Surprising leader for the heisman...

[Soonerus]

....check it out at: stiffarmtrophy.com ...

[Blues1]

Hell Yea....!!!!

http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com

[spatton713]

wow no way

[SoonerTank]

That would be to funny!!!

[OUHOMER]

That is a decent lead too...... either of their top 2 would be fine with me

[Soonerus]

would be great...

[instigator]

That would be sweet to see Suh in NYC. That dude is sick!

[bringit]

"NOTE: It's very, very early; the numbers will look wacky for a while."

how is pony boy so high on this list?

[stoopified]

my personal pick is :
1) Suh
2)Gerhart
3)Ingram.

[Sasakwa]

Who will Bradford vote for?

[MyT Oklahoma]

Well heck.. Suh outplayed McCoy in a head-to-head game on a neutral field.. so according to Mack Brown the winner should be (drumroll please)........

P.S. What goes around comes around.

[badger]

This would definitely be the year to choose a player from a non-major school, a non-quarterback, or even a non-offensive player.

[Collier11]

Awesome, he is the most consistently great player ive seen all yr, Id be happy if he won it

[OUHOMER]

reminds me when Roy Williams came close

[proud gonzo]

Seriously, I hope Suh wins. Dude deserves it.

[sooner59]

This would be the best thing to happen outside of a Sooner winning it.

[OU-HSV]

my personal pick is :
1) Suh
2)Gerhart
3)Ingram.

Ditto

[tommieharris91]

I'm just gonna yell out "small sample size" for right now and wait until later in the week. I think Suh is a deserving candidate, though, and I wouldn't be unhappy if he wins it.

[Collier11]

There are alot of votes for Ingram out there that havent come in yet id imagine

[TUSooner]

ABC
Anybody But Colt

[Hot Rod]

my personal pick is :
1) Suh
2)Gerhart
3)Ingram.

That would be nice seeing a Heisman trophy presentation without Tebow.

[tbl]

Suh should lock it up. If anyone else wins it, it'll be Ingram for being on the Tide. However, Suh deserves it. Week in, week out, he is an absolute game changer. Just a freak of a lineman.

[PLaw]

That would be to funny!!!

No, that would be FAIR and JUSTIFIED.

Without doubt, Suh is the best player in college football, period.

BOOMER and damn proud of the Little Red against the whorns.

[proud gonzo]

That would be nice seeing a Heisman trophy presentation without Tebow.
or Chucky

[WVSooner]

At this point there is no invite for Ingram.

[tulsaoilerfan]

I'm happy with anyone but Colt and Timmay

[OUHOMER]

Gerhart has taken the lead, over night

[AlbqSooner]

Go Gerhart. Typically Heisman winners donn't do well in their bowl game.

[Jacie]

OUr knock on Ponyboy is that he plays for sa*et. Numbers-wise, he deserves consideration but everything is relative. Statistically, he was better in 2008 than 2009 save for the most important stat of all, the W-L column. Let the voters decide.

[sooner518]

OUr knock on Ponyboy is that he plays for sa*et. Numbers-wise, he deserves consideration but everything is relative. Statistically, he was better in 2008 than 2009 save for the most important stat of all, the W-L column. Let the voters decide.

and therein lies the problem. he didnt win it last year so voters tend to hold him to the same standard. When he performs worse on the field, I think people see that as the relevant point, not his stats compared to everyone else in the field.

personally, Im fine if Suh or Gerhart wins it. I really dont think Colt deserves it this year. Suh is just totally dominant

[OUmillenium]

Toby all the way.

[Widescreen]

Gerhart or Suh would be fantastic. I've been aboard the Gerhart train for several weeks but it would be great for a defensive player to win it for once.

[Hot Rod]

Gerhart or Suh would be fantastic. I've been aboard the Gerhart train for several weeks but it would be great for a defensive player to win it for once.

Both players have had tremendous years. I'll be happy with either of these athletes.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Suh should lock it up. If anyone else wins it, it'll be Ingram for being on the Tide. However, Suh deserves it. Week in, week out, he is an absolute game changer. Just a freak of a lineman.

^^^ This!

