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Boomer.....
12/9/2009, 01:48 PM
This (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm) article shows the breakdown of how each coach voted. What is interesting is the comment below that states that Alabama should be playing in the BCS National Championship game because they are on probation and coaches should not be able to vote for them in polls yet they are able to play in post-season games.


I thought you might be interested in the following:

1. The University of Alabama's football program is currently on probation for "major violations" for three years beginning back on June 11, 2009:

http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/061109aaa.html

and as defined by the NCAA Rules manual:

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/D1_Manual9d74a0b2-d10d-4587-8902-b0c781e128ae.pdf

This situation is currently under appeal, however penalties shall NOT be set aside on appeal, in accordance with section 32.10.4.1 of the manual.

2. The AFCA prohibits coaches from voting for schools currently on "major" NCAA probation:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm

3. The USA Today Coaches poll counts as 1/3rd of the final BCS formula:

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bcs_explained.html

Based on these circumstances, the University of Alabama football team is required receive 0 (zero) points from the USA Today Coaches poll, giving them a recalculated BCS average of 0.6656, thus moving them down to number 8 on the BCS final standings:

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/10485922_37_1.pdf

In which case, it appears that either the USA Today Coaches poll members must re-vote in order to recalculate the final BCS standings, OR The National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame, Inc. should move up the University Cincinnati's football team to play the University of Texas football team in the BCS Championship game, base on all of the above.

rawlingsHOH
12/9/2009, 01:58 PM
They were eligible to be voted on in the Coaches Poll.

Boomer.....
12/9/2009, 02:04 PM
They were eligible to be voted on in the Coaches Poll.

Why? It says:


The AFCA prohibits coaches from voting for schools on major NCAA probation.

jaux
12/9/2009, 02:11 PM
So the whorns win by default....but with an asterix?

yermom
12/9/2009, 02:13 PM
it says "major violations" not "major probation"

weren't we on "probation" a couple of years ago?

rawlingsHOH
12/9/2009, 02:13 PM
Because they aren't under a post-season ban (IE Alabama, 2002).

rawlingsHOH
12/9/2009, 02:14 PM
it says "major violations" not "major probation"

weren't we on "probation" a couple of years ago?
Yes, last year.

The author doesn't know what he's talking about.

fwsooner22
12/9/2009, 02:19 PM
Yawn.......play the dang games

85Sooner
12/9/2009, 02:49 PM
Only applies to double secret probation.

badger
12/9/2009, 02:50 PM
Texas will use this excuse after they lose 77-0.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2vio108.jpg

fireater
12/9/2009, 05:29 PM
Sorry guys...the whole textbook issue @ Alabama was no different then the IRS looking into the books of a company generating $70-$100 million a year in revenue. The ball got dropped somewhere.

10-15-20 years ago you could go interview for a job at McDonalds, and they started you on the same day. Now it takes a week to go through the hring procedure for a minimum wage job...just like it took damned near a week for a Bama fan to be able to post on this site.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
12/10/2009, 12:52 AM
Sorry guys...the whole textbook issue @ Alabama was no different then the IRS looking into the books of a company generating $70-$100 million a year in revenue. The ball got dropped somewhere.

10-15-20 years ago you could go interview for a job at McDonalds, and they started you on the same day. Now it takes a week to go through the hring procedure for a minimum wage job...just like it took damned near a week for a Bama fan to be able to post on this site.I sure don't wish you guys a championship, but will have to pull for you in that next game. If one of the refs is named Bible, you might as well default, though.

JLEW1818
12/10/2009, 01:02 AM
where the hell is the "public coaches poll" ??? i thought it was made public after the last week?

yermom
12/10/2009, 01:04 AM
it's in the first link in the first post...

JLEW1818
12/10/2009, 01:09 AM
it's in the first link in the first post...

it says who each coach voted for ?

Soonerus
12/10/2009, 01:11 AM
Even if they don't win Alabama will claim like 3 championships this year...

JLEW1818
12/10/2009, 01:15 AM
final public coaches poll....

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm

King Barry's Back
12/10/2009, 01:16 AM
Might as well point out right up front that the AFCA rule in question -- the one banning coaches from voting for teams on probation -- is known informally as the "Oklahoma rule."

It was enacted under the AFCA Presidency of one Darrel Royal, well known for hating Barry Switzer, who was so jealous of the fact that newly-minted OU Head Coach Switzer was primed to win a national title, that he pushed this through.

I'm not much on conspiracy theories out to get Oklahoma, but this one is true. Should keep in mind who our enemies are.

yermom
12/10/2009, 01:20 AM
final public coaches poll....

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2009-final-coaches-ballots.htm

that's the same link :D

Boomer.....
12/10/2009, 08:37 AM
where the hell is the "public coaches poll" ??? i thought it was made public after the last week?


it's in the first link in the first post...


that's the same link :D

It's in the word "This"

:D

JLEW1818
12/10/2009, 10:57 AM
dammit i didn't even notice "this"

was looking at the links bunched together

****

err

spatton713
12/20/2009, 02:46 PM
yup

Soonerwake
12/20/2009, 09:14 PM
Sorry guys...the whole textbook issue @ Alabama was no different then the IRS looking into the books of a company generating $70-$100 million a year in revenue. The ball got dropped somewhere.

10-15-20 years ago you could go interview for a job at McDonalds, and they started you on the same day. Now it takes a week to go through the hring procedure for a minimum wage job...just like it took damned near a week for a Bama fan to be able to post on this site.

Gotta keep out the riff-raff... :D

Trust me, 98% of us are on your side for this one.

Eielson
12/20/2009, 09:23 PM
Alabama should be playing, but Texas shouldn't. They stole TCU's spot.