Senior Bowl Notes

[stoops the eternal pimp]

So, the Jags are gonna take Tebow so that they can sell tickets huh?

Tebow looked horrible today in 7 on 7 drills, under center fumbled 3 snaps in a row and looks terrible dropping back..

Terrence Cody showed up looking like he ate Andre Smith....370 lbs

The star of the 1st day...Boise St Kyle Wilson

[tommieharris91]

Has Tebow ever taken a snap under center in his life?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Chris Brown measured out at 5'10, 202

Wisconsin DE Schofield I believe tore his ACL today...terrible

Tebow was 6'2ish and 236

Taylor Mays 6'3 231
Zac Robinson 6'2 210

[OU-HSV]

Step where you getting this info? Are you a "insider" member on espn? Cause I tried to read about it a bit ago and figured out I had to be a member. Guess it's like the hair club or something

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Has Tebow ever taken a snap under center in his life?

doesnt look like it...takes snaps like a 4th grader

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Step where you getting this info? Are you a "insider" member on espn? Cause I tried to read about it a bit ago and figured out I had to be a member. Guess it's like the hair club or something

I've got 2 friends there in Mobile...I'll see if I can get a site for ya though..I'm sure its somewhere

And I wouldn't give ESPN a dime for their draft coverage

[OU-HSV]

Cool thanks. All I saw on espn.com was their teaser headline "Tebow Struggles in first day of senior bowl practice". I couldn't believe ESPN actually posted that much even.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Gilyard from Cincy was catching passes like adron tennell

[Sooner04]

Gilyard from Cincy was catching passes like adron tennell
Like Adron Tennell in practice or like Adron Tennell in a game?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Cool thanks. All I saw on espn.com was their teaser headline "Tebow Struggles in first day of senior bowl practice". I couldn't believe ESPN actually posted that much even.

Steve Martin, the guy who I worked with and am talking with, worked with Kiper in his pre "Superstar Mel" days when he actually used to do his own research...I trust Steve a lot

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Like Adron Tennell in practice or like Adron Tennell in a game?

game

[OU-HSV]

Steve Martin, the guy who I worked with and am talking with, worked with Kiper in his pre "Superstar Mel" days when he actually used to do his own research...I trust Steve a lot

Hard to trust a comedian though isn't it? Oh wait we're talking about a different Steve Martin ;) :D

[stoops the eternal pimp]

yeah...This Steve was tragically born without a personality

[OU-HSV]

Haha. Sounds like he has a nice job though...if he scouts for a living

[stoops the eternal pimp]

a diddy on Chris Brown


Spent most of the day as a receiver out of the backfield more so than running the football. This catered to his apparent strengths as Brown was a natural checkdown option for whatever quarterback was under center.

[DakotaSooner]

game

Man, we were plagued with dropped balls all year long.......poor Tennell

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Haha. Sounds like he has a nice job though...if he scouts for a living

One of the things we focused on was getting the names out of the small school guys and eventually got into getting them workouts and hooked some up with agents...

I was actually in on the early stages of getting Tarvaris Jackson's workouts getting set up....your welcome viking fans

[Collier11]

Thanks for the info STEP, keep it coming

[Sooner04]

I was actually in on the early stages of getting Tarvaris Jackson's workouts getting set up....your welcome viking fans
why i oughta........

[OU-HSV]

One of the things we focused on was getting the names out of the small school guys and eventually got into getting them workouts and hooked some up with agents...

I was actually in on the early stages of getting Tarvaris Jackson's workouts getting set up....your welcome viking fans

Interesting. I appreciate the info....however the Vikings could do without Travaris :D (well maybe not, with Favre wobbling once again, Childress may decide to put his old main man Travaris back in if Favre retires)
Seems like I've read some of your informative posts on here around the combine time in past years now that I think about it.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Sounds like the quarterbacks collectively blew chunks today...Tony Pike needs about 25 lbs from Terrence Cody...Lefevour from CM couldn't throw a spiral at all..

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Interesting. I appreciate the info....however the Vikings could do without Travaris :D (well maybe not, with Favre wobbling once again, Childress may decide to put his old main man Travaris back in if Favre retires)

Well the SWAC conference was a part of my responsiblity and he made me look like a genius when it counted...in the workouts..

What they do after that has nothing to do with me:D

[Collier11]

Say what you will but Jackson did go 9-7 and make the playoffs as a starter

[stoops the eternal pimp]

he's a good kid too...

[tommieharris91]

Say what you will but Jackson did go 9-7 and make the playoffs as a starter

Here's Tarvaris Jackson's 2007:

G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
12 294 171 58.2 24.5 1,911 6.5 159.2 9 3.1 12 4.1 71 15 4 19 70 70.8

Budding SUPERSTAR.

[tommieharris91]

To compare, here's Mark Sanchez's 2009:


G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
15 364 196 53.8 24.3 2,444 6.7 162.9 12 3.3 20 5.5 65T 34 8 26 195 63.0

Can I also add that I hate the code tags on this board?

