Dusty D. in trouble again

[SunnySooner]

http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098

He might need to quit drankin...or take some anger mgt. classes. Hate to see crap like this.

NORMAN, Oklahoma – Former Oklahoma defensive tackle and current Chicago Bear Dusty Dvoracek was arrested early Saturday in Norman after an altercation at a bar on Campus Corner.

The altercation occurred at Seven47 Dining and Drinks, and Dvoracek was charged with public intoxication, assault and battery, and interfering with an official process.

According to Seven47 general manager Hunter Mankin, Dvoracek was intoxicated and security asked him to leave and Dvoracek allegedly hit a member of the security team. The situation escalated, which caused Seven47 to call the police, and Dvoracek was escorted out by police.

“Our security was simply just doing their job and Dusty just kind of freaked out,” said Mankin. “Our security would never provoke. I think Dusty’s temper got out of hand.

Dvoracek was drafted by the Chicago Bears with the 73rd overall pick in 2006. He did not play this season after tearing his ACL during the preseason, and has now finished all four years of his NFL career on injured reserve.

Dvoracek played in 49 games for OU and was selected to the All-Big 12 team in 2003 and 2005. In 2004, he was suspended by the Sooners after an alleged assault that resulted in the hospitalization of another man.

The altercation Saturday occurred between Dvoracek and staff members of Seven47. A full police report has not yet been filed.

[okienole3]

Bob's biggest mistake in my opinion. The guy is a bum. Can't wait to see him get cut.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/01/dusty_dvoracek_busted_in_oklah.html


If the charges are true, this is the most hitting he's done in a while.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

And I thought the bears had already cut him

[ocsooner]

I'm not sure that it was a "mistake" by Bob, I think it was a risk that came out on the wrong side. I'm in academics, and I have seen several kids that come in as real punks, but something happens somewhere between being a highschool senior and a college grad. A lot of times it happens late. I'm sure that Bob saw potential in there. Potential doesn't always pan out, but I'm sure it was there.

It's more of a failure on Dusty's part for failing on his potential.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I dont recall him making similar mistakes at OU when bob brought him back..its not like he is his responsibility now

[TahoeSOONER]

That sucks.

Anyone that's tied one on and got stupid will understand.

It's clear though that alcohol and Dusty is not a good mix, it's time for more help DD.

[okienole3]

I dont recall him making similar mistakes at OU when bob brought him back..its not like he is his responsibility now

I guess mistake might not be the best word to describe it. I just disagreed with bob. I realize that henisnt bobs responsibility now and maybe he didn't do it again. But, the story that made the headlines while he was at ou was at least the second if not third incident. He shouldn't have been given another shot to play again. He was not and is not a good representative of the university.

[Leroy Lizard]

Mistake is the right word. Bob had a choice. He thought he made the right choice, but it didn't turn out the way he expected.

[Collier11]

Under Stoops watch it turned out exactly as he expected, at this point it is no longer Stoops responsibility

[stoops the eternal pimp]

so bob gave Dusty another chance at OU and he did it again while he was still in school?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Under Stoops watch it turned out exactly as he expected, at this point it is no longer Stoops responsibility

thats what im trying to say also

[StoopTroup]

I'd hire him as a Muscle for Tailgates. Deans starting to age a bit. :D ;)

[stoops the eternal pimp]

dean can handle his drink tho

[StoopTroup]

We'd probably have to have Dean keep a tazer on him to keep him out of the coolers, bar and the OVJ. :D

[Collier11]

If Dusty D got into the OVJ he would likely turn into a violent version of Teen Wolf mixed with Rumble the Bison

[Sooner04]

Shock of shocks!

[ndpruitt03]

Met him last year in a bar in Weatherford of all places. He's a pretty good guy from when I met him but I guess he needs to control his alcohol.

[Collier11]

He's a pretty good guy from when I meat him

No wonder he was all pissy the other day if NickZepp is "meating" him

[StoopTroup]

Met him last year in a bar in Weatherford of all places. He's a pretty good guy from when I met him but I guess he needs to control his alcohol.

He probably started drinking right after he meated you.

[Blitzkrieg]

dean can handle his drink tho
YEAH, BUT COULDN'T PUNCH HIS WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG;)

[sooner59]

Bob didn't make a mistake because Dusty kept his problems in check for the remainder of his college career. Then he made it to the league and at that point Bob's job was done and it worked out. Now Dusty can deal with it himself like a big boy. This stuff happens all the time in the NFL and rarely does it reflect upon the university. They are just seen as pro players who can't get their s*** together.

