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Salt City Sooner
12/14/2009, 06:44 PM
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2009/12/14/sources-south-floridas-leavitt-struck-player/


TAMPA, Fla. -- University of South Florida coach Jim Leavitt grabbed a player by the throat then struck him twice in the face during halftime of the Bulls' Nov. 21 game with Louisville, the player's father, his high school coach and five members of USF's football program told FanHouse.

The incident involved sophomore walk-on Joel Miller that stemmed from Leavitt being upset over Miller's first-half mistake on special teams, according to witnesses. Leavitt, who was out of town Monday recruiting, would not comment specifically about the incident when reached on his cell phone.

"I'll visit with you about recruiting," Leavitt said. "All the stuff we do in there [the locker room] ... I'll visit with you about recruiting.

"Things that happen or don't happen usually are kept within the team -- whether they happen or don't happen. If you want to talk about recruiting, I'll talk about recruiting."

According to the five witnesses -- USF players and staff members -- Leavitt was pacing in the Raymond James Stadium locker room at halftime when he walked about 10 feet to the locker where Miller was sitting without his helmet. Leavitt then grabbed Miller by the throat and hit him twice in the face with his hand.

The witnesses all talked to FanHouse on the condition of anonymity because they said they feared Leavitt would remove them from scholarship or they might lose their job. Joel Miller's teammates and his high school coach said Miller told them he wouldn't go public because he feared retribution and would be dismissed from the team.

"He really wants to play football," said David Mitchell, who was Miller's head coach at Tampa's Wharton High School. "He told me he's concerned if he says something [to the administration] 'I won't be able to play football. If I don't [say anything], I will be able to keep playing football.'

"The message I left with him when I spoke with him was: 'If you don't say anything, it's going to occur again to other players.' This was way over the line."

Miller refused comment when contacted by FanHouse Sunday night. "I'd rather not speak about it right now," Miller said. "There are a lot of things going on. I have no comment about this situation."

Miller told teammates he did not notify athletic director Doug Woolard about the incident. It's unknown if Woolard, who immediately did not return a phone call seeking comment, was aware of the incident that the entire team and staff knew had occurred.

Two days after the incident, Miller told his father, teammates and staff members he went to Leavitt's office to discuss the incident. Instead, Miller left feeling disrespected, threatened and intimidated, according to his teammates.

"Coach I want to talk to you about what happened," Joel told Leavitt on Nov. 23.

"Before you say anything," said Leavitt, according to what Miller told others in USF's program and his father, "just know I am the most powerful man in this building."

USF's football offices are located in the USF Athletic Facilities building along with USF's entire athletics department administrative staff, including Woolard.

Leavitt's only recent public comments about Miller (pictured) came in his weekly news conference Dec. 1. Responding to a special teams question, Leavitt talked about USF's "poor special teams" and mentioned some penalties, including one by Miller. "Miller had one [penalty] two games ago [against Louisville] that was a penalty and should have been called," Leavitt said.

On the afternoon of Dec. 3 -- nearly two weeks after the incident -- Leavitt left cell phone messages wanting to meet Miller. They met in his office where Leavitt apologized, according to what Miller told his father, teammates and staff members. Ironically, Leavitt's 12-day old apology came one day after Kansas coach Mark Mangino resigned amid an investigation into his treatment of his players, including verbal abuse or having inappropriate physical contact with his players.

Leavitt and Mangino were assistants together at Kansas State from 1991-95.

Mitchell, who has been coaching 27 years including the last 13 at Wharton High School, said he would not recommend any more of his players to play for Leavitt at USF.

"I would not send a kid where he will be humiliated or mistreated," Mitchell said. "It [playing for Leavitt] is like knowing someone is considering buying a bad car. You tell them 'It doesn't run, it's no good, don't buy it.' If they still decide to, they have to live with that decision. But at least I let them know how bad it was."

Leavitt, who is 67-40 overall and 17-18 in the Big East as the only coach in the program's 13-year existence, never mentioned the incident to the team. Leavitt is completing the second year of a seven-year contract worth $12.6 million. He will make $1.6 million this year, plus incentives.

"That's another thing I thought about a lot," a witness said. "He knows everyone knows, so for him not to address it to the team is really interesting. He knows his staff and all the players are talking about it. Why wouldn't my head coach talk to me about it?"

When the incident occurred in the locker room, one witness said couldn't believe it.

"I was thinking 'am I really seeing this?' " a player said. "I've never felt wronged by [Leavitt], he's done nothing but help me, but when I witnessed that, I was like 'this is bull----.'