[swardboy]

Man, I'm so lucky to have the NFL channel. It's covering the practices in Mobile. Didn't see Tebow, but Pike looked real good from what little I watched.

[OU_Sooners75]

Has Tebow ever taken a snap under center in his life?

From all reports, he is still a virgin, so he does not like to go under center. :eek:

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Man, I'm so lucky to have the NFL channel. It's covering the practices in Mobile. Didn't see Tebow, but Pike looked real good from what little I watched.

Yeah Tony looked good at first but he faded away down the stretch

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Terrence Cody weigh in

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3965/codyweighinjpgc4f70056a.jpg

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Stephen Holder of the St. Petersburg Times: "I'm on the sideline at the Senior Bowl practice and let's just say Tim Tebow is not exactly lighting it up. Horrible mechanics and accuracy."



Chris Mortensen on Twitter: "First impression from NFL folks on Tebow at Senior Bowl -- it is indeed going to be a challenging process for him."
.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

The NFL guys are pissed at Taylor Mays for trying to destroy the smallish WR from The Citadel yesterday...they know he can hit, they wonder if he can catch(only 5 career INTs)

[badger]

NP is gonna hog the main TV with Mass Effect 2 tonight. Please keep the updates coming!

If Teebz is really that committed to being an NFL quarterback, he should have been doing nothing but practicing taking snaps from under center.

... from Urban Meyer (sorry, couldn't resist)

[goingoneight]

He had four spring, summers and fall camps healthy to learn how to be a real quarterback. I say congrats to him for what he did in college, but I never thought he was some force to be reckoned with.

That's why I like Wilson and Heupel running our offense. We don't go fagging it up just because a guy has a bad day at the office. They train OUr QBs in professional-style sets. Sam, Landry and even PT are lightyears ahead of Tebow in the mechanics department.

[SoCal]

I just watched the complete one hour show/practice that the NFL Network aired. I thought the coverage was good on what drills they showed on the field, but it so incomplete and really edited. I wanted to see the whole practice and no interviews from people not involved with the NFL or College football that I've never heard of give their opinions. They showed about 15 minutes of drills with the rest of the time dominated by commercials and meaningless bs. Does anyone no how to complain to the NFL Network?

[Soonermagik]

Terrence Cody weigh in

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3965/codyweighinjpgc4f70056a.jpg

He just looks nasty and out of shape. The NFL wants bigger guys, but not out of shape pigs. That guy better figure his diet and conditioning out quick if he wants to be ready for the combine.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I just watched the complete one hour show/practice that the NFL Network aired. I thought the coverage was good on what drills they showed on the field, but it so incomplete and really edited. I wanted to see the whole practice and no interviews from people not involved with the NFL or College football that I've never heard of give their opinions. They showed about 15 minutes of drills with the rest of the time dominated by commercials and meaningless bs. Does anyone no how to complain to the NFL Network?

Its pointless...They edit it so much that its hard to really tell whats going on...

my complaining about them is what got my pass to the combine revoked

[stoops the eternal pimp]

He just looks nasty and out of shape. The NFL wants bigger guys, but not out of shape pigs. That guy better figure his diet and conditioning out quick if he wants to be ready for the combine.

He couldn barely get down into a stance..and he put on 15 lbs since the NC game

[Soonermagik]

He couldn barely get down into a stance..and he put on 15 lbs since the NC game

That's really sad. He's sorely mistaken if he thinks this is going to be like the college game. The NFL is a business and the guys he's going up against are in tremendous shape. They see working out as part of the way to keep their job, which in turn keeps their family fed. In college, guys were a push-over to him, but that won't be the case at the next level.

Also, Tim Tebow as a quarter back at the next level just won't happen. He has horrible mechanics. Tim's game is running the ball and operating an offense that's built around him. A lot of these kids are going to be surprised how different the NFL is. That's not to say that Tim couldn't be a solid Tight-end, linebacker or do well at the fullback position in time. I know he's heard it a thousand times, but not without cause. He was a great college QB, but those days have come and gone.

[rawlingsHOH]

That just ain't right.

