Obama's war on Fox News

[tommieharris91]

I think Obama is out of line when barring Fox News from the White House. It's only making him look worse. I don't even watch that network and I think he needs to let the other side have a chance. I'm glad the other networks stood up to him to let Fox in on a joint interview, because the precedent that would have set would have allowed him to grossly violate the 1st Amendment.

What say yall?

(See, I'm not a Marxist Muslim like the prez. :D)

[JLEW1818]

every time he talks, he looks worse

[sooner ngintunr]

Its for sure making him look worse. I agree with you about setting a dangerous precedent.

Although I'm not a big fan of US media, a free press in this country is necessary for sure.

It makes me think that he has an agenda that is not on the up and up, like he has something to hide.

[Penguin]

I'm not going to lose much sleep over it.

[GottaHavePride]

Freedom of the press means the government doesn't censor what the press wants to write or say. It doesn't mean the government has to brief the press every time someone sneezes.

Side rant, but why does the press expect to be briefed on US combat operations? If I was in charge and had soldiers deployed, I wouldn't tell the press a damn thing before it happens. The press would get updates like "hey, we blew some stuff up last week, it was a big success. They didn't know we were coming because I DIDN'T TELL YOU BASTAGES ABOUT IT A WEEK IN ADVANCE."

[walkoffsooner]

The press aint what it used to be. Reporting not good enough have to spin it for ratings.

[I Am Right]

Stack of Stuff Quick Hits Page
October 22, 2009



Story #1: If Fox is Talk Radio, CNN and MSNBC are Pornography

RUSH: So now Obama is out there saying that Fox News is talk radio. I am living rent free in this guy's head! Fox News is talk radio? If that's true, MSNBC is pornography -- and Obama likes MSNBC -- and CNN is child porn.

[I Am Right]

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[I Am Right]

Maddow/Olbermann Invited to White House Chat with Obama, But Fox Isn't a News Organization?
By Chris Ariens on Oct 21, 2009 12:58 PMHere's a curious turn in the White House vs. Fox News fight.

On Monday, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow were among several people who attended an off-the-record briefing with Pres. Obama at the White House. Sources tell us other attendees at the two-and-a-half hour chat included Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, Gwen Ifill of PBS and Gloria Borger of CNN. Perhaps not surprisingly, no one from Fox News was in the room.

This fact quickly turned into ammunition for the folks at FOX. Last night on "Special Report," Bret Baier revealed the information pointing out that opinion hosts from one channel were being invited to a briefing with the Commander-in-Chief, all the while Fox was declared not a news organization.

And it continued on Fox & Friends this morning, as the troika talked about the back-and-forth ABC News White House correspondent Jake Tapper had with press secretary Robert Gibbs in the morning off-camera gaggle yesterday.



[However, co-anchor Gretchen Carlson didn't have her facts correct when she said, "in this reporter gaggle was Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann who are opinion people over at MSNBC." Maddow and Olbermann were in the off-the-record briefing on Monday not the on-the-record gaggle on Tuesday.]

[Soonerus]

It's wrong...

[GottaHavePride]

Is it a dumb move? Yes.

But I'm still of the opinion that the White House giving the press any info at all is a courtesy extended to the press. The White House is under no obligation to have ANY meetings with members of any media organizations at all. So the press bitching about it is kind of ridiculous.

I mean, look at it this way: the press are guests at the White House, there by invitation. If you're going to come in there and - metaphorically speaking - crap all over the rugs, why should they keep inviting you back?

[Soonerus]

Is it a dumb move? Yes.

But I'm still of the opinion that the White House giving the press any info at all is a courtesy extended to the press. The White House is under no obligation to have ANY meetings with members of any media organizations at all. So the press bitching about it is kind of ridiculous.

I mean, look at it this way: the press are guests at the White House, there by invitation. If you're going to come in there and - metaphorically speaking - crap all over the rugs, why should they keep inviting you back?

disagree, you (White House) are in the public domain, publically funded...you have an obligation to allow all law abiding vistors a forum...

[olevetonahill]

Im OK with Obama Booting Fox . as long as He boots all the others while hes at it :cool:

[VeeJay]

It's apparent the people calling the shots in this administration have zero tolerance for dissent and zero regard for the 1st amendment.

We bargained for this when we elected a community organizer as the leader of the free world.

[salth2o]

I would love to tell bho to **** off dip ****

[CrimsonandCreamForever]

Is it a dumb move? Yes.

