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Soonerus
12/19/2009, 01:37 AM
1. Oklahoma 27 Big 12 4558 6 3 11 13 13 14 0 27 0 3.63 2.
2. Texas 21 Big 12 4412 7 4 13 4 11 10 0 21 0 4.00 1.
3. Alabama 23 SEC 4105 3 3 11 9 10 11 2 21 2 3.74 3.
4. Penn State 20 Big Ten 4084 4 2 15 3 12 8 0 20 0 3.95 4.
5. Florida 20 SEC 3937 5 2 13 5 8 12 0 20 0 3.85 5.
6. LSU 24 SEC 3538 2 0 10 12 9 14 1 24 0 3.33 6.
7. Washington 26 Pac-10 3530 2 0 8 16 13 12 1 26 0 3.23 7.
8. Georgia 19 SEC 3477 5 3 9 6 5 14 0 18 1 3.74 8.
9. Oklahoma State 26 Big 12 3250 1 0 6 18 10 16 0 26 0 3.15 9.
10. Tennessee 21 SEC 3227 4 1 9 11 11 9 1 17 4 3.52 10.
11. Auburn 26 SEC 3177 2 1 6 14 11 13 2 23 3 3.12 11.
12. Stanford 24 Pac-10 3051 0 0 5 18 14 9 1 24 0 3.17 12.
13. Pittsburgh 23 Big East 3048 1 1 5 15 14 9 0 22 1 3.22 13.
14. Notre Dame 19 Indep 2979 2 0 8 11 9 10 0 19 0 3.42 14.
15. Texas A&M 21 Big 12 2957 2 2 4 14 14 7 0 21 0 3.33 15.
16. Michigan 23 Big Ten 2943 2 1 5 14 11 11 1 23 0 3.17 16.
17. BYU 26 MWC 2925 2 1 4 16 11 15 0 26 0 3.04 17.
18. USC 13 Pac-10 2781 6 4 7 1 10 2 1 12 1 4.08 18.
19. Miami (Fl) 23 ACC 2632 1 0 2 20 13 10 0 22 1 3.04 19.
20. UCLA 17 Pac-10 2593 2 1 6 10 7 9 1 16 1 3.47 20.
21. Ohio State 15 Big Ten 2556 3 1 8 5 7 7 1 15 0 3.60 21.
22. West Virginia 22 Big East 2554 0 1 3 15 11 11 0 20 2 3.09 22.
23. Clemson 20 ACC 2501 1 0 5 12 8 12 0 20 0 3.10 23.
24. Florida State 17 ACC 2334 2 2 2 12 3 14 0 16 1 3.29 24.
25. Texas Tech 23 Big 12 2317 0 0 3 15 10 13 0 21 2 2.91 25.
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* Rankings as of 12/19/2009 1:00 AM ET; Previous Rankings as of 12/19/2009 12:00 AM ET

OU-HSV
12/19/2009, 01:39 AM
Is that from Rivals?

crimson&cream
12/19/2009, 01:58 AM
Is that from Rivals?

No, apparent with Losur sitting at #9

BoulderSooner79
12/19/2009, 02:02 AM
why do I like the horns pulling in another highly ranked class? ;)

I know highly subjective, but all the big12 south teams except Baylor in the top 25. Not one north squad.

IronHorseSooner
12/19/2009, 02:32 AM
I believe this is Scout. Rivals hasn't updated the overall rankings, and ESPN has the tops spots automatically reserved for SUC, *, ND, and the entire SEC.

meoveryouxinfinity
12/19/2009, 08:01 AM
What, are we the University of Texas now?

However, I think this class is really talented and I, for one, am excited and optimistic about next season.

SoonerDood
12/19/2009, 08:07 AM
can any of those guys block or catch/get open?

VA Sooner
12/19/2009, 08:20 AM
Have to check those sites for sure after our two recent California commits.

King Barry's Back
12/19/2009, 11:33 AM
To recruits, sometimes an off-year looks like a program in decline. Sometimes it looks like a chance to play.

Here's hoping Bob can spin those 5 losses.

Widescreen
12/19/2009, 11:51 AM
What, are we the University of Texas now?

However, I think this class is really talented and I, for one, am excited and optimistic about next season.
In one post, you slammed everyone else, and then put yourself in the same category.

meoveryouxinfinity
12/19/2009, 12:18 PM
In one post, you slammed everyone else, and then put yourself in the same category.

I used the word HOWEVER so it is completely acceptable.

