Yahoo Sports reporting that Murray may bolt.

[adoniijahsooner]

I think it would be a smart move, especially if he tears it up in the bowl game. This year has shown what type of back Murray is and how tough he runs, and with him being a very good reciever out of the back field he @ least needs to test the waters.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-directsnap12010&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

• Look for Oklahoma junior running back DeMarco Murray to test his value in the NFL draft with him likely to leave the Sooners, especially if coach Bob Stoops bolts in the next month, according to a source monitoring the situation. Murray is projected as a late-first round pick by some people and perhaps the third-best running back in the draft despite coming off a subpar season.

[My Opinion Matters]

Late first-round draft pick? Are these the same geniuses that had Malcolm Kelley as a top 10 pick?

He's a 3rd round guy at best.

[SoonerPr8r]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-directsnap12010&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Look for Oklahoma junior running back DeMarco Murray to test his value in the NFL draft with him likely to leave the Sooners, especially if coach Bob Stoops bolts in the next month
So people are STILL reporting Bob is leaving?
http://nymeria87.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/facepalm1.jpg
Also I think he has still not proven that he can handle a ton of carries without getting hurt. After every game that he has gotten more than 20 carries a game he seems to be "nicked up" or just off the next week

[adoniijahsooner]

If he is late first round he should leave. If its only a 3rd, he should stay.

[adoniijahsooner]

So people are STILL reporting Bob is leaving?
http://nymeria87.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/facepalm1.jpg
Also I think he has still not proven that he can handle a ton of carries without getting hurt. After every game that he has gotten more than 20 carries a game he seems to be "nicked up" or just off the next week

I know that is stupid. I mean the Bob leaving stuff.

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

This discussion came up awhile back and I'm pretty sure the general consensus was he was at best a 3-4 round guy. If they base part of this on Stoops' departure, well we all know he's taken care of this rumor. If for some reason he can get round 1-2 money.......I say go for it. Our future at tailback looks pretty bright with the guys we have and those coming in. Although it'd be nice to have a bit more experience in the backfield.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I think he should go no matter what, because I don't think he can improve his status beyond what it is now...Improving his status would mean playing a healthy season and being able to carry the bulk of the load, 2 things Im not sure he can do.

[adoniijahsooner]

This discussion came up awhile back and I'm pretty sure the general consensus was he was at best a 3-4 round guy. If they base part of this on Stoops' departure, well we all know he's taken care of this rumor. If for some reason he can get round 1-2 money.......I say go for it. Our future at tailback looks pretty bright with the guys we have and those coming in. Although it'd be nice to have a bit more experience in the backfield.

Running back is the one position that can shine without much exp.

[adoniijahsooner]

I think he should go no matter what, because I don't think he can improve his status beyond what it is now...Improving his status would mean playing a healthy season and being able to carry the bulk of the load, 2 things Im not sure he can do.

The NFL has change to a multiple back league. Even AD dont get near the carries he got in college, which may be why he is blowing everyone away. I see him being a change of pace back.

[badger]

About 100 guys are projected as first round picks every year... by Mel Kiper, of course.

Please, Sooner football players - do the math and realize that not all 100 of you projected to be taken in the "mid to late first round" cannot possibly be taken in the first round.

...well, unless Miserly Ol' Al of Oakland has his eyes on you.

[SoonerMavrick25]

As the case for all OU football players .... this pre draft hype is subject to change after 40 yard dashes are ran......

But really you can't fault a kid for wanting to make some money...

He can catch the ball... has some decent moves... I am guessing that he can pass protect... Looks like a nfl third down back to me.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

The NFL has change to a multiple back league. Even AD dont get near the carries he got in college, which may be why he is blowing everyone away. I see him being a change of pace back.

Yeah, but Murray can't even handle the carries in college...the pounding from NFL defenses is a lot more intense than NCAA......

Nobody is going to spend 1st round money on a guy who cant carry the ball a lot

[Sooner04]

Nobody is going to spend 1st round money on a guy who cant carry the ball a lot
They did for Reggie Bush, and I think Bush's "production" in the NFL is the reason why teams are gunshy on drafting scatbacks like Murray. Third round? Sure, go for it. First? Not a chance.

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

Running back is the one position that can shine without much exp.

