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sooner n houston
9/10/2009, 03:00 PM
By cutting out waste and fraud from Medicade, Why aren't they doing it?

Anyone know?

yermom
9/10/2009, 03:09 PM
because the Pubs aren't going to read or vote for the bill ;)

delhalew
9/10/2009, 03:29 PM
Quit using your head. Everybody will think you are ignorant, hate filled, whatever the media has decided on today.

Rational thought. Who would have thought it would become a taboo.

yermom
9/10/2009, 03:45 PM
what's rational about being in the pocket of the insurance companies?

Obama can't miracle some Medicaid changes into happening. they have to be voted on like anything else

JohnnyMack
9/10/2009, 04:23 PM
what's rational about being in the pocket of the insurance companies?

Obama can't miracle some Medicaid changes into happening. they have to be voted on like anything else

One side is in the pocket of the trial lawyers, one in the pocket of the insurance companies.

OUHOMER
9/10/2009, 04:42 PM
Yea, i was wondering, in his speech he was saying some states insurance company's have no competition. Thus they name their own price and only accept who they want.

So what is the hold up on letting other insurance company into other states where there is competition?

Seems like that is an easy fix, nothing to argue about there.

royalfan5
9/10/2009, 04:45 PM
My Money is on the ancient Roman Practice of decimation. Every tenth person admitted to the hospital gets taken out back and shot.

sooner n houston
9/11/2009, 06:14 AM
what's rational about being in the pocket of the insurance companies?

Obama can't miracle some Medicaid changes into happening. they have to be voted on like anything else

So you're saying that by changing the law, they can reduce medicare spending?

Here is an excert from a WSJ article this morning on this subject.

What do you think?
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So no cuts, for anyone—except, that is, for the 24% of senior beneficiaries who are enrolled in the Medicare Advantage program, which Democrats want to slash by $177 billion or more because it is run by private companies. Mr. Obama called that money "unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies—subsidies that do everything to pad their profits but don't improve the care of seniors."

In fact, Advantage does provide better care, which is one reason that enrollment has doubled since 2003. It's true that the program could be better designed, with more competitive bidding and quality bonuses. But Advantage's private insurers today provide the kind of care that Mr. Obama said he would mandate that private insurers provide for the nonelderly—"to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventative care."

Advantage plans have excelled at filling in the gaps of the a la carte medicine of traditional Medicare, contracting with doctors and hospitals to coordinate care and improve quality and covering items such as vision, hearing and management of chronic illness. If seniors in Advantage lose this coverage because of the 14% or 15% budget cut that Mr. Obama favors, well, that's "waste and abuse."
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574404893691325078.html?m od=djemEditorialPage

beer4me
9/11/2009, 06:19 AM
My Money is on the ancient Roman Practice of decimation. Every tenth person admitted to the hospital gets taken out back and shot.

We all ready have that go to a VA hospital ;) :D

AlbqSooner
9/11/2009, 06:57 AM
It has not yet become politically expedient to cut $$$ from medicare/medicaid. The time to use your surprise witness is when said witness will surprise the other side.

bluedogok
9/11/2009, 08:39 PM
One side is in the pocket of the trial lawyers, one in the pocket of the insurance companies.
...and some legislators (regardless of party affliction) have both pockets full.