[homerSimpsonsBrain]

Terrence Cody weigh in

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3965/codyweighinjpgc4f70056a.jpg

Man. I think he's out of breath at the weigh-in.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Sean Witherspoon from Mizzou has been practicing hard as lot of NFLers have varying views about how good he actually is...So far, seems to be around the ball a lot

Denario Alexander from Mizzou, the 6-4 221 lb WR, hasn't impressed scouts since his height and weight were measured...slow off hte LoS and doesn't use his body like he should...doesnt look like a guy who just had a 100 reception season

Marty Gilyard(who we are familiar with) is showing burst off the LoS but is skillet handing balls again today...with his size, he has got to show he can catch the ball

[stoops the eternal pimp]

The Notre Dame Olinemen have definitely stunk it up today...One guy said he saw more talented players from the no name schools last week during the Shrine game than what he has seen from the ND linemen

[Collier11]

How is Chijoke looking?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

If your a Dallas Cowboys fan, the name you may be hearing a lot is Idaho Olineman Mike Lupati...The guy can play every position on the line and the Cowboy personnel there are all about him...very impressive so far

[stoops the eternal pimp]

How is Chijoke looking?

greatest corner ever

[Collier11]

I hear he ran a 3.97 40yd dash?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

that time was with a high ankle sprain

[Collier11]

Is Brian Jackson there?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Nope..he wasn't invited which is why he played in the Shrine game last week

[Collier11]

Ah, I didnt watch last week, how did he do?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

btw, I was thinking 4th round or so after the season for BJ, but I was told it was closer to 6th before the Shrine game...but after the week of practice, he played himself down into the 5th

He showed exactly what I thought about him..he measured at 6' 200lbs, which was good....he played the physical style of corner that the league likes, able to come up and run some man press, bump and run....

[silverwheels]

Apparently Tebow has strep throat, so that must explain why he hasn't played that well so far.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

here is the info on Jackson I posted collier



It’s obvious watching Oklahoma cornerback Brian Jackson live that he simply doesn’t have the type of quick-twitch ability to close on the football in off-coverage. He’s a tall, long-armed kid who’s at his best when he’s able to get his hands on receivers, and he once again was consistently able to win his one-on-one matchups whenever he was asked to press off the line. He showcases good physicality and really knows how to reroute receivers. Jackson might not be the most efficient corner in space, but there is a place for him in the NFL because of his bump-and-run ability

[Collier11]

Yea, he may not be the most hyped guy ever but he did shut down every big time receiver he faced this yr

[Collier11]

Hey STEP, I am pretty certain I know the answer but here is the question

Based on the early issues Tebow is having with drop backs and handling the snaps, poor technique, etc... I hear scouts saying late round talent, so the fact that he is being projected late 1st-2nd round is simply because of the name Tim Tebow?

Do you think teams will eventually chicken out, right so, or do you think he will be drafted high based on that name?

[badger]

Man. I think he's out of breath at the weigh-in.

Tim Tebow's outta shirt too:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/01/0125_tim_tebow_4.jpg

[Widescreen]

Which one is Tebow?

;)

[EstablishedSooner1967]

How to get your coach fired... The Jacksonville Jaguars select.. TIM TEBOW University of Florida.
8 months later... Jaguars 0-14 sorry Coach you are out you did not run the Wildcat every play and the all important jump pass! Your fired!

[OK2U]

Chris Brown of Oklahoma struggled with the footwork drills, twice knocking over cones that nobody else touched. He did look very good running routes and catching the ball with his hands, however.
http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_twelfthwriter/51/20100125/monday_senior_bowl_notes/

[JLEW1818]

STEP, any info on Colt McCoy??? i wanna see what his actual height is

[Collier11]

Yea Jlew, Shipley has broken up with Colt, you are free to pursue him if you want

[stoops the eternal pimp]

STEP, any info on Colt McCoy??? i wanna see what his actual height is

No Colt McCoy

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Hey STEP, I am pretty certain I know the answer but here is the question

Based on the early issues Tebow is having with drop backs and handling the snaps, poor technique, etc... I hear scouts saying late round talent, so the fact that he is being projected late 1st-2nd round is simply because of the name Tim Tebow?

Do you think teams will eventually chicken out, right so, or do you think he will be drafted high based on that name?

I think he is a late (5th round or later) no matter what...When I've read posters mention the Jags taking him just to sell tickets, I think they are nuts...

[Widescreen]

Only the Jags could even possibly have this motivation. Can you imagine any other owner spending big bucks on Tebow knowing he probably won't pan out (OK, maybe Al Davis, but he's insane).

[stoops the eternal pimp]

He doesnt have enough arm for Al Davis...

[silverwheels]

Tebow's not going to put butts in the seats after the Jaguars have moved to Los Angeles.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

exactly...that franchise is not gonna make it much longer no matter what

[Collier11]

This isnt college, NFL fans wont flock to see Saint Tebow and if they do it will be for a cpl of games only.

[JLEW1818]

Talent wise, i never thought he was a first 3 rounder...

i just read about the "Tebow Jacksonville theory"

[Scott D]

I think he is a late (5th round or later) no matter what...When I've read posters mention the Jags taking him just to sell tickets, I think they are nuts...

I heard he could go as early as the 4th, but likely the late 5th to mid 6th.

