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OU-HSV
1/30/2010, 03:11 PM
Didn't we hear this before?? And they keep coming out with new stories about it. I still say the government needs to figure their own sh*t out. I'm sick of this economy being in the dumps and having to wonder every effin Monday whether I it will be my turn to get laid off. And these *** clowns want to tweak with the BCS?!! Stay focussed Obama admin...get the economy straightened out like you claim you can. Good gosh.

I think the part I bolded sums my thoughts up. They need to keep their grubby hands off of football and worry about the economy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4870657


BCS under scrutiny from Capitol Hill

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is considering several steps that would review the legality of the controversial Bowl Championship Series, the Justice Department said in a letter Friday to a senator who had asked for an antitrust review.

In the letter to Sen. Orrin Hatch, obtained by The Associated Press, Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich wrote that the Justice Department is reviewing Hatch's request and other materials to determine whether to open an investigation into whether the BCS violates antitrust laws.

"Importantly, and in addition, the administration also is exploring other options that might be available to address concerns with the college football postseason," Weich wrote, including asking the Federal Trade Commission to review the legality of the BCS under consumer protection laws.

Several lawmakers and many critics want the BCS to switch to a playoff system, rather than the ratings system it uses to determine the teams that play in the championship game.

"The administration shares your belief that the current lack of a college football national championship playoff with respect to the highest division of college football ... raises important questions affecting millions of fans, colleges and universities, players and other interested parties," Weich wrote.

Weich made note of the fact that President Barack Obama, before he was sworn in, had stated his preference for a playoff system. In 2008, Obama said he was going to "to throw my weight around a little bit" to nudge college football toward a playoff system, a point that Hatch stressed when he urged Obama last fall to ask the department to investigate the BCS.

Weich said that other options include encouraging the NCAA to take control of the college football postseason; asking a governmental or non-governmental commission to review the costs, benefits and feasibility of a playoff system; and legislative efforts aimed at prompting a switch to a playoff system.

Weich noted that several undefeated teams have not had a chance to play for the national championship, including TCU and Boise State this year and Utah last year.

"This seemingly discriminatory action with regard to revenues and access have raised questions regarding whether the BCS potentially runs afoul of the nation's antitrust laws," he wrote.

Hatch, a Utah Republican, was steamed that his home state team was deprived of getting a chance to play for the title last year.

"I'm encouraged by the administration's response," he said in a statement. "I continue to believe there are antitrust issues the administration should explore, but I'm heartened by its willingness to consider alternative approaches to confront the tremendous inequities in the BCS that favor one set of schools over others. The current system runs counter to basic fairness that every family tries to instill in their children from the day they are born."

Under the BCS, the champions of six conference have automatic bids to play in top-tier bowl games, while the other conferences don't. Those six conferences also receive more money than the other conferences, although the BCS announced this week that the ones that don't have automatic bids will receive a record $24 million from this year's bowl games.

"This letter is nothing new and if the Justice Department thought there was a case to be made, they likely would have made it already," BCS executive director Bill Hancock said in a released statement.

"There is much less to this letter than meets the eye. The White House knows that with all the serious issues facing the country, the last thing they should do is increase the deficit by spending money to investigate how the college football playoffs are played," the statement continued. "With all due respect to Senator Hatch, he is overstating this importance of the letter he received from the Office of Legislative Affairs."

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report

StoopTroup
1/30/2010, 03:24 PM
Barney Franks is being investigated for jock sniffing I heard.

Eielson
1/30/2010, 03:31 PM
This is Obama's way of trying to make up for his lack of ability as a basketball player, or any sport for that matter. I enjoy watching him try to throw a baseball.

OU-HSV
1/30/2010, 03:54 PM
This is Obama's way of trying to make up for his lack of ability as a basketball player, or any sport for that matter. I enjoy watching him try to throw a baseball.