MyT Oklahoma
12/20/2009, 09:24 PM
It's from scout.com and it includes the two kids who just verbally committed from the San Diego area.

swardboy
12/20/2009, 10:36 PM
Sorry, I just don't give anything creedence until the ink is on the paper.

PLaw
12/20/2009, 11:44 PM
Rivals and Scout rankings are a little misleading and are highly weighted on quantity. Looking at the average "star" ranks, the list becomes:

1) USC 4.08
2) Texas 4.0
3) Penn State 3.95
4) Florida 3.85
5 tie) Alabama 3.74 / Georgia 3.74
7) Oklahoma 3.63

The reason USC typically vaults to a TOP 3 class is because they continue to focus on 5-stars. Today, they have 18 commits with probably a few more 'ships to give.

Still, I think we have a solid class headed to Norman and hopefully some players that can make an impact on the O-line and receiver positions.

BOOMER

SoonerLB
12/21/2009, 12:24 AM
......., and ESPN has the tops spots automatically reserved for SUC, *, ND, and the entire SEC.

BINGO! We have a winner!!! ;)

SPuL
12/21/2009, 12:28 AM
Rivals and Scout rankings are a little misleading and are highly weighted on quantity. Looking at the average "star" ranks, the list becomes:

1) USC 4.08
2) Texas 4.0
3) Penn State 3.95
4) Florida 3.85
5 tie) Alabama 3.74 / Georgia 3.74
7) Oklahoma 3.63

The reason USC typically vaults to a TOP 3 class is because they continue to focus on 5-stars. Today, they have 18 commits with probably a few more 'ships to give.

Still, I think we have a solid class headed to Norman and hopefully some players that can make an impact on the O-line and receiver positions.

BOOMER

True. Bradford was a 3 star recruit if I remember correctly. I'm confident Stoops and the staff knows what to look for in a recruit.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
12/21/2009, 12:28 AM
Rivals and Scout rankings are a little misleading and are highly weighted on quantity. Looking at the average "star" ranks, the list becomes:

1) USC 4.08
2) Texas 4.0
3) Penn State 3.95
4) Florida 3.85
5 tie) Alabama 3.74 / Georgia 3.74
7) Oklahoma 3.63

The reason USC typically vaults to a TOP 3 class is because they continue to focus on 5-stars. Today, they have 18 commits with probably a few more 'ships to give.

Still, I think we have a solid class headed to Norman and hopefully some players that can make an impact on the O-line and receiver positions.

BOOMERLots of our guys are 3-stars. Fortunately, some turn out to be excellent players. I'll be pleasantly satisfied if we wind up being in the top 6 or 7.

VA Sooner
12/21/2009, 01:03 AM
So far so good on the recruited positions... how many good o-linemen?

o0Dan0o
12/21/2009, 01:22 AM
None of OUr quarter backs have been very highly ranked, and no I don't count bomar. A lot of our best players tend to be diamond's in the rough, so to speak since few are every ranked bellow 3 stars. We don't get that many 5 stars, but many of our four and some of our 3 star guys turn out to be true game changers. Jermaine was a 4 star, and as a junior was considered to be the best TE in college football. Trent Williams was a three star, and is an all american as a senior. Hell, Jeremy Beal was a 2 star, and while he's not quite the talent that McCoy is he is not far off.

I am very confident in how Stoops and Co. recruit players
Dan

o0Dan0o
12/21/2009, 01:24 AM
So far so good on the recruited positions... how many good o-linemen?

A TE, two tackles, two guards and a center. Half 3 and half 4 stars.
Dan

IronHorseSooner
12/21/2009, 08:26 AM
BINGO! We have a winner!!! ;)

If you look at their current Top 10, seven of the Top 10 are SUC, *, and five SEC teams. The other three are us, Penn State, and FSU, and we and FSU are at the bottom of the Top 10. On second thought, it's no wonder that these aforementioned teams have these classes. Their tactics are one of three:

1. Play on regional homerism (insert SEC school here)
2. High-pressure recruits into coming, and then work to devalue their talent if they don't. (*)
3. Offer them money, houses, Range Rovers, wimmenz, and hanging out with stars. (SUC)

All we have to offer is playing for a storied program, developing your talent, and playing for championships.

rawlingsHOH
12/21/2009, 10:06 AM
None of OUr quarter backs have been very highly ranked, and no I don't count bomar. A lot of our best players tend to be diamond's in the rough, so to speak since few are every ranked bellow 3 stars. We don't get that many 5 stars, but many of our four and some of our 3 star guys turn out to be true game changers. Jermaine was a 4 star, and as a junior was considered to be the best TE in college football. Trent Williams was a three star, and is an all american as a senior. Hell, Jeremy Beal was a 2 star, and while he's not quite the talent that McCoy is he is not far off.