I do agree with that. I guess where my only concern would be is when a back has to block. That is usually something developed over the college years and other than that.......I think we'll be just fine if he goes.

[NormanPride]

I think he should go, too. As much as I would LOVE to have him back - he's a huge part of our offense - I think he would just be losing another year if he came back. He's not going to get any more healthy or fast, so... what's the point in coming back?

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

I'll be curious to see his 40 time at the combine. Looks like he's lost some of the breakaway speed for sure but def not his quickness. Combine will completely make or break DM's draft status. He really doesn't have much to gain if he comes back so go for it.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Take a look at the backs from last season's draft and how much they handled
1st round
1. Moreno...A lot of carries
2. Donald Brown....a ton of carries
3. Wells...the guy was injured more than anyone I've seen, but he still ended up with a lot of yards and only missed a few games....

2nd Round

4. LeSean McCoy....lots of carries

3rd Round

5. Shonn Green...feature back, lots of carries
6. Glenn Coffee...


The list goes on but 2 things.

1. All those guys were feature backs that could carrie the rock a lot.
2. Only 6 rbs taken in the first three rounds..(unless Im missing one)..I would say thats why DM falls into the 4th or later.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

They did for Reggie Bush, and I think Bush's "production" in the NFL is the reason why teams are gunshy on drafting scatbacks like Murray. Third round? Sure, go for it. First? Not a chance.

Exactly...and I think most would say that Reggie Bush has been a bit of disappointment.. and...

He was guy that can KR, PR, play WR, and RB at the same level at each position...In fact, most scouts felt like he was a better talent at WR than RB...

[Bonehead]

As the case for all OU football players .... this pre draft hype is subject to change after 40 yard dashes are ran......

But really you can't fault a kid for wanting to make some money...

He can catch the ball... has some decent moves... I am guessing that he can pass protect... Looks like a nfl third down back to me.

I agree that Murray looks like a third down back in the NFL.

When DeMarco came he was clearly a flash and dash runner who made people miss and then out raced them down the field. But now after putting on some pounds and being coached to use his power more he looks to me like he's caught between and can't figure out what kind of runner he is.

I'd love to see him get back to being a back who kept defensive players on their heels, afraid to take him on for fear they'd be left grabbing nothing but air.

If he can go make some money, he should go. Looks like Calhoun is going to be ready next year to fill his shoes.

[Bourbon St Sooner]

They did for Reggie Bush, and I think Bush's "production" in the NFL is the reason why teams are gunshy on drafting scatbacks like Murray. Third round? Sure, go for it. First? Not a chance.

I definitely see Murray filling a Reggie Bush type role in the NFL. Reggie's proven to not be No 2 worthy but he's still a big weopon in the Saints attack. Actually, Murray should be better than Bush because he will actually run it between the tackles. I think Murray would be a good addition to the Patriots. Now what round teams are looking for that kind of player, I don't know.

[Collier11]

Exactly...and I think most would say that Reggie Bush has been a bit of disappointment.. and...

He was guy that can KR, PR, play WR, and RB at the same level at each position...In fact, most scouts felt like he was a better talent at WR than RB...

See this is what I dont get, disappointing in what aspect? The guy has been an explosive return guy when back there, one of their leading receivers, and has averaged over 1200 all purpose yds per season coming into this year as well as 8 tds a year.

Now I really thought he would be able to be a big time rusher, getting over 1000 yds easily and in that aspect he has been a disappointment but he is still producing quite a bit for them

[Collier11]

with what ive seen out of Calhoun and Miller and with Finch and Clay coming in, I think we will be ok but I would prefer he comes back

[stoops the eternal pimp]

75 yards a game average when you play all those positions isn't much

Edit: Its more than that because he has only played one full season.....bu still factoring in return yards, he should have more than that.....

[badger]

Someone should tell those ****tards that Murray had a friend whom worked at that particular Yahoo Sports. It had nothing to do with the program. Just two stupid kids - one is a hanger on , the other is an athlete that showed some potential for stardom. end of story.

