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King Barry's Back
11/25/2009, 08:09 PM
Some folks here argue that non-BCS Championship bowl games don't matter. Well this is the crap you have to endure when you lose. If I never have to hear "statue of liberty" again I'll be just fine. Including the one in New York.

And if Ok St wins, are they automatically in the BCS?
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In a New Twist: Boise St Intertwined with Oklahoma Again

Even in Canada, Jared Zabransky cannot go many places without someone mentioning his claim to fame. Yes, right, he is that guy who ran the Statue of Liberty to beat Oklahoma in 2007.

The Fiesta Bowl triumph still resonates, far beyond Idaho.

"It's never gonna be forgotten," said the former Boise State quarterback, who spent the 2009 season with the Canadian Football League's Edmonton Eskimos.

But the thing is, the Broncos would very much like to see it surpassed. The 2007 Fiesta Bowl is easily the most cherished moment in a short, but rich football history, and probably always will be. But they want more. Which is why this weekend, they're feeling a bit, well, weird.

Boise State hosts Nevada on Friday night, the pursuit of another perfect season down to two games (the finale is against New Mexico State, on Dec. 5). Then on Saturday, Bronco Nation will hunker down to cheer on the Sooners.

Yes, really.

Boise State's big dreams are again intertwined with Oklahoma. If the Sooners knock off rival Oklahoma State, they'll knock the Cowboys out of the running for a BCS at-large berth -- and create an unprecedented opening for the Broncos.

"It's funny," Zabransky said. "We need another assist from Oklahoma."

No matter what happens, the 2007 Fiesta Bowl will forever be the moment when Boise State went from that school with the cute blue field to a mid-major powerhouse that can't find BCS-league opponents willing to play the Broncos -- because when it does, it whacks them (see: Oregon, 2008 and 2009). When the Broncos morphed into serious contenders, every year, for a BCS bowl berth. And maybe, someday, for the ultimate breakthrough: a shot at the national title.

But Boise State's 43-42 overtime victory -- the hook-and-ladder, the Statue of Liberty, Ian Johnson proposing to the cheerleader -- was about more than the Broncos. It remains the watershed moment of the BCS era.

Suddenly, we realized mid-majors really could bust the big boys. With apologies to Utah, a win over Pittsburgh in the 2005 Fiesta Bowl didn't pack the same oomph as Boise State beating Oklahoma, one of college football's perennial elites. And while the Utes' Sugar Bowl win over Alabama last year came against a better team, it was simply another step in the evolution of perception, and performance, that began when Johnson scored the winning two-point conversion that night in the desert.

By contrast, getting an at-large berth to the 2010 Fiesta Bowl wouldn't make the same waves. But it would be another significant step for Boise State -- and for the BCS.

We've seen plenty of progress, and we're only an upset or two in the next few days from something previously unthinkable. With a Texas loss, TCU, which is currently ranked fourth in the BCS standings, could find its way into the BCS Championship.

More likely is the scenario where two teams from outside the six power conferences play in BCS bowls. TCU would automatically qualify. Boise State (No. 6 in the BCS) would become the first BCS-buster to get an at-large berth.

Instead of crashing the party, the Broncos could get an actual invitation. What would Orrin Hatch say then?

Both teams deserve it, if they finish unbeaten. But for Boise State, everything hinges on what happens elsewhere. Which brings us back to the Broncos' sudden interest in the Bedlam series.

It's a weird time in Norman, Okla., where the Sooners are not talking BCS, but bust. A year removed from another BCS title game loss, Bob Stoops' injury-ravaged bunch is a stunning 6-5 heading into the final regular-season game. The fans who fretted over all those BCS bowl losses have a whole new set of concerns; they're questioning whether the Sooners should even accept a bowl bid.

Bedlam has a strange tint, as evidenced by this comment from Sooners linebacker Travis Lewis to the Tulsa World: "If you can't get up for Bedlam, regardless of what your record is, you shouldn't be playing football."

Meanwhile, Oklahoma State (9-2) won't lack for motivation. With a win, the Cowboys would snag their first BCS bowl berth (as a Fiesta Bowl replacement for Texas, assuming the Longhorns reach the BCS Championship). That would leave Boise State, even with a perfect record, out of the BCS mix.

Again.

A year ago, the Broncos went unbeaten but Utah got the automatic BCS bid; Boise State met TCU in the Poinsettia Bowl. This year, the Broncos' lofty ranking provides reason to hope for an at-large berth. But if Oklahoma State wins, the Broncos will be consigned again to a low-profile destination. The GMAC Bowl, or the Texas Bowl, or something similar.

All of which is why the Broncos suddenly know the lopsided history of Bedlam. They know Oklahoma holds an overwhelming lead in the series (80-16-7), and has won six straight.

They also know Oklahoma has won 29 straight at home, and has lost only twice in Norman in Stoops' 11 seasons. But one of those losses came in 2001, when Les Miles' first Oklahoma State team upset the No. 4 Sooners 16-13, knocking them out of a potential Rose Bowl matchup with Miami.

Other than simple brotherly hatred, that's been the Cowboys' added incentive most years: playing the spoiler. So it's an odd role reversal.

The Broncos will be watching closely, hoping the Sooners can help them create another Fiesta Bowl memory.