[Collier11]

I hope for some stupid reason that he is invited to the green room and we have to see him swallow his pride for once as he sits there waiting to be called

[JLEW1818]

The only room he will be in is a confessional

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Well everyone relax...Tim Tebow actually looked like a quarterback today...was able to connect well with Riley Cooper from Florida...still struggled with mechanics but didnt fumble the snaps as much

Taylor Mays may end up like Nic Harris and find himself moving to LB...got burned a lot

Dexter McCluster looked awesome today lining up at WR...he will be a great team looking for a playmaker in the slot

Besides the Olineman from Idaho, another name to remember..Joique Bell of Wayne State RB...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

and Chris Brown is not doing badly, but not doing anything to garner attention..

[stoops the eternal pimp]

On what the Rams may do with their pick


"We were 1-15, so we have a lot of directions we need to go."

- Rams general manager Billy Devaney

[JLEW1818]

I'm so ready for the draft

I think the 1st round Thursday night thing will be good stuff!

[JLEW1818]

On what the Rams may do with their pick

:D :D

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Kyle Wilson from Boise continues to show himself to be the best senior corner available this draft...what a job that staff has done developing this 2 star recruit

[Eielson]

On what the Rams may do with their pick

It's definitely Suh.

[JLEW1818]

It's definitely Suh.

written down. :D

[Collier11]

Kyle Wilson from Boise continues to show himself to be the best senior corner available this draft...what a job that staff has done developing this 2 star recruit

He is a good return man as well as a lock down corner, here is the bus that his brother did up before last season

http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2009/09/03/08/0903-online-wilsonbus1.standalone.prod_affiliate.36.jpg

[starclassic tama]

has anybody found a site that has the height/weights of the players measured? i couldn't find it on ESPN.com

[Collier11]

Possibly here

http://www.seniorbowl.com/

[Collier11]

Risers and sliders, day 2...SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/26/seniorbowl.tuesday/index.html

[stoops the eternal pimp]

According to the Senior Bowl Public Relations Director, the Tim Tebow strep throat reports are false

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Zac Robinson has had a nice couple of days..nothing spectacular but has been able to handle the under center exchange well and made a few nice plays

[stoops the eternal pimp]

http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_twelfthwriter/51/20100125/monday_senior_bowl_notes/

Jeff Risdon...Good guy over there at realgm

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Risers and sliders, day 2...SI.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/26/seniorbowl.tuesday/index.html

SI....I wonder if they missed Gilyard's 7 drops yesterday on catchable balls

[OK2U]

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=444

Tuesday Practice Notes: Surprisingly absent from participating, Brown spent most of the morning/early afternoon watching practice from the sidelines.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Perrish Cox from osu has shown what I have always thought of him...He is a good athlete, but his footwork when he has to turn and run isn't good..too stiff ...

Cox is too stiff

[Boomer.....]

A stiff Cox can get beat.

[Scott D]

According to the Senior Bowl Public Relations Director, the Tim Tebow strep throat reports are false

didn't he get the memo about disrupting the myth?

[JLEW1818]

A stiff Cox can get beat.

:eek:

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Chris Brown tweaked his hamstring...not doing drills

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Oregon TE Ed Dickson has shown himself to be a tough matchup so far..6'4, 245 lb'r probably will end up as some type of H-back

[stoops the eternal pimp]

LeGarrette Blount from UO has had a pretty good week as well..definitely improved his stock this week and the NFL teams have been grilling him about his early season idiot move...Big tough back though

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Marty Gilyard told one of the guys I know that he feels sorry for the guys on the South team playing with Tebow...hilarious

[Leroy Lizard]

Gator fans have a slightly different view. :)

http://forums.gatorsports.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3691038186/m/9051056269

[stoops the eternal pimp]

LOL...college teams and their message board fans

[freshchris05]

lol... blaisdhiaiiGATORiandiiasprodonsnoSWAMPsijsdkfdijij TEBOWGATOR

[Collier11]

LOL...college teams and their message board fans

only tools hang out on message boards

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I really like this Bell kid from Wayne State...reminds me of Jonathan Stewart but perhaps a half a step slower

[Scott D]

Bell got some pub up here earlier this year for breaking the rushing record.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Thats right he is from your neck of the woods...I really like his field vision so far...knows when to make his cuts...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Syd'Quan Thompson from a Cal, a corner we had talked about some on this board when discussing smallish type corners(Hurst) is losing money by the day..He provides little resistance on the LoS and even though can close on a WR, has some bad footwork....

Dan LeFevour, who I personally was cheering for, has struggled from day one..Him and Tebow both look very indecisive in the pocket

[starclassic tama]

legarette blount 6'1 245 that's a big back... brown 5'10 202 decent size, wonder what his 40 time will be? they say brown looks awfully comfortable catching balls out of the backfield, could make him a lot of money. taylor mays 6'3 231, beast. let's see if he really runs in the 4.3's

[stoops the eternal pimp]

legarette blount 6'1 245 that's a big back... brown 5'10 202 decent size, wonder what his 40 time will be? they say brown looks awfully comfortable catching balls out of the backfield, could make him a lot of money. taylor mays 6'3 231, beast. let's see if he really runs in the 4.3's

I don't know how he is looking comfortable catching passes with a tweeked hammy...He looks lean but he needs about 15-20 more lbs....