...wrong thread? :O

[Sooner04]

75 yards a game average when you play all those positions isn't much

Edit: Its more than that because he has only played one full season.....bu still factoring in return yards, he should have more than that.....
Especially for 2nd pick money. Look how good the Saints "O" was on Monday night without Bush. Didn't miss a beat.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

See this is what I dont get, disappointing in what aspect? The guy has been an explosive return guy when back there, one of their leading receivers, and has averaged over 1200 all purpose yds per season coming into this year as well as 8 tds a year.

Now I really thought he would be able to be a big time rusher, getting over 1000 yds easily and in that aspect he has been a disappointment but he is still producing quite a bit for them

Just to tell you how unimpressive his all purpose yards are, Leon Washington from the Jets had over 2300 yards last year...

[Collier11]

Yea he def wasnt #2 worthy and because of that he is a disappointment, my only point was that he is a pretty good nfl player, not great by any means but pretty good.

What is unfortunate for him is I remember that MNF game last yr where he looked like the old Reggie, had two punt returns for TD and looked explosive, then he got hurt again

[stoops the eternal pimp]

yup, I remember that game...It looked like somebody shot him out of a cannon on those returns......

For a number 2, a big disappointment...The GM for the Texans took a beating in the media for taking mario williams instead

[Sooner in Tampa]

According to the Saints Reggie is not worth $8 million he is due next yr...so he will be playing somewhere else...I don't think that makes him "overrated", it just means he's not worth that much money to them...but I have a feeling with an uncapped year coming...someone will pay him just about that much

[Collier11]

yep I remember that

[Sooner in Tampa]

The GM for the Texans took a beating in the media for taking mario williams instead Personally, I would rather have Mario Williams anyway

[Collier11]

75 yards a game average when you play all those positions isn't much

Edit: Its more than that because he has only played one full season.....bu still factoring in return yards, he should have more than that.....

He has played in 38 games in the previous 3 years, that gives him an avg of 96 yards per game

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

the problem is cj spiller though. he is a better fit for that reggie bush role than murray.

however, i'm with step on this one. if they think he can sneak into the first day he should go. the problem is that he has a lot of baggage that is going to weigh him down at the next level -> history of injuries at OU, OU player injuries in the NFL, system fit, etc. the biggest one is going to be that he most resembles tatum bell whose type of game just didn't translate to the NFL.

[Octavian]

• Look for Oklahoma junior running back DeMarco Murray to test his value in the NFL draft with him likely to leave the Sooners, especially if coach Bob Stoops bolts in the next month, according to a source monitoring the situation. Murray is projected as a late-first round pick by some people and perhaps the third-best running back in the draft despite coming off a subpar season.



had just about enough of these 'sources' this week....

[Sooner04]

What is unfortunate for him is I remember that MNF game last yr where he looked like the old Reggie, had two punt returns for TD and looked explosive, then he got hurt again
That MNF football game was against Minnesota, who were as bad on special teams as any NFL squad I can remember (including the 2009 Steelers).

And Now This...... (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/130230-saints-to-dump-bush-in-2010?eref=sihp)

[stoops the eternal pimp]

the problem is cj spiller though. he is a better fit for that reggie bush role than murray.

however, i'm with step on this one. if they think he can sneak into the first day he should go. the problem is that he has a lot of baggage that is going to weigh him down at the next level -> history of injuries at OU, OU player injuries in the NFL, system fit, etc. the biggest one is going to be that he most resembles tatum bell whose type of game just didn't translate to the NFL.

Depending on the health and 40 time of Best, Spiller is the only first round back I see

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Unless the Stanford horse runs a faster than suspected 40...

I also like Ryan Matthews from Fresno State as somebody who could move up quickly

[Scott D]

fwiw, Tatum Bell's biggest problem was that his sticky fingers never translated to on the field...

thank you, I'll be here all week.

[badger]

had just about enough of these 'sources' this week....

We're dying the grass on our field crimson next season. A source told me.

[rawlingsHOH]

• Look for Oklahoma junior running back DeMarco Murray to test his value in the NFL draft with him likely to leave the Sooners, especially if coach Bob Stoops bolts in the next month, according to a source monitoring the situation. Murray is projected as a late-first round pick by some people and perhaps the third-best running back in the draft despite coming off a subpar season.

I'd be SHOCKED!

[JLEW1818]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

I will give yall both of my testicles if he is drafted in the first round

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Unless the Stanford horse runs a faster than suspected 40...