[GKeeper316]

http://www.okblitz.com/Article.aspx?id=15098

He might need to quit drankin...or take some anger mgt. classes. Hate to see crap like this.

NORMAN, Oklahoma – Former Oklahoma defensive tackle and current Chicago Bear Dusty Dvoracek was arrested early Saturday in Norman after an altercation at a bar on Campus Corner.

The altercation occurred at Seven47 Dining and Drinks, and Dvoracek was charged with public intoxication, assault and battery, and interfering with an official process.

According to Seven47 general manager Hunter Mankin, Dvoracek was intoxicated and security asked him to leave and Dvoracek allegedly hit a member of the security team. The situation escalated, which caused Seven47 to call the police, and Dvoracek was escorted out by police.

“Our security was simply just doing their job and Dusty just kind of freaked out,” said Mankin. “Our security would never provoke. I think Dusty’s temper got out of hand.

Dvoracek was drafted by the Chicago Bears with the 73rd overall pick in 2006. He did not play this season after tearing his ACL during the preseason, and has now finished all four years of his NFL career on injured reserve.

Dvoracek played in 49 games for OU and was selected to the All-Big 12 team in 2003 and 2005. In 2004, he was suspended by the Sooners after an alleged assault that resulted in the hospitalization of another man.

The altercation Saturday occurred between Dvoracek and staff members of Seven47. A full police report has not yet been filed.

1. whoever writes that **** needs to go back to journalism school. its not an alleged assault. he pled guilty. its just an assault.

2. part of his sentence was anger management. looks like it failed, which, granted, it was bound to. anger management is a lie.

i still blame dusty dvoracek for us getting our asses handed to us by USuC in the ncg. had we had him on the other side of dan cody, we would have actually had a pass rush. no way the condoms would have been able to stop cody and dvoracek imo.

[Soonerus]

Dusty seems to never learn the lesson....

[rainiersooner]

Maybe the bouncer needed to have his *ss handed to him...not like any of us know what happened.

I thought DD did very well for himself after Bob let him back. I don't take a lot of moral umbrage at guys who hit people for a living losing track of where and when they should hit people. I don't think it's cool and I think it should be acted on -- but it doesn't surprise me.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

1. whoever writes that **** needs to go back to journalism school. its not an alleged assault. he pled guilty. its just an assault.

2. part of his sentence was anger management. looks like it failed, which, granted, it was bound to. anger management is a lie.

i still blame dusty dvoracek for us getting our asses handed to us by USuC in the ncg. had we had him on the other side of dan cody, we would have actually had a pass rush. no way the condoms would have been able to stop cody and dvoracek imo.

I blame Matt Leinhart

[GKeeper316]

I blame Matt Leinhart

dan cody + dusty dvoracek = ineffective qb.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

would he have stopped mark bradley from trying to pick up that punt that started the snowball to hell?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Leinart

[Blues1]

Probably a Good thing he wasn't in Chicago and pulling that same stuff - Being arrested and/or Cook County Hospital (Or Worse)
Security in Chicago don't f*** around (Remember thats where MR T started) ~~~ ouch....!!!!

[Leroy Lizard]

2. part of his sentence was anger management. looks like it failed, which, granted, it was bound to. anger management is a lie.

I'm not sure anything you learn in an anger management course works once you get drunk.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

great point....

[Curly Bill]

There are multiple things that don't work once you get drunk. ;)

[Sooner04]

i still blame dusty dvoracek for us getting our asses handed to us by USuC in the ncg. had we had him on the other side of dan cody, we would have actually had a pass rush. no way the condoms would have been able to stop cody and dvoracek imo.
Lee Roy Selmon alongside Tony Casillas wouldn't have saved us that night.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

lol I know..I have to admit, i've seen that loss blamed on a lot of things, but the absense of one player is a first

[Scott D]

I was positive it was the loss of Roy Williams that cost us that game.

What? he left 3 years before that? proves my point even more! ;)

[rawlingsHOH]

I like Dusty, but he needs to quit.

[SoonerLB]

YEAH, BUT COULDN'T PUNCH HIS WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER BAG;)

"..... has just been added to Jimmy Clausen's 'Friends' list on Facebook." ;)

[Collier11]

1. whoever writes that **** needs to go back to journalism school. its not an alleged assault. he pled guilty. its just an assault.


