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Collier11
11/18/2009, 04:39 PM
It seems to that since Jonothan Hayes left we have always had one visible problem in Special teams, last yr it was kickoff return coverage, now its kicking, we havent had a great KO returner since Murray pre injury and before that it had been a while. This yr is the first time weve had a dangerous punt returner in some time.

Either that or Stoops needs to put more time into it perhaps, I just think having one guy who focuses on it would really help

gaylordfan1
11/18/2009, 04:42 PM
Call Joe C and see if its in the budget. If so, hire Mangino.

Sooner04
11/18/2009, 04:43 PM
Hasn't Chris Wilson been looking over this stuff for a couple of years?

rawlingsHOH
11/18/2009, 04:44 PM
I believe Wilson is still in charge of the special teams.

Regarding the Kick Return squad... I think we've lead the nation the previous 2 years (with Murray an Iglesias).

Scott D
11/18/2009, 04:50 PM
I for one miss Jonathan Hayes.

MamaMia
11/18/2009, 04:53 PM
I for one miss Antonio Perkins. Does he need a job? :pop:

Collier11
11/18/2009, 05:00 PM
Hasn't Chris Wilson been looking over this stuff for a couple of years?

Is he, I thought it was Stoops?

westbrooke
11/18/2009, 05:14 PM
I believe Wilson is still in charge of the special teams.

Regarding the Kick Return squad... I think we've lead the nation the previous 2 years (with Murray an Iglesias).

I couldn't believe this when I first read it. While not quite on top, the record shows Murray was much better than I remembered. (The years below are linked.)

2007 (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_playerkickret&site=org)
#7 Murray
#16 Iglesias

2008 (http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_playerkickret&site=org&div=IA&dest=O)
#10 Murray
#57 Iglesias

I think the key factor to the collective memory here is that Murray had 2 TD returns in 2007 and 0 in 2008 (Iglesias didn't score either year). Field position is huge, but we're biased to remember those big plays. Perkins spoiled us. ;)

rawlingsHOH
11/18/2009, 05:26 PM
I couldn't believe this when I first read it. While not quite on top, the record shows Murray was much better than I remembered. (The years below are linked.)

2007 (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_playerkickret&site=org)
#7 Murray
#16 Iglesias

2008 (http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&rpt=IA_playerkickret&site=org&div=IA&dest=O)
#10 Murray
#57 Iglesias

I think the key factor to the collective memory here is that Murray had 2 TD returns in 2007 and 0 in 2008 (Iglesias didn't score either year). Field position is huge, but we're biased to remember those big plays. Perkins spoiled us. ;)

1st in the nation in 2007...
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=B&rpt=IA_teamkickret&site=org

5th in the nation in 2008...
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2008&div=B&rpt=IA_teamkickret&site=org

Boomer.....
11/18/2009, 05:27 PM
I'm just glad that our punt coverage has been much improved since last year. The kicking game will come with time. They are young and the nerves are getting to them.

rawlingsHOH
11/18/2009, 05:33 PM
2009 National Rankings...

Punt Coverage, 2nd (1.2 yards per return!)
Net Punting, 7th
Punt Returns, 10th
Kickoff Coverage, 49th (at least only 1 TD allowed this year)
Kickoff Returns, 68th

Penalty Yards, 118th

ouleaf
11/18/2009, 05:51 PM
I got a picture with Perkins, who was sitting near me for our game against the Mormons at the Death Star. Told him we could have used him during that game for sure.

MamaMia
11/18/2009, 06:29 PM
I got a picture with Perkins, who was sitting near me for our game against the Mormons at the Death Star. Told him we could have used him during that game for sure.
I loved that guy. What a player. :D

Scott D
11/18/2009, 08:59 PM
yeah I see how you edited that original post there Collier ;)

Collier11
11/18/2009, 10:38 PM
no edit that I remember

CrimsonJim
11/18/2009, 11:01 PM
Is he, I thought it was Stoops?

I believe Stoops was heavy into the special teams when he first got here, but he's got away from that quite some time ago.

Salt City Sooner
11/18/2009, 11:07 PM
I for one miss Jonathan Hayes.
I don't, but then again, I'm a Bengal fan.....:D

tommieharris91
11/18/2009, 11:09 PM
I for one miss Antonio Perkins. Does he need a job? :pop:

I'd rather find someone who can teach people how to kick a ball through some uprights.

GottaHavePride
11/18/2009, 11:17 PM
I didn't really think there was that big a gap from JT Thatcher to AP to Murray and now Franks.

Any complaint I have about special teams has zero to do with our return guy. I would complain about blocking for the return guy, and the coverage teams on kicks, but not the actual return guy.

MamaMia
11/20/2009, 12:27 AM
I'd rather find someone who can teach people how to kick a ball through some uprights. Who knows? Maybe Paddy will make us proud. :)

sooner59
11/20/2009, 12:40 AM
I loved that guy. What a player. :D

Anyone who was in the stands for the 2003 UCLA game got one hell of a show. Three punts returned for a TD and NCAA record. And if they were in the sun like me, they also got a wicked sunburn. That was a great one.

BoulderSooner79
11/20/2009, 01:59 AM
Our return and coverage teams have been pretty good this year. I would think a coach for place kickers would be a specialty position coach, not the overall ST coach.

Collier11
11/20/2009, 09:45 AM
our KR covg hasnt been that great, neither has our KRers

perculator
11/20/2009, 10:12 AM
hell yeah it's time for a special teams coach. don't you guys remember 2000-2004......how many punts did we block? special teams ain't just about kickoff and punt returns.

rawlingsHOH
11/20/2009, 10:26 AM
hell yeah it's time for a special teams coach. don't you guys remember 2000-2004......how many punts did we block? special teams ain't just about kickoff and punt returns.
Right around 2004 OU got hit with a couple fake punts against them. Since that time OU almost NEVER goes for the block. Usually just a 'safe', or a safe return call is made.