I also like Ryan Matthews from Fresno State as somebody who could move up quickly

i just don't see too many running backs in the first round this year. there aren't a lot of teams in dire need of a running back with the emergence this year of a lot of retreads like cedric benson.

the teams at the bottom - seattle, indy, arizona, san diego - all have other needs and this is looking to be a bumper crop of talent coming out.

btw, step i used to hate the nfl. gah.

[Scott D]

I've got a feeling that the first round this year is likely to be at least 75% defensive players....just a gut feeling.

[JLEW1818]

I see Ryan Mallett being the **** in the NFL

that is all

[Breadburner]

Mistake.....

[JLEW1818]

I've got a feeling that the first round this year is likely to be at least 75% defensive players....just a gut feeling.

my buddy Walter has some interesting predictions..... I can't agree with him on some of them..

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

[Scott D]

there's a lot I can't agree with him on

[JLEW1818]

he is predicting 5 qbs in the first round.... no way!

[Scott D]

that's as unlikely as travis lewis in the first round.

[JLEW1818]

here is another one

http://newnfldraft.com/

[Scott D]

his reasoning for quite a few of those picks is quite silly.

[Sooner in Tampa]

here is another one

http://newnfldraft.com/
This one is worse...NO WAY the Buccaneers draft an Offensive Lineman in the first round...O-Line is the ONLY bright spot for our miserable 1 win season

No way in hell Sam is the first pick in the draft

[JLEW1818]

still lots of Jrs to make big decisions

[stoops the eternal pimp]

i just don't see too many running backs in the first round this year. there aren't a lot of teams in dire need of a running back with the emergence this year of a lot of retreads like cedric benson.

the teams at the bottom - seattle, indy, arizona, san diego - all have other needs and this is looking to be a bumper crop of talent coming out.

btw, step i used to hate the nfl. gah.

I don't see any top 15 backs...Spiller one of those guys may go off around 22-25 as the 1st rb taken...

What's funny is I used to hate it, especially right after free agency started....

[BoulderSooner79]

I assume DM will at least gather draft feedback. I think he would have done that last year if he hadn't been injured. Now he is a 4 year player with a lot of positives from an NFL point of view (size, strength, can catch). I don't know about his pass protection ability, but his size would help him there and he seems to be coachable. The big question is can he improve his stock by coming back and I don't see it. Just another year of wear and tear that could be done in the NFL while getting paid.

[rawlingsHOH]

I assume DM will at least gather draft feedback. I think he would have done that last year if he hadn't been injured. Now he is a 4 year player with a lot of positives from an NFL point of view (size, strength, can catch). I don't know about his pass protection ability, but his size would help him there and he seems to be coachable. The big question is can he improve his stock by coming back and I don't see it. Just another year of wear and tear that could be done in the NFL while getting paid.

It's a strength, and a good thing, as I probably see him as a 3rd down guy at the next level.

[Theskipster]

Murray has already said he will request draft feedback, and if he is expected to be drafted high then he will go ahead and go, otherwise he stays. He wants to stay at OU, but he won't pass up the money of a high draft pick.

[Collier11]

I think he could fit the role of a Darren Sproles with his return ability and catching ability, maybe not quite as explosive but there is still alot of money to be made there

[JLEW1818]

I think he could fit the role of a Darren Sproles with his return ability and catching ability, maybe not quite as explosive but there is still alot of money to be made there

yah, not nearly as explosive

I'm willing to put money on it that DM will run over a 4.55 at the combine... I'm thinking he is a 4.63ish

[badger]

Murray has already said he will request draft feedback, and if he is expected to be drafted high then he will go ahead and go, otherwise he stays. He wants to stay at OU, but he won't pass up the money of a high draft pick.

I know DM hasn't won the Heisman, but it would break my heart to see another Sooner bypass the draft out of team loyalty only to end up injury for most/all of the season like Sammie or Jermaine.

[tanjou]

Murray won't go very high in the draft. He'd benefit more from coming back and hopefully being injury free, showing some improvement, especially in the speed department.