I am very confident in how Stoops and Co. recruit players
Dan

Tommy Grady, Landry Jones, Brent Rawls, etc. ?

Widescreen
12/21/2009, 10:40 AM
Tommy Grady, Landry Jones, Brent Rawls, etc. ?

yeah, those guys were nobodys in high school. :D

IronHorseSooner
12/21/2009, 10:43 AM
I remember in the Army AA Game that the starting QB, RB, and WRs were Landry, Calhoun, Julio Jones, and Josh Jarboe.

soonerguild
12/21/2009, 11:21 AM
No highly ranked qb's, really. There is no shame in not following recruiting, but if you don't then don't act like you do. Landry was an elite 11, translation: was one of the best 11 qb's in the entire country. Blake bell is also an elite 11.

Also Jermaine might have been a 4*, but rivals did have him as the best TE in the country, they just only give around 25 5*. That is (in their opinion) the best 25 kids in the country.

Though I agree that Stoops and co know what they are doing when it comes to recruiting, don't for a second act like we have been turning no named kids into all-americans, we get our fair share of blue-chippers.

Except that adrian peterson, he came out of nowhere.

o0Dan0o
12/21/2009, 11:28 AM
Tommy Grady, Landry Jones, Brent Rawls, etc. ?

I was referring specifically to our two Heisman winners and our QB when we won our last NC. Landry was a highly ranked QB coming out of HS, and I have high hopes for his future over the next few years. But remind me what Grady and Rawls did for OUr team?

My point wasn't that we don't get top recruits (see Adrian Peterson), but that a lot of our best players are not the highest ranked or recruited players. I'm very confident that Stoops and Co. recruit the best talent, regardless of how the media evaluates them.
Dan

o0Dan0o
12/21/2009, 11:35 AM
No highly ranked qb's, really. There is no shame in not following recruiting, but if you don't then don't act like you do. Landry was an elite 11, translation: was one of the best 11 qb's in the entire country. Blake bell is also an elite 11.

Notice I said none of our QB's, not none of the QB's we've recruited. I was referring to those that started for us and lead our teams to great things. I believe Landry can do that, but he hasn't really done it yet. Blake Bell isn't even on campus yet...

rawlingsHOH
12/21/2009, 12:13 PM
I was referring specifically to our two Heisman winners and our QB when we won our last NC. Landry was a highly ranked QB coming out of HS, and I have high hopes for his future over the next few years. But remind me what Grady and Rawls did for OUr team?

My point wasn't that we don't get top recruits (see Adrian Peterson), but that a lot of our best players are not the highest ranked or recruited players. I'm very confident that Stoops and Co. recruit the best talent, regardless of how the media evaluates them.
Dan
Right.

A lot aren't, but a lot are, too.

o0Dan0o
12/21/2009, 12:42 PM
Right.

A lot aren't, but a lot are, too.

Pretty much my point.

Sasakwa
12/23/2009, 04:05 PM
don't for a second act like we have been turning no named kids into all-americans, we get our fair share of blue-chippers

I was thinking about this and decided to go back and look at Rivals' rankings of recent classes. I found what I thought I would, which was all classes were Top 15, most were Top 10. So the quote above is spot on, there is a fair share of very highly rated kids going to Norman. But I also want to point out something about USC. They went on a 4 year run of having the #1, #1, #1 and #2 rated class and did what with those classes? I still say Pete does less with more than anyone. Because not only are these kids coming in highly rated, they are moving on the NFL.

Here are the rankings of OU, UT and USC going back to 2003:

2009 - OU 13; UT 5; USC 4
2008 - OU 6; UT 14; USC 8
2007 - OU 14; UT 5; USC 2
2006 - OU 9; UT 5; USC 1
2005 - OU 3; UT 20; USC 1
2004 - OU 8; UT 10; USC 1
2003 - OU 4; UT 15; USC 3

All of USC's classes are Top 10. UT had the worst class, the second worst class and tied for third worst on the list.

BoulderSooner79
12/23/2009, 04:16 PM
Until this year, I can't agree Petey has done less with more. He certainly gets the more part, but he has done a lot with it. 7 conference titles in a row, 1 BCS title and came within 9 seconds of another one. Great winning percentage including bowl games, only lost by a few points in the few games they did lose, etc, etc.