Actually I thought the family decided not to press charges? Correct me if im wrong

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I dont recall him making similar mistakes at OU when bob brought him back..its not like he is his responsibility nowNo shiite. Dusty has a problem with booze, and needs to effing QUIT DRINKING.

[nighttrain12]

This kind of thing happens in every cheap bar in every state every night of the week. Its just the cost of doing business for them.

[GKeeper316]

lol I know..I have to admit, i've seen that loss blamed on a lot of things, but the absense of one player is a first

imo comes down to this.

#1 on the list of things we needed to do in that game was disrupt thier backfield.

all the other **** was mostly a fault of not being able to do that.

bradley screwin up the punt was a 7 point mistake.

[Petro-Sooner]

Dude needs to grow up! Screw'em

[stoops the eternal pimp]

imo comes down to this.

#1 on the list of things we needed to do in that game was disrupt thier backfield.

all the other **** was mostly a fault of not being able to do that.

bradley screwin up the punt was a 7 point mistake.

game was tied at 7 and that playpretty much took all the wind out of the team...I've always felt the guys on the field are more responsible for wins and losses


Dusty was good but not that good

[Leroy Lizard]

Dusty can get as drunk and obnoxious as he wants, but when security gets in his face, it is time to tone the Hell down.

[tkolax]

I was there, DD was asked to leave the bar and he refused and went ballistic. he started fighting all the bouncers which caused more bouncers and bartenders to come to the fight and then his friends jumped in and started fighting the bouncers, it was a good 5-5 brawl. the problem was the bouncers were so much smaller than them that they got their asses kicked. it was not a good situation and DD and his friends really messed up on this one

[GKeeper316]

game was tied at 7 and that playpretty much took all the wind out of the team...I've always felt the guys on the field are more responsible for wins and losses


Dusty was good but not that good

i disagree

i always thought hed emerge as an elite player in the nfl and prove my point, but with 4 season ending injuries in as many years, hes now been waved by the bears and looking at free agency, but not likely to get picked up due the the horrible investment hes been up to this point.

his career's over. this was a bone-headed move to make for a man who's recently unemployed and unable to perform the only job to which he is suited.

on the other hand, this may be the beginning of a great fighting career! whoop that *** dusty!

[GKeeper316]

Now wait just a minute there - our awesome President Obama refers to the scumbag terrorist who 300 other passengers watched attempt to blow up an airplane as "the suspect". I think this journalist just went to the same Political Correctness University that our fantastic president went to.

until convicted in a court of law he is "the suspect". to refer to him as "the guy that definately did it" opens the reporter and whoever he works for up to libel suits, and potentially could be argued by the suspect's attorney that a fair trial isnt possible due to the multitude of media reporting that he did it when no jury has yet said so.

something any first year journalism student should know.

has absolutely nothing at all to do with political correctness.

[GKeeper316]

Actually I thought the family decided not to press charges? Correct me if im wrong

in the state of oklahoma, the decision to prosecute is at the sole discretion of the district attorney, as we consider this type of violent crime an affront to society at large and not the individual.

[badger]

This is not at a very good time for Dusty. If he wants to make an NFL roster next season, the prospective team needs to know that he won't be a problem off-field.

[Collier11]

Dusty can get as drunk and obnoxious as he wants, but when security gets in his face, it is time to tone the Hell down.

not always true, I do like to get drunk from time to time but have never gotten in any trouble, in public or private. I had a security guard with an attitude problem more or less attack me for no reason and because of it, he got fired and arrested. Id be happy to give the details if you want them but anyone who ever went to Al Eshbachs old place on campus would probably understand

[nighttrain12]

I was there, DD was asked to leave the bar and he refused and went ballistic. he started fighting all the bouncers which caused more bouncers and bartenders to come to the fight and then his friends jumped in and started fighting the bouncers, it was a good 5-5 brawl. the problem was the bouncers were so much smaller than them that they got their asses kicked. it was not a good situation and DD and his friends really messed up on this one


Then the bar needs to hire bigger and tougher bouncers. When a place of establishment decides to do business by serving alcohol, these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time and it is up to the bouncers to stop it.

[GKeeper316]

Then the bar needs to hire bigger and tougher bouncers. When a place of establishment decides to do business by serving alcohol, these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time and it is up to the bouncers to stop it.

ya lets blame the bar...

cuz this is america and there's no place for personal responsibility.