As it stands, teams are going to be too worried about his health.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I assume DM will at least gather draft feedback. I think he would have done that last year if he hadn't been injured. Now he is a 4 year player with a lot of positives from an NFL point of view (size, strength, can catch). I don't know about his pass protection ability, but his size would help him there and he seems to be coachable. The big question is can he improve his stock by coming back and I don't see it. Just another year of wear and tear that could be done in the NFL while getting paid.

This...

[goingoneight]

Two knee surgeries in three years time will put him on the back burner. But as stated above, how much better can DM get? If he's given more oppurtunities without Brown in the way nest year he'd only *look* better, mostly because of stats.

[Collier11]

This...

This...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

one more year of taking hits, potential inuries....

[stoops the eternal pimp]

This...

I know, right?

[Collier11]

I know, right?

I know, right?

[Collier11]

one more year of taking hits, potential inuries....

My guess would be the only thing that could actually help him is to play a full season without getting hurt(unlikely) and have a huge year, 1500 yds rushing or something like that

[JLEW1818]

This...

This...

[JLEW1818]

My guess would be the only thing that could actually help him is to play a full season without getting hurt(unlikely) and have a huge year, 1500 yds rushing or something like that

I still think the QB and RB position should be open.. Yes DM has proved himself... but if Calhoun can give similar production, why not let him take over? b/c he is the future...

thoughts?

Clay, Finch?.... RS??? I'm sure one of them will

[Collier11]

Im sure one of them will RS and the other will waste a year getting 10 carries, lol

[JLEW1818]

and what is up with Madu ??? LOL

We thought he was just gonna fit right in......

[stoops the eternal pimp]

This...

This...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

My guess would be the only thing that could actually help him is to play a full season without getting hurt(unlikely) and have a huge year, 1500 yds rushing or something like that

Lets play the Dean Blevins percentage game...Just how likely is this scenario?

I would say below 10

[Collier11]

Lets play the Dean Blevins percentage game...Just how likely is this scenario?

I would say below 10

Lets play the Dean Blevins percentage game...Just how likely is this scenario?

I would say below 10

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Lets play the Dean Blevins percentage game...Just how likely is this scenario?

I would say below 10

c11 likes boys

[Collier11]

Jlew likes boys

Jlew likes boys

[stoops the eternal pimp]

c11 ran ck off because he touched him inappropriately

[Collier11]

Step ran CK off because he used his teeth too much whilst fallating

Step ran CK off because he used his teeth too much whilst fallating

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I know, right?

[Collier11]

Step ran CK off because he used his teeth too much whilst fallating


I know, right?

This...

[JLEW1818]

lol, CK also said that Trent Williams ran a 4.7

HA

[stoops the eternal pimp]

he said you had a large **** also

[JLEW1818]

Mrs. STEP said that??? oh really

[stoops the eternal pimp]

LOL.....

[JLEW1818]

LOL.....

this...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

this...

tHIS

[Collier11]

tHIS

ThIs!...

[JLEW1818]

yep

[sooner59]

Could you imagine New England's offense with a 4-wide set including Moss, Welker, Shipley, and Briscoe? Crap.

I think New England should worry about their defense more than anything.

[Scott D]

I bet one of those four would be benched for fumbling.

[picasso]

They did for Reggie Bush, and I think Bush's "production" in the NFL is the reason why teams are gunshy on drafting scatbacks like Murray. Third round? Sure, go for it. First? Not a chance.

At 218lbs. Murray is considered a scatback?

[BoulderSooner79]

At 218lbs. Murray is considered a scatback?

That's what I was wondering. DM is a pretty big and powerful guy and hard to compare to other backs. Maybe like a Steve Slaton or Joseph Addai - guys that are integral to the passing game.

[soonerborn30]

If Murray comes back he'll just have to split carries with Calhoun, just like he's doing now. He should be happy if he's drafted at all.

[BoulderSooner79]

If Murray comes back he'll just have to split carries with Calhoun, just like he's doing now. He should be happy if he's drafted at all.

If I bet on sports, I'd take that one. DM will do well in the draft (and I hope that is the 2011 draft).

[SoonerSinger3]

Yeah, but Murray can't even handle the carries in college...the pounding from NFL defenses is a lot more intense than NCAA......

Nobody is going to spend 1st round money on a guy who cant carry the ball a lot

Okay. Demarco's first injury at OU was a serious turf toe that happend in '06 when he redshirted. He probably plays that year without the injury.