:D

Sooner04
1/30/2010, 05:22 PM
If Obama gets us a playoff I'll vote for him in 2012. I've stated that since day one.

westcoast_sooner
1/30/2010, 06:01 PM
IMO, the federal government has NO BUSINESS in the middle of this. This is simply another way they want to assert control over everyone. My feeling is that a playoff will happen, but it should happen as a result of free market economics, not big government involvement.

XingTheRubicon
1/30/2010, 06:05 PM
Everyone would miss the current system if we ever got a playoff.


Because of the current setup OU/texas feels like impromtu blow job or a hernia operation.

Eielson
1/30/2010, 06:17 PM
How many times have we not had a legit national champion since the BCS was established? Despite all the complaining, it's done it's job. Regardless, it's not his job to fix this. Although, I guess the less time Obama spends on the economy the better.

auto
1/30/2010, 06:23 PM
Sweet, if that dumbass is concentrating on football, that will keep the socialists from my cash.:D

Collier11
1/30/2010, 06:30 PM
How many times have we not had a legit national champion since the BCS was established?.

Well look at who has played in the title games, they havent even gotten that right by alot of peoples opinions

2000 there was a lot of dispute over Miami or Florida state being in the title game

2001- Nebraska gets in over oregon

03- Many argued that OU shouldnt have been in the game over usc

04- Many argued that Auburn shouldve been in the game

07- Many argued that it shoulda been a Mich-Ohio state rematch

08- The OU/texas fiasco

Eielson
1/30/2010, 06:35 PM
2000 there was a lot of dispute over Miami or Florida state being in the title game

We all knew who the best team was even before the game happened. ;)


2001- Nebraska gets in over oregon

Miami would've beat down whoever they played.


03- Many argued that OU shouldnt have been in the game over usc

It's the only questionable one for me, but the argument was USC in for LSU, not OU.


04- Many argued that Auburn shouldve been in the game

USC would've beat them down also.


07- Many argued that it shoulda been a Mich-Ohio state rematch

Thank God for the BCS straightening that out.


08- The OU/texas fiasco

We all know who the better team was. ;)

Collier11
1/30/2010, 06:39 PM
My point isnt who was ultimately the best team as the best team won most of those games, my point is that they often didnt even get a legit #2 in the game

ouduckhunter
1/30/2010, 06:45 PM
If the government gets involved, athletic departments will be scurrying around to find flag football belts, and they'll be recruiting from intramural teams. :(

sooneredaco
1/30/2010, 07:22 PM
Hey that a great way to put us further in the red as a country! Spend more of my money on a cause that will do zero to help out the everyday citizen of this country! Way to go Pres!!!

Well let's just hope he's one and done! He'll do plenty of damage in 4 years.

OU-HSV
1/30/2010, 07:27 PM
IMO, the federal government has NO BUSINESS in the middle of this. This is simply another way they want to assert control over everyone. My feeling is that a playoff will happen, but it should happen as a result of free market economics, not big government involvement.

Exactly, I'm for a playoff system, but I'm against cancelling the BCS as a whole. I say keep the BCS, tweak it however it may need tweaked (if it needs tweaked)...add a playoff system while still using the BCS as the main poll factor.

It would be better to have the 11th place team or whatever place team upset thinking they deserved to be in a playoff game, than it is to have a few undefeated (or one loss) teams who (sometimes rightfully so) feel shafted (nearly) every year.

But the bottom line is we don't need the government involved in it. They have more important things they OUGHT to be trying to fix.

Leroy Lizard
1/30/2010, 08:05 PM
If the Feds come in, we'll get what we don't want, just like with everything else they screw up.

Be careful what you wish for, especially with government agencies.

JLEW1818
1/30/2010, 08:06 PM
Obama is a joke

go spend some more money bitch

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 08:47 PM
Obama is a joke

go spend some more money bitch

Best post you've ever made. ;) :D

OKC-SLC
1/30/2010, 09:10 PM
maybe if Obama keeps f***ing around and trying different things out, he'll eventually find something he isn't absolutely horrible at.