[TXBOOMER]

Then the bar needs to hire bigger and tougher bouncers. When a place of establishment decides to do business by serving alcohol, these kinds of things are going to happen from time to time and it is up to the bouncers to stop it.

Heck yes. Hire Dusty!

[badger]

Just posted to NewsOK:
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/822214/medium
:( I almost don't recognize him anymore.

[Curly Bill]

He looks like any other fat guy that lives down the street from ya.







Wait, he doesn't post here right? :eek:

[tkolax]

this wasn't the bars fault, if it was just dusty they had to fight then they probably could have dragged him out side, but his big *** friends jumped into the situation and started fighting the bouncers too. and this is a more up scale bar, its not brothers, its not normal to see fights there.

[Leroy Lizard]

From now on, it will be the bar's fault. "We knew who we was. We let him come inside and drink. He ended up decapitating one of our bouncers."

[Collier11]

this wasn't the bars fault, if it was just dusty they had to fight then they probably could have dragged him out side, but his big *** friends jumped into the situation and started fighting the bouncers too. and this is a more up scale bar, its not brothers, its not normal to see fights there.

Im not sure of your definition of upscale, 747 tries to be the trendier bar on campus but you cant ignore the # of meatheads and underage drunkazzes that they let in on a nightly basis. And for the record before LL poops his pants, my statement has nothing to do with thinking that they were in the wrong, it was a separate statement

[Leroy Lizard]

And for the record before LL poops his pants, my statement has nothing to do with thinking that they were in the wrong, it was a separate statement

Thanks for the warning. I almost let one go there.

[Collier11]

I figured

[nighttrain12]

If you willingly give drugs (which is what alcohol is, it just happens to be legal), then your patrons are going to go nuts from time to time. If you can't handle drugged out (drunk) patrons, then serve soft drinks and milk only. Then you will have a lot less problems with customers. That was my point.

[Leroy Lizard]

Or just carry a cattle prod set to high. I was nailed by one once, and you weren't going to get any disagreement from me afterwards. I'll even agree with StoopTroup's posts if threatened by a Hot Shot. (I'd be wrong, though.)

:D

[Collier11]

When the guy who is beligerant is 300 lbs and a very strong person at that, what do you expect. Most bouncers or security arent even that big and if he decides he wants to be a d*ck, what are they supposed to do?

[Leroy Lizard]

Serve milk and cookies, apparently.

I like to go out and have a few. Why should I give up that pleasure because some idiot can't control his liquor? As far as I'm concerned, the bouncers can pretty much stomp the last ounce of life out of a belligerent drunk and I wouldn't care.

[Curly Bill]

When the guy who is beligerant is 300 lbs and a very strong person at that, what do you expect. Most bouncers or security arent even that big and if he decides he wants to be a d*ck, what are they supposed to do?


.357 magnum?

[Collier11]

Now obviously we dont know the story, the bouncer may have targeted him because of who he is, but based on what weve heard it doesnt sound like that

[Curly Bill]

Serve milk and cookies, apparently.

I like to go out and have a few. Why should I give up that pleasure because some idiot can't control his liquor? As far as I'm concerned, the bouncers can pretty much stomp the last ounce of life out of a belligerent drunk and I wouldn't care.

On this you and I can agree.

[Collier11]

.357 magnum?

I love it when you call me that

[Curly Bill]

I love it when you call me that

Ewwwwww! :O

[Scott D]

We lost that game in January of 2005 because De'Mond Parker left early...true nuff.

[the_ouskull]

this wasn't the bars fault, if it was just dusty they had to fight then they probably could have dragged him out side, but his big *** friends jumped into the situation and started fighting the bouncers too. and this is a more up scale bar, its not brothers, its not normal to see fights there.

"Upscale" on Campus Corner and "upscale," period, are two vastly different things. In a real upscale place, there would have never been a problem because his drinking would have been monitored because they wouldn't have known, or given a f*ck, who he was.

On Campus Corner, in Norman, they do. So, to keep him around, the tendency will/would be to continue serving; just as it would be with anybody else spending money, granted...

