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ouduckhunter

12/3/2009, 07:30 PM

OMG! I honestly did not see this happening, or at least not happening this soon!

I guess Kansas wanted to get their new coach search started while the pickins are still good.

Petro-Sooner

12/3/2009, 07:30 PM

Too bad.

BoulderSooner79

12/3/2009, 07:31 PM

There's got to be a fat joke in there somewhere.

How about "Mangino to ND where Wies left some big pants to fill."

StoopTroup

12/3/2009, 07:31 PM

KU's loss IMO.

Leroy Lizard

12/3/2009, 07:35 PM

How terribly sad.

Oh ho!! :D

Funky G

12/3/2009, 07:52 PM

BRING HIM BACK TO NORMAN. NOW.

badger

12/3/2009, 07:57 PM

Retire, Mark. You're too good for a game that includes crappy Kansas.

unbiasedtruth

12/3/2009, 08:04 PM

would Stoops hire MM back as OU's OC and demote or fire KW?

thesnowbishop

12/3/2009, 08:08 PM

Kansas: football is not for you.

OU-HSV

12/3/2009, 08:08 PM

would Stoops hire MM back as OU's OC and demote or fire KW?

Nope he wouldn't

Scott D

12/3/2009, 08:12 PM

I give Bill Self 18 months at most.

StoopTroup

12/3/2009, 08:26 PM

The positive is....we don't have to worry when we play KU for a long time....at least until Mangino is the AD there.

soonerboy

12/3/2009, 08:44 PM

Did you hear the end of the report from joe shad? he said the possibilites are the UCONN coach, brent venables, and kevin sumlin.

VA Sooner

12/3/2009, 08:51 PM

Would create more havoc in the Big 12, wouldn't it?

Veritas

12/3/2009, 08:54 PM

Hopefully this means we won't have to see his or Weis' repulsive forms on our TVs next year.

ndpruitt03

12/3/2009, 09:00 PM

ESPN's Joe Schad first reported the story on Thursday night.

Now we may see that Mangino gets a raise tomorrow morning.

My Opinion Matters

12/3/2009, 09:09 PM

It never fails to impress me how short and selective the collective memory of our fanbase is. If the current discontent surrounding Kevin Wilson is deafening, the discontent towards Mangino was eardrum-shattering. There could have been a parade here the day he was hired away by KU.

soonerinabilene

12/3/2009, 09:10 PM

would Stoops hire MM back as OU's OC and demote or fire KW?

god i hope not. remember the 01 offense?

My Opinion Matters

12/3/2009, 09:11 PM

god i hope not. remember the 01 offense?

d00d, that was like so 8 years ago!

ndpruitt03

12/3/2009, 09:12 PM

god i hope not. remember the 01 offense?

The 01 offensive line had 1 or 2 good players and a bunch of freshman. I would still take that line over this one

HBick

12/3/2009, 09:19 PM

And Kansas can return to being irrelevant like they were for the first 100 years of their existence.

TheHumanAlphabet

12/3/2009, 09:26 PM

Well, Perkins got his man...I am thinking this is Nebbish all over again. Perkins will destroy this school putting his [****]mark all over it. I wish Mangino well and know he got screwed. I wish for KU to fall into cellar dwelling obscurity forever.

sooner ngintunr

12/3/2009, 09:32 PM

KU's loss IMO.

For sure. IMO.

tulsaoilerfan

12/3/2009, 09:50 PM

BRING HIM BACK TO NORMAN. NOW.

NO

Leroy Lizard

12/3/2009, 09:54 PM

You meant, "No, IMO."

BoulderSooner79

12/4/2009, 12:24 AM

would Stoops hire MM back as OU's OC and demote or fire KW?

Did you forget the smiley? :confused:

Soonerman08

12/4/2009, 12:54 AM

god i hope not. remember the 01 offense?

As I recall he didn't cost us the National Championship, unlike Kevin Wilson.

12/4/2009, 12:55 AM

Sumlin would be a quality hire.

goingoneight

12/4/2009, 01:34 AM

As I recall he didn't cost us the National Championship, unlike Kevin Wilson.

Kevin Wilson scored 14 in the MNC. Mangino scored 13.

Apples... Oranges.

Leroy Lizard

12/4/2009, 03:07 AM

As I recall he didn't cost us the National Championship, unlike Kevin Wilson.

Wilson got us there.

snp

12/4/2009, 03:56 AM

BRING HIM BACK TO NORMAN. NOW.

As if we really need more problems with offensive line attrition.

sendbaht

12/4/2009, 04:04 AM

sad really, but I guess crap happens. He recieved the wrong end
of the stick.

SoonerDood

12/4/2009, 05:23 AM

TUSooner

12/4/2009, 07:43 AM

After careful consideration, we have decided that we're just not interested in having a decent football program.

:rolleyes:

King Barry's Back

12/4/2009, 08:15 AM

would Stoops hire MM back as OU's OC and demote or fire KW?