This year has reversed most those trends. No conference title, no BCS bowl game, not currently ranked, got blown out 2 times. Arizona finally beat them. Even if they do win their bowl, it is a very minor one. I hope this is a new trend and not a minor blip :D

TheUnnamedSooner
12/23/2009, 04:27 PM
1. Oklahoma 27 Big 12 4558 6 3 11 13 13 14 0 27 0 3.63 2.

What does this mean?

I get "1. Oklahoma 27 Big 12" After that what do the numbers mean?

Sasakwa
12/23/2009, 05:54 PM
After that what do the numbers mean?


number of injuries in 2009

Widescreen
12/23/2009, 08:07 PM
I used the word HOWEVER so it is completely acceptable.

In that case, people who always run around yelling TEXAS SUCKS are lame.

However, TEXAS SUCKS!!!!!!!

Scott D
12/23/2009, 08:18 PM
Here are the rankings of OU, UT and USC going back to 2003:

2009 - OU 13; UT 5; USC 4
2008 - OU 6; UT 14; USC 8
2007 - OU 14; UT 5; USC 2
2006 - OU 9; UT 5; USC 1
2005 - OU 3; UT 20; USC 1
2004 - OU 8; UT 10; USC 1
2003 - OU 4; UT 15; USC 3

All of USC's classes are Top 10. UT had the worst class, the second worst class and tied for third worst on the list.

That Texas class that is ranked the worst out of that entire bunch, also happens to be the most successful class in the Mack Brown era.

budbarrybob
12/23/2009, 10:03 PM
What, are we the University of Texas now?

However, I think this class is really talented and I, for one, am excited and optimistic about next season In a good way.

fixed :D

adoniijahsooner
12/23/2009, 10:33 PM
It looks like Bob is taking a Blakeesque approach to recruiting. A bunch of versatile athletes who can play 2-3 positions, and I like it.

adoniijahsooner
12/23/2009, 10:38 PM
Have you guys seen this yet? Perfect example of why stars mean nothing when you know how to evaluate talent. Austin Haywood has moved ahead of Demarco Cobbs as the #1 player in Oklahoma. Before we recruited him he was considered a 1 star player. Same goes with Ronnell Lewis, and a host of other players Bob goes after.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2306&Year=2010

rawlingsHOH
12/24/2009, 09:50 AM
Have you guys seen this yet? Perfect example of why stars mean nothing when you know how to evaluate talent. Austin Haywood has moved ahead of Demarco Cobbs as the #1 player in Oklahoma. Before we recruited him he was considered a 1 star player. Same goes with Ronnell Lewis, and a host of other players Bob goes after.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2306&Year=2010

They don't mean nothing, just not everything. They often times reflect what schools/coaches give offers to kids.

The recruiting "gurus" defer to the coaches.

S008NER
1/6/2010, 10:39 AM
These rankings made my day. I am sick of all this puke orange **** everywhere. :mad:

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/6/2010, 11:04 AM
Did we recruit the guys near the top that went to lOSUr, Arizona and Ttech?

soonerspudman
1/6/2010, 09:28 PM
Rivals and Scout rankings are a little misleading and are highly weighted on quantity. Looking at the average "star" ranks, the list becomes:

1) USC 4.08
2) Texas 4.0
3) Penn State 3.95
4) Florida 3.85
5 tie) Alabama 3.74 / Georgia 3.74
7) Oklahoma 3.63

The reason USC typically vaults to a TOP 3 class is because they continue to focus on 5-stars. Today, they have 18 commits with probably a few more 'ships to give.

Still, I think we have a solid class headed to Norman and hopefully some players that can make an impact on the O-line and receiver positions.

BOOMER

The reason USC typically vaults to a TOP 3 class is because they continue to focus on 5-stars. Today, they have 18 commits with probably a few more 'ships to give

That B a lot of SUV's.

Crucifax Autumn
1/6/2010, 10:05 PM
They used to give out free coeds, but Pete's keeping 'em all to himself.

Curly Bill
1/6/2010, 10:22 PM
None of OUr quarter backs have been very highly ranked, and no I don't count bomar. A lot of our best players tend to be diamond's in the rough, so to speak since few are every ranked bellow 3 stars. We don't get that many 5 stars, but many of our four and some of our 3 star guys turn out to be true game changers. Jermaine was a 4 star, and as a junior was considered to be the best TE in college football. Trent Williams was a three star, and is an all american as a senior. Hell, Jeremy Beal was a 2 star, and while he's not quite the talent that McCoy is he is not far off.

I am very confident in how Stoops and Co. recruit players
Dan

Beal was a Rivals 4 star. While he was not highly thought of going into his senior year, by the end of it that was no longer the case.