His 2nd major injury was a patella(kneecap) injury on a fluke onside kick play against '07 against Texas Tech.

3rd injury was another fluke special teams play where he got hit against Mizzou on the opening kickoff last December.

So when you say "murray can't even handle the carries in college", that's really not true. Unless a minor hammy in practice, he has NEVER been injured on a traditional rush play. So the guy has simply had bad/fluke luck. Now, I know he has been seriously injured all the same, but to be specific he has handled the carries in college w/o problems. ;)

[Widescreen]

So when you say "murray can't even handle the carries in college", that's really not true. Unless a minor hammy in practice, he has NEVER been injured on a traditional rush play. So the guy has simply had bad/fluke luck. Now, I know he has been seriously injured all the same, but to be specific he has handled the carries in college w/o problems. ;)

No, he does get injured during carries. He's gotten dinged 2 or 3 times so far this year from carries. It happened when he did the front flip into the end zone (shoulder). He also got hurt during the Texas game I believe and had to miss some time.

I wish he hadn't turned into this physical bruising back because it seems he's made of, if not glass, fine china.

[adoniijahsooner]

No, he does get injured during carries. He's gotten dinged 2 or 3 times so far this year from carries. It happened when he did the front flip into the end zone (shoulder). He also got hurt during the Texas game I believe and had to miss some time.

I wish he hadn't turned into this physical bruising back because it seems he's made of, if not glass, fine china.

http://grandcentralcomics.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/unbreakable.jpg

[Okie35]

The NFL has change to a multiple back league. Even AD dont get near the carries he got in college, which may be why he is blowing everyone away. I see him being a change of pace back.

He doesn't get that many carries because Chester Taylor is a good back too. You're right about the multiple backs though. If Demarco leaves then I wish him the best. It's not like we don't have other backs to fill the spot, well if he leaves. If he stays, he knows he is welcome.

[Okie35]

No, he does get injured during carries. He's gotten dinged 2 or 3 times so far this year from carries. It happened when he did the front flip into the end zone (shoulder). He also got hurt during the Texas game I believe and had to miss some time.

I wish he hadn't turned into this physical bruising back because it seems he's made of, if not glass, fine china.

Yea he had a hurt ankle and missed the Kansas game. As far as the draft I think he's a late 2nd or early 3rd rounder.

[Collier11]

He doesn't get that many carries because Chester Taylor is a good back too. You're right about the multiple backs though. If Demarco leaves then I wish him the best. It's not like we don't have other backs to fill the spot, well if he leaves. If he stays, he knows he is welcome.

AD doesnt typically get 30 carries a game because they want him to last longer than 5 years, luckily for them Chester is good enough to do that

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Okay. Demarco's first injury at OU was a serious turf toe that happend in '06 when he redshirted. He probably plays that year without the injury.

His 2nd major injury was a patella(kneecap) injury on a fluke onside kick play against '07 against Texas Tech.

3rd injury was another fluke special teams play where he got hit against Mizzou on the opening kickoff last December.

So when you say "murray can't even handle the carries in college", that's really not true. Unless a minor hammy in practice, he has NEVER been injured on a traditional rush play. So the guy has simply had bad/fluke luck. Now, I know he has been seriously injured all the same, but to be specific he has handled the carries in college w/o problems. ;)


Ok, Where is the proof that he can handle the load then? And who is to say that he would have played that first season healthy?

Fluke injuries are injuries. It just so happens that he has the most carries in a game this year, and he gets hurt in the next...

[rawlingsHOH]

At 218lbs. Murray is considered a scatback?
Demarco has a very lean frame. He may be up to 218, but I'm guessing a lot of that is manufactured weight. There are guys with big natural frames, and then there are guys who can lift and eat their way to a certain number. But the body doesn't lie. You are who you are. Murray's constant struggles with injury, and rumors of "losing a step", attests to this.

[rawlingsHOH]

Okay. Demarco's first injury at OU was a serious turf toe that happend in '06 when he redshirted. He probably plays that year without the injury.

His 2nd major injury was a patella(kneecap) injury on a fluke onside kick play against '07 against Texas Tech.