No.

adoniijahsooner

12/4/2009, 08:22 AM

Kevin Wilson scored 14 in the MNC. Mangino scored 13.

Apples... Oranges.

Well, at the beginning of the year Kevin Wilson said it wasnt about scoring more, it was about being able to score in crucial situations to win the game. By his own formula Mangino is the better coordinator.

adoniijahsooner

12/4/2009, 08:25 AM

Wilson got us there.

Mangino has a ring.

TheHumanAlphabet

12/4/2009, 10:35 AM

Did you hear the end of the report from joe shad? he said the possibilites are the UCONN coach, brent venables, and kevin sumlin.

I doubt Brent or Kevin would go into that cesspool. Kevin is a rising star and doesn't need KU. Kevin has a good thing at Houston and a year or two more, he will probably go big time. KU ain't big time.

OUDoc

12/4/2009, 10:40 AM

Careful with the assumptions. Some dumas from The Bleacher Report will post it as fact.

NormanPride

12/4/2009, 11:12 AM

boomermagic

12/4/2009, 11:36 AM

KU's loss IMO.

I agree !

badger

12/4/2009, 11:38 AM

I wonder what the new coach will be allowed to do...
http://i47.tinypic.com/2igk5eo.jpg

budbarrybob

12/4/2009, 11:47 AM

Mangino wins 3 bowl games while he was there matching the previous 101 yrs. Strong work AD... :confused:

ndpruitt03

12/4/2009, 12:09 PM

Mangino had 2 losses in his career as an OC at OU. Kevin Wilson has only had less than 3 losses once in a season since he took over as OC.

badger

12/4/2009, 12:09 PM

I don't see any current or former OU assistants going to KU after the way they treated Fightin' Mangina.

I expect the program to be cursed for two reasons:

1- They fired a coach who was two wins shy of being the all-time winningest.
2- They named their football field after the disgraced SemGroup guy.

Seriously, so long as Jayhawks have to play on "Kivisto Field," they are going to be awful. Eff you Perkins. Eff you to heck.

BoulderSooner79

12/4/2009, 03:49 PM

There's always 2 sides to every story and I seriously doubt we'll ever know the complete version of either side. If I were considering hiring Mark, I would make sure I got all the facts. This wasn't about the losing streak.

yankee

12/4/2009, 04:52 PM

I doubt Brent or Kevin would go into that cesspool. Kevin is a rising star and doesn't need KU. Kevin has a good thing at Houston and a year or two more, he will probably go big time. KU ain't big time.

there's a reason people from texas call U of H, cougar high. kansas would be a big step up. much better facilities, bigger and better fanbase, higher pay, more tv exposure. all this would turn into better recruiting for KU. but i do agree, i don't think sumlin will take the KU job though.

RedstickSooner

12/4/2009, 05:11 PM

BRING HIM BACK TO NORMAN. NOW.

Bwahahahahaha!

Er, wait -- you *are* kidding, right?

RedstickSooner

12/4/2009, 05:17 PM

Mangino had 2 losses in his career as an OC at OU. Kevin Wilson has only had less than 3 losses once in a season since he took over as OC.

Your logic is flawless.

'Course, I *could* point out this little nugget:

WE HAVE NEVER LOST A GAME DURING A BYE WEEK! EVER! NOT ONE!

But if I did, I'd be a dick.

Seriously -- Mangino had about as much to do with those wins as I did. He coached one good offense -- in 2000 -- and *that* offense wasn't his. It was Leach's, and it was called at the line by Heupel, one of the best on-the-field playcallers we've ever had. Maybe the best. (Which is why I wouldn't mind scrapping everything and just putting Josh in at OC, even if he hasn't paid his dues. Might be fun to see how he'd run it.)

ndpruitt03

12/4/2009, 06:01 PM

Your logic is flawless.

'Course, I *could* point out this little nugget:

WE HAVE NEVER LOST A GAME DURING A BYE WEEK! EVER! NOT ONE!

But if I did, I'd be a dick.

Seriously -- Mangino had about as much to do with those wins as I did. He coached one good offense -- in 2000 -- and *that* offense wasn't his. It was Leach's, and it was called at the line by Heupel, one of the best on-the-field playcallers we've ever had. Maybe the best. (Which is why I wouldn't mind scrapping everything and just putting Josh in at OC, even if he hasn't paid his dues. Might be fun to see how he'd run it.)

Josh Heupel didn't call 2 option plays against KSU out of nowhere. Mangino never had near as much talent as Kevin Wilson has had. Even if you count this years team.

Scott D

12/4/2009, 06:26 PM

After the way they treated Mark, there's no way Venables or Sumlin go there. Stoops looks out for his homeboys. Also, Houston -> Kansas is a lateral move at best.

And Scott, I've heard that the AD doesn't like Self because he didn't hire him. Do you really think he'll be THAT stupid?

Tis the same reason he didn't like Mangino. And no, I wouldn't be surprised if he either uses this situation as a warning to Self, or decides to go ahead and pursue this same method on Self.