Mays looks more like a WLB candidate every day...

and with the exception of his **** poor pass blocking, Blount has had a good week

[BoulderSooner79]

LOL...college teams and their message board fans

Yep - they're the worst.

[Scott D]

Syd'Quan Thompson from a Cal, a corner we had talked about some on this board when discussing smallish type corners(Hurst) is losing money by the day..He provides little resistance on the LoS and even though can close on a WR, has some bad footwork....

Dan LeFevour, who I personally was cheering for, has struggled from day one..Him and Tebow both look very indecisive in the pocket

Dan's another victim of the 95+% shotgun offensive system.

[sooneron]

Tim Tebow's outta shirt too:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/01/0125_tim_tebow_4.jpg

This right here should serve notice to any kid that wants to be a qb. Gym rats are rarely, if EVER, good qbs in the pros.
How many future or past HOF'ers are built like underwear models? None. Work on your mechanics and head to be a qb, the rest will come along.

[JLEW1818]

i think u like his body... ;)

[Collier11]

Brady Quinn


























:D

[sooneron]

^ thanks for making my point... :D

[sooneron]

i think u like his body... ;)

Shipley called, he wants to know if you want to go get your highlights done with him tomorrow.

[rawlingsHOH]

I don't know how he is looking comfortable catching passes with a tweeked hammy...He looks lean but he needs about 15-20 more lbs....

Mays looks more like a WLB candidate every day...

and with the exception of his **** poor pass blocking, Blount has had a good week

he looked like a WLB candidate as a freshman at USC.

no WAY is the guy an nfl DB. gets totally trashed by receivers.

[Collier11]

Notes from practice

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/27/senior.bowl.day.3/index.html

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Trevor Lindley has been in a constant slide since day 1..looks too fragile...

Kyle Wilson has definitely supplanted him as the #1 senior corner

[Collier11]

STEP has a boner for Kyle Wilson

[stoops the eternal pimp]

its still just semi right now

[stoops the eternal pimp]

The South Squad, being coached by the Dolphins staff, had Dexter McCluster from Ole Miss run some plays from the wildcat...this guy can do a little bit of everything...

I have really been suprised with Jarrett Brown from West Virginia..probably the strongest arm of any QB at the Senior Bowl

I really like Anthony Dixon from Miss State as well..6' 245 lb RB has some deceptive wheels..

LeGarrett Blount didn't like a hit he took yesterday so how did he respond?..by going and shoving the player after the play was over..

[Collier11]

I always liked McCluster in college and I was just going to ask if Blount had punched anyone yet

[SoonerLB]

One can only hope LeGarrett Blount goes undrafted in order to hasten his acceptance into the penal system. Just sayin' .............

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I always liked McCluster in college and I was just going to ask if Blount had punched anyone yet

McCluster is so darn small but he finds a way to get through the line....I could see him returning some kicks and punts next season

Everybody so far this week has liked Blount with the exception of his pass blocking...normally what he did wouldnt be a big deal except for the fact that HE is the one who did it

[Collier11]

How have these guys looked?

Javier Arenas
Myron Rolle
George Selvie
Ben Tate

What small school guys have earned themselves a draft spot that you can think of?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Bell from Wayne State, runningback
Roberts the WR from the Citadel
Alex Carrington from Arkansas State..I know not necessarily a small school

Myron Rolle looked a little rusty at first but has picked it up as the week went along...i would say 3rd round, possibly 4

Arenas...interesting...the shortest CB there but the heaviest...has looked better than Perrish Cox and the other DBs....He obviously struggles against taller wideouts(Riley Cooper for one) but can play the man press..one guy puts it that he has "little man syndrome"

George Selvie has been,IMO, one the most overrated players I've seen..245 lbs, not strong enough to be a DE...

Ben Tate has been running pretty well and has been one of the better pass blocking RB's this week...The Texans have shown an interest in him

[Collier11]

Cool deal STEP

[Scott D]

My amusing moment of the day is hearing that while he's shown improvement daily, Timothy is still currently the 5th best QB at the Senior Bowl.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

that means possibly about the 8-10 best quarterback available..

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Top 10 players in Senior Bowl

1. Penn State DT Jared Odrick
2. Idaho OG Mike Iupati
3. Mississippi RB/WR Dexter McCluster
4. Boise State CB Kyle Wilson
5. Michigan DE Brandon Graham
6. Oregon TE Ed Dickson
7. Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon
8. Texas Christian LB Daryl Washington
9. Arkansas State DE Alex Carrington
10.Tennessee DT Dan Williams

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Chris Brown hasn't done himself any favors this week..really hasn't shown anything to improve his stock..I know of the tweaked hammy but even in the 1st day, was barely noticed by the NFL people

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Zac Robinson and Perrish Cox have both done pretty well this week...Cox isn' the most fluid DB, but then he goes out and pulls down 2 INTs in 4 plays...