But I'm still of the opinion that the White House giving the press any info at all is a courtesy extended to the press. The White House is under no obligation to have ANY meetings with members of any media organizations at all. So the press bitching about it is kind of ridiculous.

I mean, look at it this way: the press are guests at the White House, there by invitation. If you're going to come in there and - metaphorically speaking - crap all over the rugs, why should they keep inviting you back?

If you bane one, you gotta bane em all. Can't pick and choose.

Even though I think Rus has a point about the White House being public domain. Could you imagine banning any media from the Capitol building or even Norman City Hall?

[GottaHavePride]

If you bane one, you gotta bane em all. Can't pick and choose.

Even though I think Rus has a point about the White House being public domain. Could you imagine banning any media from the Capitol building or even Norman City Hall?

Heh. I'd be ok with baning all of 'em. No reason they can't report on stuff by requesting official transcripts after the fact. They just don't want to have to do that much work. ;)

[SoonerKnight]

disagree, you (White House) are in the public domain, publically funded...you have an obligation to allow all law abiding vistors a forum...

Disagree... Remember Bush did not have press conferences but he appeared on Fox along with the rest of his cronies... Fox got the scoops while CNN and MSNBC and other networks were not included as much. So no they do not have an obligation. Oh and Fox is not a news organization!

[SCOUT]

Disagree... Remember Bush did not have press conferences but he appeared on Fox along with the rest of his cronies... Fox got the scoops while CNN and MSNBC and other networks were not included as much. So no they do not have an obligation. Oh and Fox is not a news organization!

Not having press conferences does not equal limiting the media. I seem to recall a fair number of pieces about Bush on CNN, MSNBC, etc.

You are confusing speeches with media coverage.

[olevetonahill]

Yall PAY TENTION
BHO banned ONE news group

Its Not whether or Not He decided to NOT give a News Conference . Its the Fact he EXCLUDED ONE group :rolleyes:

[soonerhubs]

Knight, by your standards then, is MSNBC a news organization? If so, how do you account for the visceral commentaries of Maddow and Olberman?

[Okla-homey]

In the end, can anyone who has seriously considered BHO's Chicago-land political background and his basic Fabian socialist political philosopy actually be surprised by any of this?

I'm just happy America sees through much of this Oz-like "don't look behind the curtain" stuff and the president's approval numbers continue to plummet accordingly. I wonder how they'll spin the GOP resurgence on Nov 7 and in the 2010 mid-terms?

I read this week that the president's approval numbers have fallen farther and faster than any president's over the last 50 years. And he's only about a year in.

[StoopTroup]

I hope Fox and CNN both get taken off the air.

What we need is a World of Nancy Grace types reporting the REAL News.

[PDXsooner]

banning fox is like banning the onion news network or the naked news network. it's a network for entertainment purposes and should in no way be used as a legitimate source of information.

i'm not sure whether they deserve a ban, though. whatever the policy on those other networks i mentioned is, the same should be applied to fox.

[StoopTroup]

Never let the Fox in the henhouse.

[Turd_Ferguson]

banning fox is like banning the onion news network or the naked news network. it's a network for entertainment purposes and should in no way be used as a legitimate source of information.

i'm not sure whether they deserve a ban, though. whatever the policy on those other networks i mentioned is, the same should be applied to fox.How are you distinguishing FOX from CNN and the rest?

[PDXsooner]

How are you distinguishing FOX from CNN and the rest?

they're not all the same IMO. they may all be biased to some extent, but none to the level of fox. even msnbc, which clearly leans left, mixes in some hosts that try to play it even.

fox is shameless. i can't believe how many good, hard-working americans rely on that for actual information. crazy world we live in...

[StoopTroup]

There is a restaurant I eat in that has two TVs that are tuned to FOX every minute of the day. That is all they watch. Lately I see the owner outside a lot smoking. I think he's gonna die soon. ;)

[KABOOKIE]

they're not all the same IMO. they may all be biased to some extent, but none to the level of fox. even msnbc, which clearly leans left, mixes in some hosts that try to play it even.
fox is shameless. i can't believe how many good, hard-working americans rely on that for actual information. crazy world we live in...

That's down right funny.

Obama is really dumber than I thought. Oh woe is me. Fox is talk radio. Excuse me now while I meet with credible journalist Olberman and Maddow. :rolleyes:

[StoopTroup]

There is a credible journalist?

Where?