[Jello Biafra]

a sidenote...i didnt see the texas/ska game but in the highlights, it looked really bad for the texas center. is it my imagination or did habern/our line do a better job aginst him than texas did? it seemed like in the highlights, they showed every other play mccoy was getting smoked by suh

[NormanPride]

Didn't we have to run Lepak out there that game?

[homerSimpsonsBrain]

9 sacks according to USA Today. 4.5 by Suh. He pretty much made the entire texas O-line his bitch

[Jello Biafra]

Didn't we have to run Lepak out there that game?

seems like it...we didnt give up 9 sacks though lol

[Sasakwa]

Suh plays on defense. Suh plays on a 4 loss team. Suh will not win the Heisman.

[Jello Biafra]

Suh plays on defense. Suh plays on a 4 loss team. Suh will not win the Heisman.

i understand what you are saying. the same argument as last year. the best PLAYER in college football.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

i understand what you are saying. the same argument as last year. the best PLAYER in college football.

Given the lack of talent this year, why not a D guy? Suh has had as great of an impact for his team this year as Bradford or Teblow had the years they won the Heisman. Without Suh, Nebbish is not in the CCG and most likely would have lost to OU and a few others...I just hope they don't cycle Colty boy into the award...

[Taxman71]

Sad that players like AD, Joe Washington and Peyton Manning didn't win a Heisman, but there are years like this when they are just looking for anyone halfway deserving to give it away to.

[badger]

I really would prefer that Suh win... the new avatar is to make those who think my avatar has been bad luck all season be quiet :D

However, I would be happy with ANYone winning that isn't from Texas or Florida.

[jumperstop]

I would prefer gerhart, I don't want Nebbish getting any more winners. But either of those is better the Colt. Suh probably stole many of the votes that Colt would have gotten.

[TexasLidig8r]

If Colt doesn't win it (and he won't because the Eastern Sports Promotional Network has already declared Alabama the National Champs and will disregard Mark Ingram's 30 yards against Allbarn and will award him the Hypesman)..

Then...

KingKongDammit Suh has been transcendent this year. He was ripping the arms off of our offensive linemen and throwing them at Colt.

[josh09]

Gerhart should get it. Then we can shut him down and show to the nation how good our defense is.

[Jello Biafra]

If Colt doesn't win it (and he won't because the Eastern Sports Promotional Network has already declared Alabama the National Champs and will disregard Mark Ingram's 30 yards against Allbarn and will award him the Hypesman)..

Then...

KingKongDammit Suh has been transcendent this year. He was ripping the arms off of our offensive linemen and throwing them at Colt.

well, if they can overlook the fact that colt was shown up by a redshirt freshman and colt's terrible 127 yard 1 td 1 int performance against a lowered tiered (terrible OU) bowl team, why can't they overlook an off day by a running back?

[Collier11]

Come on Lid, you know Colt doesnt deserve the Heisman this year, it isnt a career achievement award. Listen, the guy is great and a class act and I hope he has a great Pro career (mark it down, the 1st horn in history who I hope does well in the pros, probably the last) but he hasnt been that great this year.

In his biggest games (no im not counting A&M, I realize they are a big rival but they are horrible) he hasnt been that good.

Vs OU, Tech, Neb, and Osu here are his stats

81/130 62% 687 yds 3 tds and 6 int 52yds rushing 1td

The guy has played lights out against the other 8 avg-bad teams he has played, 24tds and 6 ints as opposed to Ingram and Suh whose biggest games came in their teams biggest games. Sorry Lid, he is completely undeserving


On top of that, he almost single handedly cost his team a shot at the natl title with the dumbest move ive seen in a long time on that last play. Mack can spin it how he wants but that game was almost lost on Colt screwing around at the end, some have even argued that if he hadnt been pressured as much he might not have even gotten the throw off in time, can you imagine the meltdown.

[Jello Biafra]

Come on Lid, you know Colt doesnt deserve the Heisman this year, it isnt a career achievement award. Listen, the guy is great and a class act and I hope he has a great Pro career (mark it down, the 1st horn in history who I hope does well in the pros, probably the last) but he hasnt been that great this year.

In his biggest games (no im not counting A&M, I realize they are a big rival but they are horrible) he hasnt been that good.