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:11 PM
He cant even get the being the 1st black prez part right, he only got half of it right :eek:

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:15 PM
boner

JLEW1818
1/30/2010, 09:17 PM
how the hell does that get deleted??? is he not "spending" money to research this problem????????????????????????????????

Frozen, what them Bama peoples doing to you :D

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 09:19 PM
Obama sucks at life, and at football. Football related enough?

Oh wait...the BCS rocks!

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:19 PM
Yea he isnt very good at anything he does so far, except sucking

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:20 PM
This is a massively bad idea. It was a massively bad idea when Orrin Hatch proposed Congress look into it, it's a massively idea for President Obama to get involved.

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 09:21 PM
When have we ever had to stick to the topic?

Someone's angling for a job in the administration.

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:22 PM
Much better

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:22 PM
When it's in the Football forum, then it discusses Football. Politics is not and has never been allowed in the Football forum. The thread is now moved to the appropriate forum and all posts undeleted, because I now see that the topic cannot be discussed without some bringing in extraneous issues. Have fun!

Leroy Lizard
1/30/2010, 09:23 PM
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Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:24 PM
Caveman Angry! ;)

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:24 PM
deleted

Post of the year, right there.

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:25 PM
Caveman Angry! ;)

Heh. I've been doing research all day, so I'm a little grumpy, yeah. :D

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:27 PM
Have a beer...or 18

JLEW1818
1/30/2010, 09:32 PM
finally found u guys

Collier11
1/30/2010, 09:33 PM
Dammit

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:33 PM
That sounds like a hell of an idea, collier. In fact, I'm droppin' a little green your way for it, opening up a bottle of Sierra Nevada, and getting to work typing stuff up.

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 09:34 PM
Typing stuff?

I thought that's what wimmins were for? :D

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:36 PM
Unfortunately, the wimmon has her own to type up and made better grades than me last semester.

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 09:37 PM
Unfortunately, the wimmon has her own to type up and made better grades than me last semester.

Ouch, you should just quit. :D

Frozen Sooner
1/30/2010, 09:38 PM
Hey, mine weren't bad, hers were just better.

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 09:40 PM
It's OK, I think women are actually smarter than men for the most part. I think they just learn, at least some of them, to let us think we're smarter. A woman that goes to law school prolly doesn't buy into that though. ;) :D

GKeeper316
1/30/2010, 11:40 PM
IMO, the federal government has NO BUSINESS in the middle of this. This is simply another way they want to assert control over everyone. My feeling is that a playoff will happen, but it should happen as a result of free market economics, not big government involvement.

unless you look at the FACTS.

like the fact that the overwhelming majority of these colleges and universities are government agencies and are bound by all the rules that go along with accepting federal tax dollars.

then theres the fact that the BCS, does, in fact, violate federal anti-trust laws by giving an unfair advantage to the BCS Conferenceswhile schools like Utah and yes, even Boise State field teams that may or may not be just as talented (and judging by the non BCS schools' record in BCS bowl games they are) and get left out on a fair share of all the money due to no fault of thier own.

im really starting to believe that people in america no longer have any clue what the role of government is anymore.

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 11:51 PM
unless you look at the FACTS.

like the fact that the overwhelming majority of these colleges and universities are government agencies and are bound by all the rules that go along with accepting federal tax dollars.

then theres the fact that the BCS, does, in fact, violate federal anti-trust laws by giving an unfair advantage to the BCS Conferenceswhile schools like Utah and yes, even Boise State field teams that may or may not be just as talented (and judging by the non BCS schools' record in BCS bowl games they are) and get left out on a fair share of all the money due to no fault of thier own.

im really starting to believe that people in america no longer have any clue what the role of government is anymore.

You can't seriously believe government's role is to f*ck up college football like it has most everything else?

Curly Bill
1/30/2010, 11:58 PM
...and besides, just because there are things governemnt can do, does not mean that it should do them.