Lane Kiffin to USC

[JLEW1818]

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[OUstud]

Damn, beat me to it. http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4820737

[Fiatil]

Just saw the same thing on ESPN. Woooow.

[OU-HSV]

You beat me to it. Here's the linky:
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=4820737

[OU-HSV]

Wow...nice work guys :D

[JLEW1818]

wow i called this in another thread.. i was somewhat joking around tho... but i knew he had USC experience

[ndpruitt03]

Now all we need is Rich Rod to get fired and Saben to take an NFL job then it'll be a complete off season.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

wow..the trouble USC is about to have with violations and they hire the violator?

[JLEW1818]

i think its a great fit.... i just want his wife tho

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I dunno..he was already about to get tennessee in a heap of trouble after just a season...good recruiter though

[JLEW1818]

is daddy coming?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

yup...cover 2

[meoveryouxinfinity]

I guess Prater will stay at USC then huh

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Ed Orgeron also...that dude is a maniac but a good recruiter

[Frozen Sooner]

Two words:

Panic
Hire

[yermom]

dude. this seems like a strange fit

and i thought the Pac 10 was weird this year...

[royalfan5]

Now Tennessee needs to do whatever it takes to get Nick Saban.

[Sooner4FCD]

Mike Leach to the Vols?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

2 panic moves so far

1. Urban Meyer's change of heart due to recruits ready to bail
2. USC hire of Kiffin to keep recruits from bailing

[Frozen Sooner]

Surely not. Everything I hear out here is how Mike Leach's offense can't work in the SEC, even though it did when he was the OC at Kentucky.

[ndpruitt03]

College Football may end before next year as many coaching changes as there have been.

[Soonerfan88]

Wow, a friend and I were just joking about this earlier today. We thought it would be hilarious to watch Rocky Top explode. :D

[Sabanball]

Vol Chat/Gridscape is in total meltdown. If you're a Bama fan, this is just too rich....

[JLEW1818]

so how bad did Tennessee get screwed over this?? Is that one of the worst things that can happen? A coach come in a recruit for a year, and then bounce. ???

[Sabanball]

Now Tennessee needs to do whatever it takes to get Nick Saban.

Dream on...

[royalfan5]

Dream on...

Probably, but it would be amusing to me. There is always Petrino though.

[tanjou]

Easily the most hilarious thing to happen in college football in years.

[Sabanball]

Probably, but it would be amusing to me. There is always Petrino though.

I agree it will be interesting to see who they get. I hear that Mr. Krispy Kreme is still unemployed. ;)

[JLEW1818]

I think it is the best fit out there.

USC will only get better in recruiting now.. def not worse

[Sabanball]

I think it is the best fit out there.

USC will only get better in recruiting now.. def not worse

Honk if you've been offered the USC job.

[royalfan5]

I think it is the best fit out there.

USC will only get better in recruiting now.. def not worse

Yeah, but what if the NCAA (Don't Laught) yanks a bunch of scholarships?

[Soonerfan88]

Unfortunately, I think it means we don't get any of their recruits. :(


So, who do we think Tennessee will go after now?

[Frozen Sooner]

I think it is the best fit out there.

USC will only get better in recruiting now.. def not worse

Don't see how their recruiting is going to get better than it has been for the last few years. Particularly since they'll be doing it without TV or 25 scholarships.

[JLEW1818]

is that official ?

[OKLA21FAN]

Bob Stoops to Tenn!!!!

(lets just get that out of the way)
:pop:

[royalfan5]

Don't see how their recruiting is going to get better than it has been for the last few years. Particularly since they'll be doing it without TV or 25 scholarships.

I don't think we will ever see another TV ban now that so many games are televised, it's really lost all meaning. I suppose you could try and make them forfeit TV money though.

[Frozen Sooner]

I don't think we will ever see another TV ban now that so many games are televised, it's really lost all meaning. I suppose you could try and make them forfeit TV money though.

Au contraire, a TV ban means that much more. In the past, you were maybe giving up three chances to sell yourself to a recruit on TV. Now? You're giving up 10-11 chances to get into their living room.

I don't think the NCAA controls the TV money anymore. That's kind of what the Oklahoma v. NCAA decision was about.

