Another HDTV

[Taxman71]

Need a new one to mount in the bedroom (bada bing). Looking at 50 inch plasma 720P by Panny for $800 vs. 42-47 inch LCD 1080P by Vizio for about same $$. Definitely stay under $1k. I don't think the 720v1080 is big deal myself and only the reflective glass on the plasma is giving me caution right now. Thoughts?

[StoopTroup]

Dean and Phil will make ya a good deal on a slightly used Vizio.

[trpltongue]

Do you regularly watch TV in the bedroom when there is a lot of light on, and is that light directly behind you? That's really the only time you have issue with glare on a plasma. I've had both, a Panny 58" plasma and a Samsung 52" LCD with matte screen. Both were in use in my living room for a while. I have a 1-story open floor plan so there is light coming in from everywhere. I have 3 large windows directly to the side of the seating position as well as a bunch of large windows almost directly behind me.

The panny had too much glare during the day, but was money at night. The Samsung has a matte screen which helped a lot on the glare. It is still there, it's just a big blur instead of a perfect reflection which is much less annoying. Of course, the LCD isn't quite as sharp or as good with blacks, but it's a small difference.

[Taxman71]

I only watch TV in the bedroom at night so it is pitch dark 99% of the time when I am watching it. I have a 32 inch plasma in a kid's room and it is awesome except for the occasional all-black scene when I can see my reflection. Though, that may not happen given I would be mounting this one on the wall about 6 to 7 feet high.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Bedroom?

Reflective surface near the ceiling?

Chicka bwow.

[Boomer.....]

I am also looking for a 42" for the bedroom wall. I for sure am going with LCD and was looking at Vizio because you can get 1080p at Wallyword for under $700.

[Taxman71]

BB has Panny and LG 42 inch LCD with 1080p for $700 right now. That might sway me to down in size, but up in quality.....appropriate for bedroom talk.

[trpltongue]

Some of the Vizio LCD's score pretty well on image quality. Though the best are the Samsungs. Unfortunately, they're not cheap. The plasmas are all around better picture quality if the room is moderately dark and are considerably less expensive.

Plasma is almost a no-brainer for a bedroom where it will see minimal use in a dark environment.

Highly recommend you check out www.avsforum.com (http://www.avsforum.com) for all the discussion on flat panel tv's (and a million other electronics things) you can handle.

[btk108]

Dean and Phil will make ya a good deal on a slightly used Vizio.

ST...that Vizio works fine if you have your drunky glasses on...

[btk108]

Bedroom?

Reflective surface near the ceiling?

Chicka bwow.

TMI, huh?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I put a 37 inch Phillips in my bedroom a while back...its aight

[SoonerAficionadOU]

I used to sell TV's back when Plasmas and LCD's were the talk of the town, and I still keep abreast of what's new. That said, I'd throw my vote in for the plasma on two accounts: better picture on plasma, and I'm a fan of Panasonic's overall quality.

[Frozen Sooner]

I used to sell TV's back when Plasmas and LCD's were the talk of the town, and I still keep abreast of what's new. That said, I'd throw my vote in for the plasma on two accounts: better picture on plasma, and I'm a fan of Panasonic's overall quality.

:raised eyebrow:

A 720p plasma has a better picture than a 1080p LCD?

Plasmas used to have better black levels than LCDs, but I'm under the impression that it's been resolved in the newer sets.

Agreed on the relative quality between a Panasonic and a Vizio, though.

[85Sooner]

ugh

[Taxman71]

I don't the 720 v 1080 means much right now...maybe in the future or will oversized screen sizes, but not an issue at 50 inches or less.

[Boomer.....]

ugh

Spill it.

[badger]

$800? Pbbbth. Go buy el cheapo tube box for less than $100 at a rummage sale. You know you're just going to have to buy another when the refs call holding on us for the umpteenth time next week :rolleyes:

[trpltongue]

Frozen,

It's true that LCD's have really closed the gap, but Plasmas still retain the best picture quality (of the 2) in darkened rooms.

Also, 1080 vs 720 isn't much of a difference unless you're watching BluRay, as most of the content is either 720p or 1080i. What is your viewing distance? If it's less than 9-10 ft, the pixel structure of 720P on a 50" screen may be visible.

[85Sooner]

Spill it.

I hear sirloin stockade makes a really good steak.

[Boomer.....]

But how does it compare with Cattleman's?

[sooneron]

www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com

or
www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com

they haven't steered me wrong through 3 diff sets and they give you the best calibration settings...

There's also info on the whole lcd v. plasma on either site.

[soonerboomer93]

I thought only oled would actually achieve the same black as a plasma?

at the redonculous price of an oled, i would go plasma. Shoot, i like my xbr, but I probably should have gone plasma for that one

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Dean and Phil will make ya a good deal on a slightly used Vizio.

Though I don't know the story behind this and I would love to read about it, I would never buy the cheap **** Chinese communist Vizio stuff ever. It is cheap stuff.

[Frozen Sooner]

While I don't dispute the cheapness of their product, I'm under the impression that Vizio is a privately-held U.S. corporation.

[StoopTroup]

:pop:

[TheHumanAlphabet]

While I don't dispute the cheapness of their product, I'm under the impression that Vizio is a privately-held U.S. corporation.

Though not ChiCom - still chinese crap. Here's what I found, and I will admit the "chinese" comment I have heard, I extended to assume mainland rather than Taiwan. The Vizio corp is American and based in California. They spec out the design and use Asian companies to build the sets - cost not performance is the main characteristic they have in mind.


They have offices in California

They're a front company for a Chinese OEM who designs the TVs using the cheapest components available at the time. They're constantly redoing their designs as supplies dry up

There's several threads on here on the subject including 2 posts almost in a row from a guy defending them, and then posting it died on him. Best Buy employees call them "boomerangs" because of how many sets come back DOA within the first month.

[Frozen Sooner]

Oh, yeah, like I said-they're cheap. Good enough for a bedroom TV which you're hopefully not looking at a whole lot anyhow, but not as a centerpiece of a home theater.

[Taxman71]

Decided on a 42 inch Panny 1080p LCD. Under $700 out the door and the picture was as good as any in the store. The cabinet isn't as flashy as LG or Samsung, but the picture was much better.