Right now the job is Edsel's to lose...I have a feeling he'll turn it down though.

ndpruitt03

12/4/2009, 06:42 PM

Tis the same reason he didn't like Mangino. And no, I wouldn't be surprised if he either uses this situation as a warning to Self, or decides to go ahead and pursue this same method on Self.

Right now the job is Edsel's to lose...I have a feeling he'll turn it down though.

I think he can possibly win the Big East in the future. He'll have trouble winning the Big 12 North at Kansas.

badger

12/4/2009, 06:48 PM

Tis the same reason he didn't like Mangino. And no, I wouldn't be surprised if he either uses this situation as a warning to Self, or decides to go ahead and pursue this same method on Self.

Right now the job is Edsel's to lose...I have a feeling he'll turn it down though.

Well, if he fired a coach that just won an Orange Bowl, then a coach that just won a national title can't feel too secure.

I know I've seen Self raise his voice from courtside a few occasions. :rolleyes:

royalfan5

12/5/2009, 08:29 AM

Well, if he fired a coach that just won an Orange Bowl, then a coach that just won a national title can't feel too secure.

I know I've seen Self raise his voice from courtside a few occasions. :rolleyes:

Of course, he also fires a coach that lost seven games in a row this year with the best QB, and WR in the programs history. Do you think Stoops could lose 7 games in a row and still keep his job? Going to bowls in this day and age is not a real accomplishment. You can schedule 4 wins every season, and win two games at home and you are in a bowl. Mangino's record in conference play was 23-41 with only one winning season. If you can't do better than in the North, do you really deserve to keep running a program?

Scott D

12/5/2009, 09:23 AM

Of course, he also fires a coach that lost seven games in a row this year with the best QB, and WR in the programs history. Do you think Stoops could lose 7 games in a row and still keep his job? Going to bowls in this day and age is not a real accomplishment. You can schedule 4 wins every season, and win two games at home and you are in a bowl. Mangino's record in conference play was 23-41 with only one winning season. If you can't do better than in the North, do you really deserve to keep running a program?

I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about Kansas, not a program, not a program, not a program, but we're talking about Kansas. Not the program that I go out there and watch every game like it's my last but we're talking about Kansas man. How silly is that?

IronHorseSooner

12/5/2009, 09:40 AM

I remember people calling for Mangino's head after the loss to OSU in 2001. I remember people talking about Stoops doing the "Mangino, in my office, NOW!," after the game.

Salt City Sooner

12/5/2009, 08:12 PM

Turner Gill's interviewing tomorrow, per ABC & NBC local stations up here.

mightysooner

12/5/2009, 10:54 PM

Why would they interview Turner Gill? He's done nothing with Buffalo.

Piware

12/6/2009, 02:37 AM

The deck was stacked against Mangino from the day this news broke. Reminds me of what happened to Houston Nutt by the Mommy Squad whose brilliant little spawns have seen very little playing time at USuC.

Maybe Turner Gill can recruit some thug homeboys and KU can see how much fun it is to deal with it. Hope KU goes back to their hole and doesn't win another game in this century.

Crucifax Autumn

12/6/2009, 02:42 AM

I hope whoever they bring in has discipline problems on and off the field. Would be nice to hear some talking heads next year saying that the players need a strong and controlling coach to guide them.

OUstud

12/6/2009, 02:49 AM

Why would they interview Turner Gill? He's done nothing with Buffalo.

Seriously? He won the MAC with them. Look up what UB was before he got there...

StoopTroup

12/6/2009, 02:59 AM

I know I gave Mark a good deal of business when he was Coaching against us...

That's all behind me unless K-State hires him.

Good Luck to Mark wherever he gets his next head-job. :D

Crucifax Autumn

12/6/2009, 03:01 AM

lol...I pity the bitch that has to wedge her head under his gut for that!

btk108

12/6/2009, 03:17 AM

kansas...welcome to the bottom of the Big 12 north....dumbasses

Leroy Lizard

12/6/2009, 03:33 AM

If Mangino did anything that would warrant his dismissal, it shouldn't matter what his record is. Winning shouldn't give one a license to abuse people, if that is indeed what took place.

Winning is important, but we also need to keep it in perspective.

Crucifax Autumn

12/6/2009, 03:41 AM

Yeah, but his current players and a lot of former players say he's great. A few whiny pansies that can't handle being disciplined or yelled at needed to STFU and take up solitaire.

Leroy Lizard

12/6/2009, 04:37 AM

But there may be more to it than that. Remember, he is the coach that totally unloaded on a parking attendant. If anything, he should have been severely reprimanded for that action and forced to apologize. What else has taken place that we don't know about?

gaylordfan1

12/6/2009, 05:46 AM

Well, he did eat that parking attendant.........There must have been wittnesses...... or else the story would have went unheard of!

Crucifax Autumn

12/6/2009, 06:50 AM

No witnesses, but you could clearly make out the shape of the lump in his gut. In Mangino's defense though the attendant was wearing a shirt made of bacon and told him to "Eat me".