Vs OU, Tech, Neb, and Osu here are his stats

81/130 62% 687 yds 3 tds and 6 int 52yds rushing 1td

The guy has played lights out against the other 8 avg-bad teams he has played, 24tds and 6 ints as opposed to Ingram and Suh whose biggest games came in their teams biggest games. Sorry Lid, he is completely undeserving


On top of that, he almost single handedly cost his team a shot at the natl title with the dumbest move ive seen in a long time on that last play. Mack can spin it how he wants but that game was almost lost on Colt screwing around at the end, some have even argued that if he hadnt been pressured as much he might not have even gotten the throw off in time, can you imagine the meltdown.

+1

[Widescreen]

Come on Lid, you know Colt doesnt deserve the Heisman this year, it isnt a career achievement award. Listen, the guy is great and a class act and I hope he has a great Pro career (mark it down, the 1st horn in history who I hope does well in the pros, probably the last) but he hasnt been that great this year.

In his biggest games (no im not counting A&M, I realize they are a big rival but they are horrible) he hasnt been that good.

Vs OU, Tech, Neb, and Osu here are his stats

81/130 62% 687 yds 3 tds and 6 int 52yds rushing 1td

The guy has played lights out against the other 8 avg-bad teams he has played, 24tds and 6 ints as opposed to Ingram and Suh whose biggest games came in their teams biggest games. Sorry Lid, he is completely undeserving


On top of that, he almost single handedly cost his team a shot at the natl title with the dumbest move ive seen in a long time on that last play. Mack can spin it how he wants but that game was almost lost on Colt screwing around at the end, some have even argued that if he hadnt been pressured as much he might not have even gotten the throw off in time, can you imagine the meltdown.
Agreed. Colt was deserving last year. This year, not so much.

[rawlingsHOH]

Texas won in spite of McCoy, against the better Big 12 teams. He was terrible. Shipley is their best offensive player.

[IronHorseSooner]

Texas won in spite of McCoy, against the better Big 12 teams. He was terrible. Shipley is their best offensive player.

Agreed! Without Shipley and Lawrence, * would have been sunk a few times.

[cjames317]

Any reports on who got votes from Sam, Jason, Billy and Steve?

[JLEW1818]

they don't need to look at Colts all time wins, nor do they need to look at the fact that Alabama has never won a Heisman....

this is the 2009 Heisman... not ****ing what u did last year, and what has never happened.

[recemp]

Who's OJ voting for?

[sooner59]

they don't need to look at Colts all time wins, nor do they need to look at the fact that Alabama has never won a Heisman....

this is the 2009 Heisman... not ****ing what u did last year, and what has never happened.

Yep.

[Taxman71]

Any reports on who got votes from Sam, Jason, Billy and Steve?

Sam voted for Colt per stiffarmtrophy....as did Spencer Tillman.

[Sabanball]

Mark Ingram has pulled ahead of Toby Gerhart.

http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/

BTW, I agree, the Heisman is for what you did THIS season, NOT a lifetime achievement award(referring to Colt McCoy)

[proud gonzo]

pulled ahead on the projection, anyway. not the actual votes they list.

[Collier11]

Their projections are quite accurate

[Jello Biafra]

well, 60% of the people on ESPN say suh is the best college player. i agreed and voted as such. 19,000 voates and i be one of them

[Bourbon St Sooner]

I really would prefer that Suh win... the new avatar is to make those who think my avatar has been bad luck all season be quiet :D

However, I would be happy with ANYone winning that isn't from Texas or Florida.

You will nevar shut me up!

WHO KILLED KENNEY? YOU KILLED KENNEY!!

[/ducks]

[TUSooner]

link bump

http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com

[salth2o]

Ingram is gonna win it.

[TheUnnamedSooner]

Suh has the most 1st place votes.

[salth2o]

Suh has the most 1st place votes.

Saint Cries-alot had more 1st place votes last year and finished 3rd.

[Crucifax Autumn]

At least the 2 I can't stand are down at the bottom.

[Jdog]

well, if they can overlook the fact that colt was shown up by a redshirt freshman and colt's terrible 127 yard 1 td 1 int performance against a lowered tiered (terrible OU) bowl team, why can't they overlook an off day by a running back?

Don't forget his 2 fumbles against the Sooners - the sack and the one on the one yard line.

[Crucifax Autumn]

And don't forget he's both a giant doosh AND a turd sandwich.