But a place with a few fewer video games and wooden tables and a few more collared shirts than t-shirts isn't "upscale," just 'cause it's the nicest bar on Campus Corner... I mean, you wouldn't call the smartest OSU athlete "smart," would you? :D

the_ouskull

[Collier11]

Demond is one of the few guys who have left early and made a mistake that I truly feel bad for, he didnt know what the hell to do with a new coach coming in. If only he had stayed

[Leroy Lizard]

But a place with a few fewer video games

Dude, that phrase "few fewer" is far out.

[okienole3]

Bouncers didn't stand a chance. Word is that another former sooner and NFLer were among those coming to DD's "aid'.

[Leroy Lizard]

Maybe it was the place kicker.

[sooner59]

I can't get over Seven47 being called "upscale". I have been there several times, and everytime was because a girl wanted to go there. I prefer Logans or O'Connells.

I bet those Jersey Shore dudes would fist-pump their *** off at 7, though.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Dude, that phrase "few fewer" is far out.

Far out, solid, and right on!

[RedstickSooner]

Just posted to NewsOK:
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/822214/medium
:( I almost don't recognize him anymore.

He doesn't look like Dusty. Ironically, he *does* look like a bear. Go figure.

I'm really conflicted on this one. I was one of the folks who opposed giving Dusty another chance -- but, frankly, he seemed to use the chance well. Isn't this the first time he's gotten in trouble since being reinstated to our team?

For a hardcore alcoholic, that's a decent stretch of good behavior: So I sorta feel like you could argue it's a good investment on Bob's part. It's a tough call.

[Scott D]

see yermom, it's ok to get a haircut :D


Just posted to NewsOK:
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/822214/medium
:( I almost don't recognize him anymore.

[StoopTroup]

^lol

[MamaMia]

Whens hes not drinking or on the field, Dusty has a heart of gold. He's not a bad person. He just needs to stop drinking.

[goingoneight]

He does need to spend some time in now, though. He had an interview just recently with Al on the Sports Animal where he said he'd been "clean since 05." For someone of his size and with his problem, falling off the wagon is obviously a bad thing. I wonder if this is because of his football career being possibly over since he got injuried again this year? Nevertheless, bad news as usual will in others' slow minds refelct poorly on the several Sam Bradfords who outnumber the Dvoraceks.

[StoopTroup]

If you are a Norman Restaurant and Dusty comes in and starts drinking...should you serve him?

[Collier11]

how much do you need the money and how many friends are with him? :D

[StoopTroup]

how much do you need the money and how many friends are with him? :D

You aren't much of a friend if you serve him till he's drunk in public IMO.

I think lots of folks don't have as big a drinking problem as it seems. I think lots of folks make bad choices when they are drinking.

Example: You can drink and drive out in your Cow Pasture...do donuts...jump your truck over your tractor and nobody cares. If you do it in Bricktown....you are probably gonna end up on the news.

If you drink and you tend to get angry when you drink....you might want to quit drinking until you get a handle on that anger...or...you might want to quit drinking if that's the thing that sends you over the edge when you are around other people.

Anyway...I hope he gets it together.

[Collier11]

Well obviously Stoop I was kidding. If you have a friend who constantly gets beligerant or goes home with shady people or drives regardless of how much they have drank, etc... you wouldnt be much of a friend if you kept taking them out to get drunk

[StoopTroup]

Well obviously Stoop I was kidding. If you have a friend who constantly gets beligerant or goes home with shady people or drives regardless of how much they have drank, etc... you wouldnt be much of a friend if you kept taking them out to get drunk

You're driving then? :D

[Collier11]

dammit

[StoopTroup]

:D

[Collier11]

He is so well versed that he is now trying terrorists in federal court, brilliant! Wait, wrong forum

[soonerloyal]

Wrong in so many ways, but we digress. :rolleyes:

[StoopTroup]

I need a drink. This coffee ain't cuttin' it.

[soonerloyal]

Watch what yer drinkin' now. We don't want any trouble here. ;)


From a linky on Dr. Sat's page: http://twitter.com/Seven47Norman/status/7823555500

[Collier11]

Wrong in so many ways, but we digress. :rolleyes:

how

[StoopTroup]

Watch what yer drinkin' now. We don't want any trouble here. ;)


From a linky on Dr. Sat's page: http://twitter.com/Seven47Norman/status/7823555500

No wonder he got upset.

[Leroy Lizard]

Obama has become the new Hitler. Mention him, and the thread tanks.

[StoopTroup]

qiiicpe_JK8

[Leroy Lizard]

Do you belong to the Lizard of the Month Club?

[StoopTroup]

It's starting to seem like everyone here got a subscription to it from Phil as a Sponsor Gift.

[Leroy Lizard]

I can't think of anything smart-assed to say.

[Collier11]

I havent seen anything or received anything that involved Deans Lizard, thats all you Stoop

[stoops the eternal pimp]

who keeps turning leroy red?

[Collier11]

I think Leroy has something to do with that

[TenkillerSooner]

Obama is an attorney well-versed in Constitutional Law, and as such, he knows what to say and why. Certainly you know his extensive legal and educational background (graduate of Columbia University & Harvard Law School, President of the Harvard Law Review, civil rights attorney, taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School...).


With the impressive background (and it truly is) it's hard to believe that C.I.C. turned out to be the first real job he has ever had. :D

[soonerloyal]

Man, we're starting to need directions tatoo'd and Brailled to South Oval. But you know the old saying about leading horses to water but not being able to make 'em drink...




TO THE SOUTH OVAL:
http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9

[soonerloyal]

Like living with two year olds.

[Rickety_Syd]

When the guy who is beligerant is 300 lbs and a very strong person at that, what do you expect. Most bouncers or security arent even that big and if he decides he wants to be a d*ck, what are they supposed to do?

Call the cops. Lots of them.
And then Batman.

Also, a 30-point loss is not one player's fault. OU reached new levels of suck that night. Dusty D. wouldn't have made much of a difference.

And OU had plenty of time to recover from Bradley's what-the-Eff-are-you-thinking play. But that argument is long dead and its zombie destroyed (hopefully).

[MamaMia]

I guess mistake might not be the best word to describe it. I just disagreed with bob. I realize that henisnt bobs responsibility now and maybe he didn't do it again. But, the story that made the headlines while he was at ou was at least the second if not third incident. He shouldn't have been given another shot to play again. He was not and is not a good representative of the university. Oh? Who came down from Heaven an appointed you Holy Judge and Master? What type of representative of the University of Oklahoma are you? What does "henisnt" mean in your world?

[Leroy Lizard]

Oh? Who came down from Heaven an appointed you Holy Judge and Master? What type of representative of the University of Oklahoma are you? What does "henisnt" mean in your world? Then there's also the matter of your desire to drop f bombs to folks in negs simply because they politely state an opposing view, such as this one...

MamaMia, what's up with this post? First, it's old. Second, his opinion on this matter is pretty reasonable (since it agrees with mine). Did some medicine kick in?

[MamaMia]

MamaMia, what's up with this post? First, it's old. Second, his opinion on this matter is pretty reasonable (since it agrees with mine). Did some medicine kick in?
Why do you want to know?

[Leroy Lizard]

Because I'd like to try some.

[MamaMia]

Because I'd like to try some. Okay. Its called Vitamin C. Maybe its the Rose Hips. :D

[Leroy Lizard]

Awwww man, I would have thought it needed a prescription at very least.

[okienole3]

Oh? Who came down from Heaven an appointed you Holy Judge and Master? What type of representative of the University of Oklahoma are you? What does "henisnt" mean in your world?

Stupid iphone.

Am I not entitled to an opinion. I never said I was perfect, but I have never beaten anyone within an inch of their life. If DD weren't a football player, he would never have been given as many "second" chances has he has been. That's the simple truth.

We disagree. Let's leave it at that.

[Leroy Lizard]

Am I not entitled to an opinion.

Depends on your opinion.

:D

[RedstickSooner]

When Dusty drinks, the terrorists win.

[Leroy Lizard]

That's heavy, man!

[MI Sooner]

"Upscale" on Campus Corner and "upscale," period, are two vastly different things. In a real upscale place, there would have never been a problem because his drinking would have been monitored because they wouldn't have known, or given a f*ck, who he was.

I think this has less to do with anything the establishment does and more with the clientele that goes to upscale places. When the law firm's Christmas party is running up a 5k bar tab at the nicest steak house in town, they're not cutting people off. It's just that those people just talk too loud, grab secretary's asses, or do stuff like that. They generally don't punch people.

[DakotaSooner]

would he have stopped mark bradley from trying to pick up that punt that started the snowball to hell?

Speaking off getting drunk and pulling a DD. That night was indeed, a snowball from hell

[Collier11]

Possibly another side to the story everyone...

Dusty Dvoracek Arrested, Fault Still In Question
by Logan Rogers Bleachereport

As former Oklahoma Sooner and current Chicago Bear defensive tackle Dusty Dvoracek got arrested in a bar brawl outside of a Norman restaurant Jan. 16 on multiple misdemeanor charges, all the reports seem to be barking the same noise.
That Dusty once again got in an alcohol induced "fit", and once again, started unwarranted trouble, ending with the NFL lineman being charged with public intoxication, assault and battery, and interfering with an official process.

That may be a rush to judgement. One that's not completely absurd because of past incidents, but a rush none the less.

The past incident that most recall took place at another Norman bar on Sept. 11, 2004. Dusty and hometown friend Matt Wilde (Lake Dallas, Tx) got in to an argument that ended with Wilde in intensive care at Norman regional.

Though some reports came out after that Dvoracek was physically accosted by Wilde first, Dusty, then team captain was still kicked off the team for the year, and deservedly so even according to Dvoracek, "...I made a mistake, and I'm going to move on from it."

That's just what Dusty did, undergoing anger management and alcohol abuse treatment. Then returning to play the next year (2005), helping the Sooners to an 8-4 record and a Holiday bowl win over the hated Oregon Ducks all while making the Academic all-Big 12 team.

That was the last altercation Dusty was involved in, until a few weeks ago.

Now as the reports and rumors alike fly around, most seem ready to convict the former Sooner star based on his past, and on the one-sided version of what happened that night by the restaurant general manager (both manager and bar shall remain nameless in this article).

The rundown by security and staff that night are that the group that Dvoracek was with, including at least three other men (one was Teddy Lehman, former OU LB) and a few women (one was Dusty's wife), were being "unruly" and had also violated three of the restaurant's policies. The first was Dvoracek laying his head on the table, the second was him "bumping" in to a female patron of the bar, and the third was never named.

So two of the four bouncers present that night walked over to the group and asked them to leave the establishment. Somewhere between there and the door, at least five members of the group began to attack security with "extreme aggression", causing a stand-off that included Dvoracek "huffing and puffing in rage", then went all the way out the door onto Asp avenue, where the battered security crew, who were in over their heads, turned the group over to the police.

But from the accounts of some of the other people that claimed to be there during the altercation, that may not be an accurate account of the events took place that night.

While the manager of the bar has his business to protect, the patrons of the bar have no dog in the fight, and some of them say that the bouncers had been "eyeing" Dusty all night, maybe looking to start something with an NFL player.

Also the report of only two of the bouncers may have been all four, with at least three attacking Dusty first. One even attempting to choke Dvoracek, which is a common move for bouncers. Of all to which received no response from Dusty himself, as a few of the other men in the group to tried to remove the bouncer from around his neck.

At that point is when the actual "fight" broke out, while Dvoracek moved for the door. Most published reports that site the security crew as the ones being assaulted and in a "losing battle", but most accounts of the actual patrons that night are quite the opposite.

According to some of the eyewitnesses, Dusty's own wife was thrown to the ground and received multiple abrasions and bruises. Another member of the Dvoracek party (one of the men) was struck in the face, which may have been "without cause", leaving him with a bloody lip. Yet another man in the group was thrown to the ground and kicked, his eye was swollen shut "almost instantly".

Then where the reports would steer you to believe that the security crew then turned the "unruly group" over to police, they just stood stoically by as the police took it from there. But there are many accounts that the four bouncers actually started to "mock" Dvoracek and his friends, laughing and posturing as if proud of what they did, trying to provoke the group.

The restaurant's actions following may lend to that account to, seeing how the business' first public statement was a Twitter post partly reading, "...see ya Dusty." The smugness does seem a bit palpable. Though the next "official" statement was no where near as crass.

While most of what is out there to read may lend itself towards Dusty being the one totally at fault here, there are other accounts of what happened that early Saturday morning. Which story you want to believe is up to each individual, but at least now, for those who haven't heard, Dusty may have actually been the victim, not the aggressor.

[gaylordfan1]

Very interesting!!!

[Partial Qualifier]

One even attempting to choke Dvoracek, which is a common move for bouncers. Of all to which received no response from Dusty himself, as a few of the other men in the group to tried to remove the bouncer from around his neck.

I picture Dusty swiggin' his beer and asking the waitress for ketchup and extra napkins while all that's going on

from day one, this sounded more like an inept and misguided bouncing crew, than an out-of-control Dusty Dvoracek

[Collier11]

Im not saying it is true in this case but bouncers often have a chip on their shoulder already and I have seen many a bouncer on campus take it too far. Their job is to protect the patrons and the establishment, not be a unnecessary d*ck

[Leroy Lizard]

Garbage article. How hard is this to write? No names. No quotes. No nothing.

[Collier11]

you can call it that all you want and it may well be but if there are patrons willing to attest to this story, the bar may be in trouble

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Garbage article. How hard is this to write? No names. No quotes. No nothing.

Its because its from Bleacher Report, not an actual news source.

[Collier11]

hey, there are some credible people who write for Bleacher Report...like that C11 guy ;)

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I know there is some credible people....but its not a credible source for anything

[stoops the eternal pimp]

And I did not know you loaned your expertise to BR

[Collier11]

sure do, I havent written anything in several months but Ive got 6 or 7 articles over there I believe

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Most of the stuff I have ever read from there isn't something I would put stock in..I've read some good opinions on stuff from a few folks, and a lot of crap from others...
I'll have to look your stuff up to see which category it goes into

[Collier11]

ill send ya a link if I can find it, lol

[KantoSooner]

Dusty, Teddy and two other guys (who likely were not at the 5th percentile or below on ergonomic tables). That's a table you'd have to be pretty stupid to start something with.

[Pricetag]

Are the police reports not public documents? It seems the mocking and whatnot would be easily verified from there. Also, did the police not interview any of the other patrons of the bar? It seems like if someone wanted to write an article like this, it would be easy to get citable sources.

[goingoneight]

I don't know what to think about this second report, but if true... no way would I let a bouncer get away with dotting a woman's eye... you save those hits for the guys, or else the hits you receive in return for the dotted female eyes from their escorts are a lot harder.

[gaylordfan1]

Dusty, Teddy and two other guys (who likely were not at the 5th percentile or below on ergonomic tables). That's a table you'd have to be pretty stupid to start something with.

^this!

[AlbqSooner]

Regardless of which version is accurate, Dusty really has no business drinking. He drinks like I did. One beer is too many and 30 is not enough. Hope he comes to realize this. He did a great job with the rules Stoops laid down and has the capacity to be a helluva a guy.

[MamaMia]

There are two sides to the testosterone filled, beer flowing bar story? Gee, what a shocker. :rolleyes:

[looch]

Regardless of who is at fault here, drinking way too much makes you susceptible to being the victim in many ways. Even if the club and bouncers acted out of line, when you're really drunk you have removed yourself as a credible witness to the event.

It's not going to be easy for a judge to take Dusty's story over a (hopefully) sober bouncer.

On another note: Dusty's charges are, primarily, based off of the officers' discretion. If they felt Dusty *appeared* intoxicated that's all they need. BAC doesn't need to be taken. (You can get a PI without drinking any alcohol. You just need to appear intoxicated. This happens frequently with diabetics.)

[badger]

From a Neffel career standpoint, it doesn't matter if Dusty was at fault here, much like it didn't matter if Rufus Alexander was at fault when he got arrested shortly before the draft... and suddenly Rufus goes from being a high draft pick all the way down to the sixth round :mad:

The fact that Dusty once again got aggressive and arrested is all an NFL team will need to know when they're deciding whether or not to cut him this fall. This is the last thing Dusty needed after getting cut by da bears last August.

Even if Dusty is not at fault, he needs to show that he isn't the same Dusty that go kicked off Stoops' team, but rather, the same Dusty that worked his butt off in the classroom to earn his way back onto Stoops' team after getting kicked off. Crying "Not Dusty's fault" does nothing at this point.

[okienole3]

Any word on what ever happened with this?

[gaylordfan1]

Yea, he opened an auto financing company and is playing in some other kind of football league. Oh, I don't know what happened with the incident though. :O

[rawlingsHOH]

go to...

dustydvoracek.com

some interesting pictures, sure looks like Landry Jones. Dusty looks just like 2001 again.

[gaylordfan1]

Wow, that really is a site. I thought you were just joking.

[badger]

Dusty's retired, moved on from the NFL. Either no teams showed interest, or that last ACL tear was killer.

Good luck in your future endeavors, Dusty!

[boomermagic]

I dont recall him making similar mistakes at OU when bob brought him back..its not like he is his responsibility now

This !