"It's funny how it's gone full-circle," said former Broncos offensive lineman Pete Cavender, who's now part of the Boise State radio broadcast team. "We find it ironic that our BCS hopes all lie in the hands of Oklahoma and Bob Stoops. ... We'll all be wearing crimson and white on Saturday."

"Hopefully," Zabransky said, "they can pull it off for us."






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Crucifax Autumn
11/25/2009, 09:23 PM
At least someone's pulling for us!

StoopTroup
11/25/2009, 09:25 PM
I feel violated.

Scott D
11/25/2009, 09:28 PM
if ever there could be a slight consideration for wanting this team to lose, that article might be it....but I just can't do it. It's far easier to think "Go Nevada" despite the fact that is a lost cause.

ouduckhunter
11/25/2009, 09:49 PM
I feel like Teblowing after reading that! Disgusting! :(

BoulderSooner79
11/25/2009, 11:49 PM
Why would anyone assume we are rivals with BSU? We played once. Also, it's no big deal for some team to need a certain outcome in another game; it happens all the time. There is nothing to see here - move along people.

TUSooner
11/26/2009, 12:24 AM
I feel violated.

Indeed.
I need a shower, or maybe a tetanus shot.

CrimsonandCreamForever
11/26/2009, 01:30 AM
Why is Zabransky the Boise representative in this article? Doesn't the current team have someone that can string together enough words to form a coherent thought?

delhalew
11/26/2009, 01:33 AM
As a Sooner...meh. I think that whole conversation is below us. Yes, when it comes to my Sooners I am arrogant, elitist, and most of all could give a damn about any newb program who's only relevance stems from squeaking by us one year.

When we stumble, we make programs. That is funny to me.

soonerborn30
11/26/2009, 02:40 AM
As a Sooner...meh. I think that whole conversation is below us. Yes, when it comes to my Sooners I am arrogant, elitist, and most of all could give a damn about any newb program who's only relevance stems from squeaking by us one year.

When we stumble, we make programs. That is funny to me.

Exactly. We are the measuring stick by which ALL other teams are judged.

I do still wish we'd have stuffed that Hook and Ladder, though.

:(

Salt City Sooner
11/26/2009, 05:20 PM
I've never had a problem with Boise State. It wasn't their fault that OU spent almost 3 quarters whizzing down their legs before they got it in gear. They got a golden opportunity & took advantage of it.

westcoast_sooner
11/27/2009, 01:51 AM
The annoying thing about it is that it's the kind of thing that will be replayed and replayed and replayed. Since my wife graduated from Kentucky, I can't tell you how much aggravation there is from having to watch that Christian Laettner shot over and over and over every year.

RedstickSooner
11/27/2009, 04:58 AM
I hate them.

adoniijahsooner
11/27/2009, 05:06 AM
So are we gonna hate every team that had the will to take what they wanted from us?

Jacie
11/27/2009, 09:31 AM
Whilst like all true Sooners, I hate getting my nose rubbed in it but here is how I deal with this one.

The reason it keeps coming up is because it was a big deal. OU was noted as one being of the perennial elites and it downplayed Utah beating Pittsburgh as not so big.

People, beating OU is a big deal!

It doesn't matter if it is a mid-major, a second-tier Big XII team, sa*et, SUC or Tim Tebag.

When you beat OU, you've risen to the top, played the best and (in most cases) pulled off a stunning upset.

Even in a down year like this one, beating OU is the high point of a team's season.

We're not that bad. We're that good!

TUSooner
11/27/2009, 09:35 AM
So are we gonna hate every team that had the will to take what they wanted from us?

Well.... YEAH !

;)

That list is getting a little longer this year.

TUSooner
11/27/2009, 09:43 AM
I've never had a problem with Boise State. It wasn't their fault that OU spent almost 3 quarters whizzing down their legs before they got it in gear. They got a golden opportunity & took advantage of it.
This is what gets overlooked about that game. We played like garbage for 55 minutes and deserved to lose. That we eventually lost with double trickery in dramatic fashion made the game more memorable, unfortunately. If we hadn't woken up late, that game would still have been a big an upset, but it would have been less memorable. People might even have noted the sub-par year we were having thanks to Blomar. (Of course, it would have been a worse year but for PT's heroics, but still it was an off year for us.)

badger
11/27/2009, 10:02 AM
I have said it on similar threads before, but because I am still a bitter Sooner fan that wanted ENA to have his final moment of redemption that season that got denied... grrrr... by Bois Estate, here goes:

BOISE STATE IS NOT GOING TO A BCS GAME UNLESS THEY ARE THE AUTO BID! Do you hear me, potato aggies?! NO BCS FOR YOU! Seriously, there is NO CHANCE IN HELL ANY BOWL WANTS YOU UNLESS THEY'RE FORCED TO TAKE YOU! BS University can cling to the fact that it sold its ticket allotment all it wants, but the fact of the matter is that at-large teams need to do more than that.

So, to summarize, unless TCU loses and isn't the auto qualifier for mid-major madness, the Bwaaaaa Broncos aren't going anywhere except home for the Humanitarian!

Fact: Iowa will travel in far greater numbers and be a better choice.
Fact: Even a three-loss Oklahoma State would be a better choice because of the Big 12 tie-in... so long as they can stay in the top 14, heh.
Fact: Nobody cares that Boise beat Oregon. NOBODY! (cept Boise)