3rd injury was another fluke special teams play where he got hit against Mizzou on the opening kickoff last December.

So when you say "murray can't even handle the carries in college", that's really not true. Unless a minor hammy in practice, he has NEVER been injured on a traditional rush play. So the guy has simply had bad/fluke luck. Now, I know he has been seriously injured all the same, but to be specific he has handled the carries in college w/o problems. ;)
In addition...

Missed most of Mizzou and Iowa State 07 with ankle injury.

Missed KU, and in and out of Texas 09 with ankle injury.

Fortunately, his major injuries occured at the end of seasons. So total playing time lost, wasn't as significant.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Yea he had a hurt ankle and missed the Kansas game. As far as the draft I think he's a late 2nd or early 3rd rounder.

the NFL draft is impossible to predict at this point. yes, murray could be a 2nd/3rd rounder, he could be a 6th rounder, heck he could end up as a UFA.

these are the things we know at this point -

negatives

this draft is very top heavy with talent. there are quite a few players that literally have franchise type talent that you could take at the top of the draft - mays, suh, mccoy, gresham, bradford, okung.

there aren't a lot of NFL teams that need running backs this year. as stated before, there are a lot of NFL retreads that have had some pretty good years this year.

positives

there aren't a lot of elite running backs coming out this year

unknowns

what we don't know is whether we are going to have a lot of juniors/rs sophomores come out that are going to stack the draft even deeper.

[BoulderSooner79]

We do know that the NFL uses lots of backs because the injury rate is high. We also know RB is one position where rookies can contribute right away. A huge plus for rookie backs is the ability to pass protect and catch passes - DM can do that.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

the NFL draft is impossible to predict at this point. yes, murray could be a 2nd/3rd rounder, he could be a 6th rounder, heck he could end up as a UFA.

these are the things we know at this point -

negatives

this draft is very top heavy with talent. there are quite a few players that literally have franchise type talent that you could take at the top of the draft - mays, suh, mccoy, gresham, bradford, okung.

there aren't a lot of NFL teams that need running backs this year. as stated before, there are a lot of NFL retreads that have had some pretty good years this year.

positives

there aren't a lot of elite running backs coming out this year

unknowns

what we don't know is whether we are going to have a lot of juniors/rs sophomores come out that are going to stack the draft even deeper.

Exactly, thats why projections either way don't mean much...If he declared and had a warrior workout, then the sky is the limit...The important thing would be that he fairs well in the interviews and gets a solid 40...and demonstrates soft hands in receiving hands in drills

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Right now I would take if they declare and run about what I expect them too..

1. CJ Spiller
2. Ryan Matthews
3. Anthony Dixon
4. Jonathan Dwyer
5. Toby Gerhart
6. Jahvid Best(depending on health)
7. DeMarco
8. Damien Fletcher
9. William Ford (South Carolina state back)
10. Reggie Arnold

[sooner59]

Jaquizz Rodgers at Oregon St. would be interesting when he decides to go.

No Mark Ingram? Not that I disagree.

Gerhart = Mike Alstott???? maybe...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Is Ingram a redshirt soph?

[JLEW1818]

nope true soph

[Scott D]

See this is what I dont get, disappointing in what aspect? The guy has been an explosive return guy when back there, one of their leading receivers, and has averaged over 1200 all purpose yds per season coming into this year as well as 8 tds a year.

Now I really thought he would be able to be a big time rusher, getting over 1000 yds easily and in that aspect he has been a disappointment but he is still producing quite a bit for them

I just wanted to highlight this to say that Bush is going to be cut in the offseason whether there is a salary cap or not.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Jaquizz Rodgers at Oregon St. would be interesting when he decides to go.

No Mark Ingram? Not that I disagree.

Gerhart = Mike Alstott???? maybe...

According to my source(jlew) Ingram isn't draft eligible

[Collier11]

fawk that, im certain now that Ingram is probably a 5th yr senior

[Scott D]

fawk that, im certain now that Ingram is probably a 5th yr senior

a 5th year high schooler moonlighting as a running back in the SEC...man they're that good. ;)

[VA Sooner]

This will be his moment to shine... his first bowl game since he was hurt (knee in the Fiesta, hamstring for the national championship game).

Good to have him in a bowl game.