"If he would have grabbed another player like that, they would have done something, but he knew he could do something like that and Joel wouldn't fight back."

Added a staff member: "We've had our ups and downs this year, but in that particular case, that was a different situation."

The witnesses all said Leavitt was upset at Miller because he made a mistake on special teams in the first half.

The 6-foot, 190-pound Miller, who played at Wharton High School located about 10 miles from USF, decided to walk on to USF instead of accept a scholarship offer to a smaller FBS school. In two seasons at USF, he has played in 21 games, almost exclusively on special teams, and has 11 tackles.

Paul Miller, who has spoken to FanHouse on five occasions since Dec. 1, said he initially didn't want to disclose what happened because his son "just wants to play football. But at the same time, as a father, I'm very upset.

"If [Joel is] a whistle-blower, people say that they stand behind him and then they push everyone behind him. You still suffer some consequences. He's a helluva football player. He just wants to play."

Leavitt's contract indicates he may be terminated with cause for "a finding of a serious, major or intentional violation by Coach of the Athletic Rules" or suspended with pay if a "charge has been initiated against Coach; a formal inquiry or charge is pending ... concerning any alleged major, significant or repeated violation of Athletic Rules by the Coach."

The witnesses had mixed opinions on what, if any, punishment Leavitt should receive.

"That's a tough question," one witness said. "I don't see that as means or grounds for losing his job, but at the same time, they need to take whatever means necessary to make sure that doesn't happen here again."

Another witness felt it was grounds for dismissal. "You can't grab someone like that in any profession," the witness said. "Why should he get different standards?"

USF, which finished 7-5, 3-4 in the Big East, will play Northern Illinois in the International Bowl on Jan. 2 in Toronto.

badger
12/14/2009, 06:54 PM
Leavitt is far more crazy than Mangino. You know how you know? Mangino could controll himself for the most part in public. Leavitt can't!

On a side note, I do not think that players should be hit in the head helmetless by their coaches, but parents should not take these tales of woe public. I can understand a kid seeking his parent's help when he's afraid of losing out on football, but a parent shouldn't seek the press during these situations.

yankee
12/14/2009, 07:04 PM
leavitt should have never done that, it was plain wrong...however, i don't want to keep hearing about coaches "mistreating" their players and all that crap in the news. i can just see the political correctness lovers getting involved with stuff like this.

fadada1
12/14/2009, 07:10 PM
what was the espn film about bear bryant and a&m? can't remember the name of it. do something like that now and you got yourself a major lawsuit.

Fiatil
12/14/2009, 07:12 PM
Ouch, that sucks for South Florida. Their first and only coach that actually gave them a degree of success is going to be unemployable pretty soon.

badger
12/14/2009, 07:31 PM
Ouch, that sucks for South Florida. Their first and only coach that actually gave them a degree of success is going to be unemployable pretty soon.

To be fair, South Florida might be national champs by now... but we'll never know, because they have stuck with Leavitt and are satisfied with winning seasons.

;)

SoonerBacker
12/14/2009, 09:43 PM
what was the espn film about bear bryant and a&m? can't remember the name of it. do something like that now and you got yourself a major lawsuit.

Name of the movie was "The Junction Boys." And you're right! Bear would have been run out of football these days.

Widescreen
12/14/2009, 10:44 PM
If this allegation is true, Leavitt should be fired immediately. I can't tell you how mad I'd be if a coach choked and punched my son. That should absolutely be a fireable offense.

Crucifax Autumn
12/15/2009, 12:10 AM
bah...football players have been smacking around band kids and D&D nerds and stoners for all eternity, they can take being on the other end of it from time to time! ;) :P

goingoneight
12/15/2009, 09:15 AM
Here's two things I don't get... when the majority of the team sticks up for the coach... poor, defenseless, "battered" player gets the coach fired. Secondly... if you're a D-1 football player, shouldn't you be strong enough to defend yourself against your coach?

pweitkem
12/15/2009, 09:24 AM
I got punched in highschool by my coach for fighting on the football field. Went home and told my mom and got grounded a week for fighting and another week for whining to her about getting hit by Brother Wilmott. You public school kids need to suck it up. So the kid got hit, so what? The Junction Boys are a perfect example... Bryant made the Aggies relavent.