Zac Robinson> Tim Tebow

Couple of quotes A scout sent today on Tebow


Tebow has about the slowest release of any big-time prospect that has come along
and


his low release point that will make it easier for NFL pass rushers to strip the ball and defensive backs to close

[stoops the eternal pimp]

From another scout


Tim Tebow had the worst practice that I have seen with my own two eyes this week. He was horrible. In skeletons, he really struggled with his decision-making and accuracy. The running back ran a basic circle route literally five yards in front, but Tebow actually skipped the ball on the ground and it ended up at John Conner's ankles. This was the worst pass I've ever seen by a college quarterback in my life. Nobody can say Tebow had a good week during practice - just impossible.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Yeah, but that John Conn(o)r guy can take down terminators so Teblow was prolly scared as ****!

[pappy]

What time is the game and is it gonna be on cable or nfl network?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

3 o clock tomorrow..nfl network

[pappy]

thanks

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Ball game started..


Tim Tebow's release is so slow..he just baby armed a pass down the middle

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Bell from Wayne State looks like a NFL back....Taylor Mays just whiffed on a tackle

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One thing Terrence Cody can do is occupy Olineman......

Tony Pike gets a TD called back on holding against Lupati

btw, I don't like Tony Pike as a prospect...does not step into his throws enough

[soonerinkaty]

I dont have the focking NFL network..im counting on you step

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3-0 North...guess who the NFL network wants to talk about?

[soonerinkaty]

ummm...lemme guess....this is tough...Teblow?

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Ben Tate just showed some good balance on a short run

Sean Witherspoon from Mizzou is playing tough on ST

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ummm...lemme guess....this is tough...Teblow?

yup....

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running a lot of college type offense today....I guess they don't want these QBs to look like fools

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in the pocket, he looks awkward, without good feet or balance..

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Sean Witherspoon just did the Gator Chomp at Tebow after the one on one tackle

[soonerinkaty]

BUT HES A GREAT LEADER!!!!!

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no sign of Chris Brown so far

[soonerinkaty]

Sean Witherspoon just did the Gator Chomp at Tebow after the one on one tackle

Great success.

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IMO,

Gilyard and Taylor Mays have played themselves out of the 1st round...One scout for the Eagles told me he has him as the 7th best safety available

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3-3 ball game

LeGarrett Blount in

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Man Tony Pike is too skinny at 6'5 212....

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George Selvie just completely missed Blount behind the line

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This game is so pointless...Most of the scouts go back home on Wednesday and then they are running offenses that don't show what the QB's will be asked to do in the NFL

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illegal blitz penalty called

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nice block by Lupati...Blount with a TD run, 10-3 North

He just showed what our Oline has struggle with not just this year but years past...he chipped off the DT and got a great block on the linebacker..

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South goes to the wildcat with McCluster.....he is fast but not difficult to take down..

Jarrett Brown now in at QB....the best looking QB there this week..I've been surprised...

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Stefan Johnson now in at RB....good looking back...should be the biggest story of the week

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Patrick Robinson, the db from Florida State, costs himself money every time he steps on the field...horrible technique

[SoonerMom2]

My amusing moment of the day is hearing that while he's shown improvement daily, Timothy is still currently the 5th best QB at the Senior Bowl.

I wanted to throw up at the coverage of Tebow -- they made it sound like he was the ONLY person there. My hope is if he gets in an NFL game, it is against the Bears and Tommy Harris levels him!

[Collier11]

No, the best moment of the week was when Arkansas played some other bad SEC team and Arkys PG was riling up his players in the timeout huddle and the announcer stated "that was a Tim Tebow moment right there folks" Some of this stuff just makes me want to hit somebody, seriously Tebow is not the first player to ever play with emotion in the history of college sports

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Sean Canfield now at QB...has looked like Graham Harrell did last year in this game...not the strongest arm out there...

I would assume Chris Brown is not gonna play

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Jarrett Brown with a big pass to Roberts from Citadel...reminds me of Donavan McNabb

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Brandon Graham from Michigan is playing well in this game and had a great week....Big physical DE can pass rush and stop the run..a 10.9 100 meter runner in high school

and Sean Witherspoon from Mizzou has looked better this week than he did all season

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17-6 North

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canfield with a nice rollout pass to Dickson from Oregon TE.....

George Selvie horribly out of position

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Canfield throwing to the defense..Taylor Mays with the INT...terrible throw

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Zac Robinson 1st play a 37 yard pass...not a great pass but he completed it

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and nearly gets the 2nd pass INTd

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Zac Robinson another big pass

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Zac Robinson TD pass....

17-13 North lead

[SoonerMom2]

How did Oklahoma's Chris Brown end up on the north roster along with a player from TCU and Okie State is on the south roster? How do they choose who is north or south?

