsooner]

i saw a mock yesterday that had dom going 1st round...kinda blew me away.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Shutdown-Corner-mock-draft-Part-2?urn=nfl,225440

[KantoSooner]

That was a pertty luke warm endorsement.

[misplacedsooner]

just that it was the first time id seen him in the 1st round.

[Collier11]

not gonna happen, id say at the very best he might sneak into the back of the 2nd round

[misplacedsooner]

thats about what i was hearing at best. sounds sweet though.

[Ruf/Nek7]

i saw a mock yesterday that had dom going 1st round...kinda blew me away.
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I feel like this guy did some over analyzing... some of these picks are understandable but others are out there. No way are the Dallas Cowboys taking a CB in the first round! That right there pushes Dom out of the first round.