OUMallen
12/15/2009, 09:43 AM
So now we hit kids in the face and head and it's no big deal. Maybe some of you guys should get smacked at work by your boss.

yermom
12/15/2009, 09:51 AM
poking in the chest, i can see

this sounds pretty rough... of course the language is a little vague. it's a little hard to tell how brutal it was. if we are just talking about him slapping him, it might be a little different

it sure sounds like he needs to get canned though

KantoSooner
12/15/2009, 09:57 AM
Would Bud have done that? Would Bob? True leaders don't need to.

stoops the eternal pimp
12/15/2009, 09:58 AM
I'd tell my son to kick is *** and if my son wasn't big enough, I would do it..

badger
12/15/2009, 10:06 AM
The civil thing to do, if this was indeed a one-time thing, as players' shock when they witnessed seems to suggest, would be to have a private, internal meeting with coaches, players, and the athletic department.

This way, the resolution can also be civil.

Alas, by making this public ensures that the resolution will be anything but civil. Among other undesired outcomes, the kid will probably not play Division 1 football again, because his family blabbed.

StoopTroup
12/15/2009, 10:20 AM
If your not going to say anything...then say something like....The Coach and I staged the incident in case he needed to pump the other guys up a bit. Next year I get to knock the **** out of him if he makes a bad call. :D ;)

stoops the eternal pimp
12/15/2009, 10:24 AM
This kinda crap makes me mad just reading about it...I've been cussed at, pushed, called names , and a few other things by coaches and I expect my son will go through the same one day...but if a coach grabs him by the throat and strikes his face....That coach will be wearing three shoes

Sonner magic923
12/15/2009, 10:37 AM
This kinda crap makes me mad just reading about it...I've been cussed at, pushed, called names , and a few other things by coaches and I expect my son will go through the same one day...but if a coach grabs him by the throat and strikes his face....That coach will be wearing three shoes

ya in the words of the great Bernie Mack "I wish a motha ***** would":)

LePetomaine
12/15/2009, 11:21 AM
A few thoughts here: Behavior like that is unacceptable in any arena; an assault is an assault. Folks in positions of authority (coach striking player, boss sexually harassing subordinate) need to be held accountable -- just like the rest of us.

Junction Boys is a poor example of "when coaches were tough". The author -- Jim Dent -- has a habit of hedging the truth a bit. Not fabricating it; just merging certain characters and incidents into one that are not entirely accurate -- as he did in writing about the Sooners in "The Undefeated." The Bear did not make A&M relevant; John David Crowe did that when he showed up on campus after Bryant left, and later won the Heisman.

just sayin'

rawlingsHOH
12/15/2009, 11:29 AM
Ouch, that sucks for South Florida. Their first and only coach that actually gave them a degree of success is going to be unemployable pretty soon.

Uh, their first and only coach PERIOD. Their program just got started in 1997, with him as the head coach.

Leroy Lizard
12/15/2009, 11:32 AM
leavitt should have never done that, it was plain wrong...however, i don't want to keep hearing about coaches "mistreating" their players and all that crap in the news. i can just see the political correctness lovers getting involved with stuff like this.

Political correctness? What does have to do with PC? This isn't a political deal. A coach struck a player. Adios, coach.


Here's two things I don't get... when the majority of the team sticks up for the coach... poor, defenseless, "battered" player gets the coach fired. Secondly... if you're a D-1 football player, shouldn't you be strong enough to defend yourself against your coach?

If the player clocks the coach, he will be dismissed from the team. The player has no recourse, which is why we don't allow coaches to strike their players.

rawlingsHOH
12/15/2009, 11:32 AM
Leavitt is far more crazy than Mangino. You know how you know? Mangino could controll himself for the most part in public. Leavitt can't!

Anybod have that pic of the KSU coaching staff from the early 90s?

OUMallen
12/15/2009, 01:32 PM
If the player clocks the coach, he will be dismissed from the team. The player has no recourse, which is why we don't allow coaches to strike their players.

Bingo. Same underlying theme as sexual harassment by a boss in the workplace. There's jsut no recourse the initial victim has.

mehip
12/15/2009, 01:40 PM
Wow. I've had coaches grab my facemask and get in my grill. I've even had one smack the side of my helmet. But this is just way over the line. If he isn't dismissed over this it will be a shame. Speaking as a father, if this were to happen to my boy and something wasn't done about this I am pretty sure I'd find myself in jail.

TheHumanAlphabet
12/16/2009, 10:56 AM
Leavitt - hits player...TBD

Mangino - pokes at player...Fired

Which school is pansier?

Not that hitting is a thing to condone. I've been slapped in the head (with helmet on) to encourage me to get the play correct...

Salt City Sooner
12/17/2009, 10:24 PM
Something is a tad rotten in Denmark:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4749780