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it really doesn't have much to do with where they are from and just how they divide up the team when they get there..some players dont show up last second, and they want an even amount of each position on each team

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I was about to say Z Rob could end up MVP of this game and then he fumbles one away

[soonerinkaty]

Do you think he earned himself a paycheck?

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I think Robinson will get drafted...probably a late 6th or 7th....but he has looked good at times during the week and then today.....

[Collier11]

I always saw Zac as a WR but maybe I was way wrong

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No, he isn't that type of athlete....

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LaGarrett BLount has had an overall good week...tough runner between the tackles

[Collier11]

Good jab

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tebow out of the shotgun...pretty good...conventional offense..not so much

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I've got some pretty good draft rumors coming out of this week..probably make a separate thread about it later

[Collier11]

Tebow...more like Teblow, he he

[Collier11]

I've got some pretty good draft rumors coming out of this week..probably make a separate thread about it later

Let er rip

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fumble by Tebow on a designed run play...wasnt much of a swipe at the football

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A friend at the service rode down to the senior bowl with 3 scouts and got some good rumor juice...mostly involving the Lions and Rams who were the coaching staffs down there...

Gilyard just beat Arenas for a TD...glad he caught something

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Corey Chevious...I can barely understand him when he talks

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Tebow..another fumble

[colleyvillesooner]

Another tumble by Teblow. So slow on that release.

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Tebow on 2 play action pass plays under the center just looked terrible...

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Another tumble by Teblow. So slow on that release.

whats bad is he has slowed it down more this week to get his passes more under control on classic drop back pass plays....

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nice effort by Bell out of Wayne State

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I've been disappointed in Lefevour this week...just hasn't looked sharp in the NFL routes...

Corey Chevious again..I don't understand you

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Z Rob has been the best QB for the south by far

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game over...Brandon Graham, DE from Michigan MVP...

nothing to really gain from this as the game itself is pretty meaningless..

[VA Sooner]

So... did Tebow hurt his draft stock by participating?

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Not really I don't think..just the fact he showed up and participated will earn him some brownie points...his performance this week wasn't a surprise to the NFL people

[Collier11]

I think the one thing that can be said on Tebows behalf is that it seemed obvious he was trying too hard to not make mistakes and it inhibited his play, I doubt the scouts will care at all how he played in the game

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yeah, nobody cares about the game itself.....like I said, 99 percent of the scouts headed back home wednesday...

[OU-HSV]

To me, Tebow sucked in this game. His mechanics looked absolutely terrible...and that fumble on his designed run play was bad. I mean that's where his strong point is supposed to be, running, and he fumbled it. But props for him showing up for the week and the game. He didn't have to, he could've tried to see how far his hype could get him.

Lefeavor and Zac Robinson where the most impressive QBs IMO. Gilyard is a stud, I bet someone will draft him higher than most think.
And Tate and Blount looked like the most solid RBs out there. And Dexter is freakin fast.

STEP, did I miss something, why did Chris Brown not play?? Or did he and I was blind?

[Collier11]

Brown had a bad hammy I think

I have always liked Tate as far as college went

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To me, Tebow sucked in this game. His mechanics looked absolutely terrible...and that fumble on his designed run play was bad. I mean that's where his strong point is supposed to be, running, and he fumbled it. But props for him showing up for the week and the game. He didn't have to, he could've tried to see how far his hype could get him.

Lefeavor and Zac Robinson where the most impressive QBs IMO. Gilyard is a stud, I bet someone will draft him higher than most think.
And Tate and Blount looked like the most solid RBs out there. And Dexter is freakin fast.

STEP, did I miss something, why did Chris Brown not play?? Or did he and I was blind?



tweaked hammy for Brown..DNP

Gilyard had a good game but had horrible practices/workouts which is really what counted..dropped 7 catchable balls in one practice...

LeFevour is another guy that had a pretty poor week... Robinson had a pretty good week though and probably improved his stock ...

[Crucifax Autumn]

I missed it I guess, but did teblow's passes continue to look like an overweight duck with a wink cut off and toothpicks jammed in its eyes?

Sometimes when that dude throws a pass it looks like a toddler girl trying to thow a shot put.

[OU-HSV]

tweaked hammy for Brown..DNP

Gilyard had a good game but had horrible practices/workouts which is really what counted..dropped 7 catchable balls in one practice...

LeFevour is another guy that had a pretty poor week... Robinson had a pretty good week though and probably improved his stock ...

I remember reading your updates, that sucks that Gilyard and LeFevour had bad practices...a buddy and I were talking the other day about how we think LeFevour could be the next Joe Flacco. I think he's good.

What is your scout buddy's projection draft wise for Zac?

[OU-HSV]

I missed it I guess, but did teblow's passes continue to look like an overweight duck with a wink cut off and toothpicks jammed in its eyes?

Sometimes when that dude throws a pass it looks like a toddler girl trying to thow a shot put.

