What's the deal with West Orange's Franks???

[TheHumanAlphabet]

suspended for the remainder of the season? (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/fbh/6675994.html) No word on why and the press and family is mum...

[SCxxSOONER]

something about his phone and a girl is the unofficial word, Dont know how this will affect his career at OU..

[MojoRisen]

Naked pictures or something! as long as some idiot doesn't put it on the internet that stuff is no biggy. He is supposed to be an awesome track prospect and speedster - hope it works out for him... seems pretty harsh to me but I don't have any real details.

[Tiptonsooner]

CHeck out the comments to that link...

[boomersooner28]

This has been a GREAT year.




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[SCxxSOONER]

Yea heard it was about some naked pics, really seems harsh if thats all he did, Hope he still gets his chance, boys will be boys

[SCxxSOONER]

Dont you love the image these guys have for OU players LOL probably a bunch of sorry *** texass fans

[hookem1982]

http://www.kfdm.com/news/football-34780-orange-mother.html

This is a statement from his mother. I live in his hometown and went to his high school. I might be a sorry *** Texas fan, but this kid isn't getting a fair shake.

[SCxxSOONER]

the sorry *** texas fans i referred to were the ones who said he fits right in at OU when we all know that texas players have their own share of the off the field incidents, hes not getting a fair deal how can the school board take action when the incident didn't happen at school? Is that legal?

[47straight]

the sorry *** texas fans i referred to were the ones who said he fits right in at OU when we all know that texas players have their own share of the off the field incidents, hes not getting a fair deal how can the school board take action when the incident didn't happen at school? Is that legal?

While not many school rules might apply outside of school, many organizations have heightened behavior requirements. Just like if a college player gets busted for DUI, he might have to miss some games.

Since no actual details are released, and we've just got some innuendo, it's really hard to judge who's right. I can't say for sure the school board is over- OR under-reacting.

It doesn't appear to be a legal issue, which is very good. I hope that the young man can take whatever lessons should be learned to heart and move on.

[hookem1982]

The pictures were supposedly taken during the summer. The school handbook says that electronic devices can't be used to transfer sexually oriented material or anything that is disruptive to the learning enviroment. Let me just say this is not going to go away quietly. There will be a different approach taken to have him reinstated.

[SCxxSOONER]

The pictures were supposedly taken during the summer. The school handbook says that electronic devices can't be used to transfer sexually oriented material or anything that is disruptive to the learning enviroment. Let me just say this is not going to go away quietly. There will be a different approach taken to have him reinstated.

A kid can get in trouble for doing this outside of school?? That is a strange rule, however hopefully it goes away quietly as you say. Feel bad for the kid having to miss football his senior yr but i guess he has to pay the consequences for his actions

[Frozen Sooner]

A kid can get in trouble for doing this outside of school?? That is a strange rule, however hopefully it goes away quietly as you say. Feel bad for the kid having to miss football his senior yr but i guess he has to pay the consequences for his actions

A kid could technically go to a federal penitentiary for that, if the girl's under 18.

[JLEW1818]

damn.. things were not this bad when i was in school

hell i wish i was some of yalls age, i bet yall could do almost anything

[Frozen Sooner]

damn.. things were not this bad when i was in school

hell i wish i was some of yalls age, i bet yall could do almost anything

We didn't really HAVE cell phones when I was in high school. You could get a thing called a car phone, which was gigantic and cost like $5 a minute to use. Or you could get a pager if you REALLY wanted everyone to think you were selling drugs.

The only real change I can see is that there's so many more avenues for kids to A) screw up and B) get caught. I'm sure if we had tubes like they do now we'd have gotten busted for posting stupid stuff on the MyBook and Facespace and stuff.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Yeah, we like played "Doctor", though no one knew about it unless you got caught by a parent. It's not like we were taking polaroids of "playing doctor", hell we couldn't afford a polaroid... ;)

[Jello Biafra]

A kid could technically go to a federal penitentiary for that, if the girl's under 18.

this...

got a buddy you writes code for motorola cell towers and sattelites... hes told me this on more than one occasion. if you get caught with a pic on your phone of a minor, regardless or your age, you could wear the sexual predator name tag the rest of your life.

this is acutally a big problem with my oldest sons football team, several of them have had pictures sent to them of girls their age. and a couple of them have been caught because they cant keep their yaps shut. what doesnt seem fair though is the one sending the picture doesnt really have to answer to the charge...from what i hear. lawyer types?