[royalfan5]

Au contraire, a TV ban means that much more. In the past, you were maybe giving up three chances to sell yourself to a recruit on TV. Now? You're giving up 10-11 chances to get into their living room.

I don't think the NCAA controls the TV money anymore. That's kind of what the Oklahoma v. NCAA decision was about.

But so are the conference teams that play them, and you don't think they want the shot to pound a fallen SC on TV. Now that everybody gets a lot of TV games, I don't see them wanting to give it up to punish SC.

[yankee]

Unfortunately, I think it means we don't get any of their recruits. :(


So, who do we think Tennessee will go after now?

yahoo sports guy says air force's troy calhoun may be the top candidate. the triple option on rocky top, anyone?

[Sabanball]

Our title defense next yr just got a little easier.

If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands(clap, clap)...;)

[StoopTroup]

Who the hell is lame Kickin?

[SunnySooner]

Holy cow, who needs soap operas when you have college football. More chicks should really get invested in this sport, you can't make this **** up.

And I would love to see Mike Leach coach the Vols. That would be "ridonkulous".

[Soonerfan88]

Just had a great idea and maybe I can get lucky with a 2nd prediction today.

Muschamp sees that :mack: won't be quitting anytime soon so he jumps from one ugly orange ut to another. That would make the off season almost perfect. :D

[JLEW1818]

Just had a great idea and maybe I can get lucky with a 2nd prediction today.

Muschamp sees that :mack: won't be quitting anytime soon so he jumps from one ugly orange ut to another. That would make the off season almost perfect. :D

interesting

[StoopTroup]

interesting
http://cmccleskey.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sgt_20schultz_small.jpg

fixed

[kiomanche]

What a wacky year!

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

I hear this guy's looking for a job...

http://www.volnation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/fulmer.jpg

Get ready to fist-pump like a champ, Vol Nation!

[BASSooner]

how much is the buyout?

Who'd be a great candidate?

Please, please, please say Muschamp...

[JLEW1818]

Will Muschamp to Tennessee

I'm starting rumors as we speak

[Sooner02]

Norm Chow is back to suc.

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

ESPNews just reported that Norm Chow is heading back to USC as the offensive coordinator.

Eff...

[JLEW1818]

ESPNews just reported that Norm Chow is heading back to USC as the offensive coordinator.

Eff...

really?

[Sooner02]

It's official.

[Soonerfan88]

So now we have usc, tenn, and ucla fans all pissed off. We really need to get Muschamp to tenn so the Hook 'em can join in.

[sozo]

i think its a great fit....




That was exactly my 1st though.LOL

[BASSooner]

NCAA sanctions just can't get here quick enough. I would love to see their potential dynasty go to waste.

[JLEW1818]

sucks dong for UCLA

[JLEW1818]

KIFFIN ON ESPN NOW

[SunnySooner]

ESPiN now reporting Chow headed back to SUC as well. Maybe the NCAA hammer is going to be more like a flyswatter.

[DenverSooner751]

This is comic gold.

[S008NER]

that press conference was awkward to say the least.

[SunnySooner]

I love Bob "Hell no, I'm not going to Notre Lame" Stoops. So much. Just needed to say that. Carry on.

[swardboy]

Life is truly stranger than fiction.

[DenverSooner751]

No **** that presser was awkward. It was kinda like "Look honey, I know we've been fooling around for a year, but I've got this really easy slut over here that will let me do stuff to her that you won't....peace out" You know, that weird moment???? No? Anyone? Bueller?

LOL. Maybe that was only funny in my head, either way I called USC a slut and that alone is worth it.

[Breadburner]

Him and his wifey miss the Cali lifestyle.......

[Petro-Sooner]

Link to the press conference?

[sooner518]

UT Fans are not taking this real well... NSFW (not terrible, just a picture of a big rock on UT's campus that people painted naughty words referring to Kiffin):
http://deadspin.com/5446833/ut-fans-now-taking-aggression-out-on-defenseless-rock

[Petro-Sooner]

Stay classy tennessee.

[Salt City Sooner]

Ed Orgeron also...that dude is a maniac but a good recruiter
Yeah, & here's one of his trade secrets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPAJTGOSK00

[ndpruitt03]

I think we need a name for this off season. Coaches Gone Wild or Offseason of Coaching Hell. Something like that.

[ouduckhunter]

...

Jlew, you predicted this!! You're brilliant!! ;)

[JLEW1818]

Jlew, you predicted this!! You're brilliant!! ;)

:hot: :hot: :hot:

[Paris of Troy]

Great... the biggest ********* in college football is now our coach.

Oh well, at least we'll have some good assistants back, and recruiting should be good... so long as we're not on probation.

This situation isn't made to last.

[JLEW1818]

yall should have got O.J.

[Paris of Troy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYAsxnRaTAg

[GKeeper316]

Stay classy tennessee.

well... lets be honest.

vols got reamed. im talking by an entire prison block kinda reamed.

[Leroy Lizard]

Great... the biggest ********* in college football is now our coach.


Well, your fan base was pretty burned by Pete's lack of loyalty, so at least you have a coach that... oh, wait.

[Leroy Lizard]

"Am I overreacting? It's possible."

[boomersooner28]

Muschamp is UT's #1 target. Can they get him away from the other UT?

[sooner59]

For some odd reason.....it makes sense. And its a little funny. But it has to be as a Sooner fan. Anytime I can giggle at USC, I go ahead and make the most of it.

[King Barry's Back]

so how bad did Tennessee get screwed over this?? Is that one of the worst things that can happen? A coach come in a recruit for a year, and then bounce. ???

Normally, I'd say "yes." But in this case, Kiffin was looking like such a train wreck -- looks like USC just saved them from the train wreck and having to make a panic hire following.

If Tenn exploits this opportunity to make a smart hire, they could come out on the rosy end of the stick.

USC, not so rosy.

[King Barry's Back]

Holy cow, who needs soap operas when you have college football. More chicks should really get invested in this sport, you can't make this **** up.

And I would love to see Mike Leach coach the Vols. That would be "ridonkulous".

Let's just say this happens. (And I would LOVE to see it.) Does Mike get to continue his lawsuit against Tech?

How stupid would the Tech admin look then? Leach pulling down a million or more per season in the SEC, while they are paying some retread fired from the SEC, and shelling out a couple of mill to Leach himself.

[Jacie]

The parallels to Dennis Franchione are obvious and no doubt, Bama fans are laffing their butts off over this one. That he is taking over at SC under less than optimal circumstances with the odds of failure high (failure being not maintaining Petey's level of success, 9-4 season notwithstanding, which won't be easy, especially with sanctions looming) would seem to be more difficult than bringing UT back to the level they expect.

Then there is the question, what exactly has Lane Kiffin done to merit so much interest? That part reminds me of Dave Wannstedt, who had one line on his coaching resume that read Defensive Coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, then went on to flop with the Dolphins and underachieve at Pitt. So far, Kiffin can say he is the son of a player/coach, went 5-15 with the Raiders and 7-6 at UT.

Lane is like the guy you would not buy a used car from or allow to date your daughter.

Read what Tom Dienahrt had to say about Lane:

Mike Garrett was a heck of running back in his playing days – he won the 1965 Heisman Trophy for the Trojans. He never moved quicker than he did since Carroll left for the Seattle Seahawks. This was the speed dating of all coaching searches, Garrett apparently running down his wish list like he was on a last-minute mission to find a prom date.


He finished with Kiffin, the fair-haired, father’s son who may turn out to be a good hire or may be a complete disaster.

The thing with Kiffin is there is truly no way to know – he hasn’t lasted anywhere long enough to show he’s more than a confident kid with a famous football name (Monte was considered a defensive genius during his long career as an NFL assistant). There’s a hint of potential to him, but also a tendency for self-inflicted mistakes. Garrett is the third person to hire Kiffin. The first two currently wish they never heard of him.

Screwing over UT certainly doesn’t say much about Kiffin. Yes, it’s the USC job, coveted beyond belief. And yes, this is America and everyone has a right to better their situation.

There’s also a thing called loyalty. Even by the pathetically low standards of college athletics, this one was rough. Naturally Kiffin soothed everything over by holding an approximate one-minute news conference in Knoxville.

[Frozen Sooner]

Uh, Don't look now, but Pitt won more games than OU did this year and was one play from winning the Big East.

[jthomas666]

The parallels to Dennis Franchione are obvious and no doubt, Bama fans are laffing their butts off over this one. That he is taking over at SC under less than optimal circumstances with the odds of failure high (failure being not maintaining Petey's level of success, 9-4 season notwithstanding, which won't be easy, especially with sanctions looming) would seem to be more difficult than bringing UT back to the level they expect.The fact that no one else wanted the job suggests that people are expecting the NCAA to bitchslap NCAA (I'll believe it when I see it). After having so many targets basically sprint away from the position, they went with someone they knew would accept, and apparently plan to surround him with so much coaching talent--not only is Dad coming to USC, but word is Norm Chow as well--that even Kiffin can't screw it up.

I'll admit, part of me is laughing at UT, but seriously, nobody deserves this. Well, maybe Notre Dame. Leaving a team after one year is simply beyond classless--so it's completely in character for Kiffin.

[badger]

I kind of feel sorry for Tennessee, but really, the SEC coaches have seemed, more recently at least, to be ready to leave their program in a heartbeat, regardless of past successes or failures.

The fact that Tennessee had only two coaches in the past 30 years before Kiffie Kins? Doesn't make a difference.

Glad it was you and not us, Rocky Top. Sorry.

[OUstud]

Uh, Don't look now, but Pitt won more games than OU did this year and was one play from winning the Big East.

True. But do you think Kiffin will be able to get away with 4-5 years of mediocrity like Wanny did?

[sooneron]

Great... the biggest ********* in college football is now our coach.



At least he'll fit right in!:texan:

[Salt City Sooner]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/The_New_Beverly_Hillbillies.gif

[Jboozer]

The world is turning upside down

[goingoneight]

Dear Gerald Jones,

You still think Oklahoma wouldn't have been a good idea?

[BigTime1]

My buddy just called me and said he read somewhere(and I dont know exactly where it came from)that he had his assts. that were going with him on the phone with recruits about changing comittments while he was talking to the team this morning.

[TUSooner]

Kiffin might succeed at USC. He's slick and loose enough to get the slick and loose players who have talent and are unencumbered by scruples. He's a perfect fit for sleazy SC.
Then again, he's never proved he's anything as an actual coach, and when his daddy finally retires, he'll be ska-rooood. My bet is that Tennessee comes out better in the long run than USC.

[JLEW1818]

this will set Tennessee back for a while

Kiffin gets a 5star recruit Barkley at USC right away.

when is the last time Tenn won a national title? 1998? USC in 2004...

my guess is USC will win 2 more before Tennessee wins another.

[Scott D]

USC to have probation similar to the Alabama probation from Fulmer's ratting them out within 2 years.

[JLEW1818]

i don't see them coming down too hard on them... just me

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I have heard the NCAA will send them a strongly worded letter!

[ndpruitt03]

I agree more with Jlew although I'm not sure about 2 NCs. Kiffin isn't near as good a coach as Carroll but the probation USC gets is probably a few scholarship losses. That's about it.

[JLEW1818]

probably something like that ...

[JLEW1818]

I agree more with Jlew although I'm not sure about 2 NCs. Kiffin isn't near as good a coach as Carroll but the probation USC gets is probably a few scholarship losses. That's about it.

i don't see USC winning another 2 national titles for a while... i just don't see Tennessee winning a national title for a long long while... Florida, Bama, and LSU are only getting better

we play Tenn in 2014, and 2015 :D

[yankee]

we went to the NC in '09 while on probation...'bama just won a NC while on probation. there's enough talent at USC to make kiffin look like a good coach, and he's once again assembled a very good coaching staff. unless the ncaa goes death penalty on usc's ***, which i never see happening, the trojans are going to (unfortunately) still be a very good team despite the ncaa wagging a finger at them.

[Scott D]

we went to the NC in '09 while on probation...'bama just won a NC while on probation. there's enough talent at USC to make kiffin look like a good coach, and he's once again assembled a very good coaching staff. unless the ncaa goes death penalty on usc's ***, which i never see happening, the trojans are going to (unfortunately) still be a very good team despite the ncaa wagging a finger at them.

I'm not referring to their current version of probation, but their previous Fulmer induced probation. It's about as close to the death penalty as anyone is going to get anymore.

[Scott D]

i don't see them coming down too hard on them... just me

Oh, I'm not referring to the past transgressions, I'm referring to the upcoming ones involving Kiffin and Orgeron.

[stoopified]

Uh, Don't look now, but Pitt won more games than OU did this year and was one play from winning the Big East.Not really defendindthe remark about Wanndstat BUT if you are using hisrecord this year vs. OU's record this year to establish his qualifications as coach lets chechis record since he arrived at Pittvs. OU's record the the same period.

Pitt:5-6,6-6,5-7,9-4,!0-3= 35-26
OU : 84,11-3,11-3,12-2,8-5 = 50-17 3 conference titles

.Not saying this proves Wanndstat is a bad coach but the fact Pitt went 10-3 this year and OU went 8-5 doesn't prove ANYTHING other than OU was crppled by injuries.

To get back to the subiect at Hand ,I am tickled sh!tless to see an unproven HC take the Condomn reins as propation looms.I do feel soory for vol fans.I imagine they feel like we would have if Bob had left for UF to replace Spurrier.

[TUSooner]

I'm getting a pretty clear picture of USC as the next unabashed "gangsta" program like Miami was back in the day. With Kiffin and Orgeron, it's a natural development. And if Des Howard thinks Kiffin is a great pick, for the reasons he said (see ESPN), then you know that's how it's gonna be.

[JLEW1818]

Lane will have a press conference at USC. 7 Central.. ESPN NEWS

[Scott D]

Not really defendindthe remark about Wanndstat BUT if you are using hisrecord this year vs. OU's record this year to establish his qualifications as coach lets chechis record since he arrived at Pittvs. OU's record the the same period.

Pitt:5-6,6-6,5-7,9-4,!0-3= 35-26
OU : 84,11-3,11-3,12-2,8-5 = 50-17 3 conference titles

.Not saying this proves Wanndstat is a bad coach but the fact Pitt went 10-3 this year and OU went 8-5 doesn't prove ANYTHING other than OU was crppled by injuries.

To get back to the subiect at Hand ,I am tickled sh!tless to see an unproven HC take the Condomn reins as propation looms.I do feel soory for vol fans.I imagine they feel like we would have if Bob had left for UF to replace Spurrier.

Wannstache was left with an empty cupboard when he arrived at Pitt. the 9-4 season was his first senior class.

[MamaMia]

No wonder Lanes wife wasn't happy in Tennessee. The poor woman was surrounded by very scary hillbillies. :eek:

[JLEW1818]

press conference about to start

[Jacie]

Didn't mean to start a row about Wannstedt, just comparing him to Lanny because after his stint with Dallas he seemed to get progressively better jobs, all the while failing in the process.

HC of Chicago Bears - flop

HC of Miami Dolphins - worse flop

HC of Pitt - flop, flop, flop

Okay, so he has put together a couple of good seasons there. Lucky for him the Pitt administration and fans gave him four years to do something (unlike those ungrateful bastids at Notre Dame!).

But I still think Dave is a little too excitable on the sideline!

[Leroy Lizard]

Well, it was bound to happen. Hitler found out about Lane's departure. Pretty stale, but it does have some good dialog at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX9oOfdpdlo

[S008NER]

Here is some of the drama that occurred pre-presser. :cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbNBd4S8II&feature=topvideos
(NSFW)

[badger]

Here is some of the drama that occurred pre-presser. :cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbNBd4S8II&feature=topvideos
(NSFW)

That is pretty funny. Then, for extra lulz, go watch the actual presser video. They guy that tries to bully the Tennessee official tries to get Lane to stay for questions, then the annoying chick shouts "What does this mean for recruiting, Lane?"

After arguing that long and knowing that Lane will not say anything, they should have asked Lane a question that he would be willing to answer first before having annoying guy and annoying girl try. Of course Lane is not going to answer about Tennessee recruiting, and of course he isn't going to do any favors for the guy who was bad mouthing him earlier and not agreeing to his terms of the post-leavin' interview.

Ah, whatever. Glad it was them and not us :D