This is exactly what it was like, a toddler girl throwing a shot put. He looked so damn odd on his pullback and release it looked really terrible. Just really slow and drawn out form/mechanics, exactly what the NFL people say they're concerned with from what I've seen on tv and read. I still say an NFL team would be crazy to draft him as a QB. Maybe a later round Fullback or Tightend of some sort, but a QB?? I don't think so.

[Scott D]

I've heard speculation that he's too slow for H Back.

[budbarrybob]

No, the best moment of the week was when Arkansas played some other bad SEC team and Arkys PG was riling up his players in the timeout huddle and the announcer stated "that was a Tim Tebow moment right there folks" Some of this stuff just makes me want to hit somebody, seriously Tebow is not the first player to ever play with emotion in the history of college sports

One of the most "emotional" amping up of a huddle I've ever seen was when (edit: Dan Cody) passed out trying to pump up the defense.

[Collier11]

That was Dan Cody but yea, that was crazy

[yankee]

pat white 2.0 (the NFL version, and a much bigger version at that)...that's what i think tebow's fate will be. a trick play/wildcat QB...

[Collier11]

except that TT isnt that fast

[budbarrybob]

That was Dan Cody but yea, that was crazy

Thx for the correction ;)

[RedstickSooner]

I've heard speculation that he's too slow for H Back.

Maybe he'd make a decent LB? I dunno. Too small for a tight end, I would think.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Tebow And The CFL: A Match Made In Inevitable, Inevitable Heaven

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2010/01/500x_teblow2.jpg

I'm not saying Tebow's negotiations with the Montreal Alouettes are evidence he will wash out of the draft, then head north to play football. I'm just saying the CFL pays better than the UFL.

Marc Trestman has been a QB coach for eight different NFL teams, so it's no surprise that Tebow has been working with him in advance of the NFL draft. But Trestman currently happens to be the head coach of the CFL's Montreal Alouettes.

As a consequence of their association, the Alouettes' have added Tebow to their "confidential negotiation list," meaning that should he ever join the CFL, they have an exclusive option on his rights.

Now, while this is standard operating procedure, it's fun to speculate on Tebow's future, and extra fun when that future involves flunking out of America altogether. But when you look at it, Montreal would be a perfect fit for him.

First off, they're French-Canadian (read: Catholic) so they're all about that pro-life business. Second, they're reigning Grey Cup champions, and we all know Tebow's at his best when put on an already-successful franchise that runs a shotgun formation against an inferior level of competition. Remove any of those things, and he's powerless. This needs to happen.

[rawlingsHOH]

Maybe he'd make a decent LB? I dunno. Too small for a tight end, I would think.

Yeah, he could add some weight, but definitely not the protype 6-5 260, inline, TE. More of an h-back guy. But I'm not drafting that in the 2nd round!

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I remember reading your updates, that sucks that Gilyard and LeFevour had bad practices...a buddy and I were talking the other day about how we think LeFevour could be the next Joe Flacco. I think he's good.

What is your scout buddy's projection draft wise for Zac?

Robinson is a late pick..6th or 7th...possibly UDFA..

[yankee]

except that TT isnt that fast

as long as you get the point...

[Scott D]

Yeah, he could add some weight, but definitely not the protype 6-5 260, inline, TE. More of an h-back guy. But I'm not drafting that in the 2nd round!

drafting him to be an H-back is the equivalent of drafting Maurice Clarett to be a slot receiver.

[Collier11]

drafting him to be an H-back is the equivalent of drafting Maurice Clarett to be a slot receiver.

The key question is this, if he is moved to H-back I dont know if you would get the full benefit of his warriorness and im not sure he could lead to the best of his ability

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Tebow does not see himself as anything other than a QB and so do the NFL people...If they thought otherwise, he would have practiced at another position some during the week

[Collier11]

Kinda like another delusional ex Heisman winning college QB, Eric Crouch?

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exactly...I don't know if your remember the on air little snip contest he had with Kiper a few months ago when Kiper told him his best chance was at an H back...Tebow didn't like it very much at all

[Collier11]

Kiper may be lazy these days but he still knows a little

[Collier11]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/29/senior.bowl/index.html

[Collier11]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/30/senior.bowl/index.html

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Im a big Joe Webb fan..a guy who realized if he is gonna collect a NFL paycheck it would be at a different position

[Collier11]

Less pride, more hustle

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DeMarcus Granger and Keenan Clayton both were supposed to participate in the Texas vs. The Nation game Saturday but both have been injured.....

[OK2U]

Too bad.
Clayton is slated to participate in the combine, according to ESPN w/:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/10137/nfl-combine-list-dotted-by-big-12-players
RB Chris Brown
OLB Keenan Clayton
TE Brody Eldridge
CB Dominique Franks
TE Jermaine Gresham
CB Brian Jackson
DT Gerald McCoy
T Trent Williams