[Pigface1]

We didn't really HAVE cell phones when I was in high school. You could get a thing called a car phone, which was gigantic and cost like $5 a minute to use. Or you could get a pager if you REALLY wanted everyone to think you were selling drugs.

The only real change I can see is that there's so many more avenues for kids to A) screw up and B) get caught. I'm sure if we had tubes like they do now we'd have gotten busted for posting stupid stuff on the MyBook and Facespace and stuff.

Ditto. I graduated HS in 92 and got in enough trouble w/out the aid of all my crap being online or filmed. lol

[RedstickSooner]

this...

got a buddy you writes code for motorola cell towers and sattelites... hes told me this on more than one occasion. if you get caught with a pic on your phone of a minor, regardless or your age, you could wear the sexual predator name tag the rest of your life.

this is acutally a big problem with my oldest sons football team, several of them have had pictures sent to them of girls their age. and a couple of them have been caught because they cant keep their yaps shut. what doesnt seem fair though is the one sending the picture doesnt really have to answer to the charge...from what i hear. lawyer types?

Some girl up north who was underage and sent a nekkid pic of herself got charged -- and had the charges reduced once she agreed to counseling & some other stuff.

Also, as to busting kids for stuff done outside of school, this is an issue the ACLU is suing over at some other Yankee school where a bunch of girls got disciplined for some racy pics (these weren't nude -- just provocative) they took of themselves over summer vacation once the pics made the inevitable rounds at school and administrators saw them.

There are some folks claiming it's gonna take the Supreme Court to figure out what the rules of the road are here.

I think some common sense has GOT to be interjected, and quickly, because of one simple fact:

Teenagers are stupid.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think we'd better do our best to make some distinction between kiddie porn and stupid teens. If a teenager takes a picture of his/her own hooters, or hoo-haw, or dangly bits (depending on what they're packing - some, from what I've read, have all three, but most have no more than two) and then posts those to Facebook or Myspace, or just sends the pictures around via cell phone... I just can't see a universe in which that kid should be charged under child pornography acts.

Same even goes for that kids peers for forwarding it, as I don't think teens really think to themselves when they see a nekkid classmate in their inbox that they're committing a felony when they hit "forward". So, we've got to have some lesser level of criminality for that -- need to be able to punish the kids involved without ruining their lives at an early age.

Here's hoping, if it gets that high up the food chain, that the Supreme Court does its job and establishes some case law precedents that make sense, and treat this thing in a sensible, real world sort of way. In other words, treat it the exact *opposite* of the trend in school systems with their asinine "zero tolerance" garbage where kids get expelled for bringing Advil to school.

Still, while I've said my peace on where I stand, this one isn't an easy answer -- because the fact is, no good can come of it when pictures of underage kids are floating around. It's sorta like if every cell phone had the ability to cook up heroin if you just held the "send" button down for a minute while it was pointed at a spoon full of table salt -- realistically, we'd need to make the penalties for creating heroin in that manner less draconian, lest we start throwing otherwise good kids behind bars... But at the same time, hell -- it's horse! We don't want it in our schools, or our homes, or anywhere around us.

Ain't no easy or simple fix here. Unless we want to just make it illegal to own a camera if you're under 18. Somehow I don't think that'd work -- but we could always try, if we wanted.

[picasso]

damn.. things were not this bad when i was in school

hell i wish i was some of yalls age, i bet yall could do almost anything

In some ways yes. Our society wasn't quite as litigious as it is nowadays. My old high school had this wonderful lounge area in our lobby called the pit. It was a nice recessed area with carpeting and chairs and couches.
All it took to fill it in was a drunk guy at a basketball game in the 90's that